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Gents,
I've sort of got the Shaw Direct setup at the Cabin working. (I'd post a bunch of photos but can't seem to get that working here...
Here's a link instead on the install so far...)
Tough installation - Location - Help PLease - Digital Forum
It's a 350 foot cable run from the dish to the cabin on RG6 Quad Shield (outdoor buried in plastic pipe) from a 60e Dish. Signal strength on Channel 299 is ~76% and on Channel 284 ~94% with about 35 feet of Cable when tweaking right at the dish. I ran out of Cable after only 2 of the 4 runs (and had to leave) so the Phillips Multiswitch is not connected. I also didn't have time to check the signal strength at the Cabin end of the cable, but I did plug it into the Cabin cables and it worked great on 299 and 284 (and others) before I disconnected it and left. (My initial tests with a long 330 foot test cable prior to install showed only about a 2% drop in signal strength versus the 35 foot cable setup.)
My helpful neighbor wants to share the Dish with me (not the same account - he'll buy his own if the system will work to his place further away from the dish) and as I'm not using the Cabin for a long while, I gave him my DSR-505 and a Phillips SDW5005GN In Line Satellite amplifier in case he needed it to run from the cabin to his house another ~260 feet away.
So my question is, should he be able to get enough signal without the Phillips SDW5005GN in line to run the DSR-505 from a dish ~610 feet away? (Is there a formula for this?) Or should he be able to get enough signal with the Phillips SDW5005GN in line to run the DSR-505? Or is the Phillips SDW5005GN not the right device for this application?
Eventually (next spring?) I'm hoping to complete the install and use the 4 input cables into the Philips SDW5058 Satellite Multiswitch and provide him with a couple of feeds off the 8 outputs as well as my brother in law next door. I was hopeful the 1.5 dB gain from the Multiswitch would provide enough boost for the ~260 to his house without any other amplification.
Should this work or am I just tilting at windmills?
Thanks for the assist.
I've sort of got the Shaw Direct setup at the Cabin working. (I'd post a bunch of photos but can't seem to get that working here...
Here's a link instead on the install so far...)Tough installation - Location - Help PLease - Digital Forum
It's a 350 foot cable run from the dish to the cabin on RG6 Quad Shield (outdoor buried in plastic pipe) from a 60e Dish. Signal strength on Channel 299 is ~76% and on Channel 284 ~94% with about 35 feet of Cable when tweaking right at the dish. I ran out of Cable after only 2 of the 4 runs (and had to leave) so the Phillips Multiswitch is not connected. I also didn't have time to check the signal strength at the Cabin end of the cable, but I did plug it into the Cabin cables and it worked great on 299 and 284 (and others) before I disconnected it and left. (My initial tests with a long 330 foot test cable prior to install showed only about a 2% drop in signal strength versus the 35 foot cable setup.)
My helpful neighbor wants to share the Dish with me (not the same account - he'll buy his own if the system will work to his place further away from the dish) and as I'm not using the Cabin for a long while, I gave him my DSR-505 and a Phillips SDW5005GN In Line Satellite amplifier in case he needed it to run from the cabin to his house another ~260 feet away.
So my question is, should he be able to get enough signal without the Phillips SDW5005GN in line to run the DSR-505 from a dish ~610 feet away? (Is there a formula for this?) Or should he be able to get enough signal with the Phillips SDW5005GN in line to run the DSR-505? Or is the Phillips SDW5005GN not the right device for this application?
Eventually (next spring?) I'm hoping to complete the install and use the 4 input cables into the Philips SDW5058 Satellite Multiswitch and provide him with a couple of feeds off the 8 outputs as well as my brother in law next door. I was hopeful the 1.5 dB gain from the Multiswitch would provide enough boost for the ~260 to his house without any other amplification.
Should this work or am I just tilting at windmills?
Thanks for the assist.
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Gents,
I was surprised no one chimed in but then running the Sat Receiver 600 feet away from the Dish is an unusual situation.
I've now got decent enough signal it seems at the Cabin with the RG6 Quad Shield Cable we used
Here's the data:
At the Dish prior to cable run install off short 30 foot cable:
On F1R Channel 299 - ShawDirect Reg - the strength is 72
On F2 Channel 284 - NBC HD - the strength is 94
At the Rear of the Cabin at end of 350 foot cable install:
On F1R Channel 299 - ShawDirect Reg - the strength is 71
On F2 Channel 284 - NBC HD - the strength is 92
After adding 248 feet of RG6 Indoor Dual Shield to the above to temporarily carry the signal over to the neighbor's house:
On F1R Channel 299 - ShawDirect Reg - the strength is 61
On F2 Channel 284 - NBC HD - the strength is 39
After adding a Phillips SDW5005GN In Line Amplifier in between the Cables to the above to carry over to the neighbor's house:
On F1R Channel 299 - ShawDirect Reg - the strength is 70
On F2 Channel 284 - NBC HD - the strength is 39
It dies off if we connect (via a barrel coupler) another 250 feet of the RG6 indoor dual I used for testing earlier to go over to the neighbor's place. (We are going to replace the Test Cable soon with outdoor RG6 Quad Shield Cable)
We installed the Multiswitch and the testing today went well, although not perfectly.
It's raining cats and dogs at the Lake with pools of water all over the road. (Not great weather to be mucking about with Sat Dishes and Cable trenches
) But the neighbor persevered, and connected the cables as described above from the multiswitch. The results are:
After connecting to the neighbor's house inside cabling to his TV:
On F1R Channel 299 - ShawDirect Reg - the strength is 53
On F2 Channel 284 - NBC HD - the strength is 79
Other channels on those "2 legs" into the Multiswitch (13V and 13V with 22 KHZ ) are good with similar numbers. I think we are losing a bit of signal to "rain fade", and also to an uncrimped connector at the end of the temporary (indoor RG6) cable. However the neighbor says the Picture is good (but not as good as from the local Shaw Cable company which is strange...) and the sound is solid. He is also only inputting to his LCD TV via a Coax cable. My target was to have the Signal at 70 minimum for both Birds at his house so no issues with snow /rain fade would occur.
I wonder if we'd see any benefit installing the Phillips SDW5005GN In Line Amplifier after the Multiswitch? I think it's worth a try. What do you think? Any other ideas?
Thanks for the assist.:up
I was surprised no one chimed in but then running the Sat Receiver 600 feet away from the Dish is an unusual situation.
I've now got decent enough signal it seems at the Cabin with the RG6 Quad Shield Cable we used
Here's the data:
At the Dish prior to cable run install off short 30 foot cable:
On F1R Channel 299 - ShawDirect Reg - the strength is 72
On F2 Channel 284 - NBC HD - the strength is 94
At the Rear of the Cabin at end of 350 foot cable install:
On F1R Channel 299 - ShawDirect Reg - the strength is 71
On F2 Channel 284 - NBC HD - the strength is 92
After adding 248 feet of RG6 Indoor Dual Shield to the above to temporarily carry the signal over to the neighbor's house:
On F1R Channel 299 - ShawDirect Reg - the strength is 61
On F2 Channel 284 - NBC HD - the strength is 39
After adding a Phillips SDW5005GN In Line Amplifier in between the Cables to the above to carry over to the neighbor's house:
On F1R Channel 299 - ShawDirect Reg - the strength is 70
On F2 Channel 284 - NBC HD - the strength is 39
It dies off if we connect (via a barrel coupler) another 250 feet of the RG6 indoor dual I used for testing earlier to go over to the neighbor's place. (We are going to replace the Test Cable soon with outdoor RG6 Quad Shield Cable)
We installed the Multiswitch and the testing today went well, although not perfectly.
It's raining cats and dogs at the Lake with pools of water all over the road. (Not great weather to be mucking about with Sat Dishes and Cable trenches
After connecting to the neighbor's house inside cabling to his TV:
On F1R Channel 299 - ShawDirect Reg - the strength is 53
On F2 Channel 284 - NBC HD - the strength is 79
Other channels on those "2 legs" into the Multiswitch (13V and 13V with 22 KHZ ) are good with similar numbers. I think we are losing a bit of signal to "rain fade", and also to an uncrimped connector at the end of the temporary (indoor RG6) cable. However the neighbor says the Picture is good (but not as good as from the local Shaw Cable company which is strange...) and the sound is solid. He is also only inputting to his LCD TV via a Coax cable. My target was to have the Signal at 70 minimum for both Birds at his house so no issues with snow /rain fade would occur.
I wonder if we'd see any benefit installing the Phillips SDW5005GN In Line Amplifier after the Multiswitch? I think it's worth a try. What do you think? Any other ideas?
Thanks for the assist.:up
The Plan...
The neighbor got a couple loose connections solid when he tried the Phillips SDW5005GN In Line Amplifier, but it gave no joy regardless if it was after the multiswitch, or before cable entry into his house. He didn't have the numbers handy, but thought they were about 58 on Channel 299, with 284 still solid at about 90.
It turned out a really loose connection was right at the multiswitch. He is using twist on F connectors now. Based on my investigation I've decided PPC EX6WS (or EX6XLWS) would be best for the exterior connections. So I am planing to change all of them in the spring as it's getting quite nasty out there => -10 C and getting colder by the day...
But at least the signal at the neighbor is strong enough he gets a good picture. (I just worry about Rain Fade, Snow Storms, etc...)
So a move towards a 75e Dish seems warranted as the most cost effective next move. I've read posts where both Dishes were "professionally algined" side by side, and the 75e consistently gave a 10 point increase in signal strength. So if the signal on Channel 299 goes to 80 before the multiswitch, hopefully it won't degrade as much going the last 250 feet (and still remain above 70).
We are definitely going for the 75e Dish, and will haggle for it with SD when negotiating the neighbor's account and recievers. The next step after that, if there still are issues, would be a move to RG11 Cables...OMG!
At least that's the plan...
The neighbor got a couple loose connections solid when he tried the Phillips SDW5005GN In Line Amplifier, but it gave no joy regardless if it was after the multiswitch, or before cable entry into his house. He didn't have the numbers handy, but thought they were about 58 on Channel 299, with 284 still solid at about 90.
It turned out a really loose connection was right at the multiswitch. He is using twist on F connectors now. Based on my investigation I've decided PPC EX6WS (or EX6XLWS) would be best for the exterior connections. So I am planing to change all of them in the spring as it's getting quite nasty out there => -10 C and getting colder by the day...
But at least the signal at the neighbor is strong enough he gets a good picture. (I just worry about Rain Fade, Snow Storms, etc...)
So a move towards a 75e Dish seems warranted as the most cost effective next move. I've read posts where both Dishes were "professionally algined" side by side, and the 75e consistently gave a 10 point increase in signal strength. So if the signal on Channel 299 goes to 80 before the multiswitch, hopefully it won't degrade as much going the last 250 feet (and still remain above 70).
We are definitely going for the 75e Dish, and will haggle for it with SD when negotiating the neighbor's account and recievers. The next step after that, if there still are issues, would be a move to RG11 Cables...OMG!
At least that's the plan...
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The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
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Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
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Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
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So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Continuing the Kilauea thread in the Pub here. Perhaps the Iceland one too next time there's remarkable activity.
Currently there is precursory lava flowing into the crater, leading to the next episode that'll probably start within the next day.
You can see the pace of inflation / deflation here. It serves as the primary predictor for when the expect the eruptions, which coincide w/ inflation turning into significant deflation and last for several hours on average with significant fountaining.
www.usgs.gov
View: https://youtu.be/Uecu2seh4b4
Wife and I like the AfarTV feeds, for the discussion along w/ them, though they're otherwise just mirrors of the official USGS feeds.
View: https://youtu.be/iws3rh5vLAQ
Currently there is precursory lava flowing into the crater, leading to the next episode that'll probably start within the next day.
You can see the pace of inflation / deflation here. It serves as the primary predictor for when the expect the eruptions, which coincide w/ inflation turning into significant deflation and last for several hours on average with significant fountaining.
Monitoring Data for Kīlauea
For more information on how electronic tiltmeters and GPS receivers help monitor the deformation of Kīlauea volcano, see the HVO Deformation page.
View: https://youtu.be/Uecu2seh4b4
Wife and I like the AfarTV feeds, for the discussion along w/ them, though they're otherwise just mirrors of the official USGS feeds.
View: https://youtu.be/iws3rh5vLAQ
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Oooo, quite the show now. All three vents have doming and overflows. The cone that built up around the North vent lost its upper quarter at 02:50 Oct 17 and is now spewing lava at a healthy rate. Don't know if I would say it's a fountain, but it's close.
edit: The USGS has called the official start of Episode 55 as starting at 03:19 HST Oct 17, 2026:
Alert Level: WATCH, Color Code: ORANGE 2026-10-17 13:43:56 UTC
HVO/USGS Volcanic Activity Notice
Volcano: Kilauea (VNUM #332010)
Current Volcano Alert Level: WATCH
Current Aviation Color Code: ORANGE
Issued: Saturday, October 17, 2026, 3:43 AM HST
Source: Hawaiian Volcano Observatory
Notice Number: 2026/H488
Location: N 19 deg 25 min W 155 deg 17 min
Elevation: 4091 ft (1247 m)
Area: Hawaii
Summary: Episode 55 of the ongoing Halemaʻumaʻu eruption began at 3:19 AM HST on October 17, 2026.
Volcanic Activity:
Episode 55 of lava fountaining in Halemaʻumaʻu began at the summit of Kīlauea began at 3:19 AM HST on October 17, 2026.
Fountain heights are relatively low at about 100-150 feet (30-45 m), and it is not clear whether this episode will evolve to the same heights as previous episodes. Continuous overflows from the vents began yesterday, October 16, just before 6 a.m. HST and transitioned into episode 55 fountains at 3:19 a.m. HST this morning. The current forecast is for winds are blowing from the north-northeast direction, which suggests that volcanic gas emissions and volcanic material may be distributed to the south-southwest direction from Halemaʻumaʻu.
edit: The USGS has called the official start of Episode 55 as starting at 03:19 HST Oct 17, 2026:
Alert Level: WATCH, Color Code: ORANGE 2026-10-17 13:43:56 UTC
HVO/USGS Volcanic Activity Notice
Volcano: Kilauea (VNUM #332010)
Current Volcano Alert Level: WATCH
Current Aviation Color Code: ORANGE
Issued: Saturday, October 17, 2026, 3:43 AM HST
Source: Hawaiian Volcano Observatory
Notice Number: 2026/H488
Location: N 19 deg 25 min W 155 deg 17 min
Elevation: 4091 ft (1247 m)
Area: Hawaii
Summary: Episode 55 of the ongoing Halemaʻumaʻu eruption began at 3:19 AM HST on October 17, 2026.
Volcanic Activity:
Episode 55 of lava fountaining in Halemaʻumaʻu began at the summit of Kīlauea began at 3:19 AM HST on October 17, 2026.
Fountain heights are relatively low at about 100-150 feet (30-45 m), and it is not clear whether this episode will evolve to the same heights as previous episodes. Continuous overflows from the vents began yesterday, October 16, just before 6 a.m. HST and transitioned into episode 55 fountains at 3:19 a.m. HST this morning. The current forecast is for winds are blowing from the north-northeast direction, which suggests that volcanic gas emissions and volcanic material may be distributed to the south-southwest direction from Halemaʻumaʻu.
- All eruptive vents and lava flows are confined to Halemaʻumaʻu crater within Hawaiʻi Volcanoes National Park. Tephra fall from volcanic ash clouds is greatest within 3 miles (5 km) of the vents, lighter ash and Pele's Hair may stay suspended for large distances from the vents.
Kīlauea seems to be returning to the "normal" eruption script, impressive fountaining from the North Vent. For once, the V2 Cam has the best overall shot:
The lava flows have covered a good portion of the Halemaʻumaʻu crater floor.
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Last watched Nine inch Nails
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Simple, charming. Entire premise is quite silly but Cary Grant carries it across the line in good fashion.
Simple, charming. Entire premise is quite silly but Cary Grant carries it across the line in good fashion.
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Who says dinner or lunch has to be the only good meals of the day?
Honey butter grits with scrambled eggs and grilled boneless pork ribs on flakey biscuits washed down with cranberry juice.
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.
I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Tony as the director.
Would you rather have LaRoche ???Tony as the director.
No. Bring in someone new.
Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...No. Bring in someone new.
Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)
Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.
Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.
It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
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