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I am planning on upgrading from my receiver to either the 222k or 222. Here is what I have learned and what is important to me:
1) 222 was buggy when it came out, judging from posts/comments I read back in 2009 or earlier? So in general are the earlier problems resolved now and is the 222 considered a reliable HD Sat receiver today. (The impression that the 222 was/is buggy is just that an impression. I may have formed an improper impression and most of the negative comments were mostly isolated cases.) In any case I am hoping that VIP 222 is now a reliable working HD Sat receiver.
2) I am leaning toward the 222 because it has S-Video and the 222k does not.
(I need/prefer S-Video because of the better PQ when I record to my Pioneer DVR.) (For the time being I do not have the funds to update all my equipment to HD so I will be staying with SD. I am upgrading because I want to take advantage of the HD Free for life promotion.)
3) The 222k has a different chipset. Not sure if this matters?
4) Wondering what the HDMI interface version is for both the 222k and 222? (1.2, 1.3, 1.4 ...) This may be a reason to swing back to the 222k if it is newer.
5) The 222k has a 2 tuner OTA module while the 222 has a single tuner. (I have read that the 222k sends a weaker signal because it splits it for the 2nd TV... or something like that.)
6) The 222k is slightly smaller in depth.
7) I read one comment that all of the "K" equipment were ready for Sling functionality. This doesn't make sense to me on a non-DVR box, (But I am currently very tired.) I have only a small interest in this functionality but it is something to consider if it were true.
8) There is no EHD option for the 222k/222. (Comments I read sounded like this might not every come to pass but that it at one time was thought to be on the road map.) Disappointing because if I ever decide to go with the Dish Network DVR solution I will have to upgrade to a DVR. For now my plan is to build a MythTV box.)
9) Also, Dish Network fake tech support mentioned that the 222k had more memory. This was the answer I got when I asked about the HDMI interface version. Uhhh? If you have ever called Dish Network customer service for tech support you get a guy/gal who doesn't know much of anything in the technical realm. They just start Googling your questions for you. I asked to be put through to 2nd level tech support but was denied. But I digress... The more memory comment was later reversed when I spoke to the supervisor, he said he has no knowledge of the 222k having more memory. I am mostly sure this just a red herring.
If anyone can help answer my outstanding questions, especially about the reliability of either the 222 or 222k, it would be greatly appreciated.
1) 222 was buggy when it came out, judging from posts/comments I read back in 2009 or earlier? So in general are the earlier problems resolved now and is the 222 considered a reliable HD Sat receiver today. (The impression that the 222 was/is buggy is just that an impression. I may have formed an improper impression and most of the negative comments were mostly isolated cases.) In any case I am hoping that VIP 222 is now a reliable working HD Sat receiver.
2) I am leaning toward the 222 because it has S-Video and the 222k does not.
(I need/prefer S-Video because of the better PQ when I record to my Pioneer DVR.) (For the time being I do not have the funds to update all my equipment to HD so I will be staying with SD. I am upgrading because I want to take advantage of the HD Free for life promotion.)
3) The 222k has a different chipset. Not sure if this matters?
4) Wondering what the HDMI interface version is for both the 222k and 222? (1.2, 1.3, 1.4 ...) This may be a reason to swing back to the 222k if it is newer.
5) The 222k has a 2 tuner OTA module while the 222 has a single tuner. (I have read that the 222k sends a weaker signal because it splits it for the 2nd TV... or something like that.)
6) The 222k is slightly smaller in depth.
7) I read one comment that all of the "K" equipment were ready for Sling functionality. This doesn't make sense to me on a non-DVR box, (But I am currently very tired.) I have only a small interest in this functionality but it is something to consider if it were true.
8) There is no EHD option for the 222k/222. (Comments I read sounded like this might not every come to pass but that it at one time was thought to be on the road map.) Disappointing because if I ever decide to go with the Dish Network DVR solution I will have to upgrade to a DVR. For now my plan is to build a MythTV box.)
9) Also, Dish Network fake tech support mentioned that the 222k had more memory. This was the answer I got when I asked about the HDMI interface version. Uhhh? If you have ever called Dish Network customer service for tech support you get a guy/gal who doesn't know much of anything in the technical realm. They just start Googling your questions for you. I asked to be put through to 2nd level tech support but was denied. But I digress... The more memory comment was later reversed when I spoke to the supervisor, he said he has no knowledge of the 222k having more memory. I am mostly sure this just a red herring.
If anyone can help answer my outstanding questions, especially about the reliability of either the 222 or 222k, it would be greatly appreciated.
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Okay, thanks much. I think I am going to go for the 222, I just wish I knew whether or not the 222k had a newer version of the HDMI interface. I'd get the 211 if didn't expect to have use of my older TV's for some time to come and so will be able to take advantage of the 2nd SD tuner.
Okay, thanks much. I think I am going to go for the 222, I just wish I knew whether or not the 222k had a newer version of the HDMI interface. I'd get the 211 if didn't expect to have use of my older TV's for some time to come and so will be able to take advantage of the 2nd SD tuner.
Okay, thanks much. I think I am going to go for the 222, I just wish I knew whether or not the 222k had a newer version of the HDMI interface. I'd get the 211 if didn't expect to have use of my older TV's for some time to come and so will be able to take advantage of the 2nd SD tuner.
I'd go with the 222k just cause the remove is black and more cool looking lol but no there isn't any difference in the HDMI interface of the two.
As for the 211, it comes with a coax output also so your older TV's will work just fine with it and you can even run a big splitter to a few other TV's to watch the same thing on it even if one of them is right at the box and hooked up via HDMI.
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Thanks to Fitch Ratings ( who gives the ratings on Credit and debt, as approved by the SEC, so they have accurate numbers) we have the totals.
DIRECTV's video subscriber base is the third-largest traditional multi-channel video programming distributor (MVPD) in the U.S. with about 8.2 million subscribers at the end of 1Q26.
The last time it was reported, it was 8.8M at the end of 2Q25, so only a 600,000 loss for 3 quarters, which is a major improvement, since for many years before that, it was losing 500,000 a quarter, 2 Million a year.
It is now losing less than Dish/Sling combined, I believe the Genre Packs are helping to retain and get subscribers.
DIRECTV's video subscriber base is the third-largest traditional multi-channel video programming distributor (MVPD) in the U.S. with about 8.2 million subscribers at the end of 1Q26.
The last time it was reported, it was 8.8M at the end of 2Q25, so only a 600,000 loss for 3 quarters, which is a major improvement, since for many years before that, it was losing 500,000 a quarter, 2 Million a year.
It is now losing less than Dish/Sling combined, I believe the Genre Packs are helping to retain and get subscribers.
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Recently came back to DirectTV Satellite service and have two boxes, Gemini and a main HR54.
DirecTV is charging me two "TV access fees" of $10 each, but can only watch TV on the one without the server. Is there anything I can do to fix this?
DirecTV is charging me two "TV access fees" of $10 each, but can only watch TV on the one without the server. Is there anything I can do to fix this?
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I feel like this was discussed in another thread, but I can't find it. I have T-Mobile and my last iPhone upgrade was in 2020. I want to get a new iPhone, but what is the best way to go about doing it? Should I order the iPhone from T-Mobile directly, or should I buy from the Apple Store? I feel like there are pros/cons to each option.
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I have a Hopper with Sling. (Don't know exact model.) A couple nights ago, I went into the DVR screen, and noted that it was recording three programs. Yet I was able to view live TV (that was not one of the channels being recorded.) Did something change? In the past, it would only let me watch one of the channels being recorded, or any recording in the DVR menu. Maybe it was streaming, although there was no indication of that?
Apologies if this has been covered; I searched and didn't find anything.
Thanks.
Apologies if this has been covered; I searched and didn't find anything.
Thanks.
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Direct YouTube Link - Good Bye, Tim! Last WWDC
The official iJustine Website's Website
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WANTED DirecTV LCC
Anyone have a DirecTV Local Channel Connector that you'd like to get rid of at a reasonable price? DirecTV is currently in a contract dispute with owner of my local ABC affiliate.
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I did that. The response was that the LCC is not available. Escalated the issue to a tech support person with the same results.
Could be out of them I guess ... I'd keep trying, every 3-4 days.I did that. The response was that the LCC is not available. Escalated the issue to a tech support person with the same results.
If they are not out of them as them WHY you can't get one, seeing Your in a Dispute. Thats what they are for.
I would make them give you a real answer, don't let them off the hook.
I had one, and it worked well, but I believe I gave it to another D* friend (also had a AM21), I know I gave them away ...
According to the tech support guy, they don't have any in stock. He said I should receive an email when and if they have them. I even told him I would accept a refurbished unit.
I'm not sure your going to find any Refurbished ones as D* doesn't ask for them back.According to the tech support guy, they don't have any in stock. He said I should receive an email when and if they have them. I even told him I would accept a refurbished unit.
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Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?
As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.
As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.
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Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
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House of the Dragon, the prequel to Game of Thrones, premieres on HBO Max on 8/21. I will be warching
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The wait’s felt a little like watching for a dragon egg to hatch, but HBO’s hugely anticipated Game of Thrones prequel series finally has a release date. House of the Dragon will debut the first of its initial 10-episode season this summer, the network revealed today in a series of tweets that...
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