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Even before 2010 ended, publications from Fortune to TechCrunch to others started the prediction game: what will happen to the biggest rivalry in gadget world.

Everybody accepts the simple facts:
- Apple started/redefined the business of smartphones and tablets (just like PC)
- Apple is highly profitable in selling either (just like PC)
- Their market leadership in both is eroding fast (just like PC)

The difference is this time around Google is playing Microsoft role from the PC era...

The question every "prophet" answers differently is "Where do we go from here?"

- some believe history will repeat itself and Apple will end up having 10% marketshare and make the most money (just like PC);
Growth targets are just starting to trickle out, but HTC, who make high end Android devices and a few Windows Phone 7 devices expect to triple their 2010 output in 2011. Yet if things play out the way Rubin, Google, Broadcom and HTC hope, even that may wind up being a conservative estimate for Android growth. What's most interesting is that unless Apple (AAPL) has a plan to keep up, their iPhone, once one of the only usable smartphone games in town, may wind up back where most Apple products are slotted-- at the top of the market, affordable only to those willing and able to pay a premium for Steve Jobs' aesthetic sensibilities.

- others believe Apple will release cheap iPhones and compete for marketshare this time around
I think Apple will sell a ton of devices because they're good, and superbly marketed. I think a bunch of people will sell a ton of Android devices because they're good and there are so many options for different needs and networks and price-points.

I wouldn't be surprised if Apple shipped a cheap iPhone. And there's nothing fundamental in Android that would get in the way of a industrial-design and user-experience rock-star team, whether at Google or one of the handset makers, testing the hypothesis that these things are central to Apple's success.

- others believe there is nothing in common between 2011 and 1995 because iOS has most of the developers and distribution channels
So, when someone says that Apple is repeating the mistakes of 1995 (yes, I've been guilty of saying that in the past couple of years too) you should tell them that 2011 is not even close to the same set of conditions as 1995 has.

It would be really interesting to see how these predictions play out...

There is even hope that North America will start grasping Grade 1 math among other things
The insanely-high volume of mobile-device sales isn't going to ease off any time soon.

Like Horace Dediu says, "the bottom of the phone market is very vulnerable to becoming smart". The future of bone-simple "Feature phones" isn't over, but their days in the overwhelming majority are numbered. Go ask Gordon Moore.

Android and iOS will do really well. RIM and Nokia are headed for market-share declines; but it would be perfectly possible for either of them to halt their slide.

Windows Phone 7 might start getting some real traction; I wouldn't be surprised either way.

An unencumbered high-end handset at around $500 is cheaper than the same device at $199 with a contract. I wonder if someone will notice this and offer conventional financing packages like you can get for fridges and TVs.

Diogen.

EDIT:
This prediction I liked the most
Apple will totally do a 7" device. Anyone who's spent quality time reading books or playing games on the Galaxy Tab knows; there's a great big hole in the ecosystem that needs something bigger than a handset but that still fits in one hand and you can use for four hours in a row sitting up. This argument is over.
I'd love to see St. Jobs' spin on Apple releasing a DOA-size tablet...:)
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TheForce
If Jobs does a 7" device it will not be an ipad 7" model because many of the apps will not fit on that form factor. Of course you wouldn't know this unless you had an ipad and used some apps that were designed around the ipad form factor. I just installed one today that would be greatly limited if done on any aspect ratio and size other than the ipad. It is a dual keyboard piano that two people can play sitting opposite each other for a duet. The piano is real sounding and nice size keys easy to play like a regular short piano keyboard.
Now I could see Jobs making a cut down version of the ipad for a primary camera and video conferencing device, web browser, reader, e-mail, weather and such. Games would be limited as well as log entry and some financial multi data displays like the Bloomberg app, CNBC app and the Ameritrade app would be very difficult on anything smaller than the ipad. Then making it a clam shell with hard keyboard. More like a really small airbook, as opposed to a cut down ipad. Now we have the option of a netbook like device that fits in your coat pocket and is light and can do spreadsheets, data and minimal creation tasks.
mike123abc
They could just keep the same number of pixels and increase pixel density to fit it to 7", you would just need better eyesite to use it.
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ios, android and iphone all in one

i wish we could have the best of this 3 mobile os, just like this concept, the combination of ios, wp7 and android:

YouTube - 02 - Imagine Alpha - Notification, Widgets and Folders
YouTube - 01 - Imagine Alpha - Promo Trailer
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Since the traditional bean counters like IDC and Gartner are now in the prediction business, I thought I'll give it a shot.:)
I'll try the same way I did for the Blu-ray vs. DVD around the time BD won the hidef war against HD-DVD, i.e. beginning of 2008.
Three years later, it turned out, I was much closer to reality than most of the corporate "prophets"...
http://www.satelliteguys.us/hd-dvd-forum/240626-hd-vs-sd-two-years-later.html#post2437109

I will start with the assumption that the iOS vs. Android war in the tablet market will be similar to the war the same players waged in the smartphone market.
But since the number of players in each of these markets it so different, we will look only at the relative market share between Android and iOS.
According to this article Android had 1/6 the market share iOS held over the course of 2010.
Some references claim it was closer to 1/5 by the end of 2010 but we'll see later that this hardly matters.

Around the end of 2009 (if you check this post) Android had 1/10 of iOS market in September and 1/5 - in December.
And this post shows the time when Android and iOS had about the same smartphone OS marketshare - November 2010.
In other words, Android jumped from being not more than 1/5 to par with iOS in marketshare over the course of one year.

Again, we are neither looking at the marketshare numbers per-se (only relative), nor taking into account other players regardless of their share and role.
I assume that both, Google and Apple, will "fight" in the tablet market the same way they did in the smartphone and their relative dynamics will be comparable.

I think one correction is needed.
I believe Apple realizes that they can't be as "greedy" in the tablet market as they were in the smartphone (much less of a must-have item) and will sell their tablets at a lower profit margin. Also, Google will have a harder time to keep their partners happy and both those factors will double the chase time (I know, very un-scientific).

Bottom line, based on what is outlined above, here is my prediction: not later than in two years,
1Q 2013, Android and iOS will have about the same tablet OS market share.

I don't know what that share will be and whether any of the two will be the leader - my claim is that they will be on par.

Will see what happens...:p

Diogen.
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There is even hope that North America will start grasping Grade 1 math among other things)
It might happen one day...
Carriers: act swiftly if you want to save the low-end smartphone | This is my next...

Diogen.
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city :rolleyes:
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I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Not alot of dish customers any more
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I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.
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I really dislike change for the sake of change
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
Jimbo
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
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Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
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dishstaller
BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.
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If you're going try to read / listen to the book (can't recommend the audio book enough) before this comes out, I'd avoid trailers.

Trailer below, spoiling it to make sure you read the above bold message first. The book / audio book are fantastic. Go into this blind if you can IMO!




Kind of disappointed at how much they show. A lot still to see, but man, some good reveals in the book that are just served up here.
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I've seen it twice. Can't recommend the audio book enough, Ray Porter's performance is amazing and there's so much more in the book than the movie.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
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Forgot to comment. I did watch when it first came out on MGM. I enjoyed it a lot. I think reading the book made it easier to watch. Several friends commented it was a little hard to follow.
TRG
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"astrophage". I read the book but didn't see the film yet.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
That's what I will be watching this weekend.🤗
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Kindle book on sale for $2.99 today at Amazon.
dishstaller
.........there's so much more in the book than the movie.
I agree. That can go for pretty much any book vs movie. Back when I was single I would read any Stephen King or John Grisham book I could get my hands on. When you read a book you make up the scenes and characters in your mind.....the movie version always disappoints.
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.

Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place. :eek:
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
meStevo
Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


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I had quit watching this show years ago because I ended up more annoyed than entertained. Well......I'm STILL more annoyed than entertained. I DO find it interesting to see how things work behind the scenes at many businesses. What annoys me is how utterly out of touch CEOs are with the companies they run. At the end of almost every episode the head of the company is amazed at how hard the employees have to work and many times have to work around impossible guidelines set forth from headquarters.

I found this one interesting because the new CEO had big plans for this company, Muscle Maker Grill, and it looked like the stores were all pretty busy. Recent history hasn't been good to this company however. I bet the covid lockdowns were the real killer.


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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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White Christmas - Elvis Presley
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Dirty White Boy - Foreigner
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Tickle Me (Dirty, Dirty Feeling) - Elvis Presley
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Dirty Diana - Michael Jackson