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Last reply Mar 19, 2010 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

722k Update

Is there a process to force the 722k receiver to take a software update?

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Dish VIP

Mar 12, 2010

I did research on this once and remember seeing that there also needs to be a period of inactivity on the VIP models. Don't remember how long, but I would give it a good hour, not 90 seconds.

lakebum431

Mar 13, 2010

Dish VIP said:
I did research on this once and remember seeing that there also needs to be a period of inactivity on the VIP models. Don't remember how long, but I would give it a good hour, not 90 seconds.

Sort of, but you are kinda confused. The inactivity has to do with current and future activity, not past activity. If there is a timer scheduled to fire in the next 30 mins the download will not start, but it has nothing to do with what has previously happened. Trust me, if the download doesn't start in the first 90 seconds (and you don't have any upcoming timers scheduled to fire), then your receiver is not currently targeted. There is no reason to wait an hour.

Dish VIP

Mar 14, 2010

lakebum431 said:
Sort of, but you are kinda confused. The inactivity has to do with current and future activity, not past activity. If there is a timer scheduled to fire in the next 30 mins the download will not start, but it has nothing to do with what has previously happened. Trust me, if the download doesn't start in the first 90 seconds (and you don't have any upcoming timers scheduled to fire), then your receiver is not currently targeted. There is no reason to wait an hour.

Note: The receiver may need to be left in Standby (plugged in with satellite feed and turned off) for a minimum of 20 minutes to further recover the download if interrupted at critical times. This "boot recovery" is a MINIMUM of 20 minutes, and could last 1 hour or more for some models. If a 721 with factory software was interrupted during this process at step 5, then the receiver cannot be recovered and will need to be replaced.

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I know this doesn't expain how to force a download on an already active receiver but it's what I read and thus my statement. Also I have had CS ask me to wait that long.

lakebum431

Mar 15, 2010

Dish VIP said:
Note: The receiver may need to be left in Standby (plugged in with satellite feed and turned off) for a minimum of 20 minutes to further recover the download if interrupted at critical times. This "boot recovery" is a MINIMUM of 20 minutes, and could last 1 hour or more for some models. If a 721 with factory software was interrupted during this process at step 5, then the receiver cannot be recovered and will need to be replaced.

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I know this doesn't expain how to force a download on an already active receiver but it's what I read and thus my statement. Also I have had CS ask me to wait that long.

I understand that at times people tell you to do things, but I promise you that what I said is 100% true. If it doesn't start almost immediately it isn't going to.

Jonhern

Mar 17, 2010

not sure if this was already fixed on the 722k, but I read on here that the problem I had on the 612 where the groups would be reset to no groups every night after it updated happened on the 722 as well. I just set up groups the other day on the 722k so don't know if it was doing this prior to the new 658 update, but in the last few days the groups settings in DVR have stayed the same and have not reset like it was on the 612.

But the ota bug is still there, which is the thing they really need to fix.

Elroy

Mar 17, 2010

L6.56 and L6.58 are both current. As was said earlier only certain receivers are being targeted for the newer software.

If your receiver needs to take a download here is how to make it happen:

Go to the point dish screen and make sure that you can lock onto a signal from either 77 on eastern arc or 119 on western arc. Then turn the power off on both tuners and wait for up to 15 minutes.

Dish VIP

Mar 19, 2010

lakebum431 said:
I understand that at times people tell you to do things, but I promise you that what I said is 100% true. If it doesn't start almost immediately it isn't going to.

I think I'll go with Dish Network's info, tyvm.

lakebum431

Mar 19, 2010

Haha, ok. Although they are being overly cautious.

whatchel1

Mar 19, 2010

what bug

Jonhern said:
not sure if this was already fixed on the 722k, but I read on here that the problem I had on the 612 where the groups would be reset to no groups every night after it updated happened on the 722 as well. I just set up groups the other day on the 722k so don't know if it was doing this prior to the new 658 update, but in the last few days the groups settings in DVR have stayed the same and have not reset like it was on the 612.

But the ota bug is still there, which is the thing they really need to fix.

What OTA bug U talking about?

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reubenray

Last reply 4 minutes ago · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Laptop Shutting Off When On Battery?

Lately my eight year old Dell laptop has been shutting off even when I have a full battery. I have had to keep it plugged up all the time to keep this from happening. Any idea what is causing this? I replaced the battery about three years ago.

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arlo

31 minutes ago

A recalibration might be needed. Even if it shows full, the individual cells may have become unbalaced. And the BMS chip in the battery reports false information to the pc.
Try this. Start it up in the bios/uefi and leave it there until the battery dies and it shuts off.
It might just keep running longer than in Windows. Or run for a short while and shut off.
If it's the first case. Probably just needs a balancing. If the latter, the pack might just be dead.
Not throwing stones but perhaps just a cheaply constructed battery with substandard cells. Could be.

Patience. Keep restarting it in bios/uefi until it won't fire up anymore.
Then plug the charger in and let it complete a full charge. And see what happens. If it's better.
Do the same thing one more time. Run it until it dies dead-dead. Then just let it charge, pc shut off.
When charged, it might be better. It might not be.

There are bench jigs that read the actual BMS and override it to let a tech manually monitor and charge the separate packs. They can also reset any "time bombs" in it that cause an otherwise good pack to show bad.
Maybe Santa will be good to me some year.

You might just need a new battery. Maybe the PC power management chip is going. A Dell common thing.
Leaving a laptop plugged in with a full battery is known to reduce the life. Asus for one recommends that you don't leave the charger plugged in all of the time even when shut down. And setting Windows to charge the battery to 85% instead of 100% increases life.
That's all I got.

dishstaller

4 minutes ago

arlo said:
That's all I got.

That was quite enough....I definitely learned something from your post. Thanks

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TRG

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Last reply 13 minutes ago · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Starlink Router question

I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

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b4pjoe

Saturday at 2:12 PM

TRG said:
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.

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HipKat

Saturday at 11:07 PM

TRG said:
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

They are not. Your best bet is to set up a third-party router, attached to the Starlink for your server, that you can get into, like a Linksys, etc

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Foxbat

Sunday at 12:44 AM

TRG said:
…it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

The Starlink V5 Install Kit I just got comes with the Mini Router. It is pretty limited in what it can do. For example, it can provide only one IP subnet at a time, no Guest Network, but it does support the pass-thru to a third-party Router. You can also split the Wi-Fi into separate 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz SSIDs to help some IoT devices that don't support 5 GHz bands to work.

The larger Starlink Router that still comes with the V4 Kit does support a Guest Network with separate IPv4 Subnet, but it's $120 from Starlink. And it still won't do DHCP Reservations.

harshness

Sunday at 11:46 AM

If you can restrict the DHCP address space to assign addresses to one end of the subnet (i.e. x.x.x.50+), you can manually assign the IP address on pretty much any operating system. This is a default behavior on several popular routers. As the Router Mini only supports 235 devices, I expect that's already done.

Another option is to use a router that supports PoE to power the antenna. This article discusses that option (under PoE Power heading):

Starlink V5 Is Here: What RVers Need to Know

Overview of the new Starlink V5 model along with comparison to the previous V4 model along with a recommended setup for mobile internet users.

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Foxbat

13 minutes ago

Now that I've had the v5 kit with the Mini Router, it's not as bad as I first thought. Yes, no DHCP reservations, but you can set up multiple SSIDs that have separate IPv4 subnets, and like the big brother, you can select from 192.168.x.0/24 or 10.x.0.0/16 (where "x" is 1-4).

You can also split a subnet and have different SSIDs for the 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz channels to handle some IoT devices. I haven't discovered what subnet the 2nd NIC on the router assigns, I'm guessing it's the first subnet.

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I think we could all use a laugh - Rodney Dangerfield on Carson

Good...simple humor. Enjoy

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Jimbo

Today at 12:37 AM

Not Rodney, but a laugh ...

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Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.

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At least 64 dead in Spanish passenger train collision

Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

At Least 64 Dead After Two High-Speed Trains Collide In Spain | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 11:24 AM

dishstaller said:
Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

At Least 64 Dead After Two High-Speed Trains Collide In Spain | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.

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Thought this article might be of interest to some of you who might travel via train.

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