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salsadancer7

Last reply Aug 27, 2010 · posted in The Sports Section

THIS is why I will NEVER side with MLB owners....

...And you know, the Marlins did not invent this nor more than likely, not the only team doing this!!:rant::rant:

What we have long suspected hardened as truth Monday when leaked financial documents left little doubt that Loria has profited big from years of spending too little on the product he presents to fans.

Now we know why the club fought so hard to keep its finances a secret even as the city and county wanted full disclosure during negotiations for its new stadium. It's because what you see when the curtain is thrown open and the light pours in is an owner who could have spent much more on players and still made money.

What you see is a ball club that was crying poverty with pockets full.

The website Deadspin.com reported detailed ``consolidated balance sheets'' of five teams, including the Marlins, and it reveals that in 2008 and '09 the Marlins had a combined operating income of some $49 million, with a net operating income -- a true, bottom-line profit -- of $33.4 million those two years.

Is it any wonder Major League Baseball publicly admonished the Marlins before this season to increase its player payroll? Now we know why. If only they did it sooner.

Marlins president David Samson hopped on a conference call to do some damage control Monday. He can spin with the best of them, but he was overwhelmed by facts.

I thought it telling that his opening statement was to huff and puff against the unknown ``criminal'' who leaked the documents. (Always love teams hiding behind the private-company shield while accepting millions in public money to build a new stadium.)

Samson scrambled, reworking the company line to jibe with the leaked documents. He has spent years claiming the payroll was low because revenue was low -- blaming the club not being profitable. Now we know revenue was high enough to make a handsome profit. So he said Monday payrolls were low to help fund the new park.

Hmm. Apparently MLB didn't buy that and is telling the club to spend more.

You begin to think of the what-ifs entailed in ``what if the Marlins spent as much as they could have all this time rather than clipping coupons?''

One major answer is that Miguel Cabrera would not have been shipped to Detroit in a cost-cutting move before the 2008 season. The Marlins had the money to sign Cabrera long-term without ending in the fiscal red. The prized slugger should still be here. His .341 average, 31 homers and 101 RBI should be in the heart of this batting order right now, helping the Marlins make the playoffs.

Samson said, ``We could have had Cabrera and no ballpark.''

Hmm, again. The net profit in 2008 was some $37.8 million -- largely because they jettisoned Cabrera's salary. That was not money toward the new park. That was profit.

Another answer to what-if is the club could have spent enough last offseason to shore up the bullpen and give itself a realistic chance at the playoffs.

You know how much the Marlins received from revenue sharing alone in 2008-09? About $92 million. Low-revenue teams are supposed to spend that to better compete. The Marlins not doing that is what led to the public admonishment that forced the payroll increase from the second-lowest of 30 teams to what still is in the bottom five.

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SandraC

Aug 24, 2010

salsadancer7 said:
I don't think he will f**k the Marlins as much as he will f**k OVER South Florida. As soon as the Marlins open that stadium, they will make the playoffs and make millions...they will sell that team and make multi-multi-multi millions and south Florida will lose OUT on those millions.

Pittsburgh has a beautiful new stadium, and that hasn't helped them out of their mess. A new stadium is no guarantee of anything. Ask the Mets.

Sandra

salsadancer7

Aug 24, 2010

SandraC said:
Pittsburgh has a beautiful new stadium, and that hasn't helped them out of their mess. A new stadium is no guarantee of anything. Ask the Mets.

Sandra

The METS overpriced themselves while trying to c of onvince themselves and the city of New York that they had a World Series contender. The overpaid alot of players and they are paying for it.

The Pirates are different. But look at Milwaukee, they have done better since they
opened the new stadium....both in success on and off the field. I figure that IF the REDS can continue on the very competitive ways for the next couple of years, I see them going the same route the Brewers went. The Orioles use to fill that stadium....when they one. When you build it and win, they will come.

SandraC

Aug 24, 2010

salsadancer7 said:
The METS overpriced themselves while trying to c of onvince themselves and the city of New York that they had a World Series contender. The overpaid alot of players and they are paying for it.

The Mets situation is WAY more complicated than that. It cannot be neatly summed up in two sentences.

The Pirates are different. But look at Milwaukee, they have done better since they
opened the new stadium....both in success on and off the field. I figure that IF the REDS can continue on the very competitive ways for the next couple of years, I see them going the same route the Brewers went. The Orioles use to fill that stadium....when they one. When you build it and win, they will come.

You do have to win, that's for sure. I'm just saying a new stadium is not a guarantee of winning. You can give examples either way.

Sandra

salsadancer7

Aug 25, 2010

SandraC said:
You do have to win, that's for sure. I'm just saying a new stadium is not a guarantee of winning. You can give examples either way.

Sandra

No, it does not guarantee winning, but it should guarentee more money to help improve the product on the field, which, if done right, will lead to winning. And now with this report, it clearly states that some of the low end markets ARE making money, but instead of the going into improving their product, it's improving owners bank accounts.

The Insider

Aug 25, 2010

salsadancer7 said:
No, it does not guarantee winning, but it should guarentee more money to help improve the product on the field, which, if done right, will lead to winning. And now with this report, it clearly states that some of the low end markets ARE making money, but instead of the going into improving their product, it's improving owners bank accounts.

Making money sure, but not a ton of money. Sorry but 35million is chump change in the grand scheme of things. Thats not even enough to cover say A-Rod in the height of his contract. If they bought a player like him now they have 0 profit. Not good business sense now is it?

SandraC

Aug 25, 2010

The Insider said:
Making money sure, but not a ton of money. Sorry but 35million is chump change in the grand scheme of things. Thats not even enough to cover say A-Rod in the height of his contract. If they bought a player like him now they have 0 profit. Not good business sense now is it?

First of all, if you are saying A-Rod makes $35 million/year, that is far from the truth. Second of all, A-Rod is not the only player available to spend money on. With good management you can improve your team greatly with $35 million, but some owners choose not to.

Sandra

The Insider

Aug 25, 2010

SandraC said:
First of all, if you are saying A-Rod makes $35 million/year, that is far from the truth. Second of all, A-Rod is not the only player available to spend money on. With good management you can improve your team greatly with $35 million, but some owners choose not to.

Sandra

Yes the Marlins choose not to spend ALL there money. They are in this business to make money.

35million could get you maybe 2 stars maybe three. But then you are broke. No more profit. What happens next year if ticket sales are down? Now your even deeper in the hole.

The marlins were according to ESPN, #25 in player salaries in 2009. But they came in second place in the NL East. Ahead of the Braves (15th in salary) The Mets (5th in Salary) and the Nationals (22nd in salary) Not to mention Better records then the Cubs (3rd in salary), etc.

So it seems to me even though they kept a little money they still did better then teams who spent more then them.

Sure they could spend another 15-20 million and get 2 more good players, and it may even make them win the NL East. But I cant really be that mad at them for taking there profit this year. Who knows maybe they are building a war chest to buy another world series?

The Insider

Aug 25, 2010

Well of course, you have to make good baseball decisions. That is where the Marlins have failed.

They could own that roster you just posted and still keep the 30million by getting rid of people who are not as good as the new comers.

salsadancer7

Aug 26, 2010

The Insider said:
Sure they could spend another 15-20 million and get 2 more good players, and it may even make them win the NL East. But I cant really be that mad at them for taking there profit this year. Who knows maybe they are building a war chest to buy another world series?

BUT, if you tell your fans that they cannot spend on free agents because you are LOSING money, then hell ya, you have been lied to! It is one thing to say, 'look, we are spending the money in other areas....scouting, minor leagues, construction cost to the/a new stadium...." Fans with half a brain would accept that. But to blantantly state, 'hey, we cannot spend money on free agents because we are not making money and account afford it.....'..that is BS and a flat out lie. Checkout what Sampson, President of Operations for the Marlins stated yesterday on the Dan LeBetard show:

The Flagship Station for South Florida Sports

On the section that states "790 the Ticket on demand", the first audio is of Sampson. LeBatard was hitting him hard with questions....I was VERY shocked that he did not throw softball questions, especially since 790 the Ticket is the broadcast station for Marlin games.

salsadancer7

Aug 26, 2010

The Insider said:
Well of course, you have to make good baseball decisions. That is where the Marlins have failed.

They could own that roster you just posted and still keep the 30million by getting rid of people who are not as good as the new comers.

The have failed in adding payroll. But as a team performing, you cannot say that. They have been pretty competitive in a very tough division that has spent alot more money than they have.

The Insider

Aug 26, 2010

salsadancer7 said:
BUT, if you tell your fans that they cannot spend on free agents because you are LOSING money, then hell ya, you have been lied to! It is one thing to say, 'look, we are spending the money in other areas....scouting, minor leagues, construction cost to the/a new stadium...." Fans with half a brain would accept that. But to blantantly state, 'hey, we cannot spend money on free agents because we are not making money and account afford it.....'..that is BS and a flat out lie. Checkout what Sampson, President of Operations for the Marlins stated yesterday on the Dan LeBetard show:

The Flagship Station for South Florida Sports

On the section that states "790 the Ticket on demand", the first audio is of Sampson. LeBatard was hitting him hard with questions....I was VERY shocked that he did not throw softball questions, especially since 790 the Ticket is the broadcast station for Marlin games.

Do you know if that 35million they just made is going to pay for the stadium or not?

The Insider

Aug 26, 2010

salsadancer7 said:
The have failed in adding payroll. But as a team performing, you cannot say that. They have been pretty competitive in a very tough division that has spent alot more money than they have.

They have remained competitive and saved some money. That sounds like a good thing for the team no?

salsadancer7

Aug 27, 2010

The Insider said:
Do you know if that 35million they just made is going to pay for the stadium or not?

They stated that they were saving for stadium cost AFTER THE FACT. IF they had stated that from day one, there isn't a single Marlins fan that would not have sided with them. IF you get a chance, LISTEN to the at interview from the link I posted from 790 The Ticket's interview with team president Sampson.

You will hear more back peddling and "rope-adoping" than Ali vs. Frazer.

salsadancer7

Aug 27, 2010

The Insider said:
They have remained competitive and saved some money. That sounds like a good thing for the team no?

It's a great thing...when you do not lie to the fanbase! It is one thing to say, 'we did not make the profits we hoped/expected.....' blah, blah, blah.....

...it's another to say, 'we are losing money and therefore we have to trade one of the best young hitters in all of baseball in Miguel Cabrera....'

..*cough* bullsh!7 *cough* :rant:

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Yespage

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Last reply 8 minutes ago · posted in The Sports Section

FIFA World Cup of Horrors

Mexico takes on South Africa to open the World Cup Final (it is called the Final... this just isn't the World Cup Final... Final). The tournament has been plagued with rife malfeasance as FIFA has been committing all sorts of fraud with the ticket sales. Hotel rooms have gone unfilled as the prices to attend a game and stay somewhere are through the roof. I swear this is impacting Mansfield, OH hotel rates which are higher than average for the Indycar race. And there is a broadening VAR presence which will ruin things as nothing worse now when scoring a goal and knowing you can't quite celebrate yet as they check to see if a player was offside by a pixel a half-hour ago.

The Group Stage used to mean something, but now 32 of the 48... yeah, 48 teams are going to the Knockout Round. Getting into the Knockout Round used to be a big deal, even for the US. But now... if you don't lose all of your group stage games, you get to move on. Oi! And this is avoiding all the political stuff!

I have never been so unexcited for a World Cup before. Every game used to matter. But FIFA be darned if they don't try to squeeze out every dime they can out of the players, refs, and fans.

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osu1991

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I have no interest in watching it this year.

Bruce

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Last reply 9 minutes ago · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum

How things have changed

I was reading this article

Cable TV ‘cord-cutters’ became the majority in 2022

The steady decline of cable and broadcast television, and the rise of streaming services, reached a sort of inflection point over the past year. Last summer, for the first time, streaming ser…

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That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.

Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.

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Bruce

Jun 4, 2026

Comcast Corporation, one of the largest telecommunications and media conglomerates in the United States, has shed more than 13 million pay-TV subscribers since reaching its zenith in the late 2000s. The company's video subscriber base, which includes traditional cable television services, stood at approximately 24.2 million customers toward the end of 2008. By the close of the first quarter of 2026, that figure had plummeted to roughly10.95 million, representing a loss of about 13.25 million subscribers, or more than half of its historical peak.

Comcast Has Lost Over 13 Million TV Subscribers Since It Peaked Back in 2008 - A Look Back At This Historic Fall That Saw It Lose More Than Half of Its TV Subscribers | Cord Cutters News

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dishdude

Jun 4, 2026

Bruce said:
Comcast Corporation, one of the largest telecommunications and media conglomerates in the United States, has shed more than 13 million pay-TV subscribers since reaching its zenith in the late 2000s. The company's video subscriber base, which includes traditional cable television services, stood at approximately 24.2 million customers toward the end of 2008. By the close of the first quarter of 2026, that figure had plummeted to roughly10.95 million, representing a loss of about 13.25 million subscribers, or more than half of its historical peak.

Comcast Has Lost Over 13 Million TV Subscribers Since It Peaked Back in 2008 - A Look Back At This Historic Fall That Saw It Lose More Than Half of Its TV Subscribers | Cord Cutters News

Comcast Corporation, one of the largest telecommunications and media conglomerates in the United States, has shed more than 13 million pay-TV subscribers since reaching its zenith in the late 2000s. The company’s video subscriber base, which includes traditional cable television services, stood...

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Couldn't happen to a nicer company!

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Bruce

Sunday at 10:17 AM

The average monthly cost of cable television in the United States has climbed to $147, marking a significant increase that reflects broader trends in media consumption and rising operational expenses for providers. This figure represents the baseline expense for standard television packages across major cable operators, excluding additional fees for premium channels, equipment rentals, or taxes that often push household bills even higher.

This is without Broadband services ( bundled), also, paying a lot more for a lot less new scripted content and now….sports.

The Cost of Cable TV Has Jumped Almost 55% Over the Last 10 Years | Cord Cutters News

The average monthly cost of cable television in the United States has climbed to $147, marking a significant increase that reflects broader trends in media consumption and rising operational expenses for providers. This figure represents the baseline expense for standard television packages...

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telstar_1

54 minutes ago

Anyone know how Canadians are doing with cord cutting? I would think there could be added incentive simply in that Canadian cable/sat has been heavily regulated to exclude much of US content in order to promote home content. Streaming would seem to cut through any of that, presuming there aren't restrictions on that as well. Or maybe US streamers won't sell there?

NYDutch

9 minutes ago

telstar_1 said:
Anyone know how Canadians are doing with cord cutting? I would think there could be added incentive simply in that Canadian cable/sat has been heavily regulated to exclude much of US content in order to promote home content. Streaming would seem to cut through any of that, presuming there aren't restrictions on that as well. Or maybe US streamers won't sell there?

Some of the most popular streaming apps, like YTTV, Netflix, Hulu, and others, are geo locked to at least one country, if not even tighter. There are ways around that for the technically inclined.

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Last reply 10 minutes ago · posted in The Sports Section

NCAA Softball

Anybody been following the Tournaments? I've been watching all weekend on the various ESPN's...

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dfergie

Jun 4, 2026

Better team won tonight…

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osu1991

Jun 4, 2026

Well crap. That wasn't fun. Oh well on to the CFL opener on cbs sportsnet.

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Jun 4, 2026

"In the end, there can be only one" - Duncan MacCleod of the clan MacCleod

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Today at 3:58 PM

Last weekend I got in on a MLB game top of the 8th 1-1, first thought was extra innings...

and it actually went extra after the 9th.
Catching a little of the AUSL, something to watch when I can't get into anything else.

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10 minutes ago

I watched some of the OKC Texas game on dvr this afternoon while visiting my mom. I had set it to record the season for her, but she has trouble with using the dvr and barely can use the live guide. Usually softball is the first suggestion YTTV puts up when she clicks the tile though, so it works well enough for her.

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telstar_1

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Last reply Today at 6:01 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

audio levels from channel to channel

Wasn't there a law passed a long time back mandating service providers level the sound from one ch. to the next? Or was that just for within any single given ch., and not letting commercials be boosted? Regardless it's a pain on DiSH with some ch's way louder than others, and having to jockey the sound up & down. Is there some fix? Can some TVs compensate for this?

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tsunami2311

Nov 12, 2025

depend on how you tv and box is setup? as both have "audio" leveling

for me if I have audio leveling on hopper enabled DD is lower then Stereo if i turn off on h3 turn on tv it the reverse. Almost ALL streaming channels much lower volume level then statalite channels.

Either way one my pet peaves is that even channel seem to have it own "audio level" and so to commericals and none of the actual audio leveling functions actual fix this and never have. would be nice if every channel dish/dtv/fios etc all made volume level defualt to same dB so atlest all channel where consistent volume probably wont help commercials though.

To my knowledge no TV has ever had audio leveling function that actual fixed that all it really does it either lower or raise the volume

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Former member 208119

Nov 12, 2025

tsunami2311 said:
depend on how you tv and box is setup? as both have "audio" leveling

for me if I have audio leveling on hopper enabled DD is lower then Stereo if i turn off on h3 turn on tv it the reverse. Almost ALL streaming channels much lower volume level then statalite channels.

Either way one my pet peaves is that even channel seem to have it own "audio level" and so to commericals and none of the actual audio leveling functions actual fix this and never have. would be nice if every channel dish/dtv/fios etc all made volume level defualt to same dB so atlest all channel where consistent volume probably wont help commercials though.

To my knowledge no TV has ever had audio leveling function that actual fixed that all it really does it either lower or raise the volume

maybe he should post his gear so we could look into it

.. t.v. soundbars AVR whatever he's running.. our home theater has volume leveling but so does our soundbar in the bedroom

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tsunami2311

Nov 13, 2025

John2021 said:
maybe he should post his gear so we could look into it .. t.v. soundbars AVR whatever he's running.. our home theater has volume leveling but so does our soundbar in the bedroom

Most stuff has all this volume leveling, almost all them dont work the way should or advertised as. maybe "ai" versions of volume level will work closer to way we would like to which make all channels and inputs same defualt sound level, including commercials

There is reason my entire mp3/audio music collection on my pc was changed to have same defualt "dB" for all files via something like MP3Gain so there all same defualt volume level and there for I never have to play around with my volume. I know Winamp could change dB defualts but never worked as good as just manual changing all the audio/mp3/music collection files to just be all the same

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telstar_1

Nov 13, 2025

But doesn't music require a lot of dynamic range? At least classical & the like? So there has to be allowance for some highs without attenuation, and some lows without boosting. It seems there needs to be some kind of a universal median level that all sources can register to, that still allows for both soft and loud intermittently. My dad always had westerns on and the gunshots really rang out

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Strega

Nov 14, 2025

That's a fundamental issue with volume levels - it's not just that people want some "level" but that the material itself can demand (or at least so says the creator) a wide dynamic range or a smaller one. ie: do you boost the typical conversations upward and use most of your range just for voices? Or do you leave room for the explosions and jet engines. Creators and viewer/listeners all vary in their priorities, and most volume-leveling products are trying to do things in real time so they have very little context to work with. Even when using a tool that reads a whole file and displays a peak volume, you can wonder how often such a volume occurs and then you can disagree on how important it is for something like an explosion to have any clipping/distortion.

I think the OP refers to the Commercial Advertisement Loudness Mitigation Act, AKA the CALM act. But as the name suggests, I think it only has to do with commercials and not different sources.

By the way, if you watch westerns with realistic gunshot sound levels, I recommend hearing protection.

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tsunami2311

Nov 16, 2025

I will say this on PC it worse one game is one volume level by defualt another is super quiet and another deafening loud, and volume leveling dont equalize it. The dynamic range isnt the problem the defualt volume is not same from channel to channel, commercial to commercial game to game.

To mean volume leveling is defeat volume level from source to source channel to channel, commercial to commercial, game to game.

Default volume level of 89.9 dB across the board fixes that tv providers can easily do this from there end and mandate commercial creators follow it, but it wont ever happen

Maybe volume leveling means somthing else to other people

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telstar_1

Today at 6:01 PM

This only if anything seems to be worsening on DiSH. Ch. 215 is a prime example. It's typically much louder than other ch's, and today I notice it even contradicting itself, shifting drastically up and down inexplicably over periods of several minutes. Oddly, the quietest periods have come during commercials...

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Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply Today at 6:00 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Today at 9:50 AM

Right on Time - Brandi Carlile

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Today at 11:00 AM

Time Stand Still - Rush

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Today at 11:08 AM

I Can't Help It (If I'm Still In Love With You) - B.J. Thomas

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Today at 3:37 PM

Help Is On Its Way - Little River Band

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Bobby

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Last reply Today at 5:49 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish 4K Event Listings (No Discussion)

This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.

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Bobby

Tuesday at 5:27 PM

WC, Canada vs Bosnia and Herzegovina, Friday 6-12, 12PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, USA vs Paraguay, Friday 6-12, 6PM PDT, Channel 540-01.

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Bobby

Tuesday at 5:34 PM

WC, Qatar vs Switzerland, Saturday 6-13, 12PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Brazil vs Morocco, Saturday 6-13, 3PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Haiti vs Scotland, Saturday 6-13, 6PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Australia vs Türkiye, Saturday 6-13, 9PM PDT, Channel 540-02

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Bobby

Tuesday at 5:42 PM

WC, Germany vs Curaçao, Sunday 6-14, 10AM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Netherlands vs Japan, Sunday 6-14, 1PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Côte d'Ivoire vs Equador, Sunday 6-14, 4PM PDT, Channel 540-02.
WC, Sweden vs Tunisia, Sunday 6-14, 7PM PDT, Channel 540-02.

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Today at 5:42 PM

WC, Belgium vs Egypt, Monday 6-15, 12PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Saudi Arabia vs Uruguay, Monday 6-15, 3PM PDT, Channel 540-02.
WC, Iran vs New Zealand, Monday 6-15, 6PM PDT, Channel 540-02.

Bobby

Today at 5:49 PM

WC, France vs Senegal, Tuesday 6-16, 12PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Iraq vs Norway, Tuesday 6-16, 3PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Argentina vs Algeria, Tuesday 6-16, 6PM PDT, Channel 540-01.
WC, Austria vs Jordan, Tuesda6 6-16, 9PM PDT, Channel 540-02.

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Gary Toma

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Last reply Today at 5:32 PM · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum

DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 6/10/2026

The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:

National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)

Additional tabs provide:

OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders

Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D9S, D16
@103W.... D10, D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8

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KyL416

Yesterday at 7:31 AM

604 Pursuit HD is testing

Women's US Open Out, Men's US Open and World Cup in

The World Cup Bracket on 205-6 and 407-2 will be repurposing CINEHD 154
(There will be a mix on one of the 205s and 407-1)

The Vegas specific slate for KTNV is repurposing Dispute Slide 1 Test 9109

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lordodogg

Yesterday at 7:46 AM

KyL416 said:
604 Pursuit HD is testing

Interesting. I remember that being HD-only for a bit a long time ago and then it was back to SD-only.

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lordodogg

Yesterday at 8:20 AM

lordodogg said:
Interesting. I remember that being HD-only for a bit a long time ago and then it was back to SD-only.

looking at the old maps, that was from March 2017 to June 2019.

lordodogg

Today at 4:58 PM

Starz is apparently dropping all of the west coast feeds of their networks tomorrow. FiOS has already dropped most of the ones they carried and I imagine DirecTV would be affected with STZw on 526 and SENw on 536.

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lordodogg

Today at 5:02 PM

seems to actually only be affecting their sister channels, not the main channels

KyL416

Today at 5:32 PM

Starz, Starz Encore and Starz Encore Westerns are keeping their west coast feeds. The rest of the Starz, Starz Encore and Plex channels will only have East coast feeds

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zippyfrog

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply Today at 5:29 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Price Increase on Owned Equipment?

Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.

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telstar_1

Today at 1:28 PM

Does cable charge box rent?

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RJT79

Today at 4:47 PM

telstar_1 said:
Does cable charge box rent?

The cable company I was with years ago did charge $9.99 for a receiver.

RJ T.
From Illinois

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RJT79

Today at 5:03 PM

zippyfrog said:
Did anyone have a price increase today on their equipment? I own my VIP211k's, and they have been $5.00. My bill that I received last week shows the "add-ons" as being $5.00. However, I just logged into my Dish account, and my "add-ons" are now $10.00. Did the additional receivers go up by $5.00 recently?

As I mentioned, my last bill shows $5.00 and under the notes, nothing is mentioned about a price increase.

I went to try to add the Heartland channel as dummy to see what it would do for me as I own my receiver and have DISH Outdoors and this is what mine shows. (Note however I had to take the 2nd receiver I told you I added the other day off because I was told you can only have 1 receiver when you have a one outlet on the Dish Playmaker and was having issues with the 2nd receiver and I didn't know that and that was done yesterday as well so I am back to one receiver.)

Let's upgrade your package.

Your monthly bill will increase by $6.00 per month.

Breakdown

June 11, 2026 - July 11, 2026
You are changing your programming in the middle of the bill cycle. The bill shown below is your bill for next month including prorations and credits. Your following bill will return to the fixed rate. This bill will take effect from now until July 11, 2026.
Monthly Services
$86.99
Flex Pack
$72.99
Local Channels
$14.00
Add-Ons
$68.98
National Action Pack
$12.00
Regional Action Pack
$12.00
News Pack
$10.00
Paramount+ with Showtime
$10.00
Drama and Classics Pack
$6.00
Heartland Pack
$6.00
Starz Encore Movies
$6.00
On DISH Magazine
$4.99
Starz 2 Mo ($11)
$1.99
Prorated Charges
$7.93
Heartland Pack Jun 11 - Jul 20
$7.93
Order Total
$7.93
Prorated Total
$7.93
Due Today
$7.93

Transition Bill Total
$156.10
Proposed Changes
Your monthly bill will increase by $6.00 per month
Monthly Services
$86.99
Add-Ons
$68.98
FCC Regulatory Surcharge
$0.13
Taxes & Surcharges
$0.00

Monthly Total
$156.10
Prorated Total
$7.93
Order Total
$7.93

Due Today
$7.93

Sounds like an issue with DISH Billing

RJ T.
From Illinois

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zippyfrog

Today at 5:19 PM

I asked again, and the rep I talked to said it is a glitch and that "Access for TV" shouldn't be there - the rep pulled up my future month bills and that charge isn't on it. So I am not going to worry about it right now, but it will be interesting to see when the price changes happen later this year. Will this line item show up? The fact that it is a specific item that is different from anything makes me think it is more than a glitch. But we shall see.

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RJT79

Today at 5:29 PM

zippyfrog said:
I asked again, and the rep I talked to said it is a glitch and that "Access for TV" shouldn't be there - the rep pulled up my future month bills and that charge isn't on it. So I am not going to worry about it right now, but it will be interesting to see when the price changes happen later this year. Will this line item show up? The fact that it is a specific item that is different from anything makes me think it is more than a glitch. But we shall see.

I am hoping they don't add this down the road. Things are expensive the way it is now. Even DIRECTV allows the first receiver free. This would go against DISH and DISH is already loosing subscribers I wouldn't think they would do these kind of tricks but you never know. Always look at your bills for unknow charges. I heard horror stories of people getting charged for things they didn't know were there.

RJ T.
From Illinois

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zippyfrog

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Today at 5:26 PM · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone

Purchasing New iPhone

I feel like this was discussed in another thread, but I can't find it. I have T-Mobile and my last iPhone upgrade was in 2020. I want to get a new iPhone, but what is the best way to go about doing it? Should I order the iPhone from T-Mobile directly, or should I buy from the Apple Store? I feel like there are pros/cons to each option.

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teachtom

Last reply Today at 5:17 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Problem when I switch from Bonus View channels back to regular Dish channels

Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks

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HipKat

Today at 5:07 PM

teachtom said:
Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks

First off, great TV. I'm torn between the 77C5 or the 77G5.
It sounds like the handshake between the Receiver and the TV is having a problem. Are you using the free cable that came with the Joey or a higher speed HDMI cable?? That's the f irst place I'd look

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RJT79

Today at 5:17 PM

teachtom said:
Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks

First off, The analog to digital switch, also known as the digital television transition, is the process of converting older analog television broadcasting technology to digital broadcasting. It's used through coaxial cable for the an antenna during the mandatory switch from Analog to Digital on June 12, 2009. You either had to get a converter for your analog (Tube TV) or use a converter box that has the analog or digital tuner or an HDTV which your is and has the tuner built in. Your TV is HD and using an HDMI Cable and nothing is connected by coaxial cable so this wouldn't apply.

In my theory it probably means a new TV. I had a TV go out on my switching between the Smart Screen from the HDMI inputs before because they went faulty. Sometimes electrical surges can cause this. If you have an older home or rent an older home or apartment sometimes the electrical outlets are not grounded and these days HDTV's need a ground which can cause them to malfunction and go bad quicker. Never plug it directly in an outlet. It will damage the TV.

Hope I could be of some assistance.

RJ T.
From Illinois

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