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Last reply Feb 14, 2010 · posted in FTA Receiver / Equipment Support

SAT additions to AZBox with DiSEqC

This is just a note of commentary on my observations for adding new satellites to the AZBox when using DiSEqC 1.2 motor positioning.

Because of my longitude coordinate, USALS does not function to drive my motor if the satellite I desire is further than approximately 59° east or west from my site.

Therefore, when it comes to satellite 30.0°W Hispasat 1C/1D, I must revert to using DiSEqC 1.2 motor control.

Additional comment: I did not personally care for the stock list of satellites in my AZBox. I had no use for the hundred or more satellites listed which were only viewable from Asia, Africa and Europe. I also did not like the naming and organization of the North American satellites.

Therefore, I set out to create an entirely virgin list of satellites for my own use by wiping the entire slate clean of all this "junk" and starting over with the intention of manually entering every satellite that I know that I can get and all their TPs.

I ran into a few problems in doing so.

The first problem that I should mention is that you DO NOT want to delete ALL the satellites from the AZBox! It does NOT like this and produces an error. Worst yet, it won't let you correct that error very easily. You want to leave at least ONE satellite remaining in the list.

To give you a humorous example of what it was like following the deletion of the very last satellite in my list....

AZBOX: ERROR! THERE ARE NO SATELLITES!

ME: Yes, I know this. I intend to add a satellite by going to the menu where I may add and edit satellites... This menu here...

AZBOX: ERROR! ACCESS DENIED! THERE ARE NO SATELLITES!

ME: Yes, I understand that there are no satellites, let me add one... HERE.

AZBOX: ERROR! NOT ALLOWED. THERE ARE NO SATELLITES!

ME: Listen HAL, let me explain. I deleted the satellites on purpose. Now I want to replace some of them. OK?

AZBOX: I AM SORRY DAVE. I CAN NOT ALLOW YOU TO DO THAT. THERE ARE NO SATELLITES IN YOUR LIST.

ME: OK HAL, I am just going to detach this cord from the wall socket to conserve energy, ok?

HAL 9000 (I mean AZBox): I AM SORRY DAVE. I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT THIS WAS A NECESSARY PROCESS. PLEASE, GO AHEAD AND INSTALL SOME SATELLITES INTO YOUR LIST NOW.

ME: Thank you, HAL. You miserable schmuck.

AZBOX: WHAT DID YOU SAY DAVE? I DIDN'T HEAR YOU?

ME: Uh, nothing HAL, nothing important.

Well, you get the idea. DON'T delete ALL of your satellites from the list! HAL will get you.

Ok, enough of that. Now here is the really glitchy problem, and I don't know if I would have discovered it without cleaning house this way.

97.0°W is my truest south satellite and the biggest one to edit. The second largest satellite (in regards to TP and channel numbers) is 30.0°W and this one requires me to use DiSEqC 1.2 to position it. So I wanted to get these two out of the way first. No problems. A very clean, easy and quick install and I was on my way to the third satellite.

Here is where the problem arose. No matter which stellite I entered next, it would change Hispasat's coordinates to the same as the newly added satellite.
So, if I added 43.0°W, Hispasat would then change its name and coordinates to "43.0°W Hispasat"! If I added 63.0°W Telstar 11, Hispasat would show up as "63.0°W Hispasat"!

I attempted all sorts of tricks to prevent this, like rebooting the AZBOX after adding each satellite, hoping that it would register properly and not alter any of the previously entered satellites. No joy. I tried several methods to "RESET" and "SAVE" the position of Hispasat in the DiSEqC 1.2 motor mode control, still no joy.

No matter what I did, it wanted to screw up the name and coordinate of the one atellite that I had set up using DiSEqC 1.2.

The last thing I tried, which appears to have worked. Is that after setting up Hispasat using DiSEqC 1.2. I then changed the motor selection of Hispasat to USALS while I added the rest of the satellites to my list.

Therefore, if you plan to use DiSEqC 1.2 for motor control of any of your satellites within the AZBox, be sure to set the motor control for each to USALS until you have all your adds and edits complete. Once you are done adding satellites to your list, you may return and set up any and all sats that will be using DiSEqC 1.2 back to that mode.

When I first received my AZBox and started playing around with adding satellites to the list, I detected all sorts of strange anomalies similar to this. However, I could not really explain what was going on. I now have a little clearer picture because I can see it with a smaller list of satellites and I can reproduce the same effect every time and correct for it every time as well.

There is no way to describe this in less words and you almost have to experience it yourself for the "light" to come on. But, somehow I need to get this glitch reported to OpenSAT so that they can diagnose why it is doing this and correct it.

What an experience! It seems that the AZBox does NOT like to have satellites set up with both DiSEqC 1.2 and USALS at the same time or at least it appears difficult to set them up this way.

RADAR

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B.J.

Feb 13, 2010

I know I'm probably using an older firmware version (3877 , which is the most recent official version) rather than one of the newer daily/weekly versions, so my experiences may be different, but the above seems to demonstrate why it is much easier to set up your satellites via an editor assisted by use of those .xml files. I've never seen anything like the above.
I downloaded one of those .xml files, then edited it myself, eliminating all the sats I didn't want, then with the help of a channel editor, put all these sats into the Azbox.
I run my Azbox slaved, so I don't need either DiseqC-1.2 or USALS, so I put the sats in with motor control turned off. All the sats are in there in the proper order, etc. If I then go in, and change the motor control parameters to either USALS or DiseqC-1.2, I don't seem to have any problems. I just now set one of my sats up as DiseqC-1.2, and it took it fine. Set up another sat as USALS, and it took that fine. Didn't mess up the position of any satellites in the list.
Anyway, unless the later firmware is significantly different, I really think that you'd avoid much of the problems you're experiencing if you'd first use a channel editor to set up all the sats with motor control off, THEN make whatever changes seem appropriate.
Although, it occurred to me that part of your problem might possibly be related to either the order of the steps you're using or/and the way you're saving. The reason I think this might be possible is that DiseqC-1.2 doesn't need or use a longitude parameter whereas USALS does. So I'm kind of guessing that if you set up a new sat using the remote (I didn't, since I set them all up using the editor), that IF you set them up in DiseqC-1.2 first, then it won't get a longitude entered properly, whereas if you set it up initially with USALS, then it might properly set the longitude. This is just a guess on my part though, since I haven't needed to set up sats via the remote. The other part of my guess, is that I'm wondering what save {command} mode is being used when saving a DiseqC-1.2 position? If AUTOMATIC mode is used, it's possible that you might be confusing the positions of sats. When I use DiseqC-1.2, I like to tell the receiver what sat position number I want to use, maingly because this allows me to switch the coax over to another receiver and then that receiver can be used to send the dish to satellites without actually finding them and saving them on that receiver. Ie I just enter the appropriate sat number for each sat, and that receiver is then set up, without any effort (assuming use of a channel editor).
Anyway, I think that most of the problems described here would be avoided it a channel editor was used. But perhaps if I were using the same firmware, and trying to do the same thing you are, I might experience the same behavior..... I don't know.

AcWxRadar

Feb 13, 2010

B.J. said:
I know I'm probably using an older firmware version (3877 , which is the most recent official version) rather than one of the newer daily/weekly versions, so my experiences may be different, but the above seems to demonstrate why it is much easier to set up your satellites via an editor assisted by use of those .xml files. I've never seen anything like the above.
I downloaded one of those .xml files, then edited it myself, eliminating all the sats I didn't want, then with the help of a channel editor, put all these sats into the Azbox.
I run my Azbox slaved, so I don't need either DiseqC-1.2 or USALS, so I put the sats in with motor control turned off. All the sats are in there in the proper order, etc. If I then go in, and change the motor control parameters to either USALS or DiseqC-1.2, I don't seem to have any problems. I just now set one of my sats up as DiseqC-1.2, and it took it fine. Set up another sat as USALS, and it took that fine. Didn't mess up the position of any satellites in the list.
Anyway, unless the later firmware is significantly different, I really think that you'd avoid much of the problems you're experiencing if you'd first use a channel editor to set up all the sats with motor control off, THEN make whatever changes seem appropriate.
Although, it occurred to me that part of your problem might possibly be related to either the order of the steps you're using or/and the way you're saving. The reason I think this might be possible is that DiseqC-1.2 doesn't need or use a longitude parameter whereas USALS does. So I'm kind of guessing that if you set up a new sat using the remote (I didn't, since I set them all up using the editor), that IF you set them up in DiseqC-1.2 first, then it won't get a longitude entered properly, whereas if you set it up initially with USALS, then it might properly set the longitude. This is just a guess on my part though, since I haven't needed to set up sats via the remote. The other part of my guess, is that I'm wondering what save {command} mode is being used when saving a DiseqC-1.2 position? If AUTOMATIC mode is used, it's possible that you might be confusing the positions of sats. When I use DiseqC-1.2, I like to tell the receiver what sat position number I want to use, maingly because this allows me to switch the coax over to another receiver and then that receiver can be used to send the dish to satellites without actually finding them and saving them on that receiver. Ie I just enter the appropriate sat number for each sat, and that receiver is then set up, without any effort (assuming use of a channel editor).
Anyway, I think that most of the problems described here would be avoided it a channel editor was used. But perhaps if I were using the same firmware, and trying to do the same thing you are, I might experience the same behavior..... I don't know.

B.J.

You are exactly right regarding the use of an editor. I so much want to use one to avoid hassles such as this! But, there isn't an editor that I can trust just yet.

With the (beta) firmware that I am using, the editor that I think that you are referring to, doesn't work well. The other editors available have given me some rather troublesome and sporadic operation.

We need "CHANNEL MASTER" for the AZBox! Definitely.

You also hit on one item as a "procedural" matter that would probably be the best practice in any matter. That would be to ADD all the sats with the motor control set to OFF and then, after adding them to the list, change the motor control as required. It isn't too big of a deal for me since I only have the one satellite (30.0°W) that requires me to use DiSEqC 1.2, the rest all are set up with USALS and they don't interfere with one another.

B.J. said:
it occurred to me that part of your problem might possibly be related to either the order of the steps you're using or/and the way you're saving. The reason I think this might be possible is that DiseqC-1.2 doesn't need or use a longitude parameter whereas USALS does.

B.J., to reply to your quote above, you will have to take my word for this, but I tried every way that I could possibly find to reorder the steps, try new steps, save the results and try them over and over again in various orders looking for a proper method. I think I spent about 16-18 hours, non-stop with only a short nap and a few distractions, trying different things over and over again looking for a solution and I still don't know if it is really perfect just yet. It is definitely a bug in the programming of the AZBox and not an "operator error". This is the strangest and most difficult glitch that I have seen with any receiver, other than one that just doesn't turn on.

In any respect, I did learn something about the AZBox and its programming.

RADAR

putney

Feb 13, 2010

Maybe I missed it in an earlier post, but it must be mentioned; DO NOT USE the "RESETTING" option to clear a DiSEqC setting on a satellite! It will shuffle all of the other sat's locations and all will have to be relocated.

I went through this yesterday after cleaning up some sats that I no longer use DiSEqC on. I wish I would have left it alone.

B.J.

Feb 14, 2010

AcWxRadar said:
B.J.

You are exactly right regarding the use of an editor. I so much want to use one to avoid hassles such as this! But, there isn't an editor that I can trust just yet.

With the (beta) firmware that I am using, the editor that I think that you are referring to, doesn't work well. The other editors available have given me some rather troublesome and sporadic operation.

I agree that the editors don't work well for making changes, unfortunately, but I didn't really use it much for that purpose. I can't remember exactly the process I used, but basically, I took one of those .xml files you can create at some web page, then I put it into a regular Windows style text editor, one that has an option to use linux style 0D line termination, and used that to remove and/or add satellites. THEN, I used the Azbox editor to import that file, and convert it to Azbox format, and then send it to the Azbox. I did do some minor editing with the Azbox editor, such as perhaps deleting some entries, and perhaps something else {I can't remember}, but I definately did not try to change satellite parameters in the editor, because I had quickly learned that it didn't work very well, like you said.
Basically, I just used the editor to get a list of satellites into the Azbox in the proper order, then I did all setup of the sat parameters using the remote. It would be nice if they got an editor that allowed you to change all the parameters in the computer, but I agree that that can't be done yet. But at least with the version I have (and I thought that it would work with newer versions too, but maybe not), it would function with respect to the basic functions of upload, download, deleting sats, and I think changing the longitude perhaps.

AcWxRadar said:
You also hit on one item as a "procedural" matter that would probably be the best practice in any matter. That would be to ADD all the sats with the motor control set to OFF and then, after adding them to the list, change the motor control as required. It isn't too big of a deal for me since I only have the one satellite (30.0°W) that requires me to use DiSEqC 1.2, the rest all are set up with USALS and they don't interfere with one another.

B.J., to reply to your quote above, you will have to take my word for this, but I tried every way that I could possibly find to reorder the steps, try new steps, save the results and try them over and over again in various orders looking for a proper method. I think I spent about 16-18 hours, non-stop with only a short nap and a few distractions, trying different things over and over again looking for a solution and I still don't know if it is really perfect just yet. It is definitely a bug in the programming of the AZBox and not an "operator error". This is the strangest and most difficult glitch that I have seen with any receiver, other than one that just doesn't turn on.

In any respect, I did learn something about the AZBox and its programming.

RADAR

What you describe, relative to spending hours of trying to get the sats in there right reminds me of what I initially went through with the Azbox, because I found that the sat/transponder lists that came with the box, and were there even after upgrading firmware, were corrupted, and there was basically NO WAY to get the satellite list the way I wanted it. I had different problems than you did though, I think in my case, I was TRYING to delete all the sats, but it wouldn't LET me delete them all. There was one sat that I couldn't delete, and as long as that sat was in there, nothing worked right. I'd make changes, and the changes to one sat would cause other sats to be changed. It was a mess, and I spent days trying to fix it.
Finally, I gave up and tried that .xml thing, editing the file myself before feeding it into the editor. After I got a "clean" set of sat/transponder data in there, everything has worked well, and like I said, yesterday, I experimented, changing the setup of 3 or 4 of my sats, moving them from USALS to DiseqC-1.2, rebooted, and it retained the settings. I tried using the AUTO mode where the Azbox enters sat numbers starting with 1,2,3, etc, and also used the option to manually choose the sat number. The diseqC sat number then appears up with the sat name, to remind you which sat number you used, which is nice. I even tried setting diseqC-1.2 sat numbers in scrambled order of longitude, and that worked fine too. Everything seemed to work.
So again, it may just be that they broke the newer firmware versions (which I'll probably find out soon, as I'm thinking about upgrading soon, perhaps after the Olympics are over), but I really think that you might be suffering the symptoms of a corrupted sat/transponder data set, and that those symptom might go away if you'd start from scratch with one of those .xml files. My Azbox just seemed to have a mind of it's own, and was doing all sorts of weird things until I wiped that corrupted data out of there, which I was NOT able to do via deleting with the remote.
But I guess I'll see what happens when I finally switch to a newer firmware version. I've been waiting for improvements on either the streaming or PVR functions, and it looks like they are at least trying to do some things with the streaming, so I'll probably bite the bullet and try upgrading again.

B.J.

Feb 14, 2010

putney said:
Maybe I missed it in an earlier post, but it must be mentioned; DO NOT USE the "RESETTING" option to clear a DiSEqC setting on a satellite! It will shuffle all of the other sat's locations and all will have to be relocated.

I went through this yesterday after cleaning up some sats that I no longer use DiSEqC on. I wish I would have left it alone.

I think that "resetting" command is just a simple "resync" command, which has been a function of just about every sat receiver I've ever had. What you describe is what is supposed to happen.
I wouldn't say "DO NO USE" it, but I would definately say USE IT WITH CARE.
What happens with any motorized TVRO system, is that sometimes the system gets out of sync. On a big C-band system this might be caused by the receiver missing or getting bogus pulse signals from the actuator. On the little H-H motors, it can be something similar, or it can be caused by the motor getting corrupted diseqC commands, or just getting it's memory messed up a bit.
But what often happens, is that sometimes ALL the satellites get shifted a bit, all by the same amount, sort of like the zero position has changed, so that when it's computing a move of X degrees from it's reference position, it will be off a bit. Often, the motor has just forgotten where it was, and you can fix the situation by doing a GOTO-ZERO command or GOTO-reference or whatever they call it, then things are fixed when you go back to your sats. But sometimes, the motor has completely forgotten where it's zero is, perhaps due to receiving a bogus hard reset command. If this happens, I think it's usually best to actually correct the situation by moving the motor to it's zero, and doing a hard reset, however you can also use a resync command, which is what I think this resetting thing is. To use the resync command, you usually go to a sat, then use manual controls to move to peak the sat, then if you do the resync, it will fix ALL the sats at once, so you won't have to peak each sat. Of course this makes things a LOT easier, however what USUALLY happens, is that before you realize that ALL the sats are off, you have probably already readjusted the positions of a few satellites just using the SAVE function, which only affects one sat, so then when you do the resync, it will fix sats that you haven't touched, but will mess up the ones you've changed with the SAVE. Since sometimes, one sat will get messed up, you're never quite sure whether to use a save or reset, so the odds are good that whichever you do, it's going to have a good chance of messing something up. Just a fact of life with sat receivers. But basically, if you thing that ALL the sats seem to be out of whack, then the resetting thing is a good command, but if you think it's just one sat, then don't use that, use the save instead.
The above is assuming that resetting is the same as resync, but it seems like it must be.

putney

Feb 14, 2010

B.J. said:
I think that "resetting" command is just a simple "resync" command, which has been a function of just about every sat receiver I've ever had. What you describe is what is supposed to happen.

Actually I found that it deletes the DiSEqC position setting (P7). Something weird happens then. It's like if you delete P7, P8 falls in the gap and tries to fill that position. I doubt that is what is happening, but it definitely screws up the rest.

I wouldn't say "DO NO USE" it, but I would definately say USE IT WITH CARE.

No, I stand behind my statement "DO NOT USE", but hey, if you have multiple DiSEqC settings you just have an urge to redo, by all means, don't let me stop you!

The above is assuming that resetting is the same as resync, but it seems like it must be.

It's not. Go To 0 does a good job of re-syncing.

B.J.

Feb 14, 2010

putney said:
Actually I found that it deletes the DiSEqC position setting (P7). Something weird happens then. It's like if you delete P7, P8 falls in the gap and tries to fill that position. ....

Well, if that's the case, then that's bad news. In my reply to Radar above, I mentioned the problem that the Fortec Mercury had. What you describe sounds exactly like what the Mercury did. Ie if you have saved a bunch of sats, and the mercury put them in positions 1,2,3,4,5, etc, then say you delete satellite 2, what would happen was there would be a shift of sat numbers, and you'd try to go to sat 3, but it would actually go to sat4, and if you tried to go to sat 4, it would actually go to sat 5, etc, etc. I finally wrote a program that allowed me to fix it with a binary editor, but it was a mess, and I finally just stopped using the Mercury. I hope the Azbox doesn't have THAT problem, but what you describe sound real similar.

putney said:
No, I stand behind my statement "DO NOT USE", but hey, if you have multiple DiSEqC settings you just have an urge to redo, by all means, don't let me stop you!

Well now, I use my Azbox slaved to my C-band receiver, so I haven't needed to use it at all, but if I can ever locate a 2nd DVB-S2 tuner, then I'll definitely want to get diseqC-1.2 working. I may experiment with it a bit more next time I upgrade.

putney said:
It's not. Go To 0 does a good job of re-syncing.

Well, the Go To 0 should resync if the motor has just lost track of where it is, but still has the proper location of the zero position, but a true resync would be used if the zero location has been corrupted.
A resync should NOT change any position numbers though, so if the "resetting" thing is doing that, then I'm not sure what it is doing. Perhaps it is simply wiping out whatever you've previously saved for that sat.... but it shouldn't affect the other numbers.

Maybe I'll play with that today. Since I don't actually have my Azbox connected to a diseqC motor, it won't hurt anything to try, and might be interesting to see what it does.

AcWxRadar

Feb 14, 2010

B.J. said:
What you describe, relative to spending hours of trying to get the sats in there right reminds me of what I initially went through with the Azbox, because I found that the sat/transponder lists that came with the box, and were there even after upgrading firmware, were corrupted, and there was basically NO WAY to get the satellite list the way I wanted it. I had different problems than you did though, I think in my case, I was TRYING to delete all the sats, but it wouldn't LET me delete them all. There was one sat that I couldn't delete, and as long as that sat was in there, nothing worked right. I'd make changes, and the changes to one sat would cause other sats to be changed. It was a mess, and I spent days trying to fix it.

B.J.

I believe that I was having many of the same problems in the beginning for the same reasons - corrupted or inaccurate stock satellite and transponder lists. When I attempted to delete ALL the satellites, I was presented with a major ERROR and it said that the sat list was empty, but after fighting with it a bit, I found out that it actually had not allowed me to delete them all. It did retain ONE satellite, just like you observed.

I think the AZBox has a built in mechanism that won't truly allow you to delete everything. Almost like a self preservation mechanism. When I rebooted the AZBox, it showed me that there was really one satellite remaining. So, I added one sat that I knew that I was going to use and then deleted that last unwanted one from the stock list. That got me past those errors and menu blocks.

As I was adding all the satellites that I desired, I found another peculiar (but pleasent) function. It seems that the AZBox has a feature similar to "auto-complete" on a PC. After I entered one satellite and set up the switch and LNBF parameters etc. It automatically set these items up for every subsequent satellite that I added. This is really nice if you are adding a long list of satellites that use the same setup parameters, which is what I have.

RADAR

AcWxRadar

Feb 14, 2010

B.J. said:
Well, if that's the case, then that's bad news. In my reply to Radar above, I mentioned the problem that the Fortec Mercury had. What you describe sounds exactly like what the Mercury did. Ie if you have saved a bunch of sats, and the mercury put them in positions 1,2,3,4,5, etc, then say you delete satellite 2, what would happen was there would be a shift of sat numbers, and you'd try to go to sat 3, but it would actually go to sat4, and if you tried to go to sat 4, it would actually go to sat 5, etc, etc. I finally wrote a program that allowed me to fix it with a binary editor, but it was a mess, and I finally just stopped using the Mercury. I hope the Azbox doesn't have THAT problem, but what you describe sound real similar.

This would not be a good thing if the AZBox shuffled the positions in this manner.

B.J. said:
Well, the Go To 0 should resync if the motor has just lost track of where it is, but still has the proper location of the zero position, but a true resync would be used if the zero location has been corrupted.
A resync should NOT change any position numbers though, so if the "resetting" thing is doing that, then I'm not sure what it is doing. Perhaps it is simply wiping out whatever you've previously saved for that sat.... but it shouldn't affect the other numbers.

One possible problem that might arise here is if you didn't realize that the home or zero position was off before you located and saved your satellite positions and then resynced the motor afterwards. If you rezeroed or re-synced the motor after adding the satellite positions, then it would throw them all off by the amount that the motor zero was off initially.

RADAR

putney

Feb 14, 2010

B.J. said:
Well, the Go To 0 should resync if the motor has just lost track of where it is, but still has the proper location of the zero position, but a true resync would be used if the zero location has been corrupted.
A resync should NOT change any position numbers though, so if the "resetting" thing is doing that, then I'm not sure what it is doing. Perhaps it is simply wiping out whatever you've previously saved for that sat.... but it shouldn't affect the other numbers.

I guess what I meant to say is that Go To 0 re-syncs the motor well and sets USALS in the proper place. It can sometimes retrain a DiSEqC location. It's all really buggy though. Works great on one update, goes to hell on the next. The last two I have found to be very buggy. Lots of memory type of random things going on.

BTW More problems with DiSEqC today... I'm in the process of setting up dummy USAL sat locations for my Cband and Circular LNBs, which are 10º off center in either direction. (see pic)

The thing I like on my CNX is that it allows you to edit Sat locations after the fact. So if Using USALS if 91º would gain a couple of Q points at 91.1º, you simply type that in instead of using DiSEqC. I have a couple of sats that benefit from a slight tweak.

I'm cool with the dummy sat set up. The problem I am seeing is that I will soon (hopefully) be using DiSEqC to control a GBOX and my problems will return.

putney

Feb 14, 2010

AcWxRadar said:
If you rezeroed or re-synced the motor after adding the satellite positions, then it would throw them all off by the amount that the motor zero was off initially.

RADAR

Yes, I have found this to happen from time to time. The procedure for me now is to update, zero motor, check locations.

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N5XZS

Last reply 30 minutes ago · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info

New low power station with CP has been granted. "Albuquerque "

New low power station has been granted by the FCC and the new call leter is K33OB-D on RF ch. 33.

Will run at 15 KW ERP, this one runs from the Westside same location as KWPL-LD a HC2 owned station.

It's going to be aimed at eastern part of Albuquerque, so it's tightly focused beam pattern.

This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time.

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Mr Tony

Yesterday at 12:28 PM

N5XZS said:
This new station is owned by Digital Network and what kind of programmings is unkown at this time

probably the same programming they have been putting on their other owned stations.
The 'get after it media' stations

Get After It Media

www.getafteritmedia.com

Like Heartland, Retro, rev'n, Action etc

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comfortably_numb

Yesterday at 4:35 PM

Mr Tony said:
probably the same programming they have been putting on their other owned stations.
The 'get after it media' stations

Get After It Media

www.getafteritmedia.com

Like Heartland, Retro, rev'n, Action etc

We already have those diginets here.

N5XZS

Yesterday at 4:51 PM

Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets on like the Rev'n, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station. :hatsoff2

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comfortably_numb

Yesterday at 4:54 PM

N5XZS said:
Yeah, there are some diginets like Heartland, Retro, The Family Channel diginetworks that we already have here in this market and we don't need duplicates, but bring the new diginets like Revn, Karate Acton movies, different kind of music videos on the new station.

I watch MovieSphere Gold channel a lot. Many recent movies on that digitnet

N5XZS

Yesterday at 4:59 PM

Yes that's a good channel MovieSphere, only thing is the missing CC on it.

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30 minutes ago

According to the FCC listing, the tower is near I-40 and Juan Tabo:

FCCInfo Results

FCC Info is a Radio and Television Station Search Engine provided by Cavell, Mertz & Associates, Inc.

www.fccinfo.com

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 12:29 AM · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center

Tapatalk Removed

Due to security concerns and the fact that the Tapatalk Plugin for Xenforo is no longer being updated we have removed Tapatalk support from SatelliteGuys.

For those who were using it we recommend using our PWA App instead which is faster and does not have all the spam Tapatalk had. Below is a graphic showing how to add SatelliteGuys to your devices home screen. (While iOS is shown the process is mostly the same for Android.)

Thanks for your understanding.

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Foxbat

Yesterday at 9:28 AM

Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…

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dweber

Yesterday at 10:19 PM

Foxbat said:
Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…

What is PWA app? PWA utilities seem to be a Spanish app. I hope you are seeing this since nothing seems to be working. I will miss SatelliteGuys. Tapatalk worked well. The Siri browser doesn't seem to work well.

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Peter Parker

Today at 12:27 AM

Foxbat said:
Thank you, Scott, for adding years to my Life and dropping my BP a few millimeters! Money well spent…

Hooray!

Peter Parker

Today at 12:29 AM

dweber said:
What is PWA app? PWA utilities seem to be a Spanish app. I hope you are seeing this since nothing seems to be working. I will miss SatelliteGuys. Tapatalk worked well. The Siri browser doesn't seem to work well.

Do you mean the safari browser?

BlackHitachi

Supporting Founder

Last reply Yesterday at 10:45 PM · posted in Movie Talk

Last & Next Movie Watched

Since the Reds have there thread we should too!

Last watched Nine inch Nails
Next 3:10 to Yuma

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osu1991

Saturday at 9:48 PM

Rooster Cogburn.

Keep forgetting the free movies on youtube are ad free with my premium subscription.

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dfergie

Sunday at 8:42 AM

osu1991 said:
Rooster Cogburn.

Keep forgetting the free movies on youtube are ad free with my premium subscription.

There are some really good movies on youtube.
Saving Private Ryan 4k, Dolby Atmos...

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"MysteryMan"

Tuesday at 4:39 AM

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harshness

Tuesday at 9:58 AM

dfergie said:
Saving Private Ryan 4k, Dolby Atmos...

These are severely limited. Getting better than stereo audio is improving, but still has a long way to go.

dfergie

Tuesday at 10:07 AM

harshness said:
These are severely limited. Getting better than stereo audio is improving, but still has a long way to go.

I went with my 4k disc after checking out that version.

osu1991

Yesterday at 9:56 PM

View: https://youtu.be/I68627xyDPA?is=gUZB0Yv_08pE0DR3

Tonight revisiting one of my favorites. Ranks up there with Star Wars, Raiders of the Lost Ark and Hunt For Red October.

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dfergie

Yesterday at 10:45 PM

Watching Monterey Pop, been awhile, had the DVD, but probably lost in the fire 10.5 years ago. HBOmax

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TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Yesterday at 10:33 PM · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

Paul's Microsoft Build 2026 Takeaways #shorts

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ue4NAM2-j90

Direct YouTube Link - Paul's Microsoft Build 2026 Takeaways #shorts
TWIT's Website
TWIT Live Feed

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Yesterday at 9:52 PM · posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network

XBOX's 2026 Game Plan & Console Comeback

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25hZtsi5420

Direct YouTube Link - XBOX's 2026 Game Plan & Console Comeback
TWIT's Website
TWIT Live Feed

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Peter Parker

Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Yesterday at 9:27 PM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Brave Browser for Androud

I have had good experiences with Brave but lately I am frustrated with it.

Now when I launch the app it shows a box at the bottom asking if I want to go back to the last opened page. It is in conveniently located and I would prefer to eliminate it.

Does anyone know how to do this?

Please let's not sidetrack the discussion into an exploration of why I don't care for it or a lecture about all the wonderful aspects of the feature. I just do not care for it.

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b4pjoe

Yesterday at 7:50 PM

I don't have an Android phone so I don't know if this will apply to the Brave settings on your android device but it works on the desktop for me.

Change this setting to either startup to a different website or a new tab page. I have mine set to open to google.com instead of where I left off and it doesn't ask me at the next startup if I want to open the last opened page unless it crashed.

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Peter Parker

Yesterday at 9:27 PM

b4pjoe said:
I don't have an Android phone so I don't know if this will apply to the Brave settings on your android device but it works on the desktop for me.

Change this setting to either startup to a different website or a new tab page. I have mine set to open to google.com instead of where I left off and it doesn't ask me at the next startup if I want to open the last opened page unless it crashed.

View attachment 191721

Thank you for trying to help. However thrse choices do not appear in Android. There is a setting for "New Tab Pages" that is similar but does not include your choice. I have tried all of the existing entries with no success

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RJT79

Last reply Yesterday at 9:22 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

MLB Extra Innings Issue with DISH

Hello everyone.

I am new here and I done a search on MLB Extra Innings and DISH and it led me to this forum and so I signed up and hopefully someone can help me out with some issues.

First off, I am a DISH Outdoors customer and I signed up for service back in late October of 2025. I have a Wally HD Receiver and I am using the DISH Playmaker OS 2.1 as my Antenna that operates on 110 and 119 Western Arc and Alternative 61.5, 110, and 119 satellites. I signed up for MLB Extra Innings back in March before the season began. I was excited to be able to watch MLB Extra Innings because I love baseball and I use to have MLB Extra Innings on Satellite DIRECTV back in 2001-2004 and on Satellite DISH back in 2016 and 2017.

I was a bit disappointed when I found out that it is actually MLB.TV Simulcasted to DISH Satellite (More on that later) Anyways I have been watching faithfully almost every night however about a week ago there was a problem. When I went to go to the game to watch a game the game wouldn't come in an I would send a refresh signal to my receiver and then I could watch the programming and when I went to switch games at that games appointed time slot my Wally HD Receiver who lockup where I couldn't change any channels or view the guide and it would reboot. The next night when I turned to a game at game start it still had the background it shows before the game started and again send a refresh signal and went though this same thing over and over. I added a movie channel to my lineup and had issues with showing up my Dish Wally HD Receiver.

With an investigation after several calls with DISH Support it was determined that by going to the diagnostics screen that I had a issue with my Tuner because any changes that I made to my programming these changes would not take affect on the Wally HD Receiver. In other words that Wally HD Receiver was toast!

I too had reported MLB Extra Innings issue to DISH and they created a ticket for it and said that someone would investigate the issue. I too took notice that under MyDISH account under MLB Extra Innings always before it would show that I was subscribed and on auto-renew. Now it shows nothing and even after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so that I can see it in guest mode it too doesn't even list a price and option for purchase as does the now WNBA League Pass.

After my DISH Receiver was ruined I had to buy a new Wally HD Receiver. I took advantage an bought 2 HD Wally's and added them both to my account. I called back to remove the old box off of the account and was told it was linked to MLB Extra Innings and the advanced technical support team said there was a glitch with MLB Extra Innings and hope to have a resolution in a couple of days and I could call back in to then to remove the box. But both the 2 new Wally HD Receivers are activated on my account. I asked them what the problem was with MLB Extra Innings and how long it would be and I was told there was a glitch as I asked to specify what they meant and got no answer. I again went and checked the MyDISH account page under the MLB Extra Innings page and it still doesn't list me as subscribed and after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so I could it see it as a guest mode and it still doesn't list the price and option for purchase as it does for the WNBA League Pass.

I am afraid to boot up these boxes and go through the activation screen process because of the issues with the MLB Extra Innings in fear it will do the same or mess up my boxes from being able to receive MLB Extra Inning because or any other programing because I was told that MLB Extra Innings wouldn't come in on those new box because it was activated with the Wally that is ruined and it needs removed first.

Now I have no DISH service going on a week and miss my MLB Extra Innings when the races are just heating up and now with two boxes activated I can't boot up because I am afraid it will mess them up and I will be out the $180.00 or so dollars I made in purchase on the receivers.

Is anyone else experiencing issues with their MLB Extra Innings and does anyone really know what this so called glitch actually is? I can't seem to get a clear answer from anybody and don't even know if it will even be fixed or anyone really understands it.

Now to my previous statement on how I was disappointed that MLB Extra Innings is actually MLB.TV in simulcast. When I had MLB Extra Innings before with DIRECTV in 2001-2004 and with DISH form 2016 and 2017. They would always show the commercials for every teams broadcast from their local market and all games would be authentic just as if you were watching in their home market. After I quit DISH I went to streaming for awhile and I done MLB.TV and I hated their features because of the no commercials, the delayed times of getting back after the commercial break, and not being able to listen to what studios had to say when they would cut into the studios, and always looking at the screen during commercial breaks with a screen that says commercial break in progress and a silhouette background of MLB Players doing baseball things and the their crazy commercial breaks sound. I was excited to go back to DISH thinking I escaped the horrors of MLB.TV. Well its actually the same thing. I compared them side by side and actually MLB.TV is ahead by just a few seconds. So actually MLB Extra Innings on Satellite is delayed from time period wise from actually watching MLB.TV which shows it is simulcasted. My question is when did this start? And is this legal? This isn't what I know MLB Extra Innings to be. I too had signed up for NHL Center Ice this past winter and thank goodness its authentic! They still have the commercials and its like watching it as you were in their home network and its the way it oughta be even if you only do get one feed of NHL Center Ice per team on DISH and don't know which feed it is every night.

Looking forward to your responses. So far happy with DISH but unhappy with this last week and the ruining of a Wally HD Receiver.

I hope I can be of some contribution here as well.

Sincerely,

RJ T.
From Illinois

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zippyfrog

Tuesday at 4:59 PM

I know they are doing some major satellite work - the second satellite at 110 which is now in use, and they are moving channels between 119 and 110. Maybe since there are no other sports going on, have they temporarily cut back on the out of market sports packages? I am not sure. It looks like those channels are all coming from 119 TP 13, 110 TP 12, and 110 TP 09.

Also, Dish's Scheduled Satellite Maintenance page doesn't have anything going on:

MyDISH

Manage your DISH account online. Pay your bill, view programming, upgrade services, and access customer support at MyDISH.

my.dish.com

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RJT79

Tuesday at 5:54 PM

zippyfrog said:
I know they are doing some major satellite work - the second satellite at 110 which is now in use, and they are moving channels between 119 and 110. Maybe since there are no other sports going on, have they temporarily cut back on the out of market sports packages? I am not sure. It looks like those channels are all coming from 119 TP 13, 110 TP 12, and 110 TP 09.

Also, Dish's Scheduled Satellite Maintenance page doesn't have anything going on:

MyDISH

Manage your DISH account online. Pay your bill, view programming, upgrade services, and access customer support at MyDISH.

my.dish.com

Trying to get use to this forum and where everything is located at. I saw you responded from my post on the changes and took me a while to get back to see this post. But yes, it is exactly what I was thinking. I too noticed the change of MLB Extra Innings from 110 to 119. Because of 30 teams they have to algin everything. Only other sport going on PPV wise is WNBA League Pass and I do not have a subscription to that but maybe some else who has it can confirm what they done and what satellite and transponders they are on.

This is a big shift for DISH. I just hope if Charlie Ergen does ever sell out to anyone that I can continue to use my DISH Playmaker and I can keep my Wally's. If its anything like what happened to DIRECTV a few years back which turned out to be a total disaster when AT&T acquired DIRECTV nothing there changed with boxes or anything and you continued to use the same service but I was very surprised to see AT&T sell it to TPG especially after they had just bought it now long ago.

RJ T.
From Illinois

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RJT79

Yesterday at 7:01 PM

RJT79 said:
Hello everyone.

I am new here and I done a search on MLB Extra Innings and DISH and it led me to this forum and so I signed up and hopefully someone can help me out with some issues.

First off, I am a DISH Outdoors customer and I signed up for service back in late October of 2025. I have a Wally HD Receiver and I am using the DISH Playmaker OS 2.1 as my Antenna that operates on 110 and 119 Western Arc and Alternative 61.5, 110, and 119 satellites. I signed up for MLB Extra Innings back in March before the season began. I was excited to be able to watch MLB Extra Innings because I love baseball and I use to have MLB Extra Innings on Satellite DIRECTV back in 2001-2004 and on Satellite DISH back in 2016 and 2017.

I was a bit disappointed when I found out that it is actually MLB.TV Simulcasted to DISH Satellite (More on that later) Anyways I have been watching faithfully almost every night however about a week ago there was a problem. When I went to go to the game to watch a game the game wouldn't come in an I would send a refresh signal to my receiver and then I could watch the programming and when I went to switch games at that games appointed time slot my Wally HD Receiver who lockup where I couldn't change any channels or view the guide and it would reboot. The next night when I turned to a game at game start it still had the background it shows before the game started and again send a refresh signal and went though this same thing over and over. I added a movie channel to my lineup and had issues with showing up my Dish Wally HD Receiver.

With an investigation after several calls with DISH Support it was determined that by going to the diagnostics screen that I had a issue with my Tuner because any changes that I made to my programming these changes would not take affect on the Wally HD Receiver. In other words that Wally HD Receiver was toast!

I too had reported MLB Extra Innings issue to DISH and they created a ticket for it and said that someone would investigate the issue. I too took notice that under MyDISH account under MLB Extra Innings always before it would show that I was subscribed and on auto-renew. Now it shows nothing and even after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so that I can see it in guest mode it too doesn't even list a price and option for purchase as does the now WNBA League Pass.

After my DISH Receiver was ruined I had to buy a new Wally HD Receiver. I took advantage an bought 2 HD Wally's and added them both to my account. I called back to remove the old box off of the account and was told it was linked to MLB Extra Innings and the advanced technical support team said there was a glitch with MLB Extra Innings and hope to have a resolution in a couple of days and I could call back in to then to remove the box. But both the 2 new Wally HD Receivers are activated on my account. I asked them what the problem was with MLB Extra Innings and how long it would be and I was told there was a glitch as I asked to specify what they meant and got no answer. I again went and checked the MyDISH account page under the MLB Extra Innings page and it still doesn't list me as subscribed and after logging out and deleting my User Name and Password so I could it see it as a guest mode and it still doesn't list the price and option for purchase as it does for the WNBA League Pass.

I am afraid to boot up these boxes and go through the activation screen process because of the issues with the MLB Extra Innings in fear it will do the same or mess up my boxes from being able to receive MLB Extra Inning because or any other programing because I was told that MLB Extra Innings wouldn't come in on those new box because it was activated with the Wally that is ruined and it needs removed first.

Now I have no DISH service going on a week and miss my MLB Extra Innings when the races are just heating up and now with two boxes activated I can't boot up because I am afraid it will mess them up and I will be out the $180.00 or so dollars I made in purchase on the receivers.

Is anyone else experiencing issues with their MLB Extra Innings and does anyone really know what this so called glitch actually is? I can't seem to get a clear answer from anybody and don't even know if it will even be fixed or anyone really understands it.

Now to my previous statement on how I was disappointed that MLB Extra Innings is actually MLB.TV in simulcast. When I had MLB Extra Innings before with DIRECTV in 2001-2004 and with DISH form 2016 and 2017. They would always show the commercials for every teams broadcast from their local market and all games would be authentic just as if you were watching in their home market. After I quit DISH I went to streaming for awhile and I done MLB.TV and I hated their features because of the no commercials, the delayed times of getting back after the commercial break, and not being able to listen to what studios had to say when they would cut into the studios, and always looking at the screen during commercial breaks with a screen that says commercial break in progress and a silhouette background of MLB Players doing baseball things and the their crazy commercial breaks sound. I was excited to go back to DISH thinking I escaped the horrors of MLB.TV. Well its actually the same thing. I compared them side by side and actually MLB.TV is ahead by just a few seconds. So actually MLB Extra Innings on Satellite is delayed from time period wise from actually watching MLB.TV which shows it is simulcasted. My question is when did this start? And is this legal? This isn't what I know MLB Extra Innings to be. I too had signed up for NHL Center Ice this past winter and thank goodness its authentic! They still have the commercials and its like watching it as you were in their home network and its the way it oughta be even if you only do get one feed of NHL Center Ice per team on DISH and don't know which feed it is every night.

Looking forward to your responses. So far happy with DISH but unhappy with this last week and the ruining of a Wally HD Receiver.

I hope I can be of some contribution here as well.

Sincerely,

RJ T.
From Illinois

Update on MLB Extra Innings as of 5:50 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

I am getting tired of not being able to watch any baseball games and having paid for MLB Extra Innings and not knowing what the reason is I called dish back at 1-800-333-3474. I guess after all of my calls my call was routed to the Advanced Technical Support Team. I had something happen that I never knew they could do and they gained access into my Wally Receiver. I was told settings look good and right now on the only channel that shows is the MLB1 Baltimore Orioles Channel. They are playing the at home against the Seattle Mariners right now. She was able to access to that channel which prompted a purchase a Rent option. That signaled a red flag to her right away. She escalated a ticket with photographs and info from my screen to the top tier advanced programing technical department and told me they received the ticket and are reviewing it now. They got back to her and said they would have information within 30 minutes. I either get the channels within 30 minutes or I am to call back and they will advance from there. Seems like maybe my persistence is paying off. I will keep you informed. Maybe we can all have a resolution to this shortly.

RJ T.
From Illinois

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RJT79

Yesterday at 7:38 PM

RJT79 said:
Update on MLB Extra Innings as of 5:50 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

I am getting tired of not being able to watch any baseball games and having paid for MLB Extra Innings and not knowing what the reason is I called dish back at 1-800-333-3474. I guess after all of my calls my call was routed to the Advanced Technical Support Team. I had something happen that I never knew they could do and they gained access into my Wally Receiver. I was told settings look good and right now on the only channel that shows is the MLB1 Baltimore Orioles Channel. They are playing the at home against the Seattle Mariners right now. She was able to access to that channel which prompted a purchase a Rent option. That signaled a red flag to her right away. She escalated a ticket with photographs and info from my screen to the top tier advanced programing technical department and told me they received the ticket and are reviewing it now. They got back to her and said they would have information within 30 minutes. I either get the channels within 30 minutes or I am to call back and they will advance from there. Seems like maybe my persistence is paying off. I will keep you informed. Maybe we can all have a resolution to this shortly.

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RJT79

Yesterday at 7:41 PM

RJT79 said:
Update on MLB Extra Innings as of 5:50 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

I am getting tired of not being able to watch any baseball games and having paid for MLB Extra Innings and not knowing what the reason is I called dish back at 1-800-333-3474. I guess after all of my calls my call was routed to the Advanced Technical Support Team. I had something happen that I never knew they could do and they gained access into my Wally Receiver. I was told settings look good and right now on the only channel that shows is the MLB1 Baltimore Orioles Channel. They are playing the at home against the Seattle Mariners right now. She was able to access to that channel which prompted a purchase a Rent option. That signaled a red flag to her right away. She escalated a ticket with photographs and info from my screen to the top tier advanced programing technical department and told me they received the ticket and are reviewing it now. They got back to her and said they would have information within 30 minutes. I either get the channels within 30 minutes or I am to call back and they will advance from there. Seems like maybe my persistence is paying off. I will keep you informed. Maybe we can all have a resolution to this shortly.

RJ T.
From Illinois

Update as of 6:40 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

Noting went through on my screen. However take a look at this

Dish TV

Manage your Dish TV account, programming, pay bills, and access your favorite channels with the MyDish app.

my.dish.com

They have the page back up but it shows I need to purchase. On phone on hold waiting to connect to get this thing activated.

Will post shortly with update.

RJ T.
From Illinois

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RJT79

Yesterday at 9:22 PM

RJT79 said:
Update as of 6:40 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

Noting went through on my screen. However take a look at this

Dish TV

Manage your Dish TV account, programming, pay bills, and access your favorite channels with the MyDish app.

my.dish.com

They have the page back up but it shows I need to purchase. On phone on hold waiting to connect to get this thing activated.

Will post shortly with update.

RJ T.
From Ill

RJT79 said:
Update as of 6:40 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026...

Noting went through on my screen. However take a look at this

Dish TV

Manage your Dish TV account, programming, pay bills, and access your favorite channels with the MyDish app.

my.dish.com

They have the page back up but it shows I need to purchase. On phone on hold waiting to connect to get this thing activated.

Will post shortly with update.

RJ T.
From Illinois

Final Update... As of 8:08 P.M. CDT June 10, 2026.

I now have MLB Extra Innings back! Look at the photo! (I did not include full image of the game due to copyright)

Let me just say it was rough! Very rough! And lets just say Charlie Ergen should be ashamed of his customer service team and how they handled this whole issue.

After multiple calls after my last post only to get the run around with answers like there are no refunds on MLB Extra Innings once the season starts, to they are working on it, to accessing my screen and sending multi hits to the box.

All I asked was one simple question remove the MLB Extra Innings which they confirmed I had and reauthorize free of charge. I was given a 1,000 reasons why this couldn't be done.

Well..........

I paid for it myself.... $120.00 current rate and it works!

I called back in to let them know what I done and what I thought of the customer service and told them I needed refunded. I was told they didn't do refunds....

Well again I called back and got someone who refunded the original payment of $150.00 back to my account. A $30 discount for all the hard trouble I went though.

It is now up to you all out there that have MLB Extra Innings to try to get them to do this but I am afraid you are going to have to take your own action and purchase again and beg for a refund or be out the $150.00 originally paid.

Persistence pays off. I don't give up very easily.

You can all go here below to make the purchase if you have any trouble.

Dish TV

Manage your Dish TV account, programming, pay bills, and access your favorite channels with the MyDish app.

my.dish.com

I hope it all works well for you! And best of luck to everyone who has it!

I will still be around on this forum. You all sound like a fine group of people! I hope I can contribute more.

Take care!

RJ T.
From Illinois

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply Yesterday at 7:55 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Top Of The World - The Carpenters

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King Of The World - Steely Dan

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iJustine

Yesterday at 6:33 PM · posted in iJustine

Surprising photo editing feature in iOS 27

Time for another AWESOME video from iJustine!

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fGLCGahxnA4

Direct YouTube Link - Surprising photo editing feature in iOS 27
The official iJustine Website's Website
Buy her book!

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tparker

Last reply Yesterday at 6:26 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

"Bonus View" Channel List

I was bewildered with all the new DISH TV "Bonus View" channels, so I put together a web page table with all the info I could find. It's at:

https://anythingpeaceful.org/dishtv/DISH_TV_Bonus_View_Channels.html

Here's a partial screenshot of the table, as sorted by Channel Name. (You can click on a column header to sort.)

If you have any corrections or suggestions, please post here.

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tparker

Jun 1, 2026

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navychop

Jun 1, 2026

Easy come, easy go- can't count on anything.

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tparker

Jun 3, 2026

2 Bonus View channels removed today:

My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

Thanks to Pat for the tip.

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tparker

Yesterday at 6:10 PM

One added, one removed. But I think it's really only a name change, with similar (or identical?) programming.

My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

Thanks to Pat for the alert.

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Jim5506

Yesterday at 6:26 PM

tparker said:
One added, one removed. But I think it's really only a name change, with similar (or identical?) programming.

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My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels

Thanks to Pat for the alert.

A dandilion by any other name.

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