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rogerduncan100
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Thank you AcWxRadar for your excellent explanation of how to get a motorized dish to exactly follow the arc (in Dee Ann's new thread). I think to make this happen you not only have to have the mounting post perfectly plum but you have to have the motor exactly level. Right now my setup is totally out to lunch on 30W because it isn't level enough, I think.

How do you measure a Ku motor to see if it's level?:confused:

I have an SG2100 motor and it's a wonderful collection of curves, not a straight edge on it! Besides, what really matters is that the shaft is aligned right but how can you know and how can you measure? The shaft is not only on an angle to the ground, it's bent!

Checking the mounting post for plum is easy. Just lay a level on it at two locations ninety degrees from each other. Checking a motor for level is another matter. Any ideas?:)
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Some of the older SG-2100s from DMSI had U-bolts that would strip very easily if tightened even a bit too much. The metal was some sort of soft pot metal, and it was common to destroy a U-bolt. They have since improved on the U-bolt quality, but I do remember having to buy a replacement set of U-bolts when I installed my first motor.
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Motor level

See my post of yesterday on this forum regarding U bolts.
B.J.
Some of the older SG-2100s from DMSI had U-bolts that would strip very easily if tightened even a bit too much. The metal was some sort of soft pot metal, and it was common to destroy a U-bolt. They have since improved on the U-bolt quality, but I do remember having to buy a replacement set of U-bolts when I installed my first motor.

Re U-bolts, my NEW DMSI version had U-bolts that were spread out so much that the ends were about 3/4" wider than at the middle. I had to bend them to get them to either go into the bracket or to be able to tighten the nuts on the other end, because it flared out so much that the didn't even touch the open end of the clamp part that the nut is supposed to tighten on. But the worst part was that right out of the box, the nuts couldn't be screwed onto the U-bolts, even 1/8th of a turn. The nuts wouldn't go on good bolts of the same size, and good nuts wouldn't go on the bolts. I couldn't find my tap/die of that size, so I ended up FORCING the nuts over the U-bolts, which was not easy at all, but after doing that 5 or 6 times, it finally loosened up enough that I could turn the nuts by hand. But at first, I couldn't even turn the nuts with a cresent wrench... had to use a deep 6 sided socket, and when I got past the depth it would go, I took off the ratchet, and turned the socket with a vice grip, letting the U-bolt go through the square hole. But basically, the U-bolts, nuts, and the whole mount assembly is a piece of junk.
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I just pulled up an OLD picture of my OLD SG2100. I wasn't sure where I had bought this, because the Sadoun sticker has long ago worn off, but I see now. Attaching 3 pictures below. The 2nd and 3rd show the Sadoun Digipower SG2100 sitting very flat on a pipe clamp I use to support the mount as I adjust azimuth. This OLD 2100 sits perfectly flat on any flat surface, and the various edges are all square. Also the top of the motor itself has a flat surface where the Digipower tag is, that can be used for adjusting elevation. The 1st picture is of my NEW DMSI 2100. It's hard to see in the picture, but the bracket doesn't sit flat on the same pipe clamp, or on any other flat surface. You can see space under the bracket, and it just rocks on a flat surface. It is of cheaper grade metal, and bends easily. Also I couldn't find ANY flat surface on the motor that could be used for elevation, although you can use the bent motor shaft once the motor is on the pole, and before you put the dish on. Also, these two motors have different designs relative to where the bolts attach to the motor, and to how the pointers point to the angle scale. I found the old scale fairly easy to use, once I figured out what part of the pointer to use, but this new 2100 has a pointer that is at least a degree off regardless of how you use it. I had a really hard time setting up this new 2100. I eventually used the back of the pole mount bracket of the 90CM Fortec, where it connects to the bent part of the motor shaft, as a surface parallel to the motor shaft, using the 90-decl-30 method described in another thread. That saved me from having to remove the dish to measure the angle.


Also, I'm not sure that one of the OP'er's comments was ever addressed. Above, it was mentioned:

rogerduncan100 said:
The SG2100's 30 degree bend is itself a compromise. I think the only way to get a motorized dish to follow the arc perfectly is to set it up with the exact right bend for the latitude.
I just wanted to make sure that the OP'er realizes that this bend has nothing to do with the latitude. It is there to allow you to adjust for declination. Declination is a negative angle, but the dishes you attach to the motor shaft only allow you to tilt it at positive angles, so to get say a -5 degree declination, the bend in the shaft gives you a -30 declination, and then you adjust the DISH elevation to +25 to get a net -5. None of this involves latitude. This 30 deg bend also makes the axis of rotation go closer to the center of gravity of the dish, so that there is less torque on the motor. So it doesn't matter WHAT the bend in the motor shaft is, because it's accounted for by the dish elevation setting.
rogerduncan100
B.J. I agree with you after thinking about it for a few months. The amount of bend it the motor shaft doesn't affect how it follows the arc. You just make sure the axis of the motor is parallel to the Earth's axis.

I have given up my quest to change this from parallel to get a more perfect dish setup because the mathematics is difficult (parametric equations of cones).

I just finished manually calculating declination angles to south (79.3 degrees W), 30W and 125W and have found a difference of only 0.3 degrees. If I level my motor perfectly in the spring (when the weather is nice) all I have to do (theoretically) is aim 0.15 degrees high at south it will be only 0.15 degrees low at the extremes. That amount of imprecision is unfortunately necessary but probably doesn't make much practical difference.:)
rogerduncan100
PS: Despite what some say I still think I can use USALs to aim correctly. I will find out in the spring!:D
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Got a magnetic protractor from HD (Home Depot) for $9.00, saved me some headace. If you want a good sturdy motor for FTA Get a Pansat PM900S They have all staneless steel gears, shafts and, bearrings. Problem is that it is about $120.00 From Pansat Direct, check many other places online as well and big side is that it has a 2 year warranty and it is made in Europe in Solovina. It is also setup for USALS.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

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Continuing the Kilauea thread in the Pub here. Perhaps the Iceland one too next time there's remarkable activity.

Currently there is precursory lava flowing into the crater, leading to the next episode that'll probably start within the next day.

You can see the pace of inflation / deflation here. It serves as the primary predictor for when the expect the eruptions, which coincide w/ inflation turning into significant deflation and last for several hours on average with significant fountaining.



View: https://youtu.be/Uecu2seh4b4


Wife and I like the AfarTV feeds, for the discussion along w/ them, though they're otherwise just mirrors of the official USGS feeds.


View: https://youtu.be/iws3rh5vLAQ
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Oooo, quite the show now. All three vents have doming and overflows. The cone that built up around the North vent lost its upper quarter at 02:50 Oct 17 and is now spewing lava at a healthy rate. Don't know if I would say it's a fountain, but it's close.


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edit: The USGS has called the official start of Episode 55 as starting at 03:19 HST Oct 17, 2026:

Alert Level: WATCH, Color Code: ORANGE 2026-10-17 13:43:56 UTC
HVO/USGS Volcanic Activity Notice

Volcano: Kilauea (VNUM #332010)

Current Volcano Alert Level: WATCH
Current Aviation Color Code: ORANGE

Issued: Saturday, October 17, 2026, 3:43 AM HST
Source: Hawaiian Volcano Observatory
Notice Number: 2026/H488
Location: N 19 deg 25 min W 155 deg 17 min
Elevation: 4091 ft (1247 m)
Area: Hawaii

Summary: Episode 55 of the ongoing Halemaʻumaʻu eruption began at 3:19 AM HST on October 17, 2026.

Volcanic Activity:
Episode 55 of lava fountaining in Halemaʻumaʻu began at the summit of Kīlauea began at 3:19 AM HST on October 17, 2026.

Fountain heights are relatively low at about 100-150 feet (30-45 m), and it is not clear whether this episode will evolve to the same heights as previous episodes. Continuous overflows from the vents began yesterday, October 16, just before 6 a.m. HST and transitioned into episode 55 fountains at 3:19 a.m. HST this morning. The current forecast is for winds are blowing from the north-northeast direction, which suggests that volcanic gas emissions and volcanic material may be distributed to the south-southwest direction from Halemaʻumaʻu.
  • All eruptive vents and lava flows are confined to Halemaʻumaʻu crater within Hawaiʻi Volcanoes National Park. Tephra fall from volcanic ash clouds is greatest within 3 miles (5 km) of the vents, lighter ash and Pele's Hair may stay suspended for large distances from the vents.
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Kīlauea seems to be returning to the "normal" eruption script, impressive fountaining from the North Vent. For once, the V2 Cam has the best overall shot:
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The lava flows have covered a good portion of the Halemaʻumaʻu crater floor.
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Since the Reds have there thread we should too!

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Since it was already "paid" for, I spent the two hours of my time watching the John Cena action movie on Apple TV, "Matchbox The Movie" even though the reviews were brutal. It was better than I expected, so I didn't feel like I had wasted an afternoon watching it. But it felt like another "Reacher"/"Neghley"/"Mission: Impossible"/"Fast & Furious" crash and blow stuff up with lots of automatic gunfire mixed in movie featuring covert CIA operatives.

I don't think we'll get a follow-up movie from this. I expect Mattel will have other toy lines to exploit.
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Who says dinner or lunch has to be the only good meals of the day?

Honey butter grits with scrambled eggs and grilled boneless pork ribs on flakey biscuits washed down with cranberry juice.
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Egg, sausage and cheese sandwich between bread toasted in butter in skillet... Chocolate milk.
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Wound up at the Waffle House this morning. Got the two egg breakfast with coffee.

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Speaking of waffles, I'm going to put my mini waffle iron on stove so I'll remember to make waffles in the morning... Had some last week, been awhile.
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Anyone making their own breakfast sausage? I've recently been trying different recipes, found some I like, some I've modified...
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Bob Evans Sage.
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Bob Evans Sage.
I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.
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Swaggerty's isn't too bad, sausage prices are lower per lb than making my own from pork butts right now so I've been buying JC Potter or Owen lately.
(Swaggerty's at Sam's is pre cut, I usually partially freeze the rolls and cut with my slicer and vacuum seal on parchment paper)
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I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.
amazon maybe :what
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I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.
owens on amazon is 54.99 for a 4 pk 16 oz a sausage. i feel that's kind of steep!!!
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Swaggerty's isn't too bad, sausage prices are lower per lb than making my own from pork butts right now so I've been buying JC Potter or Owen lately.
(Swaggerty's at Sam's is pre cut, I usually partially freeze the rolls and cut with my slicer and vacuum seal on parchment paper)
id'e rather make my own vs store bought.
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owens on amazon is 54.99 for a 4 pk 16 oz a sausage. i feel that's kind of steep!!!
Especially when I can get a two pound roll of Jimmy Dean from Sam's Club for $7.38.
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They run Owens at $3.99 for lb and $7.99 a couple times a month at some grocery stores here, I actually was wrong, just checked a pork sirloin roast it was $1.99 a lb. (cooked it yesterday so pack was in trash)
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
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Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
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No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
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I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.
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I wonder it they will show the teased meeting (in Origins) with Tony and Gibbs.
I'm curious how they are going to implement Tony into Origins (If they do) ...
Tony was introduced to Gibbs and the team, on NCIS, which makes it the Mothership side of things, he worked in Baltimore prior to NCIS, NO mention when they met that anyone had known one another ...