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Great timing on this forum.
So in the last 5+ weeks I've been talking with E* & D*. I've been with D* since July of 2000. Always been 100% uptime. Super product. The only downside is I'm in a NRTC area. That used to not matter, but with the HD & DVR's coming from everywhere my local supplier is clueless. I sometimes call Direct instead of my local supplier & they do help me out. One of the Dish local retailers biggest selling point is that Dish is not a NRTC in this area. My mom had Direct & after her moved bought a Dish AT180 from this retailer. It's a nice setup, but she just got 3 301 boxes.
I got fedup with my local guys & called Dish up just to inquire about the 4 room setup. It was a 522 & a 322 with Superdish for my locals. Next thing I know I'm signing up. So the day of my big install arrives & the installer cancels. Next week he shows up & says he won't put it where my Direct dish is because wind will catch the King size Superdish. (it's really the only option I have to put a Dish anywhere) Ok, so I call Dish to cancel my order & when I tell them why they say we'll send a second guy out. I said why is that. He said "Some installers just don't want certain jobs!!!!" WTH? So anyway they promise me a feild tech in 2 weeks. All the while I'm browsing these boards & DBStalk & seeing Dish get drilled for reliability, broken promises & poor Customer Service. I must admit the "Dish NOTwork" was a funny name. Anyway so I start getting a bad feeling about Dish. So I call Direct & tell them my local guys are slow on getting locals to me, can they override them? Sure enough they offer me an install 4 days out. I moved it back to 2 more days because of work. I'm getting a new Directv dish, 2 new recievers & a Tivo. But I must sign a year commitment. When I call to cancel Dish they give me the big speech about Dish is better .... So they offer to give me a month free of the AT180. I decide to cancel anyway & the guy tells me his phone won't let him transfer me to cancellations! It gets better.... Anyway the Dish guys show up when they were suppossed to even though they aren't told I have no contract being I finally did call late to cancel it. OK I'm, done right...? Tivo is coming, Direct has me covered Dish couldn't step up to the plate!!!!!!
So today Dish CALLS ME! They are wanting to know what channels I watch etc. He asks who I have now. I tell him Direct & he says why them. I tell him they are the benchmark. So he goes into his sell, which I tell him this whole story I'm typing now. He says give us a chance before you resign with Direct. I said when can you even check to see if a Superdish is feasible? (remember their first installer said it wasn't) They say the 30th. I said I need it sooner because of work. Direct will be here the 23rd. I said all I need is a yes or no. If it's a yes we can wait a couple of weeks for the install, but I'm not going to cancel Direct to have you tell me that I can't use a Superdish a weeks later & put me back to square one & possibly into the new year before I get setup with Direct. The guys says he can't. I said, OK I'm sticking with Direct then. He says, "Let me know when you want a better service." No kidding!!! So I think about it & call Dish back. I told another guy what happened he said he didn't know what he could do so he transfers me. A woman picks up & knows nothing about the ordeal. I explain it all. I then ask if my 522 would have Name based recording, she says no we don't have that on our DVRs. !!!!! I said didn't 50K people get that software upgrade???? These people don't even know what they are selling! So I told her to get out here sooner than the 30th to give me a yes or no & I'll cancel my Direct appointment. She said she couldn't. I said you guys called me. So anyway Dish doesn't have what it takes to step up & get it done & Direct makes it happen.
I live where the only cable that horrible Adelphia. This town has Dishes all over. It's between D* & E* for me.
Just think about that, after two botched installs, Dish CALLS ME & tells me I NEED A BETTER PROVIDER & then can't back it up by even coming out to give me an opinion on the install!!!!! No wonder people love Direct. I don't need all the Tivo functions, the 522 with NBR & caller id really suits me needs better I must admit & I've love to try one but Dish just continues to shoot themselves in the foot. Don't worry I will post this story on all DBS type boards & tell all 1350 people I work with about Dish. With the internet at my fingertips one guy can influence potential buyers.

If anyone from Dish reads this & is smart enough to get the ball rolling and wants to try & be world class like Direct is let me know. I'll still give you a fair shot, even after your co-workers botch it all up.

email me for contact

rewker@earthlink.net
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wobbie said:
As far as installs. Stay away from the order takers i.e 800# contact a local retailer, thier the guys that take the time and do it correct.
Local installers are not always a better.
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robert luzzi said:
11.25 per hour to drive that pretty van, please

im a certified directv TECH with SBCA certification

i make 280.00 per day 6 days per week

stuff it charlie!!!!!!!!!!!!

pole mounts arent free...........100.00

wall fishes 75.00 each turn of the fish tape

phone jacks, same as verizon, 65.00 each

40 foot ladder 75.00 to deliver

again charlie,,,,,stuff it
So your telling me that if you came and setup directv at someone's house, you would charge them $75.00 dollars if you had to use your ladder?
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The installers showed yesterday AFTER a snow storm left 10 inched overnight. The had 6 cinderblocks in the back of the van & barely made it down the street. Luckily I had already cleaned my drive. I could not believe they showed up. They installed the new Dish where I wanted. Installed a 4x4 multiswitch & ran more wires. It was kind of an easy install I had the longest run of the house already done & the others I had the holes in the walls cut out to run wires.
I paid $49 for the 35 hour Tivo, but got the 70 hour one. Then the one side of the Tivo would not work. (they thought) He said he thought a tuner was bad, so he said he had guys he had on schedule that he'd come back. This is 9:40am. Around 2pm the company in charge of installs called & said they were letting customers know all the installs would be cancelled because of the storm. I was like, you know they were here at 8am...So a little later my installer calls to tell me he will be back by 8pm. At 7:10 he shows up & says I wasn't thinking, I bet it was your multiswitch. He gives me 6x8! Which is good because later I may add a Tivo and/or connect my old OTA antenna for other locals I don't currently get. I was so impressed of their working on my roof in the snow & driving in 10 inches of it I wrote them out a tip. (My wife said they get paid for this!) I said this was above & beyond the call. Besides now I have my Christmas present. The gift that keeps on giving....Tivo :)
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stormchaser3003 said:
So your telling me that if you came and setup directv at someone's house, you would charge them $75.00 dollars if you had to use your ladder?

Obviously you didn't read his "entire" thread, he said a 40' ladder, do you have any idea how big of a ladder that is, the average ladder is only 24', and I don't blame him for charging extra for such a big ladder, I know because I manage a WISP with similar install experience, and I would charge for the same, that is not a ladder you want to be carrying all over town everyday.
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I worked for a dealer installing E* here in town for a little while. I didn't get paid for pole mounts, wall fishes,...or anything like that. I got paid extra to put up a OTA antenna to get our locals before they got on the dish. Then I learned what the D* installers charge for and I said forget this. That's when I quit installing dishes. I know a guy that charges if he has to stick his head in the attic and the people will pay for this. D* installers definitely make more money that E* installers.
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For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Just a heads up... I just patched our PHP to close the major PHP exploit announced this morning.

Now on PHP 8.4.27 (cli) (built: Oct 20 2026 00:00:00)
Don in CT
Just a heads up... I just patched our PHP to close the major PHP exploit announced this morning.

Now on PHP 8.4.27 (cli) (built: Oct 20 2026 00:00:00)
When I heard about this exploit I was wondering how quick you would be on it. :D
Scott Greczkowski
When I heard about this exploit I was wondering how quick you would be on it. :D
12 minutes after the patch was release I had it patched. :)
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A.I. - Be careful what you wish for…
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6:43p Central was dumped off the site, then when I got back on could not reply to post. Down for several minutes.
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6:43p Central was dumped off the site, then when I got back on could not reply to post. Down for several minutes.
Yeah... that was me...

I did another security update and it required me to reboot the server.

I also did a patch for something else and accidently put two ;'s in the config file so when the server rebooted it wouldn't restart a service because of the extra ; in the config file.

And of course as I did it my step dad called me slowing me down in figuring it out.

That was a Scott mistake. Sorry about that.
navychop
OFF WITH YOUR HEAD!

Aww- nevermind.

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TheForce
Supporting Founder Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone
Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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harshness
Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.
comfortably_numb
Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.

Or better yet, innovate something "completely revolutionary!"
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Or better yet, innovate something "completely revolutionary!"
when was the last time they innovated something:rolleyes:
Foxbat
when was the last time they innovated something:rolleyes:
I'd probably say when they came up with their M-series of processors with integrated memory. That allowed Apple to get away from the inefficient Intel CPUs that were limiting their notebook computers.
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Neutron
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Patrick Stewart died yesterday, October 28th at the age of 86. We lost yet another great actor. :(

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Foxbat
Rest in Peace…
Bobby
Rest in peace. Long live Jean Luc Picard…
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Rest in peace. Wow, so many good roles, but Jean Luc Picard will always be my favorite...
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R.I.P.
BlackHitachi
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in Movie Talk
Since the Reds have there thread we should too!

Last watched Nine inch Nails
Next 3:10 to Yuma
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Simple, charming. Entire premise is quite silly but Cary Grant carries it across the line in good fashion.
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Foxbat
Since it was already "paid" for, I spent the two hours of my time watching the John Cena action movie on Apple TV, "Matchbox The Movie" even though the reviews were brutal. It was better than I expected, so I didn't feel like I had wasted an afternoon watching it. But it felt like another "Reacher"/"Neghley"/"Mission: Impossible"/"Fast & Furious" crash and blow stuff up with lots of automatic gunfire mixed in movie featuring covert CIA operatives.

I don't think we'll get a follow-up movie from this. I expect Mattel will have other toy lines to exploit.
Gary Toma
Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum
The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
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National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
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Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
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Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Oct 28 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Oct 28 2026 vs Oct 21 2026:


No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

1 Transponder cleared of all Streams::
Net 15 TID 12 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 13

2 Previously unused Transponders with current APG records::
Net 0 TID 28 Beam NAT + PR is a National Transponder on D16@101, TPN 29
Net 10 TID 126 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D11@99cb, TPN 3

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
4​
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HD​
264​
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1449​
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SD mpeg4​
144​
-1​
194​
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SD mpeg2​
434​
1​
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RB​
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Audio​
89​
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Push​
26​
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Slate​
19​
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1​
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TEST Streams​
National​
Spot Beams​
Count​
Change​
Count​
Change​
4K​
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HD​
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1​
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SD mpeg4​
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SD mpeg2​
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RB​
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Engr Work​
38​
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The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files
A few remaps
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters
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Weekly Analysis for 10/28/2026:
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ElectionHQ mixes testing with BBC News, CNBC, CNN, FBN, FNC, MSNOW, NewsMax and NewsNation

Some more reshuffles

Updating the TMSIDs for KSBI and KQCW to use the cable feeds with Thunder games instead of the OTA feeds

An additional commercial PPV channel is now on 9530
coolman302003
Monday 11/2 is a full slate for NBA League Pass as all 30 teams are playing and 14 out of 15 total games are on NBALP. Only one national TV game on Peacock/NBCSN (Thunder @ Cavs).

DirecTV is even having to use several MLB EI channels (from 745-748) and a NHL CI (770) channel to fit all of them in the guide close together. 5 games at 7:30 ET, 3 games at 8 ET, 2 games at 8:30 ET, 1 game at 9 ET, 3 games at 10 ET. Luckily NHL CI is light on Monday (3 games on CI).

DirecTV is providing both broadcast feeds for all League Pass games except Hornets, Magic, Bucks & Raptors that night. These are all teams that have local broadcasts via a OTA channel which is on spotbeams and have streaming deals (DTC) that are not exclusive DAZN teams which DirecTV just signed a deal with (à la Spurs, Grizzlies, Cavs, Pacers & T'Wolves). Its also very common that we don't get Raptors broadcast very often from TSN or Sportsnet Ontario on League Pass.

11/2/26 (MON) EASTERN7:00 PM7:30 PM8:00 PM8:30 PM9:00 PM10:00 PM
Peacock/NBCSNThunder @ Cavaliers
NBA League PassNonePistons (745) @ HornetsKings (755) @ Mavericks (756)Celtics (760) @ Rockets (761)Trail Blazers (764) @ Nuggets (765)Suns (769) @ Warriors (770)
Hawks (746) @ Pacers (747)Pelicans (757) @ Grizzlies (758)Jazz (762) @ Spurs (763)Raptors @ Clippers (766)
Nets (748) @ Knicks (751)Bucks @ T'Wolves (759)Heat (767) @ Lakers (768)
Wizards (752) @ Magic
Bulls (753) @ 76ers (754)
*No Hornets, Magic local broadcasts*No Bucks local broadcast*No Raptors local broadcast
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Only the Knicks, Nets, Wizards, Bulls, Celtics, Rockets, Lakers, Warriors, Avalanche, Sharks and Bruins feeds will be using remaps of 24/7 RSNs that night. The rest will be relying on the part time feeds, including the Nuggets, Blackhawks and Kings who will be on their alt/overflow channels, and MSG Western NY will be live on channel 635-1 to carry Buffalo area ads during the Knicks game.

The NHL Network alternate will be live on channel 215-1 with Red Wings @ Panthers for those blacked out of Golden Knights @ Bruins on the main feed.

The Thunder @ Cavaliers game will be on one of Peacock Game Pass channels that night for commercial customers, they'll also have the back to back U-Conn Women's and Men's Basketball. One of the part time feeds will also be in use for WWE Raw via Joe Hand promotions.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
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Almighty1
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
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I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
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I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.
Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.
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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Take It Easy On Me - Little River Band
long_time_Dish
Take It Easy - The Eagles
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Take It as It Comes - Steve Winwood
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Take The Money and Run - Steve Miller Band
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Run Joe -- Louis Jordan and his Tympany Five
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meStevo
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Starting a thread klang !

After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.

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KAB
Not in a hurry to watch it this time.
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Finished season 3 last night. Still one of my favorite shows.

Anyone else wonder if there might be something else going on with Callum? Seems to me he has too much access to Russian intelligence.
meStevo
One episode into season 4 that dropped today...

Jon Stewart Popcorn GIF
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meStevo
Renewed for season 5.
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Finished 4 last night. Great stuff.

They do like to end each season with a Bang!
Bobby
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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Bobby
MLB, Rays at Brewers, Saturday 10-24, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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MLB, Brewers at Rays, Monday 10-26, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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MLB, Brewers at Rays, Tuesday 10-27, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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CFB, Florida vs Georgia, Saturday 10-31, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
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CFB, Wisconsin at Iowa, Saturday 10-31, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, Arizona St at BYU, Saturday 10-31, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
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Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
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dfergie
I loved it when Rodney was on the Tonight Show...
Foxbat
Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
Thanks, I wasn't sure if you had the wrong Subject or the wrong YouTube link.
osu1991
Was a Don Rickles fan. I've dvr'd most of his appearances on Carson from the antenna tv replays.