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Last reply Jun 12, 2010 · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion

Easiest / Strongest Satellite to aim at from Central Florida ?

Hi all, I finally got my equipment and I am ready to start looking for satellites.
All high quality coax has been run and dish is mounted and Viewsat Ultra is on and ready to go.

Here is my exact setup:

Viewsat Ultra running factory bin file
Extreme II Linear LNB with 0.3db noise rating
Quality RG6 cable
Dish Network Plus Dish measuring 30 inches wide and 24 inches tall
a generic bracket mount from ebay allowing me to mount the ExtremeII LNB on the arm of the Dish Network Superdish.

What is the satellite with the strongest signal and easiest to aim at from Florida zip code 34741 ? I tried for about 45 minutes nonstop to find Galaxy 19 with no luck at all. My signal is 75 and my quality stays at 0 no matter how hard I tried to find it using the data from dishpointer.com
I have attached some pictures of my dish setup here :

http://207.36.201.8/~op/temp/photo1.jpg
http://207.36.201.8/~op/temp/photo2.jpg
http://207.36.201.8/~op/temp/photo3.jpg
http://207.36.201.8/~op/temp/photo4.jpg

Any input is appreciated. I am not 100% certain I mounted the LNB correctly to the dish with the generic bracket. How does it look from the pics? Should I slightly adjust/bend the LNB mount so that the LNB will be pretty much pointing directly plum into the middle of the dish?

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user786

Jun 10, 2010

OK I finally have SOME bit more positive news to share but still in trouble with why I am having problems.

I went and borrowed my neighbors linear LNB which is a known good LNB and stuck it on my arm mount and threw it up on the dish and aligned and found G19 within 3 minutes VERY easily. His is a basic VERY cheapy $10 linear LNB with 0.5 db noise rating. The one I have is supposed to be a better XTREME II from my research on this forum with 0.3 db noise rating. Hooray I got a bird with his cheapo LNB! I then proceeded to really fine tune and align the dish as perfectly as possible down to the oomph degree. The sad news that even with properly skewing the dish (I left the LNB at 0 and skewed the entire dish 26 degrees) I still was only getting a signal of 80 and a Quality of mid 30's at maximum. I really seriously fine tuned skew and tilt and direction and that was the absolute best on the strongest G19 transponder which for me happened to be 11898. Then I went inside and did a full blindscan and got about 20 to 30 channels only. All the channels on transponder 11898 worked fine in the mid 30 for quality but all the other transponders had quality of 10-12 and would not display a viewable video feed. Also many transpoders listed on lyngsat were plain missing. So anyway I saved the results of the blindscan and then went outside and very very carefully removed his LNB and very carefully replaced it with my XTREME II LNB and made sure to skew the LNB at zero using the marking on the side. Tightened up and very carefully refintuned everything and went back in side. Hooray I was able to detect and lock on G19 but the BAD news is my LNB was giving way LESS quality than his cheap junk. His LNB says 0.5 noise and mine says 0.3 noise. Yet on 11898 TP his LNB was getting 34-35 and mine is getting barely 10-12. On the other TP's where his was getting 10-12 mine is now fluctuating between 0-2. This is FRUSTRATING to say the least but I am patient and am keeping my cool and happily taking the challenge and tinkering along diligently and looking for more advice.

Everyone keeps saying that 30"x24" is more than big enough but I am not sure. I have a totally clear view of the sky. No lines, no trees, no houses, NOTHING at all in front of me. The only other thing could be that the LNB is not at the correct focal length on the arm of the dish or not at the correct focal point on the dish. I use the original Dish Network LNB and have everything on my custom mount and linear LNB pretty much exactly lined up with the specs from the Dish Network original LNB.

What else can I try? Why is his cheapo LNB getting better quality than my LNB?
But even his is getting max of mid 30's for quality? I am using the Viewsat Ultra (not Ultra Lite) with the original factory bin file from viewsatusa.com and the default sat file. I have used this STB for over a year on some other circular polarity stuff and it works just fine. I will confirm this by taking it over to my neighbors house later on and jacking into his dish just to make sure. As you can probably tell I am pretty technical and a very analytical thinker but there must be something simple I am missing due to lack of as much experience as you guys. Yes I can go out and buy a nice fat 39" dish and it may solve the problem but where is the challenge in that? I should be getting higher than mid 30's with my 30x24 and my good quality LNB right?

Help me pros. Help me. What am I missing??

user786

Jun 10, 2010

Crazy idea....Should I leave the dish properly aimed as it is now and unscrew the mount and LNB from the arm and just manually move it around back and forth along the arm and angle it more up or down with my hand and see the readings I get? My arm will be partially blocking the dish view of the sky though.....Hmm. I'm willing to try any suggestions.

Is there any definitive way I can test this LNB to see if it is indeed working optimally? If it isn't I need to ship it back today or tomorrow at latest and hope the ebay seller is easy to deal with.

ynnedibanez

Jun 10, 2010

user786 said:
Crazy idea....Should I leave the dish properly aimed as it is now and unscrew the mount and LNB from the arm and just manually move it around back and forth along the arm and angle it more up or down with my hand and see the readings I get? My arm will be partially blocking the dish view of the sky though.....Hmm. I'm willing to try any suggestions.

Is there any definitive way I can test this LNB to see if it is indeed working optimally? If it isn't I need to ship it back today or tomorrow at latest and hope the ebay seller is easy to deal with.

your "crazy idea" sounds quite logical to me:up:up

singkwan2004

Jun 11, 2010

user786 said:
OK I finally have SOME bit more positive news to share but still in trouble with why I am having problems.

I went and borrowed my neighbors linear LNB which is a known good LNB and stuck it on my arm mount and threw it up on the dish and aligned and found G19 within 3 minutes VERY easily. His is a basic VERY cheapy $10 linear LNB with 0.5 db noise rating. The one I have is supposed to be a better XTREME II from my research on this forum with 0.3 db noise rating. Hooray I got a bird with his cheapo LNB! I then proceeded to really fine tune and align the dish as perfectly as possible down to the oomph degree. The sad news that even with properly skewing the dish (I left the LNB at 0 and skewed the entire dish 26 degrees) I still was only getting a signal of 80 and a Quality of mid 30's at maximum. I really seriously fine tuned skew and tilt and direction and that was the absolute best on the strongest G19 transponder which for me happened to be 11898. Then I went inside and did a full blindscan and got about 20 to 30 channels only. All the channels on transponder 11898 worked fine in the mid 30 for quality but all the other transponders had quality of 10-12 and would not display a viewable video feed. Also many transpoders listed on lyngsat were plain missing. So anyway I saved the results of the blindscan and then went outside and very very carefully removed his LNB and very carefully replaced it with my XTREME II LNB and made sure to skew the LNB at zero using the marking on the side. Tightened up and very carefully refintuned everything and went back in side. Hooray I was able to detect and lock on G19 but the BAD news is my LNB was giving way LESS quality than his cheap junk. His LNB says 0.5 noise and mine says 0.3 noise. Yet on 11898 TP his LNB was getting 34-35 and mine is getting barely 10-12. On the other TP's where his was getting 10-12 mine is now fluctuating between 0-2. This is FRUSTRATING to say the least but I am patient and am keeping my cool and happily taking the challenge and tinkering along diligently and looking for more advice.

Everyone keeps saying that 30"x24" is more than big enough but I am not sure. I have a totally clear view of the sky. No lines, no trees, no houses, NOTHING at all in front of me. The only other thing could be that the LNB is not at the correct focal length on the arm of the dish or not at the correct focal point on the dish. I use the original Dish Network LNB and have everything on my custom mount and linear LNB pretty much exactly lined up with the specs from the Dish Network original LNB.

What else can I try? Why is his cheapo LNB getting better quality than my LNB?
But even his is getting max of mid 30's for quality? I am using the Viewsat Ultra (not Ultra Lite) with the original factory bin file from viewsatusa.com and the default sat file. I have used this STB for over a year on some other circular polarity stuff and it works just fine. I will confirm this by taking it over to my neighbors house later on and jacking into his dish just to make sure. As you can probably tell I am pretty technical and a very analytical thinker but there must be something simple I am missing due to lack of as much experience as you guys. Yes I can go out and buy a nice fat 39" dish and it may solve the problem but where is the challenge in that? I should be getting higher than mid 30's with my 30x24 and my good quality LNB right?

Help me pros. Help me. What am I missing??

Your LNBF maybe not good, remembered one time I got this same type of LNBF from distributor and all not work, have to got another model to replace those.
I am still thinking your LNBF pointing too high and the focal point is not quite correct. Thats why you could not get better quality from your neihbour cheap lnbf.

user786

Jun 11, 2010

ynnedibanez said:
your "crazy idea" sounds quite logical to me:up:up

Success at last !!!!!!!! Jim S and ynnedibanez hit the nail on the head.
I went outside and aimed the dish for the best possible signal I could get.
Then I unscrewed the lnb mount and freehand moved around up down forward back the LNB along the arm of the dish and boom I got q in the mid 30's and locked on solid to G19. I fine tuned everything and got the exact strongest spot and tigthened up the LNB, bent the mount bracket slightly and used 2 washers to raise it a little and what I have a lock on every G19 transponder listed on lyngsat. My strongest transponder is 12090 and I am getting S of 80 and Q of 65. A few transponders have a Q of 50 - 52 and most of the rest are aroun 35 - 37. I have fine tuned the skew and azimuth and elevation with extreme precision and tightened down everything. Do these Q numbers sound like what I should be getting on G19 from a dish500+ 30"x24" elliptical with an XTREME II LNB and a Viewsat Ultra STB from Florida 34741 area? Or am I still missing something else that should be getting me higher Q numbers?

Everyone's help was GREATLY appreciated. I feel like I am now ready to go out and conquer the rest of the sats in the sky

it will be lots of loosening and tightening and turning manually without a motor though.....At least I learnt the right way and hard way from experience now and even understand the extreme importance of focal point and focal length which I had zero experience on from before. Now I think I am well groomed and prepared to step up to better dish and LNB's and motor in the future when I can afford it. I will be going directly to a 90 cm dish I think.

So what is the sat with the most feeds I should try to aim at next with the most English language stuff on it? Don't forget to give some thoughts on my G19 signal and quality numbers I quoted above.

THANKS to all of you!

Tron

Jun 12, 2010

Glad you were able to improve the quality. Have you found the sweet spot? You should move the LNBF in and out from the dish, as well as slightly up and down to nail it down. When you are fabricating an LNBF holder, there's always a lot of experimentation to be done

... Just be sure to move the LNBF VERY slowly, and watch the quality meter as you do so. Have fun!

ynnedibanez

Jun 12, 2010

some of my favorite sats are, 30w, 83w, 97w, and 101w
on 30w, watch for cubavision and ktv2
cubavision is in spanish, but it shows good movies in english with spanish subtitles quite often, you just have to ignore the words in spanish at the bottom of the screen
same deal with ktv2 only the words are in arabic (i think its arabic anyway)
83w has rtv and tuff tv
you already know whats on 97w
101w has hist and bio (they scan in as test 11 and test 12)
you will likely find more, but we are not supposed to post channels that are not in one of the two links below in this forum, so ill leave that to you to find

you got plenty of fun scanning the skies ahead of you
these two links will give you info on some of what you can expect on each satellite
SatelliteGuys.US - TheList
Free TV from United States - LyngSat
and this one will help you find the sats,
Satellite Finder / Dish Pointing Calculator with Google Maps | DishPointer.com
have fun!!

Denny

delta_charlie

Jun 12, 2010

user786 said:
Success at last !!!!!!!! Jim S and ynnedibanez hit the nail on the head.
I went outside and aimed the dish for the best possible signal I could get.
Then I unscrewed the lnb mount and freehand moved around up down forward back the LNB along the arm of the dish and boom I got q in the mid 30's and locked on solid to G19. I fine tuned everything and got the exact strongest spot and tigthened up the LNB, bent the mount bracket slightly and used 2 washers to raise it a little and what I have a lock on every G19 transponder listed on lyngsat. My strongest transponder is 12090 and I am getting S of 80 and Q of 65. A few transponders have a Q of 50 - 52 and most of the rest are aroun 35 - 37. I have fine tuned the skew and azimuth and elevation with extreme precision and tightened down everything. Do these Q numbers sound like what I should be getting on G19 from a dish500+ 30"x24" elliptical with an XTREME II LNB and a Viewsat Ultra STB from Florida 34741 area? Or am I still missing something else that should be getting me higher Q numbers?

Everyone's help was GREATLY appreciated. I feel like I am now ready to go out and conquer the rest of the sats in the sky it will be lots of loosening and tightening and turning manually without a motor though.....At least I learnt the right way and hard way from experience now and even understand the extreme importance of focal point and focal length which I had zero experience on from before. Now I think I am well groomed and prepared to step up to better dish and LNB's and motor in the future when I can afford it. I will be going directly to a 90 cm dish I think.

So what is the sat with the most feeds I should try to aim at next with the most English language stuff on it? Don't forget to give some thoughts on my G19 signal and quality numbers I quoted above.

THANKS to all of you!

Good job! Glad to read you got it sorted out.

Regarding feeds - most of the sport feeds I run across are in HD or 4:2:2 so you would need a HD/4:2:2 receiver to display them.

Most of the news feeds are still in plain DVB SD. 99 west has the CBS Newspath feed and it has been showing the deep horizons oil well leak - can be very interesting to watch.

72 west might be another to checkout.

Enjoy, DC

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Volcanic Eruptions

Continuing the Kilauea thread in the Pub here. Perhaps the Iceland one too next time there's remarkable activity.

Currently there is precursory lava flowing into the crater, leading to the next episode that'll probably start within the next day.

You can see the pace of inflation / deflation here. It serves as the primary predictor for when the expect the eruptions, which coincide w/ inflation turning into significant deflation and last for several hours on average with significant fountaining.

Monitoring Data for Kīlauea

For more information on how electronic tiltmeters and GPS receivers help monitor the deformation of Kīlauea volcano, see the HVO Deformation page.

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Wife and I like the AfarTV feeds, for the discussion along w/ them, though they're otherwise just mirrors of the official USGS feeds.

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Gemini summary:

In this video from Shawn Willsey: Geology Explained, geology professor Shawn Willsey details rapid subsurface and surface changes at Kīlauea volcano in Hawaii:

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Oooo, quite the show now. All three vents have doming and overflows. The cone that built up around the North vent lost its upper quarter at 02:50 Oct 17 and is now spewing lava at a healthy rate. Don't know if I would say it's a fountain, but it's close.

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Whats for breakfast?

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Homemade Breakfast Sausage

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Today at 8:14 AM

Bob Evans Sage.

reubenray

Today at 8:41 AM

navychop said:
Bob Evans Sage.

I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.

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Swaggerty's isn't too bad, sausage prices are lower per lb than making my own from pork butts right now so I've been buying JC Potter or Owen lately.
(Swaggerty's at Sam's is pre cut, I usually partially freeze the rolls and cut with my slicer and vacuum seal on parchment paper)

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slow_poke_pete

Today at 8:47 AM

reubenray said:
I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.

amazon maybe :what

slow_poke_pete

Today at 8:52 AM

reubenray said:
I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.

owens on amazon is 54.99 for a 4 pk 16 oz a sausage. i feel that's kind of steep!!!

slow_poke_pete

Today at 8:54 AM

dfergie said:
Swaggerty's isn't too bad, sausage prices are lower per lb than making my own from pork butts right now so I've been buying JC Potter or Owen lately.
(Swaggerty's at Sam's is pre cut, I usually partially freeze the rolls and cut with my slicer and vacuum seal on parchment paper)

id'e rather make my own vs store bought.

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slow_poke_pete said:
owens on amazon is 54.99 for a 4 pk 16 oz a sausage. i feel that's kind of steep!!!

Especially when I can get a two pound roll of Jimmy Dean from Sam's Club for $7.38.

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They run Owens at $3.99 for lb and $7.99 a couple times a month at some grocery stores here, I actually was wrong, just checked a pork sirloin roast it was $1.99 a lb. (cooked it yesterday so pack was in trash)

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NCIS

Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?

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Tuesday at 6:25 PM

Jimbo said:
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?

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Thursday at 1:19 PM

Jimbo said:
Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?

Tony as the director.

Jimbo

Thursday at 2:13 PM

Howard Simmons said:
Tony as the director.

Would you rather have LaRoche ???

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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...

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Howard Simmons

Yesterday at 11:30 AM

Jimbo said:
Would you rather have LaRoche ???

No. Bring in someone new.

Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.

Jimbo

Yesterday at 12:50 PM

Howard Simmons said:
No. Bring in someone new. Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.

I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.

KAB

Today at 6:18 AM

I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.

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KAB said:
I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.

I'm curious how they are going to implement Tony into Origins (If they do) ...
Tony was introduced to Gibbs and the team, on NCIS, which makes it the Mothership side of things, he worked in Baltimore prior to NCIS, NO mention when they met that anyone had known one another ...

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