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andreah1

Last reply Jun 9, 2010 · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

Super perturbed....24 month commitment

Been a Dtv subscriber for 5 years. The past few days been contemplating switching over to dish because of the free hd and the cheaper price in general. In the meantime I had called D and they were going to come this week to install free hd for 2 years. I decided today I didn't want to do it because they told me I had to commit for 24 months. The girl on the phone said no problem and as she's canceling my order says I already have a commitment in place til 9/2011. I was like "what"? We've been customers for 5 years, why would that be? SHe said back in September I activated an R22...true I told her, but I purchased it myself. She said unfort. it doesn't matter, when you activate it, you add on 24 months. Oh boy, hold me back. Told her the dip that activated the new one never told me that and she says they have a script they are supposed to read everytime. Great, so now what? I'm def. switching to Dish now, I'm sick of always getting told different things by the reps. She suggesting writing a letter to the president of dtv which of course I will do but what do I do in the meantime to avoid having to pay that HUGE cancellation fee? Any ideas? HELP!

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andreah1

Jun 9, 2010

Yep, squeaky wheel gets the grease, I whined and got what I wanted, unfortunately in today's world that's what you have to do. As far as the difference in HD for the both, if it turns out to be crappy with dish I'll have to just say oh well and be stuck with it for 2 years. We're most excited about finally being able to get out locals, we live way out in the boonies and have been told for 5 years from dtv that "they are coming", yeah, quit lying. We've had people out here with OTA antennas and can't pick up anything so for us I think even though I said the HD was a big point for switching, the locals are the main point. Sick of waiting for dtv. Mind you, I have no problem with most of their programing, just tired of the customer service, I assume it probably going to be the same with just about any company nowadays though.

camo

Jun 9, 2010

Locals would be a deciding point for me also.
As far as HD goes I have noticed when you record HD with Dish vs Direct, the Direct Hd files take up more room. My 1T esata drive is filing up fast. So the compression must be a lot more with Dish as others stated.
I had 150 hours on my 1T external USB drive with Dish and was only 40% full. I'm sure that's why they are able to broadcast more HD channels on each satellite.
I wish I had keep my Dish service longer so I could of done a side-by-side comparison. Unfortunately I called and had it disconnected the same day my Direct was hooked up.

Jimbo

Jun 9, 2010

camo said:
Locals would be a deciding point for me also.
As far as HD goes I have noticed when you record HD with Dish vs Direct, the Direct Hd files take up more room. My 1T esata drive is filing up fast. So the compression must be a lot more with Dish as others stated.
I had 150 hours on my 1T external USB drive with Dish and was only 40% full. I'm sure that's why they are able to broadcast more HD channels on each satellite.
I wish I had keep my Dish service longer so I could of done a side-by-side comparison. Unfortunately I called and had it disconnected the same day my Direct was hooked up.

Depending on when you did this comparison ... was your recordings Mpeg2 or Mpeg4 ?

cfb

Jun 9, 2010

Although you may not notice it unless you have a good tv. Our old 65" rear projection crt high def set looked pretty good back in 2004 when I got it. Looks lousy compared to our new 60" aquos lcd. I probably wouldnt see much difference in PQ between a lower bitrate HD signal and a higher bitrate one, at least up to a point.

iceturkee

Jun 9, 2010

first, of all, i wouldn't buy any newer dtv equipment from fleabay or carigslist without getting the rid number first, then calling dtv to verify the status. you could be wasting your money on something that might not even be activated if there is money owed on account from the previous person.

there is an old saying.....buyer beware!

sonydude1966

Jun 9, 2010

andreah1 said:
Yep, squeaky wheel gets the grease, I whined and got what I wanted, unfortunately in today's world that's what you have to do. As far as the difference in HD for the both, if it turns out to be crappy with dish I'll have to just say oh well and be stuck with it for 2 years. We're most excited about finally being able to get out locals, we live way out in the boonies and have been told for 5 years from dtv that "they are coming", yeah, quit lying. We've had people out here with OTA antennas and can't pick up anything so for us I think even though I said the HD was a big point for switching, the locals are the main point. Sick of waiting for dtv. Mind you, I have no problem with most of their programing, just tired of the customer service, I assume it probably going to be the same with just about any company nowadays though.

Every time I call D*, they mess something up, it's unreal. They've disconnected my DVR service three times, and once, all my service was accidently turned off. I was once charged for Choice AND Choice Plus in the same billing period.

Yes, I get this all fixed with a second phone call, but damn, why can't these reps push the right button and get the same info when you call in. I especially like how you can add premiums online, but when you try and cancel it, they tell you to call in. I hate calling D*. All I've gotten were idiots. Not saying they're all that way, but I haven't heard any good ones yet.

camo

Jun 9, 2010

Jimbo said:
Depending on when you did this comparison ... was your recordings Mpeg2 or Mpeg4 ?

I started the HD with Dish in Aug 08 and ended April 10. I recorded everything from sporting events, movies, etc. everything was HD content so what ever they used back then. I think MP4 the whole time with HD. Now that I think about it there harddrives combine with the receiver so it was more than 1Tbit. Think the harddrive on receiver was 300 or 400 megs.

scoop8

Jun 9, 2010

sonydude1966 said:
Every time I call D*, they mess something up, it's unreal. They've disconnected my DVR service three times, and once, all my service was accidently turned off. I was once charged for Choice AND Choice Plus in the same billing period.

Yes, I get this all fixed with a second phone call, but damn, why can't these reps push the right button and get the same info when you call in. I especially like how you can add premiums online, but when you try and cancel it, they tell you to call in. I hate calling D*. All I've gotten were idiots. Not saying they're all that way, but I haven't heard any good ones yet.

That's a bummer but one thing I've learned from being on these DTV forums is that there is a wide range of customer experiences with DTV. Me, I've had good luck with DTV since '99. I can only recall one CSR that came across to me as "having a bad day" but we all have those in this life. All of my other CSR/DTV interfaces have been positive.

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dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 10 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

You can't even trust the cost per ounce info in grocery stores anymore

I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

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Jimbo

Today at 9:23 AM

dishstaller said:
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

Walmart isn't the only one ...

Juan

40 minutes ago

dishstaller said:
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...the product label only shows the weight of the product...I am sure if you brought your own plastic baggies to bring the product home you could get the cheaper price

harshness

39 minutes ago

Jimbo said:
Walmart isn't the only one ...

I've been seeing this more and more on Amazon. Sometimes it seems there is no way they could have arrived at the number.

What rankles me even more is Costco changing units of measure between similar products, so you have to convert them to compare prices.

dishstaller

10 minutes ago

Juan said:
When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...

Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.

Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply 15 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

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Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

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Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

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sdfntx

Today at 9:36 AM

Love Every Little Thing About You - Gallery

gms49ers

Today at 10:40 AM

Where's My Thing? - Rush

harshness

49 minutes ago

I Don't Wanna Miss a Thing - Aerosmith

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Bobby

37 minutes ago

Good Golly, Miss Molly - Little Richard

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dishstaller

15 minutes ago

Little Miss Dangerous - Ted Nugent

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dfergie

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply 31 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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harshness

Sunday at 11:30 AM

I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

harshness

Yesterday at 5:32 PM

harshness said:
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.

Foxbat

Yesterday at 8:39 PM

harshness said:
It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.

Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.

Bobby

Yesterday at 9:05 PM

Foxbat said:
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.

Winter blend is cheaper than Summer blend.

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Bobby

36 minutes ago

Regular$5.839
Premium$6.299
Diesel$7.999
at Costco, Rohnert Park.

harshness

31 minutes ago

Foxbat said:
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price?

Winter blend is reportedly 10-30 cents cheaper, but I would point out that prices have dropped as much as 62 cents at RP.

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reubenray

38 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish vs Streaming Apps?

Every time my Dish contract comes up I weigh the options of keeping Dish or switch to streaming. Right now I can watch/record the OTA channels vis my HDHomerun. I also can stream CBS and NBC via the Paramount+ and Peacock apps. What I would need to find is how to watch the Food Network, HGTV, Syfy, USA, Hallmark channels, Great American Family, Lifetime channels plus a few more with an app or two. My current Dish bill is $118, so I should be able to get a few apps for a lot less.

Any suggestions? I would want the best picture quality and audio quality I could get.

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Former member 209992

Last reply 39 minutes ago · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center

Site is slooooow

For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.

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Scott Greczkowski

Saturday at 3:21 PM

Ok checked it out and for some reason the web server (NGINX) tried starting before the DNS resolver fully loaded. This is why it worked when I rebooted the machine.

Thanks to ChatGPT it had me change the NGINX config to prevent this from happening again.

With that said I can't prevent the ISP from doing emergency upgrades which was the cause of all of this.

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navychop

Saturday at 3:39 PM

Nature will develop better idiots.

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TRG

Saturday at 4:19 PM

navychop said:
Nature will develop better idiots.

God help us.

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Scott Greczkowski

Monday at 11:15 AM

I guess this is what the downtime was about.

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Scott Greczkowski

39 minutes ago

Just a heads up... I just patched our PHP to close the major PHP exploit announced this morning.

Now on PHP 8.4.27 (cli) (built: Oct 20 2026 00:00:00)

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Today at 10:52 AM · posted in BooredAtWork.COM

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Gary Toma

Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 10:40 AM · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum

DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 10/14/2026

The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:

National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)

Additional tabs provide:

OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders

Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions

DIRECTV_TPN_Map_261014.xlsx 1,874 KB

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KyL416

Yesterday at 2:37 PM

WCWW/25 CW South Bend and WBKP/5 CW Marquette are now testing on the stream server. These are both already available on satellite.

Now live in the satellite guide:
663-2 PISTONS (663-1 is likely being reserved for an overflow feed of Detroit Sportsnet, if there's a 2027 MLB season)
675 THUNDER
693 CLIPPERS

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doctor J

Today at 7:22 AM

DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Oct 21 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Oct 21 2026 vs Oct 14 2026:

No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

1 Transponder cleared of all Streams::
Net 10 TID 126 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D11@99cb, TPN 3

1 Previously unused Transponder with current APG records::
Net 15 TID 15 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 16

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams	National		Spot Beams
	Count	Change	Count	Change
4K	4
HD	264	2	1449
SD mpeg4	145		194
SD mpeg2	433
RB
Audio	89
Push	26
Slate	19		1

TEST Streams	National		Spot Beams
	Count	Change	Count	Change
4K
HD			1
SD mpeg4
SD mpeg2
RB
Engr Work	38	-2

The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files

NBA Updates
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters

doctor J

Today at 7:23 AM

weekly Analysis for 10/21/2026:

Weekly_Analysis_261021.xlsx 16 KB

KyL416

Today at 7:25 AM

HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps

Mr Tony

Today at 10:40 AM

KyL416 said:
HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps

Wait…..
So even though DAZN keeps touting 'only way to see games' if you are a subscriber to Choice (like my stepdad) if an agreement is reached he can see the Wolfies on 668?
I know the Wild are in dispute and a slate is on 668-1.

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Marques Brownlee

Today at 10:32 AM · posted in Marques Brownlee