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Preface:
I am doing this little writeup to capture my personal experiences with both Dish and Direct and am doing so for information and entertainment purposes only. Dish loyalists and Direct loyalists are not about to be swayed by my simple observations and that is really not the point. It should be noted that I have less than a weeks use with Direct as opposed to 13 months with Dish, so some Direct features or shorcomings may have not even been discovered yet. Some inaccuracies are expected. That said, I found some key differences in the two services that some may find useful, especially those looking for new service or a possible switch.
I tried very hard to be as unbiased as possible but obviously having left Dish for Direct, it would disingenuous to not disclose that I left for cause and even paid a termination fee to do so. I will add though, that I was never unhappy with the Dish service, just their policies and inflexibility in supporting the 5 HD signals that I required when I did two new room additions (rec room and home theatre). While I acknowledge that Dish has better equipment (read 922's) than I used they were not able to provide these to me at anything close to a reasonable cost. I can only compare what I used then and now.
Old Dish Setup: One 722 using SD Duo and one 222 using SD Duo. America's Top 250 service and sports package add on. Total Bill was $112 after fees.
New Direct Setup: Two HR-24s, 3 HD Receivers. Premeire package with MRV, Sunday Ticket and HD Extra Pack. Total Bill is $85.99 for 12 months and will raise to around $125 after that (at which time I will drop down a tier).
So with that out of the way, here is my humble comparison:
Initial Observations - Before we compare service, signal, functionality, pq, et al. I would like to state that the Direct Service does make it much easier/cost efficient to support multiple HD signals (read >2). If you only need 1-2 HD signals then this is probably a non factor for you, but having a setup to accommodate a larger household may be important to some. I was able to get 2 HD DVRs and 3 HD receivers with MRV for significantly less than my Dish setup which provided 2 HD signals and 2 SD signals plus a single DVR. I believe if you have a requirement for 4 or more HD signals, then Direct will be the better value, while at 3 or less the decision becomes much more personal.
Interface:
Dish: I had obviously grown very accustomed to the Dish interface and really enjoyed the layout and the breakdown of DVR space availability by hours. Also the search while a little less powerful is easier to use for people just wanting something that is fast and efficient. Dish does that. I also prefer the Dish system of sorting programs and the listing of episode numbers. Managing your programs seems less intuitive with Dish however. In just 3 days, I felt more comfortable with the Direct system interface for managing programs than I did in 13 months with Dish. Score 7
Direct: The Direct menus are a bit sharper and the program search and data available is clearly more powerful. The power seems to come at a price however. While I got pretty handy with the system, which is good, it is clear to me that it takes a few more button presses to get the extra data or even execute the basic functions. This is inherent with the added search capability. For me personally, this is better but my kids and wife will probably disagree. So if simplier/faster is key for you, then Dish might get the nod. However I enjoy the added capabilities. I do however take a point off what might be a near perfect interface because while I love the layout and power of the filmography and advanced search abilities, Direct does not appear to list episode numbers on recorded shows which I find unfortunate as it makes catching up on my old House episodes more difficult. Score 9
DVR Hardware:
Dish: I used the 722 which is a fine model. This model does look to use older technology in general. I say this mainly from the size of the unit which is big and bulky. No real complaints on the functionality save for the fact that the "Duo" feature is really becoming obsolete unless you are OK with an SD signal in 2010. For some this is fine, but given the monthly fee associated with this box ($17 per month) you definitely "feel" like you are paying for the Duo use. Dish has a 922 that appears to be pretty slick, but I have had no exposure to it and Dish wanted an arm and a leg to acquire one. Score 6
Direct: The HR-24s definitely give off the "wow" vibe. These units are about 1/2 of the size of the 722 and have a cool looking lighted blue face. The buttons are touch sensitive (like the new xbox 360) and just feel very 2010. HR-24s also have DECA built in to the unit. Adding the MRV to the picture really puts Direct over the top here (again only if that is important to you). Score 9
Channel Lineup:
Dish: This is a very subjective facet of the comparison because if the service has or does not have a channel that you love, then the impact is great. I can acknowledge that Direct has more "real" HD channels but the channel that I loved from Dish was NFL Redzone which was $5 per month as part of the sports package, while I would have to pay $300-400 (or $30-40 per month) to get NFL Redzone as part of the Sunday Ticket package. This was a big deal to me, but will not matter to some customers that either A) do not like sports or B) would be getting and watching Sunday Ticket over Redzone anyway. I am probably in the minority as somone who loves NFL football but actually would rather watch Redzone. I also understand that Dish lost Disney HD if that matters to you. Score 8
Direct: For someone that wants NFL Sunday Ticket for example, Direct is a no brainer and probably scores a 10. However the lack of a decoupled Redzone, which in fact is just a way to "force" NFL fans to buy ST is greedy (perhaps contractual, but greedy nonetheless). This score is going to be all over the board for each person, so my recommendation is to look at the channel lineups and make your decision. For me, Dish still edges Direct just becuse of the Redzone issue. Score 7
Value:
Dish: For someone looking for 1-2 HD signals that can live with SD as well, Dish provides a better value. This may not have been my personal experience as I was paying "full boat" (read MSRP) on most items but they are/can be comparable, especially to new subs. That said be aware of the DVR lease fees from Dish which start at a minimum of $7 and go to $17 per month PER UNIT. This was the real deal breaker for me. Also note that Dish simply will not lease more than 3 hardware devices, period, end of discussion. Score 3
Direct: I do not know if it has always been this way but Direct offers a flat $5 per month DVR lease fee. Plus the first unit is not charged. This makes all the difference in the world when wanting a couple of DVRs and say 5 HD signals in total. If you are OK with SD and base models from Dish then the price difference is minimal (Dish would be $2 more per month per unit). But when you start looking at the high end stuff, we are talking about Dish demanding $12 more per unit per month. Score 8
You will notice that I do not score this facet based on my Dish versus Direct bill. That is because I got a ton of discounts in the first year with Direct and that is simply not fair, because Dish would probably do the same for a new customer. I paid MSRP from Dish which was unfortunate, but in the end these two services cost almost the same (in fact Dish is slightly cheaper) in terms of channel service. It is the "fees" where Dish gouges you.
Customer Service:
I will not separate these into scores because my experience was very biased and unfortunate. After 13 months with Dish, they simply did not want to keep my business and therefore offered me very little to stay, in fact forcing me to look to Direct (which did not even cross my mind the day I called Dish to order more boxes). The fact is, I do not blame them at all as I am now convinced that Dish is looking to target the "lower tier" of Satellite consumers (in terms of need... not starting a class war or making any user statement). I simply fell out of thier demographic. Dish offers a slightly cheaper service that has comparable channels and PQ. The differences in terms of service is almost transparent and will be to many users. I seem to feel like Direct has better PQ but it is so close that I am not even sure it matters to most.
Overall there clearly is no winner across all demographics. I see it as Direct = Upper Tier and Dish = Lower Tier (technology based). However each consumer will prioritize what is important to them and in many cases Dish will indeed fit the bill. In my year plus with them, there service was reliable and enjoyable and had I not started to build a home theatre and have some "high end" needs, I would likely still be with Dish.
That said, Direct clearly scales much better with HD and HT needs and saves you money on the service fees that Dish uses as a true revenue stream.
I am doing this little writeup to capture my personal experiences with both Dish and Direct and am doing so for information and entertainment purposes only. Dish loyalists and Direct loyalists are not about to be swayed by my simple observations and that is really not the point. It should be noted that I have less than a weeks use with Direct as opposed to 13 months with Dish, so some Direct features or shorcomings may have not even been discovered yet. Some inaccuracies are expected. That said, I found some key differences in the two services that some may find useful, especially those looking for new service or a possible switch.
I tried very hard to be as unbiased as possible but obviously having left Dish for Direct, it would disingenuous to not disclose that I left for cause and even paid a termination fee to do so. I will add though, that I was never unhappy with the Dish service, just their policies and inflexibility in supporting the 5 HD signals that I required when I did two new room additions (rec room and home theatre). While I acknowledge that Dish has better equipment (read 922's) than I used they were not able to provide these to me at anything close to a reasonable cost. I can only compare what I used then and now.
Old Dish Setup: One 722 using SD Duo and one 222 using SD Duo. America's Top 250 service and sports package add on. Total Bill was $112 after fees.
New Direct Setup: Two HR-24s, 3 HD Receivers. Premeire package with MRV, Sunday Ticket and HD Extra Pack. Total Bill is $85.99 for 12 months and will raise to around $125 after that (at which time I will drop down a tier).
So with that out of the way, here is my humble comparison:
Initial Observations - Before we compare service, signal, functionality, pq, et al. I would like to state that the Direct Service does make it much easier/cost efficient to support multiple HD signals (read >2). If you only need 1-2 HD signals then this is probably a non factor for you, but having a setup to accommodate a larger household may be important to some. I was able to get 2 HD DVRs and 3 HD receivers with MRV for significantly less than my Dish setup which provided 2 HD signals and 2 SD signals plus a single DVR. I believe if you have a requirement for 4 or more HD signals, then Direct will be the better value, while at 3 or less the decision becomes much more personal.
Interface:
Dish: I had obviously grown very accustomed to the Dish interface and really enjoyed the layout and the breakdown of DVR space availability by hours. Also the search while a little less powerful is easier to use for people just wanting something that is fast and efficient. Dish does that. I also prefer the Dish system of sorting programs and the listing of episode numbers. Managing your programs seems less intuitive with Dish however. In just 3 days, I felt more comfortable with the Direct system interface for managing programs than I did in 13 months with Dish. Score 7
Direct: The Direct menus are a bit sharper and the program search and data available is clearly more powerful. The power seems to come at a price however. While I got pretty handy with the system, which is good, it is clear to me that it takes a few more button presses to get the extra data or even execute the basic functions. This is inherent with the added search capability. For me personally, this is better but my kids and wife will probably disagree. So if simplier/faster is key for you, then Dish might get the nod. However I enjoy the added capabilities. I do however take a point off what might be a near perfect interface because while I love the layout and power of the filmography and advanced search abilities, Direct does not appear to list episode numbers on recorded shows which I find unfortunate as it makes catching up on my old House episodes more difficult. Score 9
DVR Hardware:
Dish: I used the 722 which is a fine model. This model does look to use older technology in general. I say this mainly from the size of the unit which is big and bulky. No real complaints on the functionality save for the fact that the "Duo" feature is really becoming obsolete unless you are OK with an SD signal in 2010. For some this is fine, but given the monthly fee associated with this box ($17 per month) you definitely "feel" like you are paying for the Duo use. Dish has a 922 that appears to be pretty slick, but I have had no exposure to it and Dish wanted an arm and a leg to acquire one. Score 6
Direct: The HR-24s definitely give off the "wow" vibe. These units are about 1/2 of the size of the 722 and have a cool looking lighted blue face. The buttons are touch sensitive (like the new xbox 360) and just feel very 2010. HR-24s also have DECA built in to the unit. Adding the MRV to the picture really puts Direct over the top here (again only if that is important to you). Score 9
Channel Lineup:
Dish: This is a very subjective facet of the comparison because if the service has or does not have a channel that you love, then the impact is great. I can acknowledge that Direct has more "real" HD channels but the channel that I loved from Dish was NFL Redzone which was $5 per month as part of the sports package, while I would have to pay $300-400 (or $30-40 per month) to get NFL Redzone as part of the Sunday Ticket package. This was a big deal to me, but will not matter to some customers that either A) do not like sports or B) would be getting and watching Sunday Ticket over Redzone anyway. I am probably in the minority as somone who loves NFL football but actually would rather watch Redzone. I also understand that Dish lost Disney HD if that matters to you. Score 8
Direct: For someone that wants NFL Sunday Ticket for example, Direct is a no brainer and probably scores a 10. However the lack of a decoupled Redzone, which in fact is just a way to "force" NFL fans to buy ST is greedy (perhaps contractual, but greedy nonetheless). This score is going to be all over the board for each person, so my recommendation is to look at the channel lineups and make your decision. For me, Dish still edges Direct just becuse of the Redzone issue. Score 7
Value:
Dish: For someone looking for 1-2 HD signals that can live with SD as well, Dish provides a better value. This may not have been my personal experience as I was paying "full boat" (read MSRP) on most items but they are/can be comparable, especially to new subs. That said be aware of the DVR lease fees from Dish which start at a minimum of $7 and go to $17 per month PER UNIT. This was the real deal breaker for me. Also note that Dish simply will not lease more than 3 hardware devices, period, end of discussion. Score 3
Direct: I do not know if it has always been this way but Direct offers a flat $5 per month DVR lease fee. Plus the first unit is not charged. This makes all the difference in the world when wanting a couple of DVRs and say 5 HD signals in total. If you are OK with SD and base models from Dish then the price difference is minimal (Dish would be $2 more per month per unit). But when you start looking at the high end stuff, we are talking about Dish demanding $12 more per unit per month. Score 8
You will notice that I do not score this facet based on my Dish versus Direct bill. That is because I got a ton of discounts in the first year with Direct and that is simply not fair, because Dish would probably do the same for a new customer. I paid MSRP from Dish which was unfortunate, but in the end these two services cost almost the same (in fact Dish is slightly cheaper) in terms of channel service. It is the "fees" where Dish gouges you.
Customer Service:
I will not separate these into scores because my experience was very biased and unfortunate. After 13 months with Dish, they simply did not want to keep my business and therefore offered me very little to stay, in fact forcing me to look to Direct (which did not even cross my mind the day I called Dish to order more boxes). The fact is, I do not blame them at all as I am now convinced that Dish is looking to target the "lower tier" of Satellite consumers (in terms of need... not starting a class war or making any user statement). I simply fell out of thier demographic. Dish offers a slightly cheaper service that has comparable channels and PQ. The differences in terms of service is almost transparent and will be to many users. I seem to feel like Direct has better PQ but it is so close that I am not even sure it matters to most.
Overall there clearly is no winner across all demographics. I see it as Direct = Upper Tier and Dish = Lower Tier (technology based). However each consumer will prioritize what is important to them and in many cases Dish will indeed fit the bill. In my year plus with them, there service was reliable and enjoyable and had I not started to build a home theatre and have some "high end" needs, I would likely still be with Dish.
That said, Direct clearly scales much better with HD and HT needs and saves you money on the service fees that Dish uses as a true revenue stream.
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Howdy folks long time no write.
Issue(s): Horizontal transponders (esp. Weigel mux) breakup/mosaic/sputtering audio, JTV less so (but received perfectly up until a month or so ago.
Vertical is fine (Daystar). Up until recently couldn't even get any signal on Weigel Mux but JTV was perfect.
What I did to improve things: A slight westward move improved reception but only slightly (approx 72 on the micro HD, sorry no dB to post). I removed the 3-way C-Band splitter and used a 2-way to get a 1-2 db signal gain ( the power port goes to the Startrak - the micro HD doesn't have enough juice ! (1st clue) even after swapping the switching power supply it came with with a heftier linear 12 V supply (less RFI too !).
I have had issues with the uHD before signal breaking up that a reboot would clear up (clue #2 = dying tuner?) - FYI, I reinforced the IF input and removed all flux from the pcb completely with a Flux Removal Pen (MG Chemicals Cat No. 4140-P) which definitely makes a huge difference.
I went outside and pushed and pulled reflector slightly and no improvement. Pole (actually tower in yard - the neighbours love me..NOT) is plumb, checked with carpenters level. Dish was last peaked in 2017 or so, after overhauling 24" Von Weise, new Acme, fresh grease, etc. Focal length, f/d ratio etc meticulously adjusted. One panel has a tear so planning to repair that this weekend when my cousin comes over ( to help me out (old guy here) forecast calls for sunshine.
What has changed: My utility company has installed new high tension line poles (one smack dab in the middle of 101°W target! But they put it in last year and reception (of JTV (HOR) at least) was fine, BUT when they came out to transfer the wires over this year from the old (sawed in half) pole that's about when the troubles started (coincidence?), but again Daystar (VER) was fine. I always had this pole in the light of sight of 101° before with no issues. (fyi my zenith sat 74° is unobstucted, but can't test)
In the meantime Weigel mux is trying to break in MOSTLY in LATE at night (less cell usage?) (audio not video except for a frame here or there) so don't know what has changed with this mux which suddenly "woke up". I have never had to fuss with dish moves on this satellite ( the slightest move +/- motor clicks loses lock, wheres normally on C-band I can go significantly wider east or west and still have a strong signal ( have these gone "spot beam" or narrower somehow and what is the slight difference in Az listed on Lyngsat to 100.9° affect things ( isn't that the declination i.e. requiring a tweak of declination?).
Long story short (too late, ha), if I had another DVB-S2 box to try and / or a newer more stable PLL lnb ( I have been meaning to upgrade many a time but never got arround to it) I could determine if it's my antiquated receiving equipment, or my dish/feed alignment ( doubtful as it tracks everything from 55 °W to 133 ° W nicely.) or the dreaded 5G! (BUT only on HOR and not VER?).
I read another post where the OP (with his smaller 7.5 footer) played around with the illumination to peak desired transponder and reduce qrm on interfering/ stronger xpndrs (even on 103° W). So will play with that too - and cut away the RG-6 a and pull up a fresh section with new PPC and coax Seal. Open the throat cap see if any cobwebs are there and check servo operation (also changed in last maintence 10 years ago).
Finally, this will probably be the last chance I get to play with the BUD from the looks of it (providers leaving, auctioning off rest of spectrum imminent above 4.0 Ghz, and to keep the peace with neighbours so it would be nice to have that mux back for the long, cold and dark winters to comfort this old man before I call it quits and buy a VHF/UHF/FM Yagi and get MeTV, H&I from my Vermont local stations (checked at a friends today and they come in nicely - except ABC) .
Only one guy in town (Montreal) I may be able to get a receiver or PLL lnb from to try (RPS Sat) so hopefully with elimnate that as a possible culprit. Be nice to pick up a cheap or used PLL lnb to try w/o 5G BPF (money is tight )
Like others I couldn't care less about "tv" (well maybe just a liitle or a lot) it's the challenge that excites me , I can get MeTV other ways OTA (no pirate crap).
So what do you guys (and gals) think ?. p.s. I don't have a spectrum analyzer and there are def/ cell towers nearby (half a Km or so away).
Oh and time permitting will hammer out dings too and wire damaged mesh on one section for an extra dB or two. Hesitate to touch Declination, Elevation and pole mount but will play around with those a little too... Why is this mux for finicky suddenly ?(8psk, 5/6 fec, beamwidthetc.. man wish they went back to VER I think everthing would be fine! For the engineers out here does 5G QRM affect one poliarization (HOR) more than another (VER)? I understand the strong interference swamps out the input mixer/local oscilator in the hapless old C-band lnb (I think it at time affect KU too esp. LPB on 101°W KU - incidentally thos were weak or "gone' but are back almost at the time MeTV improved..hmm Terrestrial interference?
Any thoughts or suggestions ( cheap or free solutions please) greatly appreciated. Cheers.
p.p.s. Micro HD can't display Decades and Toons but records them fine so I can watch on another box/media player (Ali chip set issue). Another reason to upgrade.
Anybody interested in a nice C/KU system free ? (for next Spring/Summer 2027)
[Sami 10' mesh, Corotor II+, Eagle Aspen (very old) C-band lnb, Norsat Ku lnb, Channel Master C/Ku (H/V) switch, Startrak 400 Analog receiver w/ motor control, Geosat uHD DVD-S2, CW600S for Mpeg-2]
Issue(s): Horizontal transponders (esp. Weigel mux) breakup/mosaic/sputtering audio, JTV less so (but received perfectly up until a month or so ago.
Vertical is fine (Daystar). Up until recently couldn't even get any signal on Weigel Mux but JTV was perfect.
What I did to improve things: A slight westward move improved reception but only slightly (approx 72 on the micro HD, sorry no dB to post). I removed the 3-way C-Band splitter and used a 2-way to get a 1-2 db signal gain ( the power port goes to the Startrak - the micro HD doesn't have enough juice ! (1st clue) even after swapping the switching power supply it came with with a heftier linear 12 V supply (less RFI too !).
I have had issues with the uHD before signal breaking up that a reboot would clear up (clue #2 = dying tuner?) - FYI, I reinforced the IF input and removed all flux from the pcb completely with a Flux Removal Pen (MG Chemicals Cat No. 4140-P) which definitely makes a huge difference.
I went outside and pushed and pulled reflector slightly and no improvement. Pole (actually tower in yard - the neighbours love me..NOT) is plumb, checked with carpenters level. Dish was last peaked in 2017 or so, after overhauling 24" Von Weise, new Acme, fresh grease, etc. Focal length, f/d ratio etc meticulously adjusted. One panel has a tear so planning to repair that this weekend when my cousin comes over ( to help me out (old guy here) forecast calls for sunshine.
What has changed: My utility company has installed new high tension line poles (one smack dab in the middle of 101°W target! But they put it in last year and reception (of JTV (HOR) at least) was fine, BUT when they came out to transfer the wires over this year from the old (sawed in half) pole that's about when the troubles started (coincidence?), but again Daystar (VER) was fine. I always had this pole in the light of sight of 101° before with no issues. (fyi my zenith sat 74° is unobstucted, but can't test)
In the meantime Weigel mux is trying to break in MOSTLY in LATE at night (less cell usage?) (audio not video except for a frame here or there) so don't know what has changed with this mux which suddenly "woke up". I have never had to fuss with dish moves on this satellite ( the slightest move +/- motor clicks loses lock, wheres normally on C-band I can go significantly wider east or west and still have a strong signal ( have these gone "spot beam" or narrower somehow and what is the slight difference in Az listed on Lyngsat to 100.9° affect things ( isn't that the declination i.e. requiring a tweak of declination?).
Long story short (too late, ha), if I had another DVB-S2 box to try and / or a newer more stable PLL lnb ( I have been meaning to upgrade many a time but never got arround to it) I could determine if it's my antiquated receiving equipment, or my dish/feed alignment ( doubtful as it tracks everything from 55 °W to 133 ° W nicely.) or the dreaded 5G! (BUT only on HOR and not VER?).
I read another post where the OP (with his smaller 7.5 footer) played around with the illumination to peak desired transponder and reduce qrm on interfering/ stronger xpndrs (even on 103° W). So will play with that too - and cut away the RG-6 a and pull up a fresh section with new PPC and coax Seal. Open the throat cap see if any cobwebs are there and check servo operation (also changed in last maintence 10 years ago).
Finally, this will probably be the last chance I get to play with the BUD from the looks of it (providers leaving, auctioning off rest of spectrum imminent above 4.0 Ghz, and to keep the peace with neighbours so it would be nice to have that mux back for the long, cold and dark winters to comfort this old man before I call it quits and buy a VHF/UHF/FM Yagi and get MeTV, H&I from my Vermont local stations (checked at a friends today and they come in nicely - except ABC) .
Only one guy in town (Montreal) I may be able to get a receiver or PLL lnb from to try (RPS Sat) so hopefully with elimnate that as a possible culprit. Be nice to pick up a cheap or used PLL lnb to try w/o 5G BPF (money is tight )
Like others I couldn't care less about "tv" (well maybe just a liitle or a lot) it's the challenge that excites me , I can get MeTV other ways OTA (no pirate crap).
So what do you guys (and gals) think ?. p.s. I don't have a spectrum analyzer and there are def/ cell towers nearby (half a Km or so away).
Oh and time permitting will hammer out dings too and wire damaged mesh on one section for an extra dB or two. Hesitate to touch Declination, Elevation and pole mount but will play around with those a little too... Why is this mux for finicky suddenly ?(8psk, 5/6 fec, beamwidthetc.. man wish they went back to VER I think everthing would be fine! For the engineers out here does 5G QRM affect one poliarization (HOR) more than another (VER)? I understand the strong interference swamps out the input mixer/local oscilator in the hapless old C-band lnb (I think it at time affect KU too esp. LPB on 101°W KU - incidentally thos were weak or "gone' but are back almost at the time MeTV improved..hmm Terrestrial interference?
Any thoughts or suggestions ( cheap or free solutions please) greatly appreciated. Cheers.
p.p.s. Micro HD can't display Decades and Toons but records them fine so I can watch on another box/media player (Ali chip set issue). Another reason to upgrade.
Anybody interested in a nice C/KU system free ? (for next Spring/Summer 2027)
[Sami 10' mesh, Corotor II+, Eagle Aspen (very old) C-band lnb, Norsat Ku lnb, Channel Master C/Ku (H/V) switch, Startrak 400 Analog receiver w/ motor control, Geosat uHD DVD-S2, CW600S for Mpeg-2]
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With the microHD connected this afternoon and tuned to the Weigel mux, I can receive the mux well.
My conclusion is that the sensitivity of the receivers in descending order of sensitivity is as follows:
My conclusion is that the sensitivity of the receivers in descending order of sensitivity is as follows:
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The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
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An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
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Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties
Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.
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Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties
Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.
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Can we expect to see a new coach if we say "pretty please?"
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
Colts relieve general manager Chris Ballard of his duties
Colts Owner & CEO Carlie Irsay-Gordon released a statement Monday announcing the news.
Can we expect to see a new coach if we say "pretty please?"
I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.
Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
Source Gateworld
Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.
Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
Source Gateworld
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Picked up a sweet directv dish, mount, twin lnbs and a short cable.
Has anyone converted one to FTA? A Frankenstein of sorts...
Has anyone converted one to FTA? A Frankenstein of sorts...
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Many of us have used a universal LNBF mount (or get creative with L brackets and plumbers tape - perforated metal strapping). Use a few inches of aluminum tube (or a piece of 1x2" lumber) to extend the support arm (replacing the plastic mount used by DirecTV and Dish) to place the LNBF throat opening at the correct distance from the reflector, the correct height and at the correct angle. Nothing magical... simply place the new linear LNBF in the center at the same distance, height and angle as the current combo.
www.amazon.com/Universal-Single-Bracket-Holder-FTA-US/dp/B074L85WK2
www.amazon.com/Universal-Single-Bracket-Holder-FTA-US/dp/B074L85WK2
To add: 101W Ku seems to be (one of if not the) strongest for me, and if I only had Ku I definitely want 101W for the music mux, it's robust FEC and strong signal help a lot. I've thought about using a used Dish/DirectTV dish at my Dads to supplement his OTA (mainly for my benefit when I visit 
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No idea what improvements might be involved.
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