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I recently picked up an old Janiel Junion 6 ft SOLID aluminum dish and polarmount. It has been sitting for a very long time and the scaler ring is corroded and bolts are rusted and a couple wrung off when I tried to remove them.
What I want is to use an Invacom LNBF on this primarily for Ku and some C stuff along with having the capability of receiving circular stuff too.
So I've been looking at both the QPF-031 and QPH-031 and I bought of of those adapters to mount an Invacom on with the 40mm clamp.
So which one of these two LNBFs is suppose to work with this dish/mount?
Does either need that scaler ring that the bolts broke off in?
Here is a picture of what I have to work with.
Thanks
What I want is to use an Invacom LNBF on this primarily for Ku and some C stuff along with having the capability of receiving circular stuff too.
So I've been looking at both the QPF-031 and QPH-031 and I bought of of those adapters to mount an Invacom on with the 40mm clamp.
So which one of these two LNBFs is suppose to work with this dish/mount?
Does either need that scaler ring that the bolts broke off in?
Here is a picture of what I have to work with.
Thanks
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I can't see birds that far east, so pardon my confusion.
However, 40°w bird is circular C-band.
The Ck1 and DMX741 can do circular C-band with the dielectric insert.
Whether a 6' dish is large enough, I couldn't say.
However, if you rig an LNBF for circular, it's not optimized for linear.
So you either need two Siamese twin LNBFs, or another solution.
Getting a Ck-1 or DMX741 to perform well on KU, on a prime focus dish, will require very careful alignment.
Also, due to the limited field of view, it won't see the entire dish.
So an alternative would be a better choice if maximum signal is a requirement.
The simple GeoSatPro SL1P would perform better.
Yes, the QPF-031 (F=Flange to attach to a feedhorn, H=includes feed Horn) is matched to the prime focus dish with an AF-120 feedhorn, which sells for about $25.
But, if you mount the QPF-031 at the dish's focus, then it's Ku-only.
Lastly, I'm not seeing a lot of use for circular Ku these days...
Might want to rethink or re-describe the goals, and we can maybe come up with ideas more matched to your needs. -
However, 40°w bird is circular C-band.
The Ck1 and DMX741 can do circular C-band with the dielectric insert.
Whether a 6' dish is large enough, I couldn't say.
However, if you rig an LNBF for circular, it's not optimized for linear.
So you either need two Siamese twin LNBFs, or another solution.
Getting a Ck-1 or DMX741 to perform well on KU, on a prime focus dish, will require very careful alignment.
Also, due to the limited field of view, it won't see the entire dish.
So an alternative would be a better choice if maximum signal is a requirement.
The simple GeoSatPro SL1P would perform better.
Yes, the QPF-031 (F=Flange to attach to a feedhorn, H=includes feed Horn) is matched to the prime focus dish with an AF-120 feedhorn, which sells for about $25.
But, if you mount the QPF-031 at the dish's focus, then it's Ku-only.
Lastly, I'm not seeing a lot of use for circular Ku these days...
Might want to rethink or re-describe the goals, and we can maybe come up with ideas more matched to your needs. -
Thanks for your reply.
Although I've had a 10 ft BUD since 1988 I'm a little bit ignorant about this FTA/DVB stuff and mainly depend on others that are "in the know" for advice/guidance on what to get so you'll have to bear with me.
As far as goals go, I want it all on one dish.
While I realize that this 6 footer won't get all the Cband stuff that's up there, some guys say it will get some of it. I'll still have a 10 or 12 foot mesh dish and my GI920 as a mover for that.
The 6 footer will start out with an old Echostar 7000 receiver that I originally got with my BUD in 88 as a dish mover only. Later on will probably migrate to something different to move the dish but to begin with I can use the Echostar as a dish mover with the FTA AZBox slaved to it or just connected to the coax by itself. Have to wait to see how that turns out. Using an LNBF will also eliminate the need for polarity changes by the receiver, which is a few less wires to run.
The reason for circular is that sometimes there's ITC feeds on some sats that are primarily circular, ie, 40.5W and a few others. Had a couple of guys recommend that Invacom on another board but gave few specific reasons for that choice other than it's a good unit.
So far the only thing I've bought for this 6 footer is the adapter ring to hold the LNBF but after looking at the Cband LNB that came off that thing I may need that LNBF scaler ring extension thingie to get the focal depth right.
So yeah, any suggestions you got, I'm all ears so let'r fly! And I do like to hear opinions from others as well.
Although I've had a 10 ft BUD since 1988 I'm a little bit ignorant about this FTA/DVB stuff and mainly depend on others that are "in the know" for advice/guidance on what to get so you'll have to bear with me.
As far as goals go, I want it all on one dish.
While I realize that this 6 footer won't get all the Cband stuff that's up there, some guys say it will get some of it. I'll still have a 10 or 12 foot mesh dish and my GI920 as a mover for that. The 6 footer will start out with an old Echostar 7000 receiver that I originally got with my BUD in 88 as a dish mover only. Later on will probably migrate to something different to move the dish but to begin with I can use the Echostar as a dish mover with the FTA AZBox slaved to it or just connected to the coax by itself. Have to wait to see how that turns out. Using an LNBF will also eliminate the need for polarity changes by the receiver, which is a few less wires to run.
The reason for circular is that sometimes there's ITC feeds on some sats that are primarily circular, ie, 40.5W and a few others. Had a couple of guys recommend that Invacom on another board but gave few specific reasons for that choice other than it's a good unit.
So far the only thing I've bought for this 6 footer is the adapter ring to hold the LNBF but after looking at the Cband LNB that came off that thing I may need that LNBF scaler ring extension thingie to get the focal depth right.
So yeah, any suggestions you got, I'm all ears so let'r fly!
And I do like to hear opinions from others as well.
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So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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No idea what improvements might be involved.
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Please post your remote make/model here and any details of your issue. We are looking to collect as many examples as possible. I may reach out to you for your receiver number, but please do not post it here.
If you've already reported this to me, please repost it here so I can track all instances in one thread.
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If you've already reported this to me, please repost it here so I can track all instances in one thread.
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I was having similar issues last night while watching and recording the NLCS game on 148. When I tried resuming the game at one point the screen went blank and I couldn't get my H3 to respond to any remote commands. Eventually the Hopper went to a HD channel but still no remote response. After a while the Hopper went into a re-boot cycle. This happened at least 3 times. I was using an IR universal remote only.
A little frustrating to have the game broken up like that but at least the Brewers won
Yea, I've only been a CIO for the last 30 years!
Trust me, when something important breaks, they get to own it!
This started a couple months ago. I have 2 H3s on one network, both with 2 EHD identical 3 TB seperately powered so all recordings are accessible by all 4k & J4s (8 of them).
On one H3 (not the main one that controls the MOCA network), after it reboots, it doesn't recognize it has two EHDs plugged into it. Rebooting the EHD by their power source doesn't fix it. Resetting the network doesn't. Software h3 reset doesn't fix it. Rebooting MOCA h3 doesn't fix it but so far, after 3+ cold boots (unplug pwr to H3 with unrecognized EHDs), it finally it figures out they are plugged into it. BUT.... Then when you open a program it only partially shows series and episodes, but instead of showing recordings, it only shows upcoming airings. HELP!!!!
On one H3 (not the main one that controls the MOCA network), after it reboots, it doesn't recognize it has two EHDs plugged into it. Rebooting the EHD by their power source doesn't fix it. Resetting the network doesn't. Software h3 reset doesn't fix it. Rebooting MOCA h3 doesn't fix it but so far, after 3+ cold boots (unplug pwr to H3 with unrecognized EHDs), it finally it figures out they are plugged into it. BUT.... Then when you open a program it only partially shows series and episodes, but instead of showing recordings, it only shows upcoming airings. HELP!!!!
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Thanks JohnGalt1234 - That's interesting. I wonder are the Boot Strap versions different between a Hopper 3 only and a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus setup as I have the later. I guess when charlesrshell is able to since he has both setups, he can do the test. Unless the bootstrap version is tied to when the specific Hopper 3 is manufactured, in my case, mines is from February 2016 when it was installed.
At least Google Search AI is saying the bootstrap version will never change and unique to each Hopper 3.
This is probably why different people seem to either have the issue or they don't because the bootstrap code could also be tied to the hardware revision and
components other than the internal HD.
At least Google Search AI is saying the bootstrap version will never change and unique to each Hopper 3.
This is probably why different people seem to either have the issue or they don't because the bootstrap code could also be tied to the hardware revision and
components other than the internal HD.
JohnGalt1234 - So you basically have 2 Hopper 3's. The CasinoH3 is the one that is Hopper 3 only while Master Bedroom is a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus setup.
Master Bedroom uses Android TV (ATV) software so the DISH part is actually a app and will behave differently as you can probably tell the Guide's are different on the Master Bedroom which will resemble the same guide used on other ATV devices such as the Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4. If I am correct, the CasinoH3 is the one with the problem since you did say the one dated 09/05/2026 is the naughty one while 08/15/2026 named Master Bedroom is the nice one. Usually I would expect the CasinoH3 to be the one without the problem because it's Hopper 3 only and Master Bedroom would be the one with problems because it has the Hopper Plus involved. That is why they behave differently because CasinoH3 is running the native Hopper 3 software while Master Bedroom is running the Android TV software and also it runs a app called DISH known as package com.dish.atv.launcher, the version for mines is P15403 2026100917 so it's probably the same version as the Hopper Plus software version with the date of October 9, 2026, not sure what the 17 means except maybe revision 17?
This explains it better than I can. Sorry, had to take all the ads out.
Master Bedroom uses Android TV (ATV) software so the DISH part is actually a app and will behave differently as you can probably tell the Guide's are different on the Master Bedroom which will resemble the same guide used on other ATV devices such as the Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4. If I am correct, the CasinoH3 is the one with the problem since you did say the one dated 09/05/2026 is the naughty one while 08/15/2026 named Master Bedroom is the nice one. Usually I would expect the CasinoH3 to be the one without the problem because it's Hopper 3 only and Master Bedroom would be the one with problems because it has the Hopper Plus involved. That is why they behave differently because CasinoH3 is running the native Hopper 3 software while Master Bedroom is running the Android TV software and also it runs a app called DISH known as package com.dish.atv.launcher, the version for mines is P15403 2026100917 so it's probably the same version as the Hopper Plus software version with the date of October 9, 2026, not sure what the 17 means except maybe revision 17?
This explains it better than I can. Sorry, had to take all the ads out.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Nah, you just don't understand how ignore works, which is why you made your own NFL thread thinking there wasn't one
Was thinking same thing. It should be a good week for sec shorts and roll callThey ought to have fun with this…
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A continuation of a thread from the pub, just general discussion of AI.
Brief 60 minute clip about next gem autonomous fighters - not remote controlled, but rather collaborating with controllers and aircraft in the theater.
View: https://youtu.be/DRm0mbp_n1k
We've literally got a movie already about this
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Brief 60 minute clip about next gem autonomous fighters - not remote controlled, but rather collaborating with controllers and aircraft in the theater.
View: https://youtu.be/DRm0mbp_n1k
We've literally got a movie already about this
View: https://youtu.be/a2PW7a9ViDc
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An AI agent reportedly deleted the entire final cut of the upcoming season of a Swedish reality competition show.
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I was watching some of this guy's stuff and realized some of you may not be familiar. Basically his show is Candid Camera meets a magician. This is a comp of a few of his exploits. I first learned of him when I was out at a meeting in Denver about 10yrs ago. The men I was sitting at the table with started talking about this show and said it was one of the funniest things they had seen. When I got home I started watching it....yes, it is funny.
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.
I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Tony as the director.
Would you rather have LaRoche ???Tony as the director.
No. Bring in someone new.
Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...No. Bring in someone new.
Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)
Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.
Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.
It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
