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TNGTony
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
The CSRs are usually very friendly and I hate to get mad at them. But in my 13 years with Dish network I have yet to call where everything goes to plan the first time. Is it just the way things are or is ineptitude taught?

The latest episode was when I bought a 211k from the www.dishstore.net to replace an ancient 1000 receiver. Claude mailed it to me and everything was great. I installed the new receiver (hooked it up to the TV, the dish and plugged it in. After it got done with its initial DL, I called Dish to activate it and deactivate the old receiver.

The call was answered in seconds. The person I spoke to was very nice and took care of everything quickly. All is great, right?

Nope... Tonight when re-selecting that I get my bills by mail (I was one of the lucky ones selected to automatically be changed to paperless billing without my concent or knowledge until after the fact by a great VM---this is now three times I have to do this) I noticed that there was $15 + tax charge on my bill for a technician's visit!

I used the chat to get that removed (at least that is what the CSR said he would do. But this is the norm for Dish...at least for me. You have to call once to do something and again a second, third or fourth time to get the error from the previous CSR corrected.

Just thought I'd vent!

See ya
Tony
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tomcrown1
India strikes again. Dish the indian company
kstuart
India strikes again. Dish the indian company

My experience is that Indian CS Reps are brighter than US CS Reps.

In the US, being a CS rep is an unskilled job for people with few credentials.

In India, being a CS rep requires you to speak two languages (or more) and deal with technical issues for products you have never seen.

And Tony's problem is obviously in the billing software and not the fault of the CS rep. The rep does everything correctly and the software still does the wrong thing.

PS I have had the same sort of problems when dealing with "CEO" reps in Colorado. I say "such and such is going to happen, right ?" and get a reply back "Yes, that is what is going to happen" and then it does not happen.
brad1138
The turn over rate at the call centers is 3 months, meaning for the most part if you visit one today and again in 3 months, the entire staff will be new. If a CSR makes it for 5 months they are now "tech support". CSRs cause more problems than they solve. Maybe if they were paid a wage that didn't have them looking to quit as soon as they were hired, they would stay around and actually learn how to do their job properly.

Just today we found out that a tenant at one of our commercial apartment installs called E* with a problem, (saw the number in Sys info). They are supposed to contact the apartment manager, who will call us and we can be over in minutes. Not only were they not the account owner and not authorize to request a service call, but they called a residential CSR, not commercial (commercial and residential are 2 totally different departments at E*, residential CSRs aren't supposed to touch Comm. accts.). The CSR sent out a DNSC tech to our Commercial install. A lot of our Commercial installs are WAY over the head of your average DNSC tech (this one didn't happen to be) but all we need is some tech screwing around with our install. WHO pays for that if they screw it up and we need to fix it?

I feel your pain with CSRs, we deal with them everyday and they only seem to get dumber.

Brad
TNGTony
For the record the CSR I talked to was an American and seemed very knowledgeable. I will have to agree with kstuart that this was a computer programming error. It is just so frustrating.

Hell this weekend I am being slammed by all sorts of computer glitches from all sides. The fact that National City (my Bank and primary CC) is being folded into PNC Bank this weekend didn't help things. All the bill payments I had set up to be paid over the next few weeks (including Water, Electric, Gas, Garbage, Major CC, Mortgage and Property Tax) were paid on 2/19 so my bank account crashed and burned. I got all sorts of apologies from the CSRs at the bank, but I am still overdrawn on this account due to their error. BTW, I have had the same account # on my checking account for 30 years, but it is now in it's fourth bank. :) Thrift S&L was bought by Provident Bank which was sold to National City which was gobbled up by PNC. --- I wonder what the next ubber-bank that will buy out PNC

The Phone company had its glitch when I dropped my landline and de-bundled my wireless phone. They applied all my payments to the closed account so it had a credit balance and my wireless account was past due. When talking to the CSR I couldn't get it through her head I did not have a land line any longer, I only had a cell. I thought I was a character in "Mudd's Women" trying to explain a totally foreigh concept. I dropped my land line and no longer had to pay that bill, but wanted that amount that was improperly applied to the closed account to the past due account.

It's just been a perfect storm this February for me! :)
kstuart
Hell this weekend I am being slammed by all sorts of computer glitches from all sides.

We have long ago entered into a situation where human society is too complicated, period.

Most people do not get enough sleep, because it takes too much time to run their personal life, and there is not enough spare time. Then, due to lack of sleep, they make mistakes at work.

A perfect example is that on my wife's PC, a message popped up:

You have unused desktop icons.

And so F***-ing what ?

Whose idea was it that we should care about that, and spend even one second of our life reading that message ?

Today, I had 5 messages on my answering machine.

All of them were from robot calling machines, and all of them were wrong numbers.

The idea that it is legal for a company to automatically call everyone is insane.
mattb
Hell this weekend I am being slammed by all sorts of computer glitches from all sides. The fact that National City (my Bank and primary CC) is being folded into PNC Bank this weekend didn't help things. All the bill payments I had set up to be paid over the next few weeks (including Water, Electric, Gas, Garbage, Major CC, Mortgage and Property Tax) were paid on 2/19 so my bank account crashed and burned. I got all sorts of apologies from the CSRs at the bank, but I am still overdrawn on this account due to their error. BTW, I have had the same account # on my checking account for 30 years, but it is now in it's fourth bank. :) Thrift S&L was bought by Provident Bank which was sold to National City which was gobbled up by PNC. --- I wonder what the next ubber-bank that will buy out PNC

WOW.. You'd think PNC would do things right (I hear a lot about this because I live in Ohio myself) ... From what I hear arn't they giving former Nat City customers all new account #s?

Luckly (well not really) I have Chase which was Bank One and they seemed to have done things smoothly when they went from Bank One to Chase.
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I used the chat to get that removed (at least that is what the CSR said he would do. But this is the norm for Dish...at least for me. You have to call once to do something and again a second, third or fourth time to get the error from the previous CSR corrected.

Just thought I'd vent!

See ya
Tony
Yep, Couldn't agree more.
Makes you wonder sometimes if these CSR's are really fullfilling your request, or if they are just sitting there doing their nails or texting on their phone.:mad:
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And Tony's problem is obviously in the billing software and not the fault of the CS rep. The rep does everything correctly and the software still does the wrong thing.

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This is a Multi Billion dollar company, Billing software isn't a valid excuse. When ever I call Dish for any issue, that has to do with programming or billing, I always plan for making 2-3 calls to finally get done what I need done. Now how sad is that?:(
Ghpr13
The turn over rate at the call centers is 3 months, meaning for the most part if you visit one today and again in 3 months, the entire staff will be new. If a CSR makes it for 5 months they are now "tech support". CSRs cause more problems than they solve. Maybe if they were paid a wage that didn't have them looking to quit as soon as they were hired, they would stay around and actually learn how to do their job properly. ...
Brad

I've worked as a CSR for 2 companies. Another big problem with being a CSR is companies want you to handle phone calls like working a factory line job. They want volume not quality. At one place we had a red flashing sign that would show the number of calls waiting...when it stared getting to a 2 digit number, supervisors would walk around telling you to "speed it up". How do you "speed up" a person with a problem? And handle that problem correctly?
BTW: You think it bad when you have a problem with your Dish equipment and have to call CS, I worked for Aetna Insurance. Try making a older person calling about insurance coverage on their decease spouse "speed up" their call.
Ghpr13:eek:

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Monday 11/2 is a full slate for NBA League Pass as all 30 teams are playing and 14 out of 15 total games are on NBALP. Only one national TV game on Peacock/NBCSN (Thunder @ Cavs).

DirecTV is even having to use several MLB EI channels (from 745-748) and a NHL CI (770) channel to fit all of them in the guide close together. 5 games at 7:30 ET, 3 games at 8 ET, 2 games at 8:30 ET, 1 game at 9 ET, 3 games at 10 ET. Luckily NHL CI is light on Monday (3 games on CI).

DirecTV is providing both broadcast feeds for all League Pass games except Hornets, Magic, Bucks & Raptors that night. These are all teams that have local broadcasts via a OTA channel which is on spotbeams and have streaming deals (DTC) that are not exclusive DAZN teams which DirecTV just signed a deal with (à la Spurs, Grizzlies, Cavs, Pacers & T'Wolves). Its also very common that we don't get Raptors broadcast very often from TSN or Sportsnet Ontario on League Pass.

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The NHL Network alternate will be live on channel 215-1 with Red Wings @ Panthers for those blacked out of Golden Knights @ Bruins on the main feed.

The Thunder @ Cavaliers game will be on one of Peacock Game Pass channels that night for commercial customers, they'll also have the back to back U-Conn Women's and Men's Basketball. One of the part time feeds will also be in use for WWE Raw via Joe Hand promotions.
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Personally, I tend to be the type that drives a vehicle for a lot of years....do my own oil changes and other fluid changes. Just replaced the spark plugs and a couple coils. Youtube is great for things like this.

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For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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6:43p Central was dumped off the site, then when I got back on could not reply to post. Down for several minutes.
Yeah... that was me...

I did another security update and it required me to reboot the server.

I also did a patch for something else and accidently put two ;'s in the config file so when the server rebooted it wouldn't restart a service because of the extra ; in the config file.

And of course as I did it my step dad called me slowing me down in figuring it out.

That was a Scott mistake. Sorry about that.
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Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.
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Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.

Or better yet, innovate something "completely revolutionary!"
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Or better yet, innovate something "completely revolutionary!"
when was the last time they innovated something:rolleyes:
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when was the last time they innovated something:rolleyes:
I'd probably say when they came up with their M-series of processors with integrated memory. That allowed Apple to get away from the inefficient Intel CPUs that were limiting their notebook computers.
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Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Almighty1
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
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I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
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Starting a thread klang !

After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.

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Not in a hurry to watch it this time.
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Finished season 3 last night. Still one of my favorite shows.

Anyone else wonder if there might be something else going on with Callum? Seems to me he has too much access to Russian intelligence.
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One episode into season 4 that dropped today...

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Renewed for season 5.
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Finished 4 last night. Great stuff.

They do like to end each season with a Bang!