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Todd Nicholson

Last reply Jan 4, 2010 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Proper Grounding with Wing Dish

Hi,

I have a single 722 with two dishes 110/119 and 129. I've had E* for almost a year and a half, and I just noticed from being up on the roof that my system does not seem to be grounded properly. There is a ground running from the grounding block to my house ground, but no ground running from the dish to the grounding block. The RG6 used to connect the dishes doesn't have a messenger ground either. I wanted to run a ground wire from the dishes to the grounding block, but since there are two dishes, how is that accomplished. Do I just run a ground from one dish to the grounding block (and that will ground both dishes) or do I run a ground from the first dish to the second dish, then to the grounding block? I searched, and while there is info about grounding, I couldn't find anything about grounding with a wing dish in the mix.

Thanks for your help.

Todd

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dodge

Jan 3, 2010

grounding the dish should not give you an improvement in picture grounding is for lightning protection and a drain for static build up.

scoobyxj

Jan 3, 2010

dodge said:
grounding the dish should not give you an improvement in picture grounding is for lightning protection and a drain for static build up.

Lightning protection. I still think that's funny! Grounding a system properly will in fact help with picture improvement in certain cases.

dvrexpander

Jan 3, 2010

scoobyxj said:
Lightning protection. I still think that's funny! Grounding a system properly will in fact help with picture improvement in certain cases.

I've only seen one dish ever hit by lightning and it heated it up so much it bent in slightly like a taco throwing off the signal by 30points. Grounding will not help with the picture either not sure where your getting that idea. Grounding is good to do for static but its not a requirement unless a NEC ground is nearby which I believe is 20feet. Dish's standards of grounding is beyond stupid anyway, they would rather you run a 10ga green wire along a copper pipe to a perfectly good incoming ground pipe than just use that pipe or not even hook it to one at all.

10gauge from the block to the grounding point yet we have 16along the double or single wire to the mast/pole - makes no sense to me why the ground block to grounding point can't be just as small. I've had to run so many new lines cause of that stupid rule when there is a perfectly good smaller wire running to a perfectly good ground point.

dadeaton

Jan 4, 2010

I've seen one dish that was hit by lightning as well. The messenger line was broken by the burn. Messed up the siding on the guy's house.

The answer to the grounding question doesn't always sense. I was told the other day that the messenger works in conjunction with the center conductor to form the actual gauge that is required for the dish to be grounded properly. This is why when running dual cable, both lines need to run to the ground block... hmm?!

Jim5506

Jan 4, 2010

Grounding will not protect you if lightning strikes but it will bleed off the build up of static electricity that attracts lightning, thusly reducing the probabilty of a strike.

You would need a very large braided copper cable to carry the voltage of a lightning strike to ground, and that still would not guarantee the connected electronics would not be fried.

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Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply 40 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

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Dancing Days - Led Zeppelin

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Dancing in the Street - Van Halen

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Today at 3:47 PM

Bakers Street - Gerry Rafferty

Bobby

40 minutes ago

long_time_Dish said:
Bakers Street - Gerry Rafferty

Let me fix that for you:
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JSheridan

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Last reply 45 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

All DMA's now Western Arc

I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.

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Strega

Friday at 10:01 PM

Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.

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Jimbo

Friday at 11:17 PM

Strega said:
Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.

Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.

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Mister B

Saturday at 7:35 AM

Jimbo said:
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.

I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.

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slow_poke_pete

Yesterday at 10:40 AM

Mister B said:
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.

can't forget the little blue m&m's

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charlesrshell

Yesterday at 11:23 AM

slow_poke_pete said:
can't forget the little blue m&m's

That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!

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telstar_1

Yesterday at 8:12 PM

Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 9:01 PM

telstar_1 said:
Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink

Because he didn't have a fleet of reusable rockets. Starlink works because SpaceX is able to launch hundreds (thousands?) of their Starlink satellites for what a single geostationary Internet satellite costs to build and launch on a disposable launcher.

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telstar_1

Today at 12:08 AM

But how is it reusable if it's disposable

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 2:09 AM

charlesrshell said:
That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!

My gf is 29 years younger than me :shh

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Almighty1

45 minutes ago

telstar_1 said:
Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink

He does not have the resources aka $$$ compared to Elon Musk as in reality, Elon can eat Charlie for lunch or even mop the floor with Charlie if he wanted to.

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osu1991

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Last reply 46 minutes ago · posted in Movie Talk

Dune (2020)

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long_time_Dish

Jun 4, 2024

Also watched part 2 about a week or so ago after rewatching part 1. It's not as faithful to the book as I was hoping for. Part 1 stayed fairly faithful to the novel, but part 2 took some liberties that I felt were rather excessively non-novel. It looks like a prequel series will happen before part 3. My issue is: there's no prequel that was written as a novel, so what will it be pulled from? Or will it just be "based loosely" on the novel?

klang

Jun 4, 2024

long_time_DNC said:
Also watched part 2 about a week or so ago after rewatching part 1. It's not as faithful to the book as I was hoping for. Part 1 stayed fairly faithful to the novel, but part 2 took some liberties that I felt were rather excessively non-novel. It looks like a prequel series will happen before part 3. My issue is: there's no prequel that was written as a novel, so what will it be pulled from? Or will it just be "based loosely" on the novel?

There is a bunch of other Dune written by Kevin J Anderson and Brian Herbert (Franks son). I think the series in production is taken from one of their books about the Bene Gesserit.

long_time_Dish

Jun 4, 2024

klang said:
There is a bunch of other Dune written by Kevin J Anderson and Brian Herbert (Franks son). I think the series in production is taken from one of their books about the Bene Gesserit.

Correct. I've read all of them (yes, it took awhile, better part of a year, in my spare time). And they can't really consider or classify a series about the Bene Gesserit as a prequel. Sure, I suppose they can call it that, if they want to, because it begins before the time of Paul Atredies, but it's still a stretch. It's a Dune-related novel, not a prequel as we generally think of prequels...

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Today at 3:41 PM

Big finish coming:

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long_time_Dish

46 minutes ago

Well, it looks good! I just hope they stayed close to the trilogy, but it doesn't look like it.

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