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Hello,

I am new to this forum and need some assistance. Here are my two problems:

1. Living in a HOA and have been handed a list of rule - one says I can not install a Dish on my roof......and I bought the place. Have seen that the FCC ruled in '96 that they can not stop people from installing a dish on a roof unless it is a safety concern....true/false and any gov/court doc. that support this?

2. Had a "Dish" installer out to give some ideas of placement and was told I could not get a signal that would provide "locals" as I have trees on the back side of the house that block the signal. I was provided another option to still get "Dish Network" signal but without locals.....ideas on how I can get locals without supporting Time Warner?

Thanks for any help you can provide.......
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cditty
And, if they can't find a place, get them to throw in an OTA module and put up an antenna. Or better yet, tell the HOA if they don't let you mount on the roof, you will have to install a huge OTA antenna in addition to the satellite. Maybe they will be more flexible.
chicagonettech
If you own the house you can put the dish on the roof - or wherever you can find LOS for the satellite - so long as it is on your property.

They CANNOT require you to submit plans.
They CANNOT require you to give advance notice.
They CANNOT require you to get a permit.
They CANNOT require you to pay an additional fee, whether one-time, or monthly, to the HOA.
They CANNOT force you to use a pre-authorized cable service or company.
They CANNOT force you to use a pre-authorized installer.
They CANNOT force you to hide the dish under camouflage.

Additionally, NO VILLAGE, CITY, TOWN, nor any other governmental body, can cause you to file a permit, or pay a fee, to install an OTA antenna.

These actions have been tried, time and time again, by HOAs, and in some cases, municipalities, and they have been repeatedly shot down by the Commission. Go to the website referenced in the earlier message, familiarize yourself with the rules and regulations, and if necessary, call the Commission for clarification.

If you own the house, and it is NOT a TOWNHOUSE or CONDOMINIUM, whether you live in an area governed by an HOA or not, you have the right to put up any OTA antenna covered under the Commissions rules, so long as it is not more than 12 feet above the highest point where it is mounted. OTA antennas include satellite dishes - up to ONE METER. If necessary, you can also put up a high-gain antenna for standard television reception IN ADDITION to the satellite dish.

[You can still install satellite dishes in owned town homes and condominiums, but they are covered by slightly different rules with regard to the allowable areas of placement.]

If they, the HOA, gives you a problem, then file a complaint with the FCC. The Commission will investigate and they have the authority to FINE the HOA if the HOA fails to comply with the OTA rules and fails to allow you to put up a dish or an antenna.

While some like to tread lightly with HOAs, the Commission makes it VERY clear in their rulings they no one can disallow the use of OTAs covered under those rules and has actually taken several HOAs to court to enforce homeowner's rights.
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THANKS EVERYONE -

I Can not get a signal from the roof that provides "local" channels so they have to install a dish that would point in a diff. direction. I want to be able to DVR those channels (ie. ABC, CBS, NBC, & FOX) so if I have an antenna installed how can/will that work?

I am trying to be nice and wait for them to "accept" my request for the install - but I just watched as they required two others remove there dishes because the didn't ask. Just because these peeps are old and want to make there own laws just pisses me off as it is. HOA or not - the law is the law.
T
Some Dish DVRs have the ability to receive OTA broadcasts and can DVR them as well. For example, the 622 and 722 DVRs have an OTA module built in to the receiver...just hook up an antenna. The 722K receiver has an optional OTA module that can record 2 OTA channels at the same time.

The HOA is violating the law by requiring those two people to remove their dishes. Those 2 people could have told the HOA to get lost!
chicagonettech
THANKS EVERYONE -

I Can not get a signal from the roof that provides "local" channels so they have to install a dish that would point in a diff. direction. I want to be able to DVR those channels (ie. ABC, CBS, NBC, & FOX) so if I have an antenna installed how can/will that work?

I am trying to be nice and wait for them to "accept" my request for the install - but I just watched as they required two others remove there dishes because the didn't ask. Just because these peeps are old and want to make there own laws just pisses me off as it is. HOA or not - the law is the law.

Quite being nice.

You DO NOT HAVE TO MAKE A REQUEST the HOA asking permission to place a dish on your roof.

You do not have to wait for them to accept it - they will ignore it and never accept it if you don't force the issue.

The FCC, and the LAW, are on your side.

If it takes 10 dishes and an off-the-air antenna to receive all the channels you want, and they all have to be placed on your roof for proper line-of-site, your homeowner's association cannot say crap.

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO ASK THEIR PERMISSION.

Just do it. If they give you a problem, call the FCC.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Best fan sign I saw during the ND-BYU game: "Bear ate your Lucky Charms!" (Bear being the Cougars' QB). I was going to suggest, "Have you or your team been involved in a Carr crash?"
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.😈. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!
Yup, I agree, I'd rather be 2 or 3 till the last few weeks.
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
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Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


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Browns lead the AFC North 🤣

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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
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No idea what improvements might be involved.
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Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.
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Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"
Here's the one I need:
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dishstaller
Here's the one I need:
Just ordered one....that's great.
jsmit86
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
long_time_Dish
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin
Almighty1
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner

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SuperDish_Fan23
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Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
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HipKat
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
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Well if it is because of reliability that wouldnt shock me.I went through 5 or 6 of them in little over 2 years. I loved the Sling when it worked! Saved lots of money having it in the day. That was probably 15 or 16 years ago?
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I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.
I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.
Nominal
I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.
You are thinking of the 921. The 922 was the first DVR with Sling functionality built in (that was eventually disabled along with the Sling Adapter for the 722s and the 1st Hopper because they relied on now-defunct Adobe Flash technology). With the bugginess described by others and the removal of its marquee feature (Sling) the 922 faded into obscurity once the Hopper 2 with built in Sling was released and they finally made the concept into a fully functional product.
dishdude
I had one, the front panel lighting was cool, the menus were fresh and a lot more modern looking than the ViPs. However, it was very buggy and the Sling functionality just didn't work well - I think it was due to internet speeds at the time. I think I had to pay $40 for the Sling app on my phone iirc.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Take It To The Limit - The Eagles
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Take It To The Limit - The Eagles
The two instances of "The" should have been highlighted.

Take
Me to the River - Talking Heads
dishstaller
Blinded By The Light - Manfred Mann's Earth Band
Bobby
I Saw The Light - Todd Rundgren
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We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Two Chicago style hot dogs and a Fanta orange soda.
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Little mini pepperoni pizza, green beans, apples and chocolate milk.
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Fanta orange soda.
Sitting in fridge cooling off, bought 1 along with 2 Mexican Cokes at La Tienda... (I keep a few cokes stashed as well as in fridge and camper fridge)
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Garlic cheese bread
Green beans
Apples
Chocolate Milk
Some weird noodles. ;)
(They have salad and a couple other fruits if wanted)
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Club sandwich and corn chowder. Iced tea.
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Chili dog bowl, water… (homemade chili)
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Stargate SG-1 cancelled, Atlantis renewed
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Monday - August 21, 2006 | by Darren Sumner
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The future of Stargate is in question today, as SCI FI Channel has cancelled the long-running Stargate SG-1, Multichannel News reported today and a GateWorld source has confirmed. The news regrettably follows the airing of the show's milestone two-hundredth episode on Friday.

Stargate Atlantis, meanwhile, has been renewed for a fourth season, with the network hoping to see that the spin-off series can stand alone, according to a source.
Source Gateworld
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dfergie
The Tokra pt 1, I know pt 2 will be next...
(came across on Pluto tv live, went to media server for "clean" version)
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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
osu1991
long_time_Dish
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
R
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.