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Recently got to try out a GeosatPro DSR200 from out friends at SatelliteAV. There are 2 models of the receiver, the 200 which is the base unit and the 1100 which implements a DVR function. Opened the box to find the receiver, the remote and a manual that is very well put together. SatelliteAV put it together so there is no translation issue. The remote kind of caught me off guard as it eerily resembles a Captiveworks remote I had. It is very well laid out and has bigger buttons.

I am doing the review in 2 parts since the receiver caters to 2 groups. The folks who want it just for Glorystar setups and the hobbyist. First part is the Glorystar setups. I hooked up my cable and powered on the unit. It asks for your language and then you have 3 options depending on setup
-Glorystar setup (97 & 101W)
-Adventist setup (101W)
-Hobbyist setup (all sats)

Since I had my dish pointed to 101W I said Adventist. It asked me for my time zone and that was it. The receiver automatically loads the Glorystar approved channels into the unit and sets the correct time. That's it. No loading channels you don't want. No looking up frequencies and scanning. Set it up and that's it. I then did a master reset which brought me back to the main setup. This time I selected "Glorystar" setup. Once again all the Glorystar approved channels were loaded into the receiver and the settings were also corrected to. It defaults to 22k on for 97W and 22k off for 101W. Since my setup is different I had to go into the menu and turn the 22k off for 97W which is rather easy to do. For the Glorystar and Adventist setups there are 4 default channels
Channel 1 has the Glorystar logo
Channel 2 is a message from Glorystar
Channel 3 shows the new channels added. This is a great feature for the Glorystar folks in my mind.
Channel 4 talks about finding an installer

The channels start at 100 and the radio channels are at 1000. There is no TV/radio option which is a good thing. Just go to channel 1000 and there is your radio channels.

One of the neat things is if there is a new software out there you don't need to download it from the computer and load it into the receiver. You select OTA and it checks for new software. If there is new software out there you can download it directly from the satellite. I did update the receiver with the newest software and when it was done the receiver reboots. Said I had "Glorystar" setup and it downloaded the channel list again. Now the receiver does load a couple of the news channels on 97W but if you want more than that, you can go into the menus and rescan a transponder or the whole satellite. Just a note that if you reset the receiver and select Glorystar it will only load the Glorystar approved channels. You would need to rescan the other channels in.

The channel list is thought out very well. Press a button and you have a few options. You can sort by a-z, z-a, or free to air only channels. You also have an option of having a "short list" of the channel guide. Normally when you bring up the channel list it fills the whole screen, you can press a button that shows "simple list" which shows 10 channel list in the corner. There is an option in the Glorystar or Adventist setup that allows you to set up a favorite list to show only the channels that have the language you want. So if you are like me and don't want any Spanish channels you can set up a favorite to show just the English channels. Other options are Spanish, Russian and Arabic.

Editing and deleting channels is a snap. You can rename channels, move them, or delete by channel, sat, or transponder. I like if you say "delete TP" it will delete all the channels on the TP. But lets say you want to keep one (a good example is Russia Today. Its on a TP with a bunch of Arabic channels) you change the setting to "delete CH" and undelete the channel. One button deletes all the channels you want deleted. If you don't want to use the remote, the channel list is ChannelMaster compatible. There is a USB port on the front of the receiver for easy download and upload of the channel list.

All and all for someone who wants a Glorystar setup or Adventist setup, this receiver is truly plug and play (as long as the dish is aimed properly). It downloads the channel list and can automatically update the software. If you are looking for a Glorystar setup for a family member or friend and they are not the most technically advanced, I highly recommend getting them this receiver. It is very easy to set up and if they goof up or screw up the receiver, they can do a factory reset to reload everything back to default.

Now the fun began. The receiver is made for Glorystar folks but how will it work for the "hobbyist" who wants more than that? Did a Master reset and selected "Hobbyist" where I was brought to the main menu. I went to setup the satellites and it asked for a password. One good thing is you can turn this option off (to ask for a password every time you go into the setup. The satellite list is in order from east to west except for 97W. it's the 1st one on the list. The settings and options are very easy to go through. No hidden menus to change settings. If you go to the transponder frequency you press one of the color coded buttons for easy access to the TP list. This is a great feature as most receivers I work with you have to exit out of the dish setup menu to get to the TP list. You can add, remove or edit TP's rather easily. The receiver supports both Diseqc 1.0 & Diseqc 1.1 for the hobbyist who has a 8x1 or larger diseqc switch.

So I set up the receiver for a couple sats I have setup. The TP list is pretty current but I decided to do a blind scan. The blind scan has numerous options
Freq step can be set to 2,4,6,8,10. The lower the steps the more thorough it is but the slower the blind scan will take
Symbol rate can be set for under 4000, 4-8000, above 8000 or all. I leave it as all
Polarity…self explanatory
You can change the start and end frequency. It lists the frequencies by IF so it shows 950-2150. This is a minor drawback as a standard LNB only sees 950-1450 so you would have to change this to 1450 every time you scan a KU LNB. SatelliteAV is aware of this and has assured me they are working to change it so the default is 950-1450.

I blind scanned a few satellites with the settings at 6MHz and was very impressed at the thoroughness of the scan along with the speed. Now I'll tell you this isn't as fast as my Coolsat but it's a lot more through. A blind scan on a normal satellite takes about 45 seconds to maybe a minute longer than a Cooslat but the Geosat picks up TP's that the Coolsat misses. I tried the infamous KFTL on 72W which is at a 1666 symbol rate. Coolsat even on detail misses it. Geosat picked it up every time I blind scanned. It seems like the blind scan is like a bloodhound. It finds the feeds other receivers miss. It picked up KTEL on 79W with the s/r of 2170 no problem. I blind scanned 103W which has the funky skew. My motorized isn't compensated for that so normally I grab 1 maybe 2 of the NBC feeds and the usual others like Pentagon. A scan on the Coolsat brought 2 TP's, Geosat had 9. A few days later I used this to blind scan the C-Band arc for an update to thelist and was very impressed. It found channels that I had never seen before and apparently had been there for a while. The threshold of the meter is very low. Many channels that read low signal the other receivers will pixelate. I found a few channels that the quality meter was low but the Geosat played it just fine. I did notice one item when blind scanning (or any type of scanning for that matter). If the channel does not have a name the GeoSat seems to take a while to log the channel. I know the Coolsat takes about 5-10 seconds to log these type of channels. The GeoSat takes about 30 seconds. So when you scan in 125W it does take a while since most of the channels do not have a name. It logs them as Un-named 02, 03 etc. Even though the receiver does not do 4:2:2 or HD when you lock on a HD channel the receiver actually tries to play the channel. You get part of the channel to show up (just partial and it looks black and white and scrambled). The receiver will work with Dolby digital (AC-3) audio. Just hook up your audio decoder or Sonic Voom and you can hear the audio from PBS and other channels.

I hooked the receiver up to my motorized setup to see how well it works with a motor. I mean what good is a receiver if you cant motorize it? Well I am very happy that it works fine on both USALS and Diseqc 1.2. It is bang on even after numerous scans across the arc. You can even hook up switches for multiple LNB's and still use the motor which is something not every receiver can say. The meter is a very nice one. IN the right hand side it shows the signal in blue and quality in green. What makes it different is it also shows a bar graph if the signal fluctuates. This is great if you are aiming a dish. There is a beeper on there so you know when you are locked on the signal. Don't worry if you don't want that you can turn the feature off. As noted above, the channel list options are very easy to work with if you want to move channels around, edit channel names and delete channels.
I did run into two issues and 2 quirks. The first is I had 99W C-Band scanned in and the receiver kept freezing up on various channels which required a hard reboot (switch off and on). There was no rhyme or reason as to why it was doing it as it was on various channels. I tried with a switch involved and no switch and kept getting issues. I finally did a master reset and that did fix some of it. I did talk with SatelliteAV and they were able to duplicate the issue and assured me they are working on fixing it. The second issue is once in a while the remote just stops working yet the receiver works fine. It seemed to do it after doing lots of blind scans or watching a channel for a very long time. I was watching a sporting event that went over 2+ hours and the remote did freeze up on that. SatelliteAv is aware of the known issue. They assured me that they are fixing it and would have a software update out within the next month.
The first quirk is when you blind scan a satellite for some reason it seems to default back to the 1st channel in the satellite list. So no matter which satellite I am on it goes back to channel 100 which for me is 72W. I did find a workaround. I hit "sat" which brings up the satellite list and select the sat I want (like 91W). Then it only puts those channels in the list. When I blind scan it will go back to the 1st channel on that satellite which in my case is the color bars. The second quirk is when you select blind scan there is no option to scan ALL or just FTA and when I scanned sometimes I got FTA only and sometimes I got ALL. When I scanned 97W it didn't log any scrambled channels so I had to do a satellite scan as ALL but on 105W it logged the scrambled New York Net mux (part is scrambled, part isn't) just fine.

Here is a list of the features directly from the SatelliteAV site
-Upgrade Software & Update Channel Database via Front Panel USB 2.0 Port
-Upgrade Software & Update Channel Database via Satellite OTA
-MPEG-II Digital & Fully DVB Compliant.
-C/KU band control for each antenna
-LNB Tone Switch 22KHz mode On/Off/Auto
-Multi-LNB controlled by DiSeqC 1.0, 1.1, 1.2
-Motor Control by DiSEqC 1.2 and USALS
-5,000 Channels Programmable
-Blind Scan with Upper / Lower Frequency Range Selection
-Universal Smart Card Reader Supporting IRDETO
-Picture In Graphic (PIG)
-Electronic Program Guide (EPG) for On Screen Channel Information
-10 Timer Events for Daily, Weekly, Once Channel Selection
-Multi-Language supported for Menu and OSD (English, Spanish, French)
-Zoom Function by 2x, 4x
-Parental Lock
-Closed Caption Support
-Glorystar Christian Karoke Lyric Support
-Dolby Digital Bitstream Out through S/PDIF
-CVBS Video & Audio Output via RCA
-Component Y/Pb/Pr Output via RCA
-S-Video Output
-7-Segment(4-digit) Type of Front Panel Display
-Glorystar Approved for OTA and EPG Features

Some of the reasons I love this receiver are the very thorough blind scan and the picture it puts out. As a feed hunter, I want to find all the feeds out there and not have a receiver that takes 10-15 minutes to scan a satellite. The picture through the component output is STUNNING! The S-Video/AV cables aren't too bad either ;) The freeze ups were a downside but assured they are working on it. It was just weird that the receiver would lock up on 99W but had no issues with KU. I blind scanned for about 2 hours and had no lockups on it. The fact that SatelliteAV/Geosat is working to fix the bugs makes it even better. I am very impressed with the GeoSat and now it has a home on the 2nd motorized setup I have.
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SatelliteAV
Thanks for catching this scanning issue Iceberg.

We will investigate.
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Brian
Did some more testing on the compel issue and it looks like ANY channel that is COMPEL encrypted it logs as a radio channel.
examples
91W has Horse Race TV (4096 H 3074)
87W has some horse track feeds that do the same thing

previously it would skip the channel. now its logging them as radio stations (all un-named)
M
Found a new glitch

in the list you have AMC9 C-Band (83W) with the right TP info for PA cable Network. But the LNB LO shows as 10750. If you change it to 5150 and save it when you go back in the menu it shows as 0.

I changed it to 5150, hit exit to "save" and when I went back in it shows 0. So I changed it to 5150 and did a blind scan. It showed something weird. It showed the IF frequency scanning and not the normal one. So it showed
-1250 H
-1256
-1262
etc

I ended up scanning PCN under AMC6 for the time being.
SatelliteAV
PM me about this as I see that the LO mistakenly set to 10750 and corrected for next channel list release.

Do not have same issues when modifying the LO to 5150.
M
of course now I cant duplicate it
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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White Noise - Jessie Baylin
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cpdretired
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Several Dish offers showed up today in my account. Once you choose one the rest are removed. Offers were Showtime, Starz, AMC and others.
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Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.
ewindowman
Lots of offers on the hopper account app . On the website there are only a few.
Almighty1
Lots of offers on the hopper account app . On the website there are only a few.
Never had time to use the Hopper 3 account app yet. I also have a Hopper Plus so it's not the same as the Hopper 3 standalone. Will try it when I have more time, need to beat the taxes extension filing deadline first as I am still working on entering the data into the tax software.
Almighty1
This is what I see when it comes to offers on My Account on the Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com:

AMC+ 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)
AMC+ Free for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)
AMC+ 1 month free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Cine y Entretenimie 50% off for 3 months

DOGTV 1 month free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

DISH Movie Pack 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)

DOGTV 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)
DOGTV 1 month free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Gallery First Month Free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Heartland Pack 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)

Mexico y Mas 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

MGM+ $0.00/Month not saying how long (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Multi-Sport Pack 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Netflix Standard with Ads, $7.99/month credit toward Netflix Standard with Ads ($.99) month with 24 month DISH commitment
(Only on My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Outdoor Pack 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Paramount+ with SHOWTIME 50% off for three months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)
Paramount+ with SHOWTIME 2 months free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Playboy TV 50% off for 6 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

Republica Dominicana 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

STARZ 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)
STARZ $1.99/month for 2 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and dish.com)

Sudamerica y Mas 50% off for 3 months (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)

UP Faith & Family 1 month free (My Account Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus)
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Just checked my account and it shows mgm+ at 8.00 per month, but that has red line drawn thru it and shows 0.00 per month. But it doesn't say how long this lasts,...... 1 month, 3 months, forever. I called customer service to get an answer, and they said nothing like that exists. Should I add the offer or not? Already paying them too much, but want to take advantage of something free.
look again mine says free for 1 month
Almighty1
look again mine says free for 1 month
Not for me, mines has no mention of how long aka the offer period and the Terms and conditions the $0.00 is good for. All I see is one can lose $5.00 if you decide to remove it before day 31 after you add it to the account.

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Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in Computers and Gadgets
I created this thread on the original Edgecutter Cutting Edge Forums site. It's simply a place for those to review the latest software available for those using Windows 10 and Windows 11. To date it has received 112,559 views. I have been asked by staff to continue this thread here.
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EarDemon
If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.
WhiteBeard
If it wasn't for what I want, I wouldn't need any of this.

Do I need a collection of handheld radios, scanners and speed enforcement countermeasures? Nope, but I want them. Very little, if any of the software used to interface with these devices is available on Linux.
To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything. ☹️
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To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything. ☹️
For niche use cases, yes I agree. Kali for ethical hacking and security testing, and running a Cacti server for network monitoring are the two things I have experience in. Plus thousands and thousands of other things, but for every day use I just can't see it. The owner of the GMRS repeater that I pay to access is changing the Tx DPL tones tomorrow, while Chirp is available on Linux, the software to program my MXT500 is not.

I run Fedora and Ubuntu in VMWare, honestly I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows. The cartoonish dock at the bottom of the screen reminds me of Apple products.
EarDemon
I have no OEM bloat, on CTO devices where I can access the drive, I order it with the smallest allowed drive and crack the device open throw the factory drive in the garbage and put in my own WD Black and install Windows from bootable media. For Windows bloat, I install Windows using the English - World option which limits preinstalled MS bloat.

Windows and Office features I wish to block, like CoPilot and Cortana, macro enabled Office files and others are blocked with GPOs.

Between keeping all software up to date, doing firmware updates, putting IoT devices on a separate VLAN, running Symantec Endpoint (say what you want about it, it's been good to me) and practicing safe hex, I'm vigilant but not paranoid about security.

With NVMe SSDs, my cold boot up time on all devices is under 30 secs as well. Fast boot disabled, BitLocker drive encryption enabled.

I have nothing against Linux, been paying with it on and off since 2004ish, it's just not the right solution for me.
HipKat
it's just not the right solution for me.
As I said above, and, FWIW, I run Win11 Pro and Arch on separate 250 GB NVME drives, using F8 to select which I boot to, with a 1TB SSD for storage, accessible to both OSs and a third formatted Nvme I want to use to learn Kali. It was much faster to setup Arch than it was to strip down Windows. Windows still takes much longer to boot.

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harshness
I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows.
What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI? By many accounts, it has been going downhill since Windows 7.

There are Linux desktops that offer Windows or Mac UIs, yet you don't hear much chatter about them outside of questions about when the creators might get sued.
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What is so fantabulous about the Windows UI?
Because it's what I prefer. I know I've said this a few times, I use Open Shell to give me the cascading start menu a la WIN 95 and NT4.0. The only reason I went from Windows Vista to 7 back in the day was because of Classic Shell. I cannot stand anything other than the OG start menu from 30+ years ago. I'm using ExplorerPatcher to give me Windows 10 UI elements of the taskbar and right click context menus.

If you could take a look at how I set up Windows 95, you'd find many similarities to how I use 11.
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EarDemon
I could probably use that as a starting point, but I don't like the full size icons. If you have to click on each folder that's also a no-go for me, it has to be cascading.

I used to have Peppermint Linux in a VM, that was about as close as I could get to recreating a Windows NT4.0 style of menu structure, but I could never get it to scale properly in VMWare on a 4K display and eventually gave up.

Whatever the boot up time it's fine with me. The longest part of my bootup is the HP SureStart BIOS integrity check. Once that is done, it's only a few more seconds. I haven't done this reg tweak yet since the reformat, but I switched the bootup animation to the Windows 10 style spinning circle of dots, and it's two and a half rotations. I can live with that.
harshness
Because it's what I prefer.
I hope you don't believe that makes it wonderful (especially when you're using workarounds for Microsoft's malfeasance).

I use LibreOffice as opposed to Microsoft office (even in Windows) because it's UI is like the Office of old, so I'm putting my money where my mouth is (in a manner of speaking). The ribbon was one of the worst ideas to come out Redmond.
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Last reply · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
Foxbat
Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. :D
WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱
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zipping right along here
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WTF… …What the Foxbat!😱
wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
Foxbat
wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you :biggrin
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Help, I'm a little confjused on the activation process.
I purchased the Joey 4 from Solid Signal and shipping box has Call 866 726-4282 to Avtivate new Receiver. That number is Solid Signals number.
I googled and that search said call Dish to activate. I assume that is correct unless this requires a 2 step process.
Please let me know.
Thanks
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jannah
All good called Dish and new Joey 4 is activated and working.
Old Joey 2 deactivated and no need to return. 🙂
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All good called Dish and new Joey 4 is activated and working.
Old Joey 2 deactivated and no need to return. 🙂
i bought mine straight from dish as it was only $ 100.00 bucks!!! had the protection plan they came out removed and deactivated the 4k joey and activated and installed the joey 4.
zcrayfish
Solid signal has provided the wrong number on their website to activate Dish boxes for years now.
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I don't know if things are different with Dish but when I first rejoined DirecTV a few years ago Solid Signal was able to create my account and activate the equipment I got from them on a self-install without a truck roll.
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Solid signal has provided the wrong number on their website to activate Dish boxes for years now.
1-800-333-3474. billing or tech support should be able to do it!!!
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Help, I'm a little confjused on the activation process.
I purchased the Joey 4 from Solid Signal and shipping box has Call 866 726-4282 to Avtivate new Receiver. That number is Solid Signals number.
I googled and that search said call Dish to activate. I assume that is correct unless this requires a 2 step process.
Please let me know.
Thanks
just call dish and iggy the number from solid signal!!
Foxbat
Supporting Founder Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.

At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
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Ronnie-
Meh. The 4Ks I have will do everything that these do that I need them to do.


Which that's most tech these days for anything released the last four to five years.


It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.
navychop
It's honestly a testament to how good the previous gen Apple TVs were and are.

Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
Foxbat
The only thing I can see that is compelling is the AV1 decoding done in the A19's hardware instead of the current ATV4K's processor.
navychop
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
KAB
KAB
Outside of gaming, would Joe Sixpack notice any difference?
Not a bit. IMO, Apple's are slow to boot up. Time is about the same with 1st gen and 3rd. Roku runs rings around them in that department. I only reason I stuck, is the Apple infrastructure, which has it's definite advantages. But $300 is a deal breaker. Later, Apple!
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Don't tell them that. They'll adopt planned obsolescence.
they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade.. :what. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
jamieh1
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum
The new curated multiview is now live.
While on many of the sports channels and non sports channels there is a multi view option button. It will pull up a side bar with many different multi view options.
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K
It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.
b4pjoe
It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.
But not on the only device they ship out right now which is the Gemini Air.
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It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.
How soon will it be available on Apple TV? Thanks
Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
AZ.
AZ.
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:
  • All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
    • Independent of record too! Bonus.
  • MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
  • I'm out of ideas.
Cons
  • Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
    • Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
  • Going to start resting players?
    • The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
    • Resting players could make games dumb.
    • Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
  • How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
Jimbo
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...
AZ.
AZ.
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...
Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....
Jimbo
Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....
Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...
Edit, Bama plays 4, Georgia plays 3, But Ole Miss plays 5 (didn't expect to see that)

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.
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Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.
Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?
Jimbo
Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?
Seeing theres very little activity in the MLB threads, it wouldn't matter if I posted that the Astros didn't make the Playoffs ...

Theres more NFL info in the Pub section than in the Sports/NFL thread.
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Jimbo
IF they go to 24 teams, and it looks like they will soon ....
Do we Really want Teams with 3 and 4 losses in the Playoffs ?
Is a 3-4 Loss team one thats able to win 4-5 more games against Top teams ?