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At last! We have word from Motorola regarding their plans regarding C-Band and that word is ... um ... well ... judge for yourself:
"Please note that Motorola is continuously working with our customers to deliver expectations and offerings that will meet our customers needs. Motorola operates the C-Band authorization center on a cost-recovery basis for the benefit of those who continue to utilize C-Band as a content delivery platform. As programmers move from C-Band to other distribution methods, costs on a per-user basis continue to rise. Motorola will continue to operate the Authorization Center until the remaining users no longer feel that it is an economically viable distribution strategy for their content."
On further inquiry, Motorola's spokeswoman would neither confirm nor deny that the company had promised to keep C-Band authorizations operating at least through the end of the year. So, hmm. What else?
We promised to tell the "other side of the story" and although there appear to be more sides than a hexaflexagon, we will try. On one side of the equation are those who blame the C-Band struggle on NPS. A sample of such comment comes from one reader who writes:
"The real question is "the commitment NPS has to the C-Band business," after supporting them in this business for over a decade. I have found some consumers indicating that NPS is trying to switch them to Dish Network and refusing to activate any new receivers. I find this troubling that the burden be put onto Motorola, when the discussion should be towards NPS's commitment."
In response to such comments (and similar, less polite ones) Jon Pardieck, NPS CFO writes (in part): "This is appalling and far from the truth. NPS has been the back bone to C-Band for many many years.......we are and have been the only C-Band distributor to go to the expense (in excess of $100,000 per month) of re-uplinking multiple programs so our customers can continue to receive the programs they enjoyed watching."
Mr. Pardieck also notes that NPS is offering the DISH solution to its customers, saying "We feel this is a great offer to a C-Band customer who's current system is likely to be in jeopardy beyond 2010."
Finally, we also have some comments from those who believe that the press is complicit in a C-Band death beat. Writes Dr. Mull of Satellite Emporium:
"I contend one of the missing parts of 'the C-Band Saga's missing story' that you are not telling is that part you [and your colleagues] have always not told, and are still not telling. You find C-band worthy of your mention now during your deathwatch? ... It's been all about little dish since their inception. Even now... what's the buzz in little dish? Oh boy, might they get a la-carte, or not? My - oh - my, what shall the future hold? Such edge-of-the-seat riveting news! No mention at all, as usual, that C-Band was built on a la-carte, and in fact still has it!!"•
At last! We have word from Motorola regarding their plans regarding C-Band and that word is ... um ... well ... judge for yourself:
"Please note that Motorola is continuously working with our customers to deliver expectations and offerings that will meet our customers needs. Motorola operates the C-Band authorization center on a cost-recovery basis for the benefit of those who continue to utilize C-Band as a content delivery platform. As programmers move from C-Band to other distribution methods, costs on a per-user basis continue to rise. Motorola will continue to operate the Authorization Center until the remaining users no longer feel that it is an economically viable distribution strategy for their content."
On further inquiry, Motorola's spokeswoman would neither confirm nor deny that the company had promised to keep C-Band authorizations operating at least through the end of the year. So, hmm. What else?
We promised to tell the "other side of the story" and although there appear to be more sides than a hexaflexagon, we will try. On one side of the equation are those who blame the C-Band struggle on NPS. A sample of such comment comes from one reader who writes:
"The real question is "the commitment NPS has to the C-Band business," after supporting them in this business for over a decade. I have found some consumers indicating that NPS is trying to switch them to Dish Network and refusing to activate any new receivers. I find this troubling that the burden be put onto Motorola, when the discussion should be towards NPS's commitment."
In response to such comments (and similar, less polite ones) Jon Pardieck, NPS CFO writes (in part): "This is appalling and far from the truth. NPS has been the back bone to C-Band for many many years.......we are and have been the only C-Band distributor to go to the expense (in excess of $100,000 per month) of re-uplinking multiple programs so our customers can continue to receive the programs they enjoyed watching."
Mr. Pardieck also notes that NPS is offering the DISH solution to its customers, saying "We feel this is a great offer to a C-Band customer who's current system is likely to be in jeopardy beyond 2010."
Finally, we also have some comments from those who believe that the press is complicit in a C-Band death beat. Writes Dr. Mull of Satellite Emporium:
"I contend one of the missing parts of 'the C-Band Saga's missing story' that you are not telling is that part you [and your colleagues] have always not told, and are still not telling. You find C-band worthy of your mention now during your deathwatch? ... It's been all about little dish since their inception. Even now... what's the buzz in little dish? Oh boy, might they get a la-carte, or not? My - oh - my, what shall the future hold? Such edge-of-the-seat riveting news! No mention at all, as usual, that C-Band was built on a la-carte, and in fact still has it!!"•
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Looks like dish is Bankrupt. Filling tomorrow Tuesday June 30th
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Can't remember where or who I saw predict this.
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.
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Anyone watching IPTV on Amiko 4k s52 UHD ?
I put a bunch of *.m3u files in the root of my USB KEY but Amiko won't try to play them?
No INSTRUCTIONS for this.
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I put a bunch of *.m3u files in the root of my USB KEY but Amiko won't try to play them?
No INSTRUCTIONS for this.
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Over the past year I have been tracking the changes on Western Arc. The past 3 months have had a lot of changes that I posted in the other MPEG2 Western Arc shutdown thread. Now that 129 is (basically) out of commission, here is where Western Arc stands. This is just a national channel list, (no local channels) based off what I can see and what others have contributed. Thanks to everyone who has helped me come up with the locations of some of the channels – I would try and list all of you out, but I know I would forget someone! As has been suggested in other parts of the forum, it would be great to collect the spotbeam data for those who could contribute!
A couple of pieces of info:
When I talk about number of channels on a transponder, all my numbers are unique channels – for example, channel 101 and 199 are the same channel mapped to two different numbers, but in terms of space, only takes up 1 channel worth of bandwidth on the transponder.
Finally, I have to give Dish a ton of credit. When it was 110/119/129, Dish had 82 transponders they were using – it took a lot to get it down to 50 transponders and figure out where all the pieces were going to go. What are the things they did to get there? Here are the things I saw:
A couple of pieces of info:
- Out of the 64 transponders between 110/119, there are currently 50 transponders that Dish is licensed to use. 22 are Spotbeams, 28 are ConUS transponders (14 transponders are licensed to DirecTV and Dish doesn't have access to them)
- Those 28 ConUS transponders are divided as follows:
- 10 are dedicated to National HD channels (ESPN, CNN, Disney Channel, etc). Dish is maxing out at 16 HD channels per transponder (note – in an earlier post I said there was one transponder with 17 HD channels, that was an error on my part. When I double checked my listings, one channel changed transponders). Before the transition, there was a maximum of 14 HD channels per transponder.
- 1 transponder is dedicated to adult content
- 2 are a mixture HD PPV Movies/4k channels
- 3 are set aside for HD Sports channels that are only on for live games (NBA League Pass, the PAC 12 alternate channels, some PPV events, etc); 3 SD PPV Sports Channels are there as well.
- 7 are for SD and/or music channels. Dish is maxing out at 26 SD channels per transponder thus far on the SD transponders.
- 5 transponders on 110 I have no channels listed but Dish operates. (they are labeled as ConUS on my chart below) There are other things that could be on those transponders, like RV Distant Networks, internal testing channels, etc, that I can't see. They might be able to be used for additional content, but I am not sure exactly what is on those transponders.
When I talk about number of channels on a transponder, all my numbers are unique channels – for example, channel 101 and 199 are the same channel mapped to two different numbers, but in terms of space, only takes up 1 channel worth of bandwidth on the transponder.
Finally, I have to give Dish a ton of credit. When it was 110/119/129, Dish had 82 transponders they were using – it took a lot to get it down to 50 transponders and figure out where all the pieces were going to go. What are the things they did to get there? Here are the things I saw:
- During this migration from 129, Dish converted 7 ConUS transponders on 119 into Spotbeams – that is how they ended up fitting on all the HD locals that used to be on 129. (for those interested, TP 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13 are the ones that used to be ConUS on 119 that are now Spotbeam)
- Removed almost all SD duplicate channels that are offered in HD
- Converted remaining SD channels from MPEG2 to MPEG4
- There are also 2 subtle things that changed from the HD channel perspective
- At the beginning of the transition, Dish decreased the number of PPV Movie channels – prior to this transition the PPV channels HD PPV movies were 502-522; now they are 502-517.
- At the beginning of April when MLB, NBA, and NHL regular seasons were all going on at the same time and this transition began, there were a ton of games "joined in progress" for the HD feeds. That wasn't common since the days before the full time HD RSN's. The reason for that was prior to the transition, Dish had 4 transponders set aside for HD Sports – 2 transponders was the bandwidth set aside from the HD RSN's before Dish dropped the RSN's, then 2 transponders were for alternate channels. Now we are down to 3 transponders for HD sports.
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I ran the Schedule S through ChatGPT to analyze the data quickly, and according to ChatGPT, the 16 transponders currently being used for SpotBeams on 110 is all that has been authorized by the FCC. So Dish might be using TP 01-13 for ConUS on 110 for the foreseeable future. If that is the case, Dish has a ton of space to bring in more HD channels nationally or use that bandwidth for something else.
I know my lists aren't perfect as I can't see all the test channels and behind the scenes channels, but for channels available to subscribers - there are no channels on 119 TP 01-08 and 10; and on 110, TP14 has only 4 channels. With Dish putting 16 HD channels per transponder right now, that is about 145+ slots for HD channels that are available if Dish does keep 110 as ConUS for TP 01-13.
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