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Some long time owned subs are fed up and finally leaving in droves / so how to fix the dish bag network to prevent further losses.
I have been a dish net sub since the beginning, we got our first 3000 model receiver from skyvision many moons ago and I installed it myself, had to have my dad activate it under his name until 1998, (this should tell you my age) now more than 12 or 15 years later we have always purchased all our own equipment and dishes; 4000, 3900, 301, 322, 211, 512, 612, 222. I also have had DIRECTV since 1998 for their Spanish package so I can make an accurate comparison. When you are a DIRECTV sub you do not spend your time worried on a daily basis about the next sudden upheaval, with a dish sub there is a real lack of confidence, you always have to wonder if the programming (and the technology of a 3 month old model 512 MPEG2 receiver) you just paid for will still be carried by the end of the monthly payment you just made. With DIRECTV other then the Versus issue, they have never had a single memorable falling out with a programmer like dish constantly has, the company seems very childish, in fact I think they are in their second or third childhood lately, lots of fools moves and steps backward, too much dragging their feet and a real lack of fairness to owned subs when it comes to forced technology changes from MPEG2 to MPEG4. If you own they should give you new owned replacements even if it is refurb with one year warranty.
Too many 10 year plus subs that own all their equipment and cost the company little to nothing to keep/maintain as subs are really fed up with the new extortion type additional receiver fees for purchased receivers and are tired of being raked over the coals to pay for all the flip flopper lease sub acquisitions of so called/supposed new subs. If you want the latest and greatest equipment like a 922 good for you, then you can pay for the privilege of dealing with all the bugs and vaporware promises, but for the rest of us who just want to watch tv we shouldn't have to pay for you chumpy's latest pipe dream that really has little to nothing to do with satellite delivered TV programming.?
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#1 change the fee for each additional owned receiver to match DIRECTV at $5 per tuner, or $5 for single 211, 612 and $10 for duo 222, 722, charge whatever for the 922 royalties.
#2 allow 4 free downgrades a year for owned subs then $5 after that. Dish could actually make more money this way because it would actually allow subs to get a better package in the summer or a premium for a month or two at a time once in a while and not have to worry about being charged a fee when they are tired of the channel or don't need the additional programming to fill the holes in their viewing schedule. Let those in a lease type commitment that want to downgrade pay through their teeth to do it since they got a bunch of discounts and free equipment to start off with when they agreed to a certain level of programming.
#3 End childish programming disputes which represent mere pennies per subs increases, perhaps when a programmer is playing hardball we should have the option of paying the difference on an individual sub basis to keep the channels we want on the system.
#4 create an automatic sliding scale loyalty program for good standing long time subs, in other words get a $1 off a month for each year you have been with the company, 10 year subs get $10 off a month credit good towards additional receiver or dvr fees.
# 5 spell it all out clearly in a new updated RCA residential customer agreement, not one that is deliberately outdated and a misrepresentation of reality. Current RCA on dish website is legally a fraud!
Bonus recommendation Hire some delusional reality TV personalities, Heidi and Spencer types, to appear on the chumpy chats. These self promoters types will work for free just to be on the screen. At least with them you can laugh about how delusional and disconnected they are from the reality around them, unlike with Jim and Charlie who just make people mad and who insight you to throw your remote at the screen whenever they show they don't actually have the facts straight about their own company that they are supposedly in charge of.
I can almost see Chumpy and Jokey now turning on their own TVs at home to DIRECTV whenever they want to just sit down and enjoy some TV. That would actually explain how exactly they are so disconnected from the dim reality at dish network!?Bet they did their own DirecTV installs too, you know who, basically admitted it himself when he said he watched the WC in 3D. Gee, I wonder how he would have done that without Disney or DIRECTV at his house?
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thats nice, but bottom line first E rapes the multi receiver subs, some of which leave.
who do you think will be raped next? Smile in a mirror your looking at the next volunteer
thats nice, but bottom line first E rapes the multi receiver subs, some of which leave.
who do you think will be raped next? Smile in a mirror your looking at the next volunteer
bob, plenty of us here have been subject to putting up with your opinions for a long while, most of us are tired of your rants but you are still here, so we have to continue to put up with your injecting yourself into threads even when what you have to say has absolutely nothing to do with what the thread is about, whether we like it or not.
I have stated my opinion on why I have Dish, why I keep Dish, dispute the fact I like sports and couldn't care less about movie channels. I'm sorry you don't like it, I'm sorry that it bothers you, I'm sorry that you think that anyone that continues to have Dish is getting raped, but I'm happy with Dish, so tough crap to you as far as I am concerned!!
Again, I am happy with what I have, with what I am being provided. PERIOD!
Anyone else want to try and change my mind?
I finally got approval from the kids to switch to FIOS. 
I felt bad, because they've never had anything but Dish (~10 years now). Even my 2 year old knows how to operate the remote.
The final straw for them was the DVR. It pukes a hard drive about every 4 months and they loose all of their shows.
Just waiting for a good FIOS deal to come along.
I felt bad, because they've never had anything but Dish (~10 years now). Even my 2 year old knows how to operate the remote.
The final straw for them was the DVR. It pukes a hard drive about every 4 months and they loose all of their shows.
Just waiting for a good FIOS deal to come along.
You are correct about the EHD, but I'm done with voluntarily paying fees to Dish.
That's sort of why I want to go to FIOS. I'm going to go with windows media center once the ceton card is released ( and reported stable ).
bob, plenty of us here have been subject to putting up with your opinions for a long while, most of us are tired of your rants but you are still here, so we have to continue to put up with your injecting yourself into threads even when what you have to say has absolutely nothing to do with what the thread is about, whether we like it or not.
I have stated my opinion on why I have Dish, why I keep Dish, dispute the fact I like sports and couldn't care less about movie channels. I'm sorry you don't like it, I'm sorry that it bothers you, I'm sorry that you think that anyone that continues to have Dish is getting raped, but I'm happy with Dish, so tough crap to you as far as I am concerned!!
Again, I am happy with what I have, with what I am being provided. PERIOD!
Anyone else want to try and change my mind?
Slaminin, I finally figured out Bob's problem...ADD. He can't get enough attention.
You have some real problems
If you were losing an HDD every 4 months then you have some other problem in your house. I have had 3 of the HD DVR's 1st a 942 which E* swapped out for a 622 (TIVO issue on the 942). 2nd the 622 ran until I got an HDMI Panny PLasma and the HDMI broke. Then 3rd I have a 722k. I have never had an HDD go bad the entire time. So something is making you HDD's go dead then you have most likely an electrical problem in your house. Does the voltage vary up and down a lot or something. HDD's usually very reliable for 2 to 5 yrs easily.
I finally got approval from the kids to switch to FIOS.
I felt bad, because they've never had anything but Dish (~10 years now). Even my 2 year old knows how to operate the remote.
The final straw for them was the DVR. It pukes a hard drive about every 4 months and they loose all of their shows.
Just waiting for a good FIOS deal to come along.
If you were losing an HDD every 4 months then you have some other problem in your house. I have had 3 of the HD DVR's 1st a 942 which E* swapped out for a 622 (TIVO issue on the 942). 2nd the 622 ran until I got an HDMI Panny PLasma and the HDMI broke. Then 3rd I have a 722k. I have never had an HDD go bad the entire time. So something is making you HDD's go dead then you have most likely an electrical problem in your house. Does the voltage vary up and down a lot or something. HDD's usually very reliable for 2 to 5 yrs easily.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Does someone still have the diagram showing how to connect two Hopper 3s again?
I currently have one H3 and one 4K Joey, set up through a 1000.2 eastern arc hybrid lnb and solo hub.
The plan is to replace the Joey with the second H3. Already purchased a duo hub and I have three coax cables coming in from outside, from back when I used to have the older 1000.4 dish and the hopper 2. I don't fully remember, but I think the other two coax cables are just tied up next to the dish outside; will have to check again.
I currently have one H3 and one 4K Joey, set up through a 1000.2 eastern arc hybrid lnb and solo hub.
The plan is to replace the Joey with the second H3. Already purchased a duo hub and I have three coax cables coming in from outside, from back when I used to have the older 1000.4 dish and the hopper 2. I don't fully remember, but I think the other two coax cables are just tied up next to the dish outside; will have to check again.
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Over the past year I have been tracking the changes on Western Arc. The past 3 months have had a lot of changes that I posted in the other MPEG2 Western Arc shutdown thread. Now that 129 is (basically) out of commission, here is where Western Arc stands. This is just a national channel list, (no local channels) based off what I can see and what others have contributed. Thanks to everyone who has helped me come up with the locations of some of the channels – I would try and list all of you out, but I know I would forget someone! As has been suggested in other parts of the forum, it would be great to collect the spotbeam data for those who could contribute!
A couple of pieces of info:
When I talk about number of channels on a transponder, all my numbers are unique channels – for example, channel 101 and 199 are the same channel mapped to two different numbers, but in terms of space, only takes up 1 channel worth of bandwidth on the transponder.
Finally, I have to give Dish a ton of credit. When it was 110/119/129, Dish had 82 transponders they were using – it took a lot to get it down to 50 transponders and figure out where all the pieces were going to go. What are the things they did to get there? Here are the things I saw:
A couple of pieces of info:
- Out of the 64 transponders between 110/119, there are currently 50 transponders that Dish is licensed to use. 22 are Spotbeams, 28 are ConUS transponders (14 transponders are licensed to DirecTV and Dish doesn't have access to them)
- Those 28 ConUS transponders are divided as follows:
- 10 are dedicated to National HD channels (ESPN, CNN, Disney Channel, etc). Dish is maxing out at 16 HD channels per transponder (note – in an earlier post I said there was one transponder with 17 HD channels, that was an error on my part. When I double checked my listings, one channel changed transponders). Before the transition, there was a maximum of 14 HD channels per transponder.
- 1 transponder is dedicated to adult content
- 2 are a mixture HD PPV Movies/4k channels
- 3 are set aside for HD Sports channels that are only on for live games (NBA League Pass, the PAC 12 alternate channels, some PPV events, etc); 3 SD PPV Sports Channels are there as well.
- 7 are for SD and/or music channels. Dish is maxing out at 26 SD channels per transponder thus far on the SD transponders.
- 5 transponders on 110 I have no channels listed but Dish operates. (they are labeled as ConUS on my chart below) There are other things that could be on those transponders, like RV Distant Networks, internal testing channels, etc, that I can't see. They might be able to be used for additional content, but I am not sure exactly what is on those transponders.
When I talk about number of channels on a transponder, all my numbers are unique channels – for example, channel 101 and 199 are the same channel mapped to two different numbers, but in terms of space, only takes up 1 channel worth of bandwidth on the transponder.
Finally, I have to give Dish a ton of credit. When it was 110/119/129, Dish had 82 transponders they were using – it took a lot to get it down to 50 transponders and figure out where all the pieces were going to go. What are the things they did to get there? Here are the things I saw:
- During this migration from 129, Dish converted 7 ConUS transponders on 119 into Spotbeams – that is how they ended up fitting on all the HD locals that used to be on 129. (for those interested, TP 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13 are the ones that used to be ConUS on 119 that are now Spotbeam)
- Removed almost all SD duplicate channels that are offered in HD
- Converted remaining SD channels from MPEG2 to MPEG4
- There are also 2 subtle things that changed from the HD channel perspective
- At the beginning of the transition, Dish decreased the number of PPV Movie channels – prior to this transition the PPV channels HD PPV movies were 502-522; now they are 502-517.
- At the beginning of April when MLB, NBA, and NHL regular seasons were all going on at the same time and this transition began, there were a ton of games "joined in progress" for the HD feeds. That wasn't common since the days before the full time HD RSN's. The reason for that was prior to the transition, Dish had 4 transponders set aside for HD Sports – 2 transponders was the bandwidth set aside from the HD RSN's before Dish dropped the RSN's, then 2 transponders were for alternate channels. Now we are down to 3 transponders for HD sports.
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.
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So is Kelce.Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.
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Well you see him more because he is incredibly talented. And yes, typically players try to spin things being in their favor. This isn't cricket where sportsmanship (except in Australia) is expected.Mahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.
He wants to be BradyMahomes is the biggest cry baby I have ever seen. He thinks he's privileged or something.
I was bewildered with all the new DISH TV "Bonus View" channels, so I put together a web page table with all the info I could find. It's at:
https://anythingpeaceful.org/dishtv/DISH_TV_Bonus_View_Channels.html
Here's a partial screenshot of the table, as sorted by Channel Name. (You can click on a column header to sort.)
If you have any corrections or suggestions, please post here.
https://anythingpeaceful.org/dishtv/DISH_TV_Bonus_View_Channels.html
Here's a partial screenshot of the table, as sorted by Channel Name. (You can click on a column header to sort.)
If you have any corrections or suggestions, please post here.
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One Bonus View channel added today. And one correction (on my part):
One Removed:
My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels
BTW, not a Bonus View item, but there was a temporary channel 304 Spooktacular added, I imagine just for the Halloween season.
Thanks again to Pat for the many tips.
One Removed:
My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels
BTW, not a Bonus View item, but there was a temporary channel 304 Spooktacular added, I imagine just for the Halloween season.
Thanks again to Pat for the many tips.
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Three new Bonus View channels today:
My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels
As always, thanks to Pat for the tips.
My full list is at: DISH TV "Bonus View" Channels
As always, thanks to Pat for the tips.
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Continuing the Kilauea thread in the Pub here. Perhaps the Iceland one too next time there's remarkable activity.
Currently there is precursory lava flowing into the crater, leading to the next episode that'll probably start within the next day.
You can see the pace of inflation / deflation here. It serves as the primary predictor for when the expect the eruptions, which coincide w/ inflation turning into significant deflation and last for several hours on average with significant fountaining.
www.usgs.gov
View: https://youtu.be/Uecu2seh4b4
Wife and I like the AfarTV feeds, for the discussion along w/ them, though they're otherwise just mirrors of the official USGS feeds.
View: https://youtu.be/iws3rh5vLAQ
Currently there is precursory lava flowing into the crater, leading to the next episode that'll probably start within the next day.
You can see the pace of inflation / deflation here. It serves as the primary predictor for when the expect the eruptions, which coincide w/ inflation turning into significant deflation and last for several hours on average with significant fountaining.
Monitoring Data for Kīlauea
For more information on how electronic tiltmeters and GPS receivers help monitor the deformation of Kīlauea volcano, see the HVO Deformation page.
View: https://youtu.be/Uecu2seh4b4
Wife and I like the AfarTV feeds, for the discussion along w/ them, though they're otherwise just mirrors of the official USGS feeds.
View: https://youtu.be/iws3rh5vLAQ
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Oooo, quite the show now. All three vents have doming and overflows. The cone that built up around the North vent lost its upper quarter at 02:50 Oct 17 and is now spewing lava at a healthy rate. Don't know if I would say it's a fountain, but it's close.
edit: The USGS has called the official start of Episode 55 as starting at 03:19 HST Oct 17, 2026:
Alert Level: WATCH, Color Code: ORANGE 2026-10-17 13:43:56 UTC
HVO/USGS Volcanic Activity Notice
Volcano: Kilauea (VNUM #332010)
Current Volcano Alert Level: WATCH
Current Aviation Color Code: ORANGE
Issued: Saturday, October 17, 2026, 3:43 AM HST
Source: Hawaiian Volcano Observatory
Notice Number: 2026/H488
Location: N 19 deg 25 min W 155 deg 17 min
Elevation: 4091 ft (1247 m)
Area: Hawaii
Summary: Episode 55 of the ongoing Halemaʻumaʻu eruption began at 3:19 AM HST on October 17, 2026.
Volcanic Activity:
Episode 55 of lava fountaining in Halemaʻumaʻu began at the summit of Kīlauea began at 3:19 AM HST on October 17, 2026.
Fountain heights are relatively low at about 100-150 feet (30-45 m), and it is not clear whether this episode will evolve to the same heights as previous episodes. Continuous overflows from the vents began yesterday, October 16, just before 6 a.m. HST and transitioned into episode 55 fountains at 3:19 a.m. HST this morning. The current forecast is for winds are blowing from the north-northeast direction, which suggests that volcanic gas emissions and volcanic material may be distributed to the south-southwest direction from Halemaʻumaʻu.
edit: The USGS has called the official start of Episode 55 as starting at 03:19 HST Oct 17, 2026:
Alert Level: WATCH, Color Code: ORANGE 2026-10-17 13:43:56 UTC
HVO/USGS Volcanic Activity Notice
Volcano: Kilauea (VNUM #332010)
Current Volcano Alert Level: WATCH
Current Aviation Color Code: ORANGE
Issued: Saturday, October 17, 2026, 3:43 AM HST
Source: Hawaiian Volcano Observatory
Notice Number: 2026/H488
Location: N 19 deg 25 min W 155 deg 17 min
Elevation: 4091 ft (1247 m)
Area: Hawaii
Summary: Episode 55 of the ongoing Halemaʻumaʻu eruption began at 3:19 AM HST on October 17, 2026.
Volcanic Activity:
Episode 55 of lava fountaining in Halemaʻumaʻu began at the summit of Kīlauea began at 3:19 AM HST on October 17, 2026.
Fountain heights are relatively low at about 100-150 feet (30-45 m), and it is not clear whether this episode will evolve to the same heights as previous episodes. Continuous overflows from the vents began yesterday, October 16, just before 6 a.m. HST and transitioned into episode 55 fountains at 3:19 a.m. HST this morning. The current forecast is for winds are blowing from the north-northeast direction, which suggests that volcanic gas emissions and volcanic material may be distributed to the south-southwest direction from Halemaʻumaʻu.
- All eruptive vents and lava flows are confined to Halemaʻumaʻu crater within Hawaiʻi Volcanoes National Park. Tephra fall from volcanic ash clouds is greatest within 3 miles (5 km) of the vents, lighter ash and Pele's Hair may stay suspended for large distances from the vents.
Kīlauea seems to be returning to the "normal" eruption script, impressive fountaining from the North Vent. For once, the V2 Cam has the best overall shot:
The lava flows have covered a good portion of the Halemaʻumaʻu crater floor.
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Now first, I'll mention that the area of FL I live in has extremely high humidity and not a lot of wind so things don't dry out very well for extended periods of time.
I'm in the process of tearing down and rebuilding a pergola with a surrounding deck that I built 9 yrs ago. 90% of the deck screws are just sheering off at the head because the screws rusted out. These are the deck screws you buy in the 25 lb box at your lumber yard. Very annoying. So I just ordered some 316L stainless steel screws to use for when I go to rebuild it.
I'm in the process of tearing down and rebuilding a pergola with a surrounding deck that I built 9 yrs ago. 90% of the deck screws are just sheering off at the head because the screws rusted out. These are the deck screws you buy in the 25 lb box at your lumber yard. Very annoying. So I just ordered some 316L stainless steel screws to use for when I go to rebuild it.
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