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Last reply Jul 20, 2010 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Timers recording Non-New episodes

Many of my timers, which are set to record New episodes and were previously working fine, are showing that they will record re-runs this week. My 622 is showing that it will record 2 episodes of The Office on Thursday, Saturday Night Live on Saturday, and a bunch of episodes of The Hills (not mine!) over the weekend. Is anyone else seeing this or is there something wrong with my receiver?

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JWKessler

Jun 3, 2010

I find the whole thing totally confusing. For instance, if there is a conflict so the first showing of a new episode is skipped, will it record on the next showing - or is it considered not to be new then and will be skipped. If I really want to see all episodes, I just set the DVR to record all, and spend several minutes of my life weeding out the repeats.

What would really help is for every episode of a show to be assigned some unique identifier that would never change. The that could be used to flag episodes. I notice descriptions and even original air dates in the guide can sometimes be different for the same episode. Stuff that aired originally a year or two ago can be listed as first airing in 2010.

This was also a problem on my old cable box, so it's not just a Dish problem.

There must be a better way...

Tony S

Jun 3, 2010

JWKessler said:
...What would really help is for every episode of a show to be assigned some unique identifier that would never change. The that could be used to flag episodes....

I think Dish does try to do that with the 'episode number'. They are supposedly unique but I have noticed that the episode numbers are not always in chronological sequence. However, none of that matters when the guide lists the wrong data.

SaltiDawg

Jul 14, 2010

Tony S said:
I think Dish does try to do that with the 'episode number'. They are supposedly unique but I have noticed that the episode numbers are not always in chronological sequence. However, none of that matters when the guide lists the wrong data.

As a poster just wished, each episode can and does have a unique identifier that the receiver can use to determine if the episode is, in fact, new. It is not the episode number, it is not the word New, it is not the date in First Aired Date, and it is not displayed on the info screen.

When you see a generic description of a show up there it is very likely that the guide provider does not know the unique identifier. Also, they simply make errors some times.

DishSubLA

Jul 15, 2010

SaltiDawg said:
As a poster just wished, each episode can and does have a unique identifier that the receiver can use to determine if the episode is, in fact, new. It is not the episode number, it is not the word New, it is not the date in First Aired Date, and it is not displayed on the info screen.

When you see a generic description of a show up there it is very likely that the guide provider does not know the unique identifier. Also, they simply make errors some times.

OK, let's presume you are correct (but unless you have specific knowledge of your claim because you know this for a fact, your theory, is, at best, apocryphal), but that identifier that you claim exists (from the ether, apparently) is based on the air date. How do I know this? Because this is exactly what Dan said in a past Tech Forum, that the DVR uses the air date to determain if a show is NEW episode to record or not. Before that, when NBR was first rolled out, Dan and Mark stated that the DVR uses, according to my memory, the word New in the info, but they said that they plan to use the air date in a future update so it would be more reliable because there wasn't always room for the word New, or it simply wasn't in the info.

Since you seem to have special knowledge, perhaps you can share it with us and educate us so we understand. Please explain what this "unique identifier" is and upon what data is it based and how it works.

n0qcu

Jul 15, 2010

DishSubLA said:
OK, let's presume you are correct (but unless you have specific knowledge of your claim because you know this for a fact, your theory, is, at best, apocryphal), but that identifier that you claim exists (from the ether, apparently) is based on the air date. How do I know this? Because this is exactly what Dan said in a past Tech Forum, that the DVR uses the air date to determain if a show is NEW episode to record or not. Before that, when NBR was first rolled out, Dan and Mark stated that the DVR uses, according to my memory, the word New in the info, but they said that they plan to use the air date in a future update so it would be more reliable because there wasn't always room for the word New, or it simply wasn't in the info.

Since you seem to have special knowledge, perhaps you can share it with us and educate us so we understand. Please explain what this "unique identifier" is and upon what data is it based and how it works.

I don't know what imaginary Tech chat you were watching but the ones I saw Dan said they do/did NOT use the word "NEW" they used hidden meta data that we the users do not ever see to determine if the programing is new and if any of that hidden data is missing they will by default consider the programing to be new so that you won't miss recording a new show.

SaltiDawg

Jul 15, 2010

n0qcu said:
... they used hidden meta data that we the users do not ever see to determine if the programing is new ...

Thank you, n0qcu.

benk016

Jul 16, 2010

I always figured they went off the part of the guide data that shows "new" if an episode is new. as I've had programs that are several years old with old dates that randomly said "new" in the description and it recorded it on a new only timer

SaltiDawg

Jul 16, 2010

benk016 said:
I always figured they went off the part of the guide data that shows "new" if an episode is new. as I've had programs that are several years old with old dates that randomly said "new" in the description and it recorded it on a new only timer

Nope.

DishSubLA

Jul 20, 2010

n0qcu said:
I don't know what imaginary Tech chat you were watching but the ones I saw Dan said they do/did NOT use the word "NEW" they used hidden meta data that we the users do not ever see to determine if the programing is new and if any of that hidden data is missing they will by default consider the programing to be new so that you won't miss recording a new show.

Ok, when was that Tech Forum? The Tech Forum I saw a few years ago had Dan state very clearly that they were going to use the air date to deter main if a show was new. Now, this airdate may be in the metadata as well. So, in other words, there are at least 2 places the airdate resides: on the info screen that consumers access and in the metadata that consumers do not access. We could be talking about an error in the entry of meta data, but that doesn't change the fact that Dish very well uses the air date as the key information to determine if an episode is new, unless Dan lied, got it wrong, or Dish has since changed from using the air date.

I can say that from my experience using the Dish DVR, it is, indeed, air date that does have the most consistency of accurate recordings. But what of those recordings that fire even though they are repeats but we wanted new? That is due to the change of software that Dan did admit to on a past Tech Forum because too many people complained that the NEW episodes were not recording, so repeat episodes of some shows will record even if the user has selected the use of NEW timer. I think you are confusing that matter as proof that the DVR does not use air dates, but that would be an unsupported conclusion. In other words, all the correct metadata was there, apparently, but the DVR's weren't recording the NEW episodes in too many DVR's while other customers had flawless operations of NEW episodes recordings. This was the situation that forced Dan and Dish to alter the software to record, in many instances, repeat programs even if all the correct and relevant meta data was there for it NOT to record the repeat.

That is the problem we are all (at least on this thread) experiencing. Simply put, this is just another Dish software problem that has yet to be fixed so that a very high number of DVR's work as advertised. I won't hold my breath for a Dish solution.

Awaiting your auspicious reply, but I'm sure I'll just get another one of your rude ones. Please spend sufficient time to make it entertaining.

MikeD-C05

Jul 20, 2010

On any shows that I have problems with the timer recording everything ,even old repeats, I change my timer to weekly instead of new episodes. This happens on shows like Rescue Me and Dr. Who as well as some others.

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Bobby

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Last reply 10 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish 4K Event Listings (No Discussion)

This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.

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WildBill

Last reply 50 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Problem with Amazon Prime Video

I've been having intermittent problems with Amazon Prime video programs loading using the H3 guide listing. I can get to the program I want to watch, but when I try to view it, it starts to load and then stalls. Eventually, a screen pops up saying "something went wrong, try again later". I've tried rebooting the hopper without success. Sometimes switching the HDMI input on my LG TV works, but not always. I don't have this problem on my phone or computer, so it is not a network or router issue.

I did a quick google search and found that this is a common problem associated with overloading or corruption of the data cache in the Amazon app and the solution is to clear the cache. Easy to do on a computer or phone, but I don't know how to do this on the H3. If anyone a solution or suggestion, I'd appreciate some help. Thanks.

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reubenray

50 minutes ago

I gave up trying to watch Prime through my H3 a long time ago.

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mheisen

Last reply 52 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Hopper 3 with Hopper plus internet connection problems

Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?

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Almighty1

Thursday at 2:50 PM

mheisen said:
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?

I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?

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mheisen

Thursday at 6:11 PM

Almighty1 said:
I have a DISH Hopper 3 (Software H713) with Hopper Plus (Software P15403). I have not tried streaming services but I primarily watch TVB Jadeworld international package which is only available by streaming and when I have an issue, I usually have to go to a non-streaming satellite channel first before the streaming channels will work again. What software versions do you have and what is the error message if any are showing on your screen? or is that Dish downloading logo just stuck and never finishes?

I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.

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Almighty1

Thursday at 6:33 PM

mheisen said:
I'm on H713 on the Hopper and P15403 on the Hopper Plus. It shows internet connection issues and doesn't finish loading the various services. I see the "loading circle going around. Sometimes I get a message saying that the service is having trouble loading my content and to check the internet connection.

Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.

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slow_poke_pete

Friday at 3:38 AM

Almighty1 said:
Did it ever work correctly before? Hard to say what the problem is. Usually for streaming, it will show the Dish logo with lines sweeping down to show downloading, never seen the circle issue. Did you try a manual reboot, red button reset, power cord unplug/replug to see if it makes a difference.

Might be worth just to ditch the hopper plus. No issues here on h713

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slow_poke_pete

Friday at 3:43 AM

mheisen said:
Over the past few weeks, I have had problems connecting to streaming services (Netflix, HBO et al). When I go to the TV's native Channels, I have no problem. The Dish internet troubleshooter shows I have a good internet connection. I'm wondering whether it's an issue with my internet provider or a problem with the Dish software on the Hopper Plus. Anyone else seeing this?

Buy a roku and dump the hopper plus you'll be better off. If you have a smart tv you don't need either one. No hopper plus here and no issues!!!

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Almighty1

Friday at 3:30 PM

slow_poke_pete said:
Might be worth just to ditch the hopper plus. No issues here on h713

I have a Hopper Plus and no issues either. charlesrshell has both a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and one without, he doesn't have the same issue. Before blaming it on the Hopper Plus, he should see if the problem still exists without the Hopper Plus connected as it could be the Internet connection itself or some setting in the router itself. There is someone in another thread who has EHD issues on the Hopper 3 only setup but does not have the EHD issues on the Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus and he has already tried swapping the EHD and it did not make a difference so like the saying, YMMV.

https://www.satelliteguys.us/xen/th...cognize-ehd-is-connected-after-reboot.423971/

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Almighty1

Friday at 3:34 PM

slow_poke_pete said:
Buy a roku and dump the hopper plus you'll be better off. If you have a smart tv you don't need either one. No hopper plus here and no issues!!!

The Roku costs $$$, Hopper Plus is free. That may not be the only costs as it depends if the TV in question still has available HDMI ports and if not, it will require a HDMI switch and HDMI cable which adds more to the cost.

I have a LG 3D OLED Smart TV and I still need either of them because it does not have Android TV built in. Add a Hopper Plus and see if you actually have issues or not as until you actually tried it, it means nothing.

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jsmit86

Yesterday at 9:05 AM

If the OP has a router and a managed switch, that could be the problem.
I have a Hopper 3 and 5 Joey 4s. I recently updated my Router, Switch and access points with Ubiquiti UniFi gear. I had an issue where the switch interpreted the communication between the hopper internet connection and one of the Joeys as a data loop. I had to change some settings in the switch to re-enable that port. Your router could possibly be doing the same thing blocking the connection.

If your router has a malware connection setting, try disabling it temporarily, and see if the internet comes back. Contact your ISP and see if there is a block happening at the router or switch level, or via the ISP's threat protection.

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Almighty1

Yesterday at 5:20 PM

jsmit86 said:
If the OP has a router and a managed switch, that could be the problem.
I have a Hopper 3 and 5 Joey 4s. I recently updated my Router, Switch and access points with Ubiquiti UniFi gear. I had an issue where the switch interpreted the communication between the hopper internet connection and one of the Joeys as a data loop. I had to change some settings in the switch to re-enable that port. Your router could possibly be doing the same thing blocking the connection.

If your router has a malware connection setting, try disabling it temporarily, and see if the internet comes back. Contact your ISP and see if there is a block happening at the router or switch level, or via the ISP's threat protection.

Can you share what settings you had to change?

Required Inbound & Outbound Network Ports
The standard ports designated for DISH Hopper configurations include:

- TCP Port 80 – HTTP communication
- TCP Port 443 – HTTPS secure communication
- TCP Port 5678 – Neighbor Discovery / Device Sync
- UDP Port 80 – Alternative streaming/network data
- UDP Port 443 – Alternative secure media streams
- UDP Port 5678 – Remote pairing and network discovery

Critical Network & Security Considerations

- UPnP (Universal Plug and Play): Enabling UPnP on your router is the easiest way to allow the Hopper to automatically handle its own port maps.
Internal Communication (MoCA & Local LAN): The Hopper Plus and Joeys communicate internally over your local home network using router's default internal traffic policies. Local firewall software or strict internal VLAN isolation can block the Hopper 3 from seeing the Hopper Plus or Joey extensions.

The other thing is that these are streaming channels which was why I asked if they have worked correctly even without the Hopper Plus as checking the post history of the OP, it appears that the Hopper Plus was added around 1/2 a year ago and from looking at my own Internet settings portion, all the Hopper 3 does is really measure signal strenth for WiFi and probably just check ping times to show it is connected or not to the internet, it does not check the actual speed or latency. Since the OP has a Hopper Plus, OP can always install the Speedtest app for diagnostics and then take a photo of the results and post it here. Before 2017, I used tȯhave 6Mbps/768Kbps ADSL and even though the Hopper 1 and Hopper 3 also showed internet connectivity is okay, everytime my Ring Doorbell is uploading, it would knock the entire internet connection off-line as the upload pipe would be 100% filled by the Ring Door bell uploading the video because the ACKnowledgement packets would not have priority being sent back in time which was fixed with QoS traffic shaping but that still does not mean streaming will work as it requires at least 25Mbps minimum or more if there are other devices on the same connection sharing the bandwidth.

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jsmit86

52 minutes ago

Almighty1 said:
Can you share what settings you had to change?

Required Inbound & Outbound Network Ports
The standard ports designated for DISH Hopper configurations include:

TCP Port 80 – HTTP communication

TCP Port 443 – HTTPS secure communication

TCP Port 5678 – Neighbor Discovery / Device Sync

UDP Port 80 – Alternative streaming/network data

UDP Port 443 – Alternative secure media streams

UDP Port 5678 – Remote pairing and network discovery

Critical Network & Security Considerations

UPnP (Universal Plug and Play): Enabling UPnP on your router is the easiest way to allow the Hopper to automatically handle its own port maps.

Internal Communication (MoCA & Local LAN): The Hopper Plus and Joeys communicate internally over your local home network using router's default internal traffic policies. Local firewall software or strict internal VLAN isolation can block the Hopper 3 from seeing the Hopper Plus or Joey extensions.The other thing is that these are streaming channels which was why I asked if they have worked correctly even without the Hopper Plus as checking the post history of the OP, it appears that the Hopper Plus was added around 1/2 a year ago and from looking at my own Internet settings portion, all the Hopper 3 does is really measure signal strenth for WiFi and probably just check ping times to show it is connected or not to the internet, it does not check the actual speed or latency. Since the OP has a Hopper Plus, OP can always install the Speedtest app for diagnostics and then take a photo of the results and post it here. Before 2017, I used tȯhave 6Mbps/768Kbps ADSL and even though the Hopper 1 and Hopper 3 also showed internet connectivity is okay, everytime my Ring Doorbell is uploading, it would knock the entire internet connection off-line as the upload pipe would be 100% filled by the Ring Door bell uploading the video because the ACKnowledgement packets would not have priority being sent back in time which was fixed with QoS traffic shaping but that still does not mean streaming will work as it requires at least 25Mbps minimum or more if there are other devices on the same connection sharing the bandwidth.

This was for port settings for the switch, not the router.

Originally was recommended to use EDGE vs. Infrastructure, but had to change that back to Infrastructure.

Had to leave STP (Spanning tree protocol) ON, but disable BPDU guard, and also had to disable Non-STP loop protection.

The previous settings were flagging normal dish system packets as a data loop, and fully blocked that port on the UniFI Pro Max 16 POE switch.

These were specific to my managed switch, and may not apply to the OP's issue.

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Peter Parker

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Last reply Today at 3:51 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

DISH Hopper 3 Software Version 713 Is Out

No idea what improvements might be involved.

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rvvaquero

Oct 21, 2026

That's a lot of information to ingest. However, I don't have the Hopper Plus and my 54 remote is doing crazy things to the Hopper 3. Several times each evening when I press the skip forward button several times to advance through a commercial, it switches the receiver either onto live TV or into suspension. Other buttons will also cause this randomly, I haven't established any patterns I can describe. I use "recall" to go back to my recorded program in progress.

Needless to say, something in the newer Hopper 3 softwares has caused the remote functioning to ......................malfunction. Evidently, it applies to third party remotes as well as DISH's own remotes.

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GRB1959

Oct 21, 2026

rvvaquero said:
That's a lot of information to ingest. However, I don't have the Hopper Plus and my 54 remote is doing crazy things to the Hopper 3. Several times each evening when I press the skip forward button several times to advance through a commercial, it switches the receiver either onto live TV or into suspension. Other buttons will also cause this randomly, I haven't established any patterns I can describe. I use "recall" to go back to my recorded program in progress.

Needless to say, something in the newer Hopper 3 softwares has caused the remote functioning to ......................malfunction. Evidently, it applies to third party remotes as well as DISH's own remotes.

This is exactly the same issue I was having as I had the Hopper 3 and 54 remote without the Hopper Plus and the symptoms were virtually identical to yours.

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ERSanders

Oct 21, 2026

We have had a corolary problem in this and the prior s/w. Using several different 40.0 remotes (yeah, we're old), when one pauses a live or recorded show it becomes a crap shoot whether it will step foreward the 30" as requested, jump to the end, or restart the episode. Tried the famous 60" reboot to no avail and have decided to live with it vs. a receiver swap risk.

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tpribors

Wednesday at 3:56 PM

I think there's a change to the "skip forward 30 seconds". With CBS that does not have auto-skip, if you stack up a bunch of 30 second forwards it seems to stop when the kangaroo signaling the end of the commercial break appears.

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long_time_Dish

Today at 3:51 PM

Also posted this in the 3rd party remote thread.

My Hopper 3 updated itself to H713 last week and the IR issue is worse now. On H711, I could be on an SD channel for several hours and the IR side of my H3 would still be responsive without my having to tap the View button on my Pronto Pro every 15 minutes. Now, if I stay even on an SD channel without tapping the View button at least once an hour, it becomes unresponsive to my Pronto Pro without tapping the View button at least 5-20 times, just like on the HD and 4K channels. So, H713 actually made the issue worse.

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What's For Lunch?

We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so...

Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...

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Sweet tea…

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Beef, bean green chile, cheese homemade burritos here... Water

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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Last reply Today at 3:11 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

TVs are really getting big these days

Was raining yesterday so I went to Sams up in Dothan to stock up on some things. Haven't been there in quite a while. I was amazed at how large most of the TVs were. When I walked in they had a 100 in Vizio (I think it was Vizio) that was marked down to something like $1,200. The first rows of TVs were all in the 80 in + sizes. The next couple of rows had the "smaller" models....those 75 and under. I was amazed at how small the 75s looked when lined up with the larger screens.

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osu1991

Today at 10:28 AM

Q-LED and Mini LED panels have improved the picture quality and the tv's are so thin and nearly without bezels now. I've thought about replacing the 75in 4k DV/HDR LED Sony in my living room with a newer 86in. That's as big as I can go without construction changes. I watch the 75in 4k DV/HDR Q-LED in my bedroom and the difference between the two is very noticeable. There's nothing wrong with the living room tv though and I don't now that I actually watch enough anymore to really justify it. I could move it out to the patio but the 65in Q-LED out there looks really good and I'd have to change the mount to accomdate a larger tv out there.

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Foxbat

Today at 2:45 PM

I'm at a limit for TV sizes at this time. My Father-in-Law crafted a custom entertainment center for our family room and we were restricted from going too big based on the side cabinets and central bridge fitting in the width of the room. It turns out to be where a 55" screen with bezels fits but no 65" bezel-less screen can fit. I think there was a brief period where 58" screens where a thing, but no more.

So, no huge screens for the Foxbat's…

TRG

Today at 3:04 PM

Foxbat said:
I'm at a limit for TV sizes at this time. My Father-in-Law crafted a custom entertainment center for our family room and we were restricted from going too big based on the side cabinets and central bridge fitting in the width of the room. It turns out to be where a 55" screen with bezels fits but no 65" bezel-less screen can fit. I think there was a brief period where 58" screens where a thing, but no more.

So, no huge screens for the Foxbat's…

55" is plenty big.

dishstaller

Today at 3:11 PM

TRG said:
55" is plenty big.

And to think....I was SO proud of myself when I bought a 27 in TV in the late 80s. Everyone just had a 25 in so I was really in high cotton.

TRG

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Today at 2:58 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Has anyone been to Wales?

I've pretty much done most things in Ireland and I'm thinking about the other side of the Irish sea. I'm thinking about traveling to Wales this summer. My second choice would be Scotland. I don't want anything to do with London except maybe landing in Heathrow and then escaping quickly.

Any tips or experiences to share?

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TVs are really getting big these days

Has anyone been to Wales?