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Last reply Apr 7, 2010 · posted in C-BAND Satellite Discussion

Nasa channel

A neighbor of mine has a c-band dish and would like to receive the nasa channel FTA. What dish does he need to be pointing at? Also, what type of receiver does he need?

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Mr Tony

Apr 5, 2010

NASA is at 87 degrees west. Named AMC3 or W3 for the old school guys

There are 3 active channels + a HD feed for the shuttles only

any DVB receiver will work. Some good brands out there are Pansat, Fortec, Geosat, Coolsat

What receiver does the neighbor have currently? Is the dish active?

Mr Tony

Apr 6, 2010

BJ
Dont take it as a slam. I'm just saying some of the guys who have had C-Band for a long time (or have a 4DTV) use the old names. The OP's neighbor might remember the sat names that way

For a while I still used a few of the old names like T5, T6, G4

skysurfer

Apr 7, 2010

Iceberg said:
NASA is at 87 degrees west. Named AMC3 or W3 for the old school guys

That would be Spacenet 3, Spacenet 3R then GE-3 before the rename to AMC-3.

man, I'm old!

B.J.

Apr 7, 2010

Iceberg said:
BJ
Dont take it as a slam. I'm just saying some of the guys who have had C-Band for a long time (or have a 4DTV) use the old names. The OP's neighbor might remember the sat names that way

For a while I still used a few of the old names like T5, T6, G4

No, I understand what you were getting at re using the "OLD" names. I still think of 125 as G5, and think of AMC11 as F3 and G15 as G1 (even though the switch from 3 deg to 2 deg confused the slots down there a bit), but what caused me to respond is that W3 was never the old name for that AMC3 slot. The W3 name for that slot was fabricated by GI, and only has meaning to the 4DTV community. Old-timers would remember that slot as S3.

I consider myself an oldtimer, and tend to associate current sats with the old names, but I never bought into the 4DTV fad, so I don't associate anything with their fake names. Actually, the W3 instead of S3 one isn't that bad. My biggest complaint with respect to the 4DTVs fake names relates to the 121 and 129 slots. A few years ago, I got into a discussion with some 4DTVers on another forum about some channels that they said were on T7. Now to me, T7=IA7=G27=129 slot. To them, T7=G13=121 slot?!?!?!? Took me a long time to figure out what transponders they were referring to. I can understand using an unused letter like W for a newer sat like the AMC sats, but using the legitimate designation of an existing sat for another sat, and then renaming the sat whose designation they stole, THEN expecting the rest of the sat world to know which sat they're talking about??? I have seen 4DTV sites which list T7 as being both 129 and 121, but at the time, the official GI web page listed it at 121. I don't know what they call T7 now.
Anyway, that's why I get grumpy when the discussion comes around to 4DTV names. At least now that G27 is on the move (now at 135.7) , I won't have to worry about that one anymore.

Mr Tony

Apr 7, 2010

skysurfer said:
That would be Spacenet 3, Spacenet 3R then GE-3 before the rename to AMC-3.

man, I'm old!

I thought the old AMC names were W and before that GE?

I know my old Pansat 2100 had names like GE3 and GE4 in the sat list

B.J.

Apr 7, 2010

Iceberg said:
I thought the old AMC names were W and before that GE?

I know my old Pansat 2100 had names like GE3 and GE4 in the sat list

Yes, AMC-1 thru at least 4 or 5 were previously GE sats. Before that, the AMC3 slot was Spacenet, however. I don't think there have been any W (Westar) sats since around 1990. When I started out, there were 2 or 3 Westar sats. I think W4 was my favorite, because it had a bunch of SCPC stuff on it, if I remember right.

My http://www.eskerridge.com/bj/sat/tvrosat2.html page tries to show where the sats were, although there are some errors on it, plus, I didn't differentiate between sats like S3 and S3R, etc. But it's close to being accurate. The years thru 1997 or so are based on the old Westsat charts. From 1998 on, it's based on Lyngsat and old NASA keps I kept.

But I don't see any evidence that the AMC3 slot was EVER a W sat, except at GI/Motorola.

B.J.

Apr 7, 2010

skysurfer said:
That would be Spacenet 3, Spacenet 3R then GE-3 before the rename to AMC-3.

man, I'm old!

This one got me really doing some research. My list that I posted a link to above only had the sat as S3, not S3R, although I knew that Lyngsat had been calling it S3R before it was retired. So I decided to go back and check to see when it actually changed from being S3 to S3r. I looked at Lyngsat listings back to 1998, and they always called it S3R, while my old Westsat charts always listed it as S3 all the way through to 1998, when my subscription stopped. I looked in the Space-Track archive, and they don't even list a Spacenet-3 at all, which would indicate that it never made it to orbit.
So I went back to an old 1987 book I have, Mark Long, World Satellite Almanac, and it had the answer.
Apparently Spacenet 3 never made it to orbit. The 3rd stage failed, and the launch team destroyed the sat during the launch. I'm not sure why the Westsat charts called the sat S3 instead of the correct S3R, because they used the "R" term for other replacement sats.

Also, I've made a couple changes to another chart I posted a while back, ie:
http://www.eskerridge.com/bj/sat/tvrosat4.htm
When I first posted this, there was some question about G28 having ben temporarily called G27. I had that in there because the federal web page showed that, even though I was pretty sure it was wrong. I've done lots of googling, and can't find any indication that this ever happened, so Space-Track must be wrong. I took that out. Also deleted G27, since it's moving now. But this page shows names that the current sats once had before their current names. The only issue, is that some sats were given names before they were launched, and then changed names before they were launched. This was true for a few of the AMC sats, ie several were already in orbit as GE sats, then changed to AMC, while some others were named GE while still on the ground, but had their names changed before launch. The federal web page had the pre-launch GE name in the database, so I have these sats also listed as having been GE sats. The best I can figure is that GE-1 thru GE-8 were in orbit as GE sats, but GE-10 thru GE-12 were GE sats on the ground, but AMC sats upon launch.

Another thing I ran across, again relating to AMC3, and the historical name for the slot, is that the SES company used to be SES Americom, which used to be GE Americom, which used to be RCA Americom....
Well GE Americom used to own not only the GE sats that became the AMC sats, but GE Americom also used to own Spacenet 3, and also S1, S2 and S4 (and also the Satcom C sats). Before that, the Spacenet sats were owned by GTE, so S1 and S2 were originally known as GTE Spacenet sats.
SO, since GE Americom owned both S3R at 87 as well as it's replacement, GE3/AMC3, it seems even more logical that AMC3's slot should be called S3, not W3. The Westar company that launched W1 thru W5 sold out to Hughes, which owned the Galaxy sats.

Anyway, probably not of interest to anyone, but I never realized there had been so many ownership changes of these sats. I had a good time researching all this, as back when I was tuning these sats in, I had no idea of who owned the sats.

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MorCowbell

Last reply 48 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Saved OTA list on Dish can't be appended

I have Dish with Hopper3. I choose to get local channels OTA and had a "guide list" established at my previous home. Having moved a few miles away, I wanted to update the list by appending a couple new stations via a rescan. As many would know, some stations come in with the UHF/VHF antenna aimed in one direction, while others come in better with a different direction.

Unfortunately, when a scan is done (bringing in 25-30 stations for that particular antenna aim), the dialog screen does not present the established guide list; it presents an empty field to the right that the scanned stations may be selected one by one and added to the empty guide. But because of antenna aim, some stations originally saved are missing, and would have to be retrieved with a different antenna aim. But as I explain, if a 2nd scan is done with a different antenna aim, the stations saved from the first scan are lost.

It troubles me that Dish didn't develop software that would allow a user to simply append only 1 or 2 channels to the established list.

Any thought on this? Has anyone experienced this or heard of this from others?

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dishstaller

Tuesday at 9:42 PM

I could very well be wrong....it has been a LOT of years but back when I had a 722K it seemed like when you went back to the scan screen that you could just scan again and it would ADD those channels to the previous list or you could delete the previous results and only add the channels from the new scan.

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MorCowbell

Yesterday at 10:11 AM

Methinks you are wrong, Dishstaller - at least for what I see now..
I so wish that functionality was available ...

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n0qcu

Yesterday at 10:41 AM

dishstaller said:
I could very well be wrong....it has been a LOT of years but back when I had a 722K it seemed like when you went back to the scan screen that you could just scan again and it would ADD those channels to the previous list or you could delete the previous results and only add the channels from the new scan.

I am not sure about that but I do know that you could manually add additional channels just by entering the actual RF channel number and the older receivers would add the virtual channels to your list

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 11:11 AM

n0qcu said:
I am not sure about that but I do know that you could manually add additional channels just by entering the actual RF channel number and the older receivers would add the virtual channels to your list

Like I said.....that has been many years ago. Swapped my 722K for a Hopper in 2012.

It does seem like I remember having to delete the existing channels when we did a rescan. Back then our local stations KEPT monkeying around with things and it was non-stop complaints from customers about their channels not coming in. Got so bad that I stopped selling OR installing OTAs....something I had been doing since 1984 so you know it HAD to be pretty bad.

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MorCowbell

48 minutes ago

You made one of my points for me with this comment, Dishstaller:

"... local stations KEPT monkeying around with things and it was non-stop complaints from customers about their channels not coming in ..."

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NFL 2026-2027 Season

Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.

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Tuesday at 4:27 PM

Balls
Bears. Took care of the elite Seahawks defense in a great performance.
NFC North. The entire division is 2 games above .500
Lions. Finally handed an L to that weird Minnesota team. Good vibes for Jack Campbell.
Pitt. Took the lead of the division convincingly.
Bengals vs Titans game. Fireworks game. Not sure it was a well-played game, but it sure was fun. JoeyB with 6 scores... and 4 turnovers.
Denver. They keep winning, man. Payton is a baller of a coach.
Packers. Thorough beatdown of the hard-to-read Panthers.
Jags. Demolished the hapless Colts.
Rams. The Super team finally wins back-to-back games.

Goats
Vikings. Took their first L. I know their D is insane, but their offense is setting back football to the 1950's.
Cowboys. Lost a 2-score lead vs. the Gardner Minshew-led Cards... at home. Embarrassing.
Browns. Playing for the division lead by scoring 6 points.
Bucs vs Falcons game. Setting modern football back to the ice age. Honorable mention to Tua Penix err ... Michael Tagov .... well, you know what I mean.
Bengals fans acting like Burrow just won the MVP after his performance. I get it. 6 scores is awesome. But. He also turned the ball over 4 times and required overtime to beat the 1-win Titans. So spare me the parade.
Chiefs. Not because they lost. It was a close game decided on the last play vs. a divisional rival on the road. That's always rough. But because of their whining over the CLEAR flag they got on the would-be winning play. They are used to getting the calls, and when they don't, they complain. Honorable mention to Mahomes for this quote: "I mean, at the end of the day, you have to go with whatever is called, but a lot of times in those big moments, the little stuff doesn't get called like that"... so you admit it was a penalty?? Just shut up, man.
Colts. They began the fire sale earlier in the week, and it showed. This team is cooked; Daniel Jones should go to the bench, and Steichen will be fired pretty soon.
Chargers. Wow. That's all I got.
Miami. For having the Pats sort of on the ropes and letting them go.
Eagles. Another team that should consider selling some assets. They are going nowhere.

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Howard Simmons

Yesterday at 11:24 AM

HipKat said:
Balls
Bears. Took care of the elite Seahawks defense in a great performance.
NFC North. The entire division is 2 games above .500
Lions. Finally handed an L to that weird Minnesota team. Good vibes for Jack Campbell.
Pitt. Took the lead of the division convincingly.
Bengals vs Titans game. Fireworks game. Not sure it was a well-played game, but it sure was fun. JoeyB with 6 scores... and 4 turnovers.
Denver. They keep winning, man. Payton is a baller of a coach.
Packers. Thorough beatdown of the hard-to-read Panthers.
Jags. Demolished the hapless Colts.
Rams. The Super team finally wins back-to-back games.

Goats
Vikings. Took their first L. I know their D is insane, but their offense is setting back football to the 1950's.
Cowboys. Lost a 2-score lead vs. the Gardner Minshew-led Cards... at home. Embarrassing.
Browns. Playing for the division lead by scoring 6 points.
Bucs vs Falcons game. Setting modern football back to the ice age. Honorable mention to Tua Penix err ... Michael Tagov .... well, you know what I mean.
Bengals fans acting like Burrow just won the MVP after his performance. I get it. 6 scores is awesome. But. He also turned the ball over 4 times and required overtime to beat the 1-win Titans. So spare me the parade.
Chiefs. Not because they lost. It was a close game decided on the last play vs. a divisional rival on the road. That's always rough. But because of their whining over the CLEAR flag they got on the would-be winning play. They are used to getting the calls, and when they don't, they complain. Honorable mention to Mahomes for this quote: "I mean, at the end of the day, you have to go with whatever is called, but a lot of times in those big moments, the little stuff doesn't get called like that"... so you admit it was a penalty?? Just shut up, man.
Colts. They began the fire sale earlier in the week, and it showed. This team is cooked; Daniel Jones should go to the bench, and Steichen will be fired pretty soon.
Chargers. Wow. That's all I got.
Miami. For having the Pats sort of on the ropes and letting them go.
Eagles. Another team that should consider selling some assets. They are going nowhere.

Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.

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meStevo

Yesterday at 12:14 PM

Just the same vilification as players like Brady experienced, a product of their success and largely overblown (just like them 'getting all the calls').

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Yespage

Yesterday at 1:31 PM

Howard Simmons said:
Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.

Well you see him more because he is incredibly talented. And yes, typically players try to spin things being in their favor. This isn't cricket where sportsmanship (except in Australia) is expected.

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HipKat

Yesterday at 8:13 PM

Howard Simmons said:
Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.

He wants to be Brady

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HipKat

Yesterday at 8:14 PM

meStevo said:
Just the same vilification as players like Brady experienced, a product of their success and largely overblown (just like them 'getting all the calls').

The only people who deny what Brady got from the officials are Brady fans

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gms49ers

52 minutes ago

The NFL, for some time, has protected the marquee quarterbacks. Brady, Mahomes, Allen, Burrow - they all get the calls.
The lower tier QBs don't seem to get the same benefit. For instance, some of the hits that Darnold took from Chicago on Monday night would have been a flag frenzy if any of the marquee QBs were hit like that. And I am not in any way a fan of anything Seahawks related. I am a fan of balanced officiating - and that hasn't been the case for a while.

My team is not immune to this - Fred Warner laid some vicious hits in the Commanders game that I thought should have been flagged - one was, but they picked it up.

Not a good look on NFL officials.

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Monday at 12:22 PM

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SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

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Monday at 1:25 PM

nelson61 said:
Washington Post

SpaceX has held talks with Boost's parent company EchoStar in recent months about launching its own signature wireless service through a deal with the company, according to two people familiar with the negotiations.
Musk, the SpaceX CEO, has discussed the deal personally, meeting with EchoStar chairman Charlie Ergen last month, according to the people. The potential deal may result in SpaceX acquiring Boost Mobile or SpaceX gaining access to its network, which it leases from AT&T and T-Mobile US, the people said.
Access to those lease agreements would be a coup for SpaceX. The back door would allow Musk to make a play for a U.S. wireless market that equity research firm MoffettNathanson estimates is worth $235 billion. But the proposed service may need consent from those carriers for the service to actually launch, the people said.

Can't remember where or who I saw predict this.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

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Bruce

Tuesday at 10:17 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
It wouldn't surprise me to see Elon soon own all of DISH / Echostar in the future.

Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.

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Scott Greczkowski

Tuesday at 10:22 AM

Bruce said:
Again, why would Musk want a TV Service, specially one that is losing over a million subscribers a year.

Phone service…maybe, but not TV.

I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.

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Bruce

Tuesday at 11:30 AM

Scott Greczkowski said:
I know he wants TV. He wants to deliver EVERYTHING to EVERYWHERE.

Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.

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Nebugeater

Today at 9:12 AM

Bruce said:
Again, if so, why would he want Dish/Sling of all the providers?

He could deliver anything without actually owning, for example, watching the Lions game in my Tesla Y on it's screen via the YT app, while on the way to my future in-laws on Sunday.

Just a guess on my part but there may be some value to aquring to get all the retransmision agreements that are in place even though at some point they need to be renewed

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