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Last reply Oct 21, 2010 · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

HR24+DECA+wired network

I'm getting new HR24s with my install. My understanding is that DECA is built in to the HR24 so I shouldn't see a separate DECA module at the receiver.

My house is wired for ethernet (I did it) and has an RJ45 at each receiver location. Will I no longer need that for the receiver? Does the HR24 "do DECA" through the coax? I'm assuming that's the case but I don't know as I have no experience with DECA. This will be a new ride for me.

I have 2 RG6-QS coming from my current E* dish location. One goes to each TV. The dish is mounted at the eaves of my attached garage. I can see by my neighbor's D* dish location/orientation that this location will work fine for the D* dish as well.

I am guessing the installer will install SWM and/or whatever they need right there where the cable enters the garage. I have power right there as well. Should I run an ethernet cable out to that location? Should I pull another RG6 and take it to where my router is? I have a DSL router connected to a 24-port gigabit switch and patch cables from the gigabit switch to my patch panel.

I've seen diagrams showing just 1 separate DECA module connected to the router when using HR24s.

I'm not overly concerned or anything. I usually try to help installers as much as I can 'cause most people probably treat 'em like crap. And if I have the cable sitting here on spools, it's no big deal for me to pull some cable before they get there (and I get to choose how it's routed and where the holes get drilled.

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Thoughts? Help 'em out or let them handle it?

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CashGap

Oct 8, 2010

Jumping on to this thread...

My scenario - Installed 9/25 by an installer who was, to be generous, still in the steep part of the learning curve.

Two HD-DVRs (oddly, one shows as an HR24-100 and one as an HR24-200, is there a difference?). RG6 from each to the SWM and ground. RG6 to the dish.

Installer tested MRV, it worked. Plugged my RJ45 ethernet into one HR24, hit the internet, and pronounced it good to go.

Of course, this disabled MRV but I didn't figure that out for a while.

Would I be better off to:

PLAN A - Get a DECA and PS. RJ45 over to the SWM. Install DECA and PS, attach RJ45, good to go with the HR24's communicating solely over RG6.

PRO - I think this is the supported setup.
CON - I'd need a DECA and PS. $50 - $60 and I won't have it tomorrow when I have time for this project.

PLAN B - One router port to HR24 "A" via RJ45. A second to HR24 "B" via RJ45. No changes to RG6 wiring.

PRO - As a network guy, it "seems" this is more technically correct, with my HR24's ethernet traffic going over a mainstream ethernet transport. And I have tons of cable.
CON - Not supported, and ???

THANKS!

Also, new to forum, happy to give back by answering any questions on equipment leasing, vehicle leasing, or Mac OS X.

wildbill129

Oct 8, 2010

CashGap said:
My scenario - Installed 9/25 by an installer who was, to be generous, still in the steep part of the learning curve.

Two HD-DVRs (oddly, one shows as an HR24-100 and one as an HR24-200, is there a difference?). RG6 from each to the SWM and ground. RG6 to the dish.

Installer tested MRV, it worked. Plugged my RJ45 ethernet into one HR24, hit the internet, and pronounced it good to go.

Of course, this disabled MRV but I didn't figure that out for a while.

Would I be better off to:

PLAN A - Get a DECA and PS. RJ45 over to the SWM. Install DECA and PS, attach RJ45, good to go with the HR24's communicating solely over RG6.

PRO - I think this is the supported setup.
CON - I'd need a DECA and PS. $50 - $60 and I won't have it tomorrow when I have time for this project.

PLAN B - One router port to HR24 "A" via RJ45. A second to HR24 "B" via RJ45. No changes to RG6 wiring.

PRO - As a network guy, it "seems" this is more technically correct, with my HR24's ethernet traffic going over a mainstream ethernet transport. And I have tons of cable.
CON - Not supported, and ???

THANKS!

Also, new to forum, happy to give back by answering any questions on equipment leasing, vehicle leasing, or Mac OS X.

Call DirecTV back and tell them they didn't install it correctly. They should supply the DECA module and power supply. They should run RG6 to your router location from the splitter, install the DECA module and power supply and connect to your router with a short ethernet cable.

You could do the other unsupported version, but in my own case I found an improvement in MRV speed and reliability when I got it off my wired network and put it on it's own stand alone DECA cloud..

CashGap

Oct 8, 2010

wildbill129 said:
Call DirecTV back and tell them they didn't install it correctly. They should supply the DECA module and power supply. They should run RG6 to your router location from the splitter, install the DECA module and power supply and connect to your router with a short ethernet cable.

You could do the other unsupported version, but in my own case I found an improvement in MRV speed and reliability when I got it off my wired network and put it on it's own stand alone DECA cloud..

Helpful, thank you.

Followup question. I don't see a benefit of a short ethernet cable compared to a 299m ethernet cable, and I already have a cat6e 25m cable to one DVR location. Can the DECA install there in-line to the DVR and insert ethernet at that point?

I realize they would run the RG6, but I'd prefer to not have the house endure another run if possible.

THANKS

wildbill129

Oct 8, 2010

CashGap said:
Helpful, thank you.

Followup question. I don't see a benefit of a short ethernet cable compared to a 299m ethernet cable, and I already have a cat6e 25m cable to one DVR location. Can the DECA install there in-line to the DVR and insert ethernet at that point?

I realize they would run the RG6, but I'd prefer to not have the house endure another run if possible.

THANKS

Yep, should be able to. Although they tried that at my house and had some issues. They were connecting to a switch at my patch panel. I don't know what the issue was, they moved it to my office where my router was before I had a chance to discuss it with them. I was only the second MRV/DECA install these installers had done....they were still learning. It should work fine in your case.

CashGap

Oct 14, 2010

Solved.

DirecTV CSR would not send a DECA or a tech without a $50 service charge and $50 I'm-not-sure-what-she-meant charge.

Ordered a DECA and PS from Solid Signal. Realized too late that I needed a splitter (thought the DECA went in-line with receiver), fortunately had a brand-new 5-2500mhz splitter left over from cable tv days.

So LNB goes to original SWM splitter with ground.

Power leg of SWM goes to power inserter and first HD24.

Other leg of SWM goes to new splitter, those legs go to DECA and second HR24.

DECA powered by power supply, ethernet to router.

DONE. One HR24 required reboot, one did not, MRV, VOD, Apps, iPhone scheduling etc. all working!!!

Thanks for the help. I really preferred buying the DECA rather than arguing the charges away and still needing to be home for the installer.

AekaGSR

Oct 21, 2010

I just want to make sure I can put a splitter where I think I can so I can add a deca.

Currently my setup from the wall goes like this:
cable from wall goes in swm power module. another cable from the swm power module goes to my HR24.

Am I correct in assuming I can put a regular ol' splitter after the swm power module to feed the HR24 and my new deca for internet?
(Wall--SWM power module--splitter < hr24 and deca)

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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!

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Last reply Today at 5:53 PM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

DISH Hopper 3 Software Version 713 Is Out

No idea what improvements might be involved.

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bookworm370

Saturday at 3:17 PM

Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.

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naptime

Yesterday at 1:05 AM

I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.

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reubenray

Yesterday at 6:14 AM

bookworm370 said:
Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.

My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.

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dishstaller

Yesterday at 1:01 PM

reubenray said:
My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning.

Had a customer call recently saying their remote was really acting up, some buttons no longer functioned. Told them to reboot the Hopper....problem fixed.
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"

https://www.amazon.com/Have-Tried-Turning-Again-T-Shirt/dp/B07G1ZV9W9/ref=sr_1_11?crid=3NNRAEED195WV&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.86TxUTPcw48CRYlDcLntwpMxbPDBfjiLu4wMZGX3VN6ajG_cFCuoDBJT7pS9CW2mjThKlke5Z6dlXH8bJKkQF4s892wGVU1ca_00S0BQz6F15V30_4szIdWeycvw3_zoVtsULQASM8bGcgvsKms930xApC43y_-YBVN0Q8Xsf_csSqXcmhWpresARdXHfx2VazllrXI8asduvrbnk9S3CGnzjqnVTkjzFSpSQLdQKA6Dx_7UfbQIBBJsqAmQwwtDGqM0YKVIkjV4ARgVJvJ69vLPhxV0m8pkJQd_2w_QX_A.-jSy9OqrqWdxPBsgZGia1hHMbvDAKxxhRn9kK1EBdCc&dib_tag=se&keywords=have%2Byou%2Btried%2Bturning%2Bit%2Boff%2Band%2Bon%2Bagain&nsdOptOutParam=true&qid=1792342839&sprefix=have%2Byou%2Btried%2B%2Caps%2C265&sr=8-11&customId=B0752XJYNL&customizationToken=MC_Assembly_1%23B0752XJYNL&th=1&psc=1

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dishstaller said:
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"

Here's the one I need:

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Yesterday at 10:15 PM

Foxbat said:
Here's the one I need:

View attachment 194877

Just ordered one....that's great.

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jsmit86

Today at 9:57 AM

naptime said:
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.

It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.

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long_time_Dish

Today at 3:57 PM

jsmit86 said:
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.

Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin

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Almighty1

Today at 4:07 PM

jsmit86 said:
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.

I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.

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Almighty1 said:
it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner

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Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!

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HipKat

Today at 8:55 AM

I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.

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AZ.

Today at 9:02 AM

Well if it is because of reliability that wouldnt shock me.I went through 5 or 6 of them in little over 2 years. I loved the Sling when it worked! Saved lots of money having it in the day. That was probably 15 or 16 years ago?

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telstar_1

Today at 1:22 PM

HipKat said:
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.

I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.

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Nominal

Today at 4:30 PM

telstar_1 said:
I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.

You are thinking of the 921. The 922 was the first DVR with Sling functionality built in (that was eventually disabled along with the Sling Adapter for the 722s and the 1st Hopper because they relied on now-defunct Adobe Flash technology). With the bugginess described by others and the removal of its marquee feature (Sling) the 922 faded into obscurity once the Hopper 2 with built in Sling was released and they finally made the concept into a fully functional product.

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I had one, the front panel lighting was cool, the menus were fresh and a lot more modern looking than the ViPs. However, it was very buggy and the Sling functionality just didn't work well - I think it was due to internet speeds at the time. I think I had to pay $40 for the Sling app on my phone iirc.

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Today at 1:30 PM

I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?

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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?

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Today at 3:54 PM

long_time_Dish said:
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.

Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.

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