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Thinking about the switch

I've been a Dish Customer for a few years on the old HD only package that is no longer offered. The package is the best deal around, but I want to add a second receiver and they won't let me do it without buying one outright as my package is no longer a qualifying package. That coupled with the current D* deal has me thinking about switching. I've seen a few mentions on here about the new HR24 that is coming out. If I'm thinking about switching, should I wait for the new box to be released, or is there not much difference between it and the current model. I know all about the E* equipment, but nothing about the boxes offered by D*. Thanks for your help.
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sundude90
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Stay with Dish. I switched to Dish & it's actually cheaper per month when all the promotions run out.
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sundude90 said:
Stay with Dish. I switched to Dish & it's actually cheaper per month when all the promotions run out.
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Not necessarily true. I want two HD DVRs and a package that includes Vs. That means I have to subscribe to the America's 250 on Dish which is $62.99 + $10 HD + $6 DVR + $10 additional box = $88.99. On DirecTv, the Choice Xtra is $63.99 + $10 HD + $7 DVR + $5 additional box = $85.99. With the promotions that they are running, I save a huge amount over the next 12 months and a decent amount for the 12 months after that. When that all ends, I'll be out of contract and can re-evaluate my provider. Plus, I like the HD channels that D* that E* doesn't better than the ones that E* has that D* doesn't. Seems like a no-brainer to me now that I've looked into it.
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gampp said:
Not necessarily true. I want two HD DVRs and a package that includes Vs. That means I have to subscribe to the America's 250 on Dish which is $62.99 + $10 HD + $6 DVR + $10 additional box = $88.99. On DirecTv, the Choice Xtra is $63.99 + $10 HD + $7 DVR + $5 additional box = $85.99.
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Well to be fair Choice Ultimate is more like Top 250, At $68.99 ,and HD Platinum that E* charges only $10 for, D* would cost you an Addtional $4.99 for their HD extra pack. And you still would end up with far less HD channels.

So All in All E* is the better Value over D* when your talking about 3 rooms or less of HD DVR service .
This has been debated and Proven over and over.
D* is a higher priced service to the average customer.
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Having a great "Directv Moment" right now, Catching Tigers/Padres World series highlights on MLB Network I would have not been able to see this, if I were with Dish!
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Hemi 6.1 said:
Well to be fair Choice Ultimate is more like Top 250, At $68.99 ,and HD Platinum that E* charges only $10 for, D* would cost you an Addtional $4.99 for their HD extra pack. And you still would end up with far less HD channels.

So All in All E* is the better Value over D* when your talking about 3 rooms or less of HD DVR service .
This has been debated and Proven over and over.
D* is a higher priced service to the average customer.
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Do you have a link to one of the DEBATES?

What does D* & E* stand for? (My guess is D!SH & D!RECT)

I'm gonna fire TWC and get Satellite, I have 3 HD setups in our house, one with a HD-DVR, we subscribe to just about everything they have to offer, Who between the satellite companies offer the best quality/quantity HD, DVR, & Satisfaction?

I figured I'd post in this thread so as not to clutter the site with redundant threads.

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Hemi 6.1 said:
Well to be fair Choice Ultimate is more like Top 250, At $68.99 ,and HD Platinum that E* charges only $10 for, D* would cost you an Addtional $4.99 for their HD extra pack. And you still would end up with far less HD channels.

So All in All E* is the better Value over D* when your talking about 3 rooms or less of HD DVR service .
This has been debated and Proven over and over.
D* is a higher priced service to the average customer.
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There are other factors than price involved. Dish has better hardware, but DirecTV has better picture quality due to almost double the bitrate with the same compression technology and they do 1080i at its full 1920x1080 resolution. Dish reduces the resolution to 1440x1080i and you can really tell it on a larger 1080p television.

If you care about picture quality then you will probably choose DirecTV. Plus, until someone sits down and compares the prices and channels they want, no one can state which company has the better deal for a particular person. I quite enjoy having a guarantee that my sports will be on in HD. Multiroom viewing and no outrageous receiver fees are other pluses to DirecTV. Also, Dish's On Demand service is abysmal. I have sided with D* after having used both services, with Dish being the most recent.

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Do you have a link to one of the DEBATES?

What does D* & E* stand for? (My guess is D!SH & D!RECT)

I'm gonna fire TWC and get Satellite, I have 3 HD setups in our house, one with a HD-DVR, we subscribe to just about everything they have to offer, Who between the satellite companies offer the best quality/quantity HD, DVR, & Satisfaction?

I figured I'd post in this thread so as not to clutter the site with redundant threads.

LQQK
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DirecTV has better HD quality and Dish has more quantity and a better performing DVR. Satisfaction is up to the user. I was not satisfied with the picture quality on Dish or the way they handled their sports channels in HD. I also got sick of having no MLB Network and no hope for either that or ESPNU HD. DirecTV's HD channel for ESPNU is supposedly due on Wednesday. Even if it isn't out on Wednesday, it is coming, and that is more than I can say for Dish. I attend the University of Tennessee, and watching college sports is important to me. I'd prefer to not watch on the Dish Network Youtube quality version of ESPNU in SD.

I cannot, in good faith, recommend Dish. Some people are happy with Dish and you may be too, but it will take someone else if you want to be convinced to use it. It may suit your needs perfectly. Only you will really know. For the record. D* = DirecTV and E* = Dish Network. The E is for Echostar, which Dish was spun off from.
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LQQK said:
Do you have a link to one of the DEBATES?

What does D* & E* stand for? (My guess is D!SH & D!RECT)

I'm gonna fire TWC and get Satellite, I have 3 HD setups in our house, one with a HD-DVR, we subscribe to just about everything they have to offer, Who between the satellite companies offer the best quality/quantity HD, DVR, & Satisfaction?

I figured I'd post in this thread so as not to clutter the site with redundant threads.

LQQK
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Imo, the question that I'd ask before making a decision is, what kind of programming do you (or family members) prefer? If you're wanting the maximum sports coverage, there's no question that DTV is the way to go.

If you're primarily interested in the most movie channels, from what I've read here, Dish seems to be the leader in that category. However, as you may be aware, DTV recently launched a new bird that's about to go online which will add more movie channels and also add more of the "national" channels (ie, Travel Network, WGN HD, etc) into DTV's programming choices. I'd recommend waiting another month or so and see how DTV's new sattelite expands their channel choices.

As primarily a sports fan, I can tell you that there's no choice but DTV in that genre. They have MLB EI, Sunday Ticket, and more overall sports coverage than Dish. That's why I've been with DTV since '99 and it's also why I've never considered Dish as my provider choice.
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Imo, the question that I'd ask before making a decision is, what kind of programming do you (or family members) prefer? If you're wanting the maximum sports coverage, there's no question that DTV is the way to go.

If you're primarily interested in the most movie channels, from what I've read here, Dish seems to be the leader in that category. However, as you may be aware, DTV recently launched a new bird that's about to go online which will add more movie channels and also add more of the "national" channels (ie, Travel Network, WGN HD, etc) into DTV's programming choices. I'd recommend waiting another month or so and see how DTV's new sattelite expands their channel choices.

As primarily a sports fan, I can tell you that there's no choice but DTV in that genre. They have MLB EI, Sunday Ticket, and more overall sports coverage than Dish. That's why I've been with DTV since '99 and it's also why I've never considered Dish as my provider choice.
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You hit the proverbial nail on the head. I start with programming, because if the provider doesn't have what I want to watch, all of the other drawing points are moot. For me, it's Directv because I am a Yankee fan. Directv has the YES network, Dish doesn't. End of story, for me anyway. YMMV.
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Tom Speer
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DIRECTV Cutting Edge Non Disclosure Agreement

In order to participate in any Cutting Edge testing, you must sign a Non Disclosure Agreement (NDA). Attached are a .docx (Microsoft Word) and PDF version of the latest DirecTV NDA. I found it easiest to complete the .docx version then paste a photo or scan image of my signature, cropped closely to just the signature into it as a picture. Then set Word to wrap text around the picture so that the picture follows the text "Signature".

People who have better PDF tools than I do may prefer that version.

When you apply for any Cutting Edge testing, you will be told how to send the signed copy.
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Any NDA you have signed before is still valid for the testing you have been and hopefull still are doing. The new NDA forms are ror new CE testers and new categories of CE testing. They have been placed here so that people who volunteer for any CE testing have access to them.
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Tom Speer said:
Any NDA you have signed before is still valid for the testing you have been and hopefull still are doing. The new NDA forms are ror new CE testers and new categories of CE testing. They have been placed here so that people who volunteer for any CE testing have access to them.
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I'm still doing the testing.
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Artemis III

Time for another AWESOME video from the TWIT Network!


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Direct YouTube Link - Artemis III
TWIT's Website
TWIT Live Feed
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DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 10/21/2026

The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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660 CAVLIERS, 668 TWOLVES and 680 SPURS are now available
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WPLG Miami is testing on the stream server again
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660 CAVLIERS, 668 TWOLVES and 680 SPURS are now available
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Still with Choice package? My stepdad says when the game started he got black screen and something to do with not the right package.
He had the Twins the last 2 years and I saw the Wild screen on 668-1 when I was there a few weeks ago.
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There were some technical issues during the pregame, where 668 was showing the Pacers feed instead of the Timberwolves feed until a few minutes before the game.

On the stream API it looks like some areas need the Sports Pack, what's his zip code?
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KyL416 said:
There were some technical issues during the pregame, where 668 was showing the Pacers feed instead of the Timberwolves feed until a few minutes before the game.

On the stream API it looks like some areas need the Sports Pack, what's his zip code?
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55379
It's Shakopee (suburb of Minneapolis and considered part of the Twin Cities). They have the satellite version, not streaming
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The BLUES, BLUJCKTS, HURCANES and WILD channels are now active and no longer pointing to the TV Promise slate
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Bobby
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4K Events Discussion Thread

This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.
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MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.
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Bobby said:
MLB, Brewers at Dodgers, Thursday 10-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 148-02.
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CFB, Notre Dame at BYU, Saturday 10-27, 4:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
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CFB, Ohio State at Indiana, Saturday 10-17, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona State at Texas Tech, Saturday 10-17, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.🙁

I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.

edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.
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Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.🙁

I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.

edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.
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As I recall you have the Flex package. Do you sub to multisport? -02 is FS1 and -03 is ESPN. -01 is Fox so you would get that if you sub to locals.
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As I recall you have the Flex package. Do you sub to multisport? -02 is FS1 and -03 is ESPN. -01 is Fox so you would get that if you sub to locals.
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As an edit, you need to sub to the National Action Pack at $12 a month to receive those channels.
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Which is what is interesting, I see the 4KFox channel on 148-01 but we're not subscribed to our Locals. So why it's coming in is puzzling. I thought that maybe it was a perk for Dish subscribers for the MLB Postseason.

I set a Timer for the Indiana - Ohio State game on Saturday. I'll take advantage of it while I can.
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I set a Timer for the Indiana - Ohio State game on Saturday. I'll take advantage of it while I can.
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Even though it didn't work out for the Hoosiers, this event recorded and I was able to watch it in full 4K HDR.👍🏻
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MLB, Rays at Brewers, Friday 10-23, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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Timer is set to Record the Series. Thanks, Bobby!
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No NASCAR in 4K on Sunday? Bummer...
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Scott Greczkowski
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Let Her In - Vince Gill
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dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

You can't even trust the cost per ounce info in grocery stores anymore

I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.


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dishstaller said:
Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.
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You are paying for the whole thing
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Juan said:
You are paying for the whole thing
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Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.
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telstar_1 said:
Well, the bag can't weigh that much, right? But by law food product packaging must display the actual net weight of the product, i.e., the contents of the container, so by any logic, if not law, a store's stated per-ounce cost should reflect that figure. But since there's not any law regulating shelf statements, a store can say whatever it wants without violating any rules. So I guess the answer is more consumer legislation. Or simply caveat emptor.
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But a box can weigh more than an ounce..maybe 2...a can might weigh 5 ounces..a bag...not much
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Juan said:
.a bag...not much
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Well, according to the price per ounce on that first bag of coffee he mentions, that would mean the bag weighed over 6 ounces. That bag does NOT weigh 6 ounces. According to Google, an empty bag weighs half an ounce.
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Juan
dishstaller said:
Well, according to the price per ounce on that first bag of coffee he mentions, that would mean the bag weighed over 6 ounces. That bag does NOT weigh 6 ounces. According to Google, an empty bag weighs half an ounce.
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You need to weigh the actual bag...a deli bag weighs less than that but a thick coffee bag is gonna weigh around an ounce...an empty tin can has some weight
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Juan said:
You need to weigh the actual bag...a deli bag weighs less than that but a thick coffee bag is gonna weigh around an ounce...an empty tin can has some weight
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Products sold by the ounce, pound, etc, should always be priced for the product only. Only the shipping weight should include the packaging.
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NYDutch said:
Products sold by the ounce, pound, etc, should always be priced for the product only.
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Unless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.

I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner. ;)

You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).
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harshness said:
Unless the specific product or its packaging is known at the time of weighing, estimating the tare weight for a PoS system is a tall order.

I'm pretty sure that produce bags can't get any thinner. ;)

You certainly don't want to put unbagged produce on a belt, scale, or in a clerk's hands (gloved or not).
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I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product only
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Jimbo said:
I would think that all the packaging would already be accounted for ... they weigh the container, subtract that from the scale, then add the product , so its weighing the Product only.
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You would be thinking wrong when it comes to goods that are sold by weight (meat, produce, nails). Those items typically go on the scale wrapped without an associated tare. The weight only excludes the sticker because it hasn't been printed yet.
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harshness said:
You would be thinking wrong when it comes to goods that are sold by weight (meat, produce, nails). Those items typically go on the scale wrapped without an associated tare. The weight only excludes the sticker because it hasn't been printed yet.
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Thats ridiculous ....

Thats not how Deli does it, I know your talking pre packaged.
They need to CHANGE that.
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A pound of Coffee, does that include the package it's in ?

No, a pound of coffee refers strictly to the net weight of the coffee itself (16 ounces), not including the weight of the bag or packaging. [1, 2]
  • Net Weight: Food and coffee sold by weight are required by law to list the net weight on the label, which measures only the contents inside the package. [1, 2]
    • Packaging Weight: The foil bag, valve, and label add extra weight to the total item when you hold it, meaning the gross weight on a scale will be slightly more than 16 ounces.
    • Watch Out for Bag Sizes: Always check the label carefully, as many specialty roasters now sell 12-ounce (three-quarter pound) bags while keeping the price or visual impression similar to a full pound. [1, 2, 3]
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The larger discrepancies are likely from a data or sync issue. Digital tags don't cause the error, but they can spread one bad entry across a whole store or region instantly. The small cent differences are probably just rounding in the weight, the price data, or both.
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Jimbo said:
Thats not how Deli does it, I know your talking pre packaged.
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Perhaps only for sliced meat and cheese. Salads and similarly "shifty" or "drippy" items are typically weighed in deli cartons of some sort.

My monster burritos (up to two lbs.) are weighed in their foil jackets or paper mache take-out trays, and the jacket/tray is then "sealed" with the printed label as it comes off the printer.

Precision has to give way to practicality in situations like that.
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iPhone Duo Day at The Apple Store Los Angeles!

Time for another AWESOME video from iJustine!


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8XjBdqOb-0


Direct YouTube Link - iPhone Duo Day at The Apple Store Los Angeles!
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Buy her book!
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Scott Greczkowski
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Last reply · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion

Memories


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I had a BUD in the 80's before the little small dishes started showing up. The signals were unsrambled and then I had to get a monthly code.
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Only 28 years ago and look how different things are now. 🫨
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I forgot about the tv antenna rotator to change polarity…
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I had a BUD in the 80's before the little small dishes started showing up. The signals were unsrambled and then I had to get a monthly code.
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You mean you were pirating the VCII and entering "Wizard numbers" every month after key change? GI finally resorted to changing out the keys twice as often, then even more often, down to just hours, making it mostly untenable?
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When i was a kid, i used to salivate envisioning me having a Cband dish. It wasn't until about 1995, I installed my first Cband dish, and i remember it took me about 2 weeks to get that dish aligned properly.. This was before internet, and i had to call and talk with people on the phone about advice on how to properly tune the dish. I can't remember the receiver, but it had a UHF remote. I had the satellite receiver in the living room, but i ported it to two TV's, one in the living room and one in the bedroom. It was so nice being able to control the receiver with the remote in the bedroom about 40 feet from the living room. I remember watching Rosanne feeds where it would air the entire week in succession. Nice nostalgia.
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I remember watching Rosanne feeds
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Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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Almighty1
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I remember this in the news too...

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$14,000 spent on rented rotary phone

A widow rented a rotary dial telephone for 42 years, paying what her family calculates as more than $14,000 for a now- outdated phone.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
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Almighty1 said:
I remember this in the news too...

www.nbcnews.com

$14,000 spent on rented rotary phone

A widow rented a rotary dial telephone for 42 years, paying what her family calculates as more than $14,000 for a now- outdated phone.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com
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That is a misnomer. In the old days you subscribed to telephone service. That included the telephone line and one telephone. An extension cost $1 a month extra. So that $14,000 over 42 years was for the service not the leased telephone. There is no way they paid $28 a month for 42 years for a leased telephone.
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anybody remember this disaster ?
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SuperDish_Fan23
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SuperDish_Fan23 said:
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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Whoever still has their 922, please let me know i just wanna see photos of the ui and other stuff
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SuperDish_Fan23 said:
Whoever still has their 922, please let me know i just wanna see photos of the ui and other stuff
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View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wL6dsORmXg
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Slicker guides never did much for me
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All DMA's now Western Arc

I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
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navychop
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Years down the road
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Looks like Charlie Ergen will never give up satellite TV. The reason Echostar 25 the most poweful DBS satellite ever built at 110 location already. Also Echostar 26 another super satellite on order for 119 orbital location will be ready in 15 months. he will have 110/119 for another 20 years. Dish will be the only satellte company left. The reason for rural areas and some people like satellite easy to operate and change channels in seconds.
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Mister B
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renjy651 said:
Looks like Charlie Ergen will never give up satellite TV. The reason Echostar 25 the most poweful DBS satellite ever built at 110 location already. Also Echostar 26 another super satellite on order for 119 orbital location will be ready in 15 months. he will have 110/119 for another 20 years. Dish will be the only satellte company left. The reason for rural areas and some people like satellite easy to operate and change channels in seconds.
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I hope these new "most powerful" satellites will mean that DISH can provide every channel that can be sourced in HD in HD. I do not like the fact that two of my favorite channels (Start and H&I) are SD. I was also very disappointed after installation that METV has to be streamed from my internet connection. Finally, I dropped the locals upon seeing that my local CW channel is in blurry letterboxed SD when it has been HD OTA for years.
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I hope these new "most powerful" satellites will mean that DISH can provide every channel that can be sourced in HD in HD. I do not like the fact that two of my favorite channels (Start and H&I) are SD. I was also very disappointed after installation that METV has to be streamed from my internet connection. Finally, I dropped the locals upon seeing that my local CW channel is in blurry letterboxed SD when it has been HD OTA for years.
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my me t.v. is in HD via the sat. though it's better PQ via ota
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Mister B said:
I hope these new "most powerful" satellites will mean that DISH can provide every channel that can be sourced in HD in HD. I do not like the fact that two of my favorite channels (Start and H&I) are SD. I was also very disappointed after installation that METV has to be streamed from my internet connection. Finally, I dropped the locals upon seeing that my local CW channel is in blurry letterboxed SD when it has been HD OTA for years.
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This piece gets me - the fact that Dish has removed SD channels from satellite completely in the name of "HD upgrades". I pay for satellite TV, not streaming...I don't see why they couldn't leave the SD version of the channels on Satellite then put the HD streaming version like they have for other channels.
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telstar_1
Is any SD-only receiver still operating?
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telstar_1 said:
Is any SD-only receiver still operating?
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No
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navychop
navychop
zippyfrog said:
This piece gets me - the fact that Dish has removed SD channels from satellite completely in the name of "HD upgrades". I pay for satellite TV, not streaming...I don't see why they couldn't leave the SD version of the channels on Satellite then put the HD streaming version like they have for other channels.
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CONTRACTS!
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Mister B
Mister B
slow_poke_pete said:
my me t.v. is in HD via the sat. though it's better PQ via ota
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Yes, I considered D* as I knew some of my favorite channels had better PQ but too many require moving up to the "Choice" package and incurring the Regional Sports Fee.
I do not have METV or any of the Weigel owned channels here in El Paso.
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What about the commercial services? will they keep using single Stacked or DP single/dual LNB's?
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telstar_1
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At this point one can only ask whether any live ch's are still distributed in SD. Other than maybe "classics" ch's that run only older stuff
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