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...or for anyone who can shed some light, I ran across this old thread, http://www.satelliteguys.us/free-air-fta-discussion/179942-wvxf-switching-tv-3.html
The part where tvro mentioned sending his different receivers via coax on different channels throughout the house. Someone did ask for some specifics on how you did this but there was no response.
If your still doing it this way, or if anyone is doing something similar would you please post what equipment you used to do this? Maybe just some details so I can maybe draw it out in my head and come up with a plan for something like this.
thanks...
The part where tvro mentioned sending his different receivers via coax on different channels throughout the house. Someone did ask for some specifics on how you did this but there was no response.
If your still doing it this way, or if anyone is doing something similar would you please post what equipment you used to do this? Maybe just some details so I can maybe draw it out in my head and come up with a plan for something like this.
thanks...
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well, since you put it that way...
Transmitting video wirelessly on a UHF channel didn't work for me, even 15 feet.
At the time, my big concern was getting remote control of the living room satellite box.
He snaked it from his master bedroom to his computer room.
But, as I've moved to more HD content and distribution, I certainly agree.
Today, the traditional ways to move HD would be:
- component
- DVI
- HDMI
I don't want to start a war here, but in my opinion, DVI is dead, Component is for short runs and 720, and only HDMI is interesting as a future solution.
And, I don't think HDMI over long cable runs (even with extenders) makes a lot of sense, if you demand distribution over a very large house.
If you can run a 12' HMDI through a wall to an adjacent room, you have a winner, though. - :up
CAT5 and media extenders are the best way to move HD content all over a large structure.
Some have their shortcomings, but I feel this is the sandbox you'll have to play in, if your big house needs HD.
Several members have mentioned such a setup, and I refer you to them for best advice.
I'm just now setting up a core2duo laptop running Vista Media Center in the living room.
The dual tuner is remoted over the LAN, and not even in the same room.
For playback in the bedroom, I'll access video from a master hard drive , and playback with a bedroom computer or media box.
Adding more rooms would require just one CAT5 to the master video repository (server).
When I started, I did run a coax to my bedroom and watched from the channel 3 modulator in my sat receiver.
Transmitting video wirelessly on a UHF channel didn't work for me, even 15 feet.
At the time, my big concern was getting remote control of the living room satellite box.
I bough a 50' Svideo cable for a buddy (who requested it), but that was for SD.
He snaked it from his master bedroom to his computer room.
But, as I've moved to more HD content and distribution, I certainly agree.
Today, the traditional ways to move HD would be:
- component
- DVI
- HDMI
I don't want to start a war here, but in my opinion, DVI is dead, Component is for short runs and 720, and only HDMI is interesting as a future solution.
And, I don't think HDMI over long cable runs (even with extenders) makes a lot of sense, if you demand distribution over a very large house.
If you can run a 12' HMDI through a wall to an adjacent room, you have a winner, though. - :up
Since you put it that way, yes.
CAT5 and media extenders are the best way to move HD content all over a large structure.
Some have their shortcomings, but I feel this is the sandbox you'll have to play in, if your big house needs HD.
Several members have mentioned such a setup, and I refer you to them for best advice.
I'm just now setting up a core2duo laptop running Vista Media Center in the living room.
The dual tuner is remoted over the LAN, and not even in the same room.
For playback in the bedroom, I'll access video from a master hard drive , and playback with a bedroom computer or media box.
Adding more rooms would require just one CAT5 to the master video repository (server).
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The approaches outlined above are pretty much limited to standard definition television, and NTSC at that. If you're content with this, the technologies required are very mature and there is no reason to read further.
However this is backwards-looking as you're living with 1950s-grade standards. As technology progresses it will become increasingly more difficult to force fit solutions into such a scheme. A logical alternative might be to use a similar infrastructure but substitute ATSC modulators so HD could be distributed. However while there have been plans discussed for the past decade regarding low cost ATSC modulators, nothing has yet happened. There are technical and possibly legal issues with how this might work.
A different reason the ATSC modulator solution may not be happening is the same result can be already be accomplished at very low cost with a completely different paradigm. You already have the coax lines coming into one place of your house where all your receivers are located. That will make things much easier. What you would need to do is set up a media server that can grab the transport stream data from all of your media sources and control their tuning. You then simply run Cat 5 or 6 Ethernet cables to the rooms where each television is located and set up either a PC or a media extender to render the data for the screen. Each viewing location has live and recorded access to all of your media sources, and as long as there is no conflict, people can watch whatever they want simultaneously.
We implemented such a system nearly four years ago using SageTV, but there are other approaches. We don't have to buy multiple receivers for each room or string all the coax that would be required. Cat 5/6 cable is about as cheap as one can get wire and easy to route. You may already have it strung for your house computers. The media extenders are around $150 each and will run just about any resolution/frame rate imaginable, along with most audio formats. I've worked with Sage to ensure they support 4:2:2 HD on their latest extenders. The only thing missing is Dolby E
This is really a dream system as everyone can set up recordings from anywhere for any receiver, and watch them or live programs wherever and whenever they please. The on-screen menu system is very logical and easy to run from a remote control. At the moment our receiver pool has 2 x OTA, 2 x FTA, 2 x Dish Network and 2 x Shaw Direct units under Sage control. I've tested it with up to 14 tuners, including 4DTV, meaning very complex input configurations are feasible. We currently have six media extenders for feeding the screens, but more could be added. A setup this size does take effort, but if you can set up FTA systems, the complexity is no more difficult.
However this is backwards-looking as you're living with 1950s-grade standards. As technology progresses it will become increasingly more difficult to force fit solutions into such a scheme. A logical alternative might be to use a similar infrastructure but substitute ATSC modulators so HD could be distributed. However while there have been plans discussed for the past decade regarding low cost ATSC modulators, nothing has yet happened. There are technical and possibly legal issues with how this might work.
A different reason the ATSC modulator solution may not be happening is the same result can be already be accomplished at very low cost with a completely different paradigm. You already have the coax lines coming into one place of your house where all your receivers are located. That will make things much easier. What you would need to do is set up a media server that can grab the transport stream data from all of your media sources and control their tuning. You then simply run Cat 5 or 6 Ethernet cables to the rooms where each television is located and set up either a PC or a media extender to render the data for the screen. Each viewing location has live and recorded access to all of your media sources, and as long as there is no conflict, people can watch whatever they want simultaneously.
We implemented such a system nearly four years ago using SageTV, but there are other approaches. We don't have to buy multiple receivers for each room or string all the coax that would be required. Cat 5/6 cable is about as cheap as one can get wire and easy to route. You may already have it strung for your house computers. The media extenders are around $150 each and will run just about any resolution/frame rate imaginable, along with most audio formats. I've worked with Sage to ensure they support 4:2:2 HD on their latest extenders. The only thing missing is Dolby E
This is really a dream system as everyone can set up recordings from anywhere for any receiver, and watch them or live programs wherever and whenever they please. The on-screen menu system is very logical and easy to run from a remote control. At the moment our receiver pool has 2 x OTA, 2 x FTA, 2 x Dish Network and 2 x Shaw Direct units under Sage control. I've tested it with up to 14 tuners, including 4DTV, meaning very complex input configurations are feasible. We currently have six media extenders for feeding the screens, but more could be added. A setup this size does take effort, but if you can set up FTA systems, the complexity is no more difficult.
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Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
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Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
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So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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For quite a while now, people with a VIP211k have been losing their recordings on their activated external HDDs... even when there's nothing physically wrong with HDD. I believe this is an intentional and underhanded tactic that Dish is pulling in an attempt to force users away from the VIP211k.
They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.
Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.
On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.
It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.
I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
They are obviously regretting that they ever let users have a "non-dvr" dvr in the first place. You would think they would be happy charging you a $40 one time fee... and then be happy letting the customer be the one responsible for HDD failures.
Dish clearly hates the 211k bitter-clingers. This recording deletion problem is intentional (IMO), and I think it is just one more tool that they are using. Hopper and a 2-year agreement... that's what they want you to have. Think about that... a 2-year agreement... with a company $30 Billion in debt (that's with a B). What happens when all that debt causes them to drop the channel that may have been your whole reason for having Dish in the first place? Guess who's stuck with a service that no longer suits their needs... for the remainder of the 2-year agreement.
On top of that, they don't want you to install it yourself. I purchased and installed all my equipment myself. That used to be common. Now, they lie to me and tell me that my dish must be updated to use a Hopper. Funny thing is... they don't even know what dish I have because they didn't install it, and I didn't tell them. If you ask what type of dish/LNBs the hopper needs... good luck getting an answer. All they know is that whatever you have needs to be upgraded by an installer.
It is quite apparent to me that they care much more about staying in their box, than they do working with the customer. That's too bad, because it hasn't always been that way. It's like they are totally unaware of the current business environment that they are trying to compete in.
I have been a customer since 2010. I will be cancelling my service before the next period. Yeah, I know, my $1,200 a year won't make a difference to them. It just seems like they have forgotten who needs who, especially when you consider the competition in today's streaming world. But hey, they will have succeed in forcing me off the 211k.
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Has anyone subscribed to NBA League Pass for 2026-27 and try to link their account to NBA.com to stream League Pass? I purchased it for 2026-27, and when I linked, I got a message saying success, but then I receive an error that my linked subscription does not include the preseason games for NBA League Pass. Is that how it has always been? I know satellite doesn't have the preseason games on the NBA League Pass channels, but I thought that I was able to stream the preseason once I linked my account on NBA.com?
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Nah, you just don't understand how ignore works, which is why you made your own NFL thread thinking there wasn't one
For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.
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Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat. 
WTF… …What the Foxbat!Remember folks... just like DNS... its always Foxbat.
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wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming youWTF… …What the Foxbat!
I know. Here's what Scott has in store for me if I get out of line:wow what a kick in the balls!!! the wife blames you when things don't work now scott's blaming you
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OMG to freaking funny
You're no fun.
I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Apple has finally released their Apple TV 4K with built-in Siri and a microphone so it can respond to your queries even if you don't have the remote. It also increases in price, to $299. I had been planning on updating my current Apple TV 4K streamers, but that's $600 for the two of them, and that's a pass at this point.
At $299, it had better come with 256 GB of Storage, Gigabit (or better) Ethernet, the latest HDMI tech and standards, and one year of free Apple One. But it probably won't…
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. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
they all do that anyways.. ever notice your cell phone slows down when you come up for an upgrade..
. apple's been making money off of software and not hardware for a while
You should have looked in the APP STORE instead.