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goaliebob99
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Last reply · posted in DIRECTV General Forum
You shall now be known as Darth Vader...........



So we started out very ugly, the install almost never happened. Installer arrived for a 5 bed room install at 3:45 pm. My window was from 12-4. He arrived within the window, but it was later than what I wanted to see, especally being that it was a 5 room install.

Installer called at 3 to say he was going to be here at 3:45 asking if I had equipment. I was like dude, I sent my old equipment back 9 months ago! :eek: The installer made of those Oh Sh*t groans and said he would be here.

Fortunatly I had my SWM setup allready set and things were good to go, (god forbid if he had to run any wire, he would have been SOL so I saved the installers butt tonight.) It was a plug and play setup. Installer arives here, and I show him the rooms. Pulls out two hr 20-100's No HR 24's here. So he installs the HR 20's wich is an eyesore on my all black equipment to have a gray box sitting out. The only thing is that good about it, it includes the ota module. Also, The installer smells Very badley, His Body Oder was very nasty and he showed up in a blue directv work shirt, and black sweats. I could bearly stand a few feet away from him from the stench. This was very unprofessional.

He puts in all of the recivers (2 hr 20's, 2 h24's, and a d12) they go to activate recivers and bingo they cant... I also asked about the whole home dvr thing as it was listed on my order but the installer wasnt installing any decca equipment. He checks into it as they have MRV listed on my work order but no MRV in the programming, nore do they list any of the DECCA and internet kit that was suppost to be with it, all it says on my work order is MRV. The orignal CSR that placed the order didnt do it right and they had to redo the entire order.

The installer ended up putting in all the nessary decca equipment and internet sharing after talking with coustomer service.

After they spent over 1 hour on the phone rebuilding the entire work order they finally got everything up and running with the right packages as they didnt have it right the first time.

This whole home dvr thing really rocks. I was very very very surprised that I could stream 1080P over the network! Totally awsome. I can watch anything on any dvr anywhere in my house.

Its very nice to be able to turn on my RSN at any time and not worry about if the programming is going to be on in hd or not. I keep asking myself why did I ever switch to Dish? Simply put with Directv there are no worrys and that means alot. I instantly had the programming that I wanted and I didnt have to begg moan or gripe to get it. No part time programming, it was all there. From talking to the CSR's on the phone through the screwups, they made me feel like I was apart of thier family and they wanted to welcome me home. This is something that dish has never done, and what they used to do back in 1997, but that atttiude has been lost at dish! Aside from the unprofessonalism of the installer everything went as planned.

It feels good to have VOD that matters back as well as the quality of the lay out of D*. You can tell that directv pours there heart into this stuff and doesnt half @ss it like dish. They thank you for coming to thier service and the do what Dish and others isnt doing.... Putting the coustomer into coustomer service.

Some things I would like to see is the ablity to use VOD on the H24's and record them to a networked dvr. So if someone sees a vod event they want to download on a non dvr reciver, give them the option to have it download to a dvr that is networked.

Aside from the installer's crap, I'm very impresseed with Directv. The PQ from dish to direct, I say that Direct is better on most channels, but there was a couple that Dish had better pq. I'll keep looking, but I think its going to take alot from charlie to get me back to dish. He's done his damage, and in my eyes dish will always be a 3rd teir service. I dont know if dish can earn my trust, respect, and my dollar back. As of right now, there is a snowballs chance in hell. Sorry Charlie! That's fact!
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M
you're missing my point.

If you live in a market with a part time RSN on satellite (like FSN TN, FSN Indiana, FSN Utah, etc) with D* its on the same channel every game. With E* who knows where it is

If I want to watch the Brewers I tune to 669 on D*...with E* it could be any channel in the ALT area
J
installer

I guess us installers should go home after each install and shower up. No one seems to realize that we installers sometimes have to crawl in crawl-spaces with snakes snails and toilet water leaking down on us. Not to mention the fact that we get two am jobs two pm jobs and potentially a late so OF COURSE he did your long 5 box as his second pm because it could have taken more then 4 hours depending on the circumstances then his other pm would have been screwed. yeah we are SUCH jerks we just love smelling bad and starting five boxes at 3 45...and having bad work orders and obviously there werent enough hr 24s in the warehouse because we arent supposed to be installing them on mrv jobs AND we love that NONE of the MRV jobs are telling us that they are mrv jobs. we would just carry extra equipment but unfortunately there isn't enough in our shops to do so.

Basically we installers are trying our best to get you everything you need and so is direct tv but it isnt easy all the time.
uncrules
you're missing my point.

If you live in a market with a part time RSN on satellite (like FSN TN, FSN Indiana, FSN Utah, etc) with D* its on the same channel every game. With E* who knows where it is

If I want to watch the Brewers I tune to 669 on D*...with E* it could be any channel in the ALT area

I understand what you're saying. I was just trying to explain to the new D* subs how D* is able to carry all of the part time and alternate RSNs. And to head off complaints as to why D* has so many HD PPVs and to explain why D* just can't replace all of it's HD PPVs with national or premium HD channels.
vurbano
You shall now be known as Darth Vader...........



So we started out very ugly, the install almost never happened. Installer arrived for a 5 bed room install at 3:45 pm. My window was from 12-4. He arrived within the window, but it was later than what I wanted to see, especally being that it was a 5 room install.

Installer called at 3 to say he was going to be here at 3:45 asking if I had equipment. I was like dude, I sent my old equipment back 9 months ago! :eek: The installer made of those Oh Sh*t groans and said he would be here.

Fortunatly I had my SWM setup allready set and things were good to go, (god forbid if he had to run any wire, he would have been SOL so I saved the installers butt tonight.) It was a plug and play setup. Installer arives here, and I show him the rooms. Pulls out two hr 20-100's No HR 24's here. So he installs the HR 20's wich is an eyesore on my all black equipment to have a gray box sitting out. The only thing is that good about it, it includes the ota module. Also, The installer smells Very badley, His Body Oder was very nasty and he showed up in a blue directv work shirt, and black sweats. I could bearly stand a few feet away from him from the stench. This was very unprofessional.

He puts in all of the recivers (2 hr 20's, 2 h24's, and a d12) they go to activate recivers and bingo they cant... I also asked about the whole home dvr thing as it was listed on my order but the installer wasnt installing any decca equipment. He checks into it as they have MRV listed on my work order but no MRV in the programming, nore do they list any of the DECCA and internet kit that was suppost to be with it, all it says on my work order is MRV. The orignal CSR that placed the order didnt do it right and they had to redo the entire order.

The installer ended up putting in all the nessary decca equipment and internet sharing after talking with coustomer service.

After they spent over 1 hour on the phone rebuilding the entire work order they finally got everything up and running with the right packages as they didnt have it right the first time.

This whole home dvr thing really rocks. I was very very very surprised that I could stream 1080P over the network! Totally awsome. I can watch anything on any dvr anywhere in my house.

Its very nice to be able to turn on my RSN at any time and not worry about if the programming is going to be on in hd or not. I keep asking myself why did I ever switch to Dish? Simply put with Directv there are no worrys and that means alot. I instantly had the programming that I wanted and I didnt have to begg moan or gripe to get it. No part time programming, it was all there. From talking to the CSR's on the phone through the screwups, they made me feel like I was apart of thier family and they wanted to welcome me home. This is something that dish has never done, and what they used to do back in 1997, but that atttiude has been lost at dish! Aside from the unprofessonalism of the installer everything went as planned.

It feels good to have VOD that matters back as well as the quality of the lay out of D*. You can tell that directv pours there heart into this stuff and doesnt half @ss it like dish. They thank you for coming to thier service and the do what Dish and others isnt doing.... Putting the coustomer into coustomer service.

Some things I would like to see is the ablity to use VOD on the H24's and record them to a networked dvr. So if someone sees a vod event they want to download on a non dvr reciver, give them the option to have it download to a dvr that is networked.

Aside from the installer's crap, I'm very impresseed with Directv. The PQ from dish to direct, I say that Direct is better on most channels, but there was a couple that Dish had better pq. I'll keep looking, but I think its going to take alot from charlie to get me back to dish. He's done his damage, and in my eyes dish will always be a 3rd teir service. I dont know if dish can earn my trust, respect, and my dollar back. As of right now, there is a snowballs chance in hell. Sorry Charlie! That's fact!
I believe the installers are the weakest link at Directv. The will use anyone that can fog a mirror. The CSR's have always been good IMO.
jimigsu
My Installer yesterday was awesome.. we spent 6 hours together rewiring the whole house, installing a pole mount, and well busting humps.
Tom Speer
Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Cutting Edge Information
In order to participate in any Cutting Edge testing, you must sign a Non Disclosure Agreement (NDA). Attached are a .docx (Microsoft Word) and PDF version of the latest DirecTV NDA. I found it easiest to complete the .docx version then paste a photo or scan image of my signature, cropped closely to just the signature into it as a picture. Then set Word to wrap text around the picture so that the picture follows the text "Signature".

People who have better PDF tools than I do may prefer that version.

When you apply for any Cutting Edge testing, you will be told how to send the signed copy.
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Tom Speer
Any NDA you have signed before is still valid for the testing you have been and hopefull still are doing. The new NDA forms are ror new CE testers and new categories of CE testing. They have been placed here so that people who volunteer for any CE testing have access to them.
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
This was actually one of the more disturbing videos I've seen on this channel. IF this guy hadn't been driving a Tesla which has 360 degree cams, he would probably become a felon and had his life ruined.....all because of a lying cop. The other officers in this video didn't impress me too much either, their whole mentality was how can we nail this guy.
This is a perfect example of why I'm always a bit nervous when I get below Perry, FL. There is a huge difference between north and south Florida and everyone who lives here knows this.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4Q8q0KQQ14
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Bruce
This was actually one of the more disturbing videos I've seen on this channel. IF this guy hadn't been driving a Tesla which has 360 degree cams, he would probably become a felon and had his life ruined.....all because of a lying cop. The other officers in this video didn't impress me too much either, their whole mentality was how can we nail this guy.
This is a perfect example of why I'm always a bit nervous when I get below Perry, FL. There is a huge difference between north and south Florida and everyone who lives here knows this.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4Q8q0KQQ14

Central is not any better, Polk County still does not have body cams.
Bruce
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
I was reading this article


That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.


Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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Jimbo
But they ARE Streaming as well, so they Should be counted as both, which would make the Streaming numbers even More prominate.

Q.
Who does the Counting for Streaming ?

Neilson does the Broadcast/Cable ...
b4pjoe
But they ARE Streaming as well, so they Should be counted as both, which would make the Streaming numbers even More prominate.

Q.
Who does the Counting for Streaming ?

Neilson does the Broadcast/Cable ...
But they are basically airing a number of live channels just like Broadcast, Cable, and Others so that is why they are counted that way.
Bruce
But they ARE Streaming as well, so they Should be counted as both, which would make the Streaming numbers even More prominate.

Q.
Who does the Counting for Streaming ?

Neilson does the Broadcast/Cable ...
Same.

Ratings for streaming content is extremely accurate, since the service knows who is watching what and when, when we hit ok on our remotes.

Ratings for Broadcast/Cable shows has always been a estimate.
Jimbo
Same.

Ratings for streaming content is extremely accurate, since the service knows who is watching what and when, when we hit ok on our remotes.

Ratings for Broadcast/Cable shows has always been a estimate.
If I flip thru shows on an app, 3-4 in a few minutes, does that still show that I watched the whole episode ?


If I watch the Super Bowl for 5 minutes, does that count as watching the Super Bowl ?
Is it the same if I just watched the Commercials.
Bruce
If I flip thru shows on an app, 3-4 in a few minutes, does that still show that I watched the whole episode ?


If I watch the Super Bowl for 5 minutes, does that count as watching the Super Bowl ?
Is it the same if I just watched the Commercials.
Nielsen Streaming Ratings: Third-party measurement firm Nielsen tracks U.S. streaming viewership, releasing weekly reports that measure total minutes viewed across major television sets, broken down by program (such as original, acquired, and movie content) rather than minute-by-minute audience retention curves.
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Gary Toma
Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum
The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:
​
National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)
​
Additional tabs provide:​
OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders
​
Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8​

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions
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jamieh1
Now in the Hornets and Hurricanes markets we just get the TV promise screen. But Directv still charges sports fee I am assuming.
Luckily my DTV stream package doesn't have a rsn fee. Figure DTV that always says is the leader in sports would have come to an agreement by now.
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K
Now in the Hornets and Hurricanes markets we just get the TV promise screen. But Directv still charges sports fee I am assuming.
Greenville-New Bern is $11.99 for MASN (Orioles) and Nationals
Raleigh is $11.99 for MASN and Nationals
Charlotte is $12.99 for BravesVision, MASN, Nationals and Reds

The fee in NC also includes the higher in state rate they have to pay for ACCN. Down in SC the fee is $15.99 as they are also a SEC state.
I'm not sure if they're doing it with those teams, but in some markets they also use the fee to cover the additional cost they have to pay for independents and MyNet stations that picked up full season NHL and NBA rights.

If you go to the TVPromise site, you'll likely be able to get a credit for not getting the Hurricanes and additional Hornets games that air on WITN-D2

Figure DTV that always says is the leader in sports would have come to an agreement by now.
Part of the hold out might be the packaging and price for outer areas like how the Thunder needs sports pack for other states. Hopefully they are also pushing for a guarantee from the teams that they would require whoever wins their local broadcasting rights in 2028 to negotiate with MVPDs. Commercial distribution rights are probably a factor too.

I'm guessing they got a deep discount for the Clippers based on how long it took them to officially announce ClipperVision and their KTLA simulcasts after they were basically handed a multi-year draft death penalty.

The Predators and Pistons channels are using feeds supplied by Scripps Sports

The Heat likely depends on whoever they sign for the Fort Myers DMA, as there's no point in paying a high price for the Heat just for that DMA when WPLG is streaming it for free on their app and website for viewers in the Miami DMA, and they already carry the West Palm Beach station.
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cp2k
If you go to the TVPromise site, you'll likely be able to get a credit for not getting the Hurricanes and additional Hornets games that air on WITN-D2

I tried this with both the Hurricanes and Hornets since I'm in upstate SC, and wasn't offered any kind of credit by the site. It's not a huge deal to me as I can pick up WSOC/WAXN over the air at my location even though I'm outside the Charlotte market.
TheRatPatrol
I thought the NBA TV contracts were short term as the NBA is trying to get all of the teams into in an all in one streaming app?
K
649 GRZLLIES and 671 PACERS are now available.

The rest are still pointing to the TV Promise slate
K
660 CAVLIERS, 668 TWOLVES and 680 SPURS are now available
S
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
I haven't posted in almost 17 years. Over the air, sat, offline, anything-but-the-internet is still one of my avid pursuits. Been playing with offline tv viewing and offline web browsing. I have great appreciations for this site still being here. It's so hard to find public communities that haven't sold out to social media company.
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dishstaller
Got to admit, I had to look up "offline web browsing". I had never heard of it.
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Scott Greczkowski
Welcome back, as you can see we branched off into a bunch of things since Satellite is what it is now, so lots to talk about here. :)
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Jimbo
Got to admit, I had to look up "offline web browsing". I had never heard of it.
From what I understand, it's just saving a article or whatever, to Save it so you can read it later ....
Unless he's talking something entirely different ... the way I am looking at it, you Still need the Internet to load it originally.
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Bobby
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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Bobby
CFB, Indiana at Michigan, Saturday 10-24, 9AM PDT, Channel 148-01.
CFB, BYU at UCF, Saturday 10-24, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
Bobby
MLB, Rays at Brewers, Friday 10-23, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
Bobby
MLB, Rays at Brewers, Saturday 10-24, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
Bobby
MLB, Brewers at Rays, Monday 10-26, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
Bobby
MLB, Brewers at Rays, Tuesday 10-27, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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Scott Greczkowski
Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV General Forum
The following is from Reddit. -
View: https://www.reddit.com/r/DirectvStream/s/orzHBkmqQW


gemini.webp

There appears to be a new DIRECTV Gemini OTT box, the C81KW-650.

The FCC listing is partially available, and a Geekbench entry confirms it uses an Amlogic S905X5, a solid SoC for a set-top box.

I also see 4GB of RAM, and the manufacturer is SEI Robotics.

DIRECTV C81KW OTT Box - Android TV Guide

Ok found a picture of the Box too on Reddit:


View: https://www.reddit.com/r/DirectvStream/comments/1twlex0/comment/opzeqi1/
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GRB1959
A new Gemini box for DirecTV streaming possibly becoming available in January of 2027? That would be welcome news.

I have been exploring leaving Dish DBS ever since a software update around Aug. 10, version H711 and now H712, is causing problems with IR signals and the Dish Hopper 3. As a result my Sofabaton X2 universal remote no longer works perfectly as it did prior to the H711 and H712 Dish Hopper 3 firmware updates.

I have been a little leary of the current hardware available for DirecTV streaming as the Gemini Ospry box fits my needs, however they are getting a little long in the tooth and finding the 4GB RAM (SKU: 60233) Osprey box complete with remote and power cable is somewhat challenging. I see that the 2GB RAM Osprey boxes (SKU: 60164) can be found on Ebay and at Walmart online used, however a 4GB Osprey box is preferred.

Now I wonder if I should just wait it out until the new Gemini box for DirecTV streaming becomes available. I want a box with an Ethernet port and the Gemini Air is WiFi only. If the new Gemini box does become available in January of 2027 will it be lease only via DirecTV or will we be allowed to purchase them?
S
A new Gemini box for DirecTV streaming possibly becoming available in January of 2027? That would be welcome news.

I have been exploring leaving Dish DBS ever since a software update around Aug. 10, version H711 and now H712, is causing problems with IR signals and the Dish Hopper 3. As a result my Sofabaton X2 universal remote no longer works perfectly as it did prior to the H711 and H712 Dish Hopper 3 firmware updates.

I have been a little leary of the current hardware available for DirecTV streaming as the Gemini Ospry box fits my needs, however they are getting a little long in the tooth and finding the 4GB RAM (SKU: 60233) Osprey box complete with remote and power cable is somewhat challenging. I see that the 2GB RAM Osprey boxes (SKU: 60164) can be found on Ebay and at Walmart online used, however a 4GB Osprey box is preferred.

Now I wonder if I should just wait it out until the new Gemini box for DirecTV streaming becomes available. I want a box with an Ethernet port and the Gemini Air is WiFi only. If the new Gemini box does become available in January of 2027 will it be lease only via DirecTV or will we be allowed to purchase them?
there leased at 10.00 per box. unless you can find em at ebay or wally world where people have gotten em before. or you could get a roku apple tv firestick if you don't need the channel numbers
GRB1959
there leased at 10.00 per box. unless you can find em at ebay or wally world where people have gotten em before. or you could get a roku apple tv firestick if you don't need the channel numbers

I appreciate the reply. My wife will be using this as well so a numeric keypad to change channels that actually works is a must and I want it to have a hardwired Ethernet port so that leaves the Gemini box as my only real choice.
dishstaller
I want it to have a hardwired Ethernet port so that leaves the Gemini box as my only real choice.
The Roku Ultra series (the larger square box models that attach via hdmi) have ethernet ports
roku back.webp
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b4pjoe
The Roku Ultra series (the larger square box models that attach via hdmi) have ethernet portsView attachment 194992
This thread is about the new box for the DIRECTV Stream service. And yes it has an Ethernet port also.
dishstaller
This thread is about the new box for the DIRECTV Stream service. And yes it has an Ethernet port also.
I didn't just mention this for no reason.....see posts #10 and 11 where Roku was clearly brought into the discussion. I'm NOT trying to hijack a thread but ADD information to it.
Scott Greczkowski
I know a few people who have gotten one and I am told like most modern streaming boxes this one also has HDR on all the time.
b4pjoe
I know a few people who have gotten one and I am told like most modern streaming boxes this one also has HDR on all the time.
My guess it is like the 2 previous boxes where you can turn it off/on but requires a reboot once you make the change for the change to take effect. Not sure if there is some limitation in the hardware that won't allow it to change automatically to what is in the content like other devices do. Even DIRECTV satellites own C61K changes on the fly.
Tom Speer
I know a few people who have gotten one and I am told like most modern streaming boxes this one also has HDR on all the time.
I only noticed that as a problem on TVs that handle HDR poorly. They don't have enough peak brightness or enough dimming zones. For instance, TCL makes three lines of TV, sort of like the old Sears model of Good, Better, Best. On my 4 or 5 year end low price model, HDR looked awful (My neighbor likes the TV now). The midrange model from the next model year ithat I have at my Lake home now looks pretty good in HDR all the time. The midrange TCL QM7 model from last year at my other home looks spectacular, as I remember. I haven't seen it for 6 months.

If I had a TV that does HDR poorly, I would configure the Gemini to disable all HDR.
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b4pjoe
I only noticed that as a problem on TVs that handle HDR poorly. They don't have enough peak brightness or enough dimming zones. For instance, TCL makes three lines of TV, sort of like the old Sears model of Good, Better, Best. On my 4 or 5 year end low price mode, HDR looked awful (My neighbor likes the TV now). The midrannge model from the next model year ithat I have at my Lake home now looks pretty good in HDR all the time. The midrange TCL QM7 model from last year at my other home looks spectacular, as I remember. I haven't seen it for 6 months.

If I had a TV that does HDR poorly, I would configure the Gemini to disble all HDR.
I agree with that. The 2 LGs that we have Gemini's on looks far better with HDR enabled then it does with HDR off.