Good thing there's still hundreds of excellent SD signals on DVB, because it doesn't look like there's going to be very many of them via 4dtv anymore. I'm somewhat old school. I still use a Faroudja LD100, lol, with my front projector. For the most part, the pic via master feeds, both 4dtv and dvb, are killer. I rarely watch anything HD even tho I have a 1030 card in my pc. If I had a stb that did both S1 and S2 HD, perhaps I would then change my viewing habits. But as of now, excellent SD still looks pretty killer to me for the most part. What I hate most about MOT no longer sending the 4dtv data stream is all of those masters I won't have access to anymore. At one point in time I was spending about a hundred bucks a month for programming via the 4dtv. After Obama took office, all of that changed.