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Last reply · posted in DIRECTV General Forum
I'll try to keep this short...

We live in a HOA-governed condo community, and drilling is not permitted for satellite installations. Our deck (we live in a second floor unit) is not all that big (11x 6.) I informed DTV of this when I ordered HD, and they told me "no problem.. the dish will mounted on a 9ft. poll or tripod."

Wrong.

DTV Installer #1 comes out, installs a 3x3 steel platform, held down by cinder blocks, with the dish rising all of 2 feet up, essentially taking up 20-25% of our deck. I complain to DTV, so out comes Installer #2 who says there's no other option. I then ask DTV to get out of the contract, and not surprisingly, they say "no... you're past the 24 hour window."

Installer #3 is due here next Thursday, and I'm hoping/praying that there is some other option available to us to get this thing mounted so that the dish at least extends a couple of feel above the deck railing.

I'm just not sure where to turn, and I'm hoping you folks can help. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
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W
Above you said they were going to install on a pole, then you said WRONG, so I took it that you were not allowed a pole mount.

I'm actually permitted to have a pole mount, but they wouldn't install it that way. No holes can be drilled into the building, but non-penetrating mounts, tripods, and poles, are OK.


Then they brought out a second option, one that does not effect the building structure and you said TOO BIG.

I wasn't aware that a poll mount would require drilling a hole into the building... I called Dish Network as well, told them my issue, and said that yes, HD dishes can be installed on such poles. I also see that another resident has a 9ft. pole on his deck though I'm not certain whether it's an HD or standard dish.


What exactly were you wanting them to do?

What they told me they would do... that being a tripod or pole, not a steel platform that takes up 25% of my deck.


I have a Slimline 3 dish on a 16' pole supported at the roof line.
This has worked great for 5 years now.



How is it supported at the roof line?
W
By the way, I'm not locked into the idea of a 9 ft. pole... but would like to know if the 3x3 steel platform I mentioned above would support a 3-5 foot pole that would place the dish itself above the railing and slightly out of the way of people standing on the deck.
Jimbo
Above you said they were going to install on a pole, then you said WRONG, so I took it that you were not allowed a pole mount.

I'm actually permitted to have a pole mount, but they wouldn't install it that way. No holes can be drilled into the building, but non-penetrating mounts, tripods, and poles, are OK.


Then they brought out a second option, one that does not effect the building structure and you said TOO BIG.

I wasn't aware that a poll mount would require drilling a hole into the building... I called Dish Network as well, told them my issue, and said that yes, HD dishes can be installed on such poles. I also see that another resident has a 9ft. pole on his deck though I'm not certain whether it's an HD or standard dish.


What exactly were you wanting them to do?

What they told me they would do... that being a tripod or pole, not a steel platform that takes up 25% of my deck.


I have a Slimline 3 dish on a 16' pole supported at the roof line.
This has worked great for 5 years now.



How is it supported at the roof line?

Lag bolts and welds.
You can't do that as you cant permanantly support anything to the building.

Here's an idea, look around the buildings and see if you see cable coax supported on the building anywhere, IF you do, you should be able to have a pole mounted and a coax run up to your location.
harshness
DTV Installer #1 comes out, installs a 3x3 steel platform, held down by cinder blocks, with the dish rising all of 2 feet up, essentially taking up 20-25% of our deck.
This is what I would have done.

Gravity is your lone ally in the quest for a stable mount. You can't clamp it to anything and there's no amount of zip ties or duct tape that is going to be reliable long-term. The non-penetrating requirement prevents the installer from screwing or nailing down a tripod. You could try dragging a thick piece of steel plate up there, but you would have to weld the mount to the plate (or have the plate counterbored).

In any case, the dish is big and whether the pile of blocks is 2" or 2' high, you're going to want to stay well away from it to avoid moving or damaging the dish.

The big question I have for you is: did you sign for the installation? If you signed off the you're getting the services you subscribed to, the installation is complete and you're on your own to clean it up.
Jimbo
By the way, I'm not locked into the idea of a 9 ft. pole... but would like to know if the 3x3 steel platform I mentioned above would support a 3-5 foot pole that would place the dish itself above the railing and slightly out of the way of people standing on the deck.

I would say YES a 3x3 Steel platform would work fine.
They also mentioned a Tripod, the tripod would be larger than the platform I would think.
W
They also mentioned a Tripod, the tripod would be larger than the platform I would think.

True, but the #1 goal here is to get the dish high enough off the deck so that it's not interfering with everything else.
osu1991
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club

The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.


:eek


It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.
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meStevo

Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.

So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.​
harshness
The EV company to watch out for is SAIC. They seem likely to take over Government Motors at some point.

GM originally struck a JV deal with SAIC to gain access to China. Now SAIC has taken China back with the substantial library of technology GM shared and they're looking to export to Mexico, South America, the Middle East, and Asia-Pacific.
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harshness
If it weren't for the sky-high electricity prices...

Of course, the real scare with Winter coming is the insane cost of heating oil.
dfergie
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby
Regular$5.999​
Premium$6.399​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
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Regular$5.999​
Premium$6.399​
Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.

Last night it was about $4.17 gas, $6,19 diesel.
harshness
Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.
On the West Coast, a 40-cent differential is common. It used to be 30 cents before the prices rose above $3.

A "full dollar more" sounds like it may be boat gas (non-alcoholic), which is a whole different discussion.
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Here in Indiana, the difference between Regular and Premium is usually a dollar, but some charge even more:
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A "full dollar more" sounds like it may be boat gas (non-alcoholic),
Both non-ethanol and prem run about the same....buck more. When we were up in TN it was a buck more up there as well.
harshness
In Oregon, our premium boat gas is about a dollar more than our corn premium. Several stations only offer the non-corn premium grade.
Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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See Me Feel Me - The Who
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Take It Easy On Me - Little River Band
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TAKE IT As It Comes-The Doors
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Take It To The Limit - The Eagles
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Take It To The Limit - The Eagles
The two instances of "The" should have been highlighted.

Take
Me to the River - Talking Heads
SuperDish_Fan23
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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dishdude
They didn't sell many, they were pricey and not out long. Quickly got replaced by the Hopper.
T
They were high-end specialty, somewhat buggy and the 612/622/722 just overwhelmed it in popularity.
HipKat
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
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AZ.
Well if it is because of reliability that wouldnt shock me.I went through 5 or 6 of them in little over 2 years. I loved the Sling when it worked! Saved lots of money having it in the day. That was probably 15 or 16 years ago?
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teachsac
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!
Last reply · posted in TV Shows
Hondo is back with a new squad 9/25 only on Starz.


View: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/b0gPzA8KHEQ
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TRG
Pass,
K
Never watched the previous shows, so doubtful.
teachsac
Started watching yesterday. Not too bad.
Scott Greczkowski
Wife likes it.
Former member 208119
Last reply · posted in SiriusXM Satellite Radio
My year was almost up and we got the new bill for a year of service for $ 360.00 insane sat radio is becoming like cable!!! i logged into my acct and hopped onto chat and told the rep that i wanted to cancel. she understood my concern and went quiet for a few minutes. i figured that she was canceling my service. she comes back and said that she seen that i have been a sub since 07 and then offers me the same package for a year for 120.00 with taxes and fee's!!! i grabbed it. after almost having a stroke :biggrin
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What i noticed with my last renewal XM is now billing me $4.99 monthly instead of one time yearly payment.
Jimbo
What i noticed with my last renewal XM is now billing me $.99 monthly instead of one time yearly payment.
Did you accidentally get on the wrong plan ?
I still do the once a year plans.
B
Did you accidentally get on the wrong plan ?
I still do the once a year plans.
I have to think maybe more people dont keep track of the monthly XM bill. Every time i renew i put a reminder on my calendar week before its time to renew. My wife told me the other day not to renew her and then i told her you are not going to be able to listen to XM at home. Then she changed her mind...!!
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I have to think maybe more people dont keep track of the monthly XM bill. Every time i renew i put a reminder on my calendar week before its time to renew. My wife told me the other day not to renew her and then i told her you are not going to be able to listen to XM at home. Then she changed her mind...!!
I get an e-mail every month reminding me that X amount will be charged to my credit card. If I see it go up I get on chat or pick up the phone. But I also remember that my year is up in December.
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I get an e-mail every month reminding me that X amount will be charged to my credit card. If I see it go up I get on chat or pick up the phone. But I also remember that my year is up in December.
yea i don't understand WHY, like you I get a notice each month. Mine is also up in December.
Jimbo
yea i don't understand WHY, like you I get a notice each month. Mine is also up in December.
You get an email every month to let you know they are billing you for the next month.
Foxbat
Mrs. Foxbat reminded me it's that time of the year to do the Cancel Tango💃🏽

The A.I. agent appears to be better than in the past. It got to the acceptable price quicker than previous years, no human operator involved. $5/mo and I still have over $50 in SiriusXM credit from my FordPartner benefits.
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Jimbo
Mrs. Foxbat reminded me it's that time of the year to do the Cancel Tango💃🏽

The A.I. agent appears to be better than in the past. It got to the acceptable price quicker than previous years, no human operator involved. $5/mo and I still have over $50 in SiriusXM credit from my FordPartner benefits.
I forgot you can pay that with Ford Pass points, I won't be due again till Feb, but I'll have to remember to try it ... Not sure what needs to be done, but I do have a substantial amount of points currently.
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jamieh1
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum
The new curated multiview is now live.
While on many of the sports channels and non sports channels there is a multi view option button. It will pull up a side bar with many different multi view options.
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K
It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.
b4pjoe
It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.
But not on the only device they ship out right now which is the Gemini Air.
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TheRatPatrol
It's now expanded to a Build Your Own Multiview, currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen.
How soon will it be available on Apple TV? Thanks
I WANT MORE
But not on the only device they ship out right now which is the Gemini Air.
It's on my Air's.
b4pjoe
It's on my Air's.
The post read: "currently available to streaming customers with Geminis and Roku, and coming soon to Android TV, Fire TV, Vizio, LG, Apple TV and Tizen". It didn't mention the Air. I suppose when it said Geminis it meant both but I had no way of knowing that.
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Hopefully soon for fire stick too
Peter Parker
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
No idea what improvements might be involved.
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bookworm370
Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.
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Bobby
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
This has been an ongoing issue. A fix is coming, probably in the next software version.
Foxbat
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"
Here's the one I need:
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dishstaller
Here's the one I need:
Just ordered one....that's great.