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120inna55
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Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
In preparing for the potential loss of my FOX LiL (KDFW 4.1) via DISH (due to contract dispute), I swung my antenna around to the DFW area.

Now, don't laugh...

My coax comes straight into my house from an antenna mounted on a 50' tower. I'm guessing the coax travels another 30' before it actually penetrates the wall. This coax connects to an old amp with only 1 output. From that output another coax goes to a cheap FM amp/splitter purchased at Walmart that has two outputs. From here, one coax goes to a DISH receiver; one goes to a plain splitter dividing between my other DISH receiver and my AV tuner.

This was all done in 1997.

With this setup, I've been able to enjoy excellent FM reception on my AV tuner and pretty decent OTA (now digital, of course) out of East Texas. (I'm in Athens, TX, but my DMA is DFW). So, my DFW networks are provided via DISH. I only go to my East Texas networks during inclement weather for the radar. I've never been able to consistently pull in 51 (KFXK) for Fox--I don't know why, and I don't care. I prefer KDFW for my morning news.

The obvious problem is that I'm splitting the hell outta my signal which hasn't been a problem until I swing the antennas around to DFW (~75 miles away). I get marginal signal strength high 50's to low 60's. I eliminated everything after the indoor amp and took coax straight to one of my DISH receivers and got more stable signals being high 70's to 80's.

Obviously, this solution eliminates my OTA access on my other DISH receiver and my FM reception on my AV tuner. All 3 of these components are within the same cabinet serving 1 TV.

Of course, now I know that with a simple cable redirect, I can receive a stable FOX reception in the event it gets pulled from DISH (an action I believe will be brief---if it happens at all---but I couldn't risk losing Fringe and Bones which are two of my wife's favorite programs.)

But for a long-term solution, should I just replace my amp with one having more outputs. Is there one with 3 outputs that won't attenuate my signal?

I appreciate the help!

EDIT: Reviewing my original receipt from 1997, the UHF/VHF antenna is a CM3649. There is also a single-channel antenna that is listed on my original receipt as a "Channel 7 antenna" (remember this was in 1997) that was intended to pull in KLTV out of Tyler. The single-channel antenna looks exactly like this. The coax's from each of these antennae are joined via a box mounted between the two masts such that there is only one coax trailing down the 50' tower.

The pre-amp with only 1 output is a "PERMACOLOR 10G205C". The splitter/amp following that is a "Recoton 10db signal amplifier".
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Jim5506
Stick a 3 way in and see what it does to your reception, doesn't cost much.

If the three way deteriorates signal too much, you can use a two way and select which outputs to connect at any one time.
120inna55
I spoke too soon. I checked signal strengths this morning after making no changes since last night when I had 90-100. This morning I'm having 60's to 70's with dropouts. Why the huge swings? No wind. Perfect weather. The DFW area is having rain, but my DISH LiL's are unaffected.

It's making me reconsider an amp, however, if I'm receiving 100's at night, would an amp be too much?
boba
Athens is SE of Dallas and that is the direction the front is moving. I wouldn't be surprised to see signals increase as the front passes. TV antenna signals are not free from atmospheric changes and digital signals behave a little differently than analog.

A signal amplifier won't necessarily improve digital signals it will improve the carrier but dosen't have as much effect on the digital content. A 2 way splitter and a 4 way splitter may show up with the same % signal even though the 4 way is only sending half the carrier signal because the 1 & 0 digital information is still there.

A good antenna, correctly aimed with as short a cable as possible will help get the signal to your tuners. In your case the pre amp will help, you probably won't need any additional amplification. After 10 years of exposure you may have corrosion on connection points especially old baluns and coaxial cables.
120inna55
Thank you all for the feedback.

Tonight I'm getting everything maxed out to 99-100 again. Interestingly, I still pull in KLTV (7.1) out of Tyler/Longview even though my antennae are aimed at DFW.

I check again in the morning to see if the signals dip again.
120inna55
...I check again in the morning to see if the signals dip again.

It must've been the weather as suggested by boba. This morning, signals are still high.

I haven't gotten around to adding the three-way splitter. It's not essential because the two-way splitter is feeding the DVR I use most as well as the FM tuner. I may never miss the redundant OTA on the second DVR.
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Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

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Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.