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Last reply Feb 7, 2011 · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

Compression F Connectors w/O-Ring; Does it really make a difference?

Does the Compression F Connectors w/O-Ring in the bottom of the connectors treads really make a difference for outdoor use ? My installer did not use these. Just wanted to know if this could cause a problem later on with moisture? Thanks

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Joe Diamond

Feb 6, 2011

keyfinder said:
Does the Compression F Connectors w/O-Ring in the bottom of the connectors treads really make a difference for outdoor use ? My installer did not use these. Just wanted to know if this could cause a problem later on with moisture? Thanks

Really good question!

DirecTV "approves" a compression fitting that uses a different principle. The compression fitting grips into the side of the cable and makes a very strong and waterproof seal without the need for an "O" ring or gel. I don't like them because they are about $.25 each.

The "F" connector with gel & "O" ring is my favorite....because they work well and are about $.09 each. I have used thousands of these over many years and have not discovered failures.

As it is with many mechanical things, it is the correct application of the materials that makes the difference. The main reason for failure of the compression fitting is the failure to compress the fitting with the correct tool. The other failure is incorrect splicing of the cable so some wire scrap shorts the end of the cable.

The main reason for the failure of the "F" fitting is the variable diameter of cable made by different manufacturers. If the cable is too thin the tool will not crimp the fitting correctly. Likewise "F" fittings that are too big will not correctly slide into the cable end or crimp correctly. These also need to be spliced correctly and crimped to avoid a defect.

I might add that you really do need good light to cut fittings to avoid wire scrap in the fitting. They continue to schedule work after dark and it gets done correctly most of the time.

I have never seen a comparison between a correctly compressed compression fitting and a correctly cut "F" fitting with "O" ring & gel. I think the difference is that a new tech will have a better chance getting the compression fitting to work correctly with little training.

There is a debate about the use of the gel to waterproof and lubricate the fitting threads. Also the use of various kinds of boots to keep water out continue to be accepted and rejected.

Part of a correct fitting use must be a drip loop / service loop to keep water from flowing into the fitting. I like using an enclosure or "drop box" like the phone companies but...cost considerations dumped these.

Good question!

Joe

spaceghost

Feb 6, 2011

Im a pretty big fan of EX6XL's. I don't think i've ever seen signs of corrosion from these, unlike many of the others out there....outside of bad cabling or bad crimp job. The only negative thing about EX6's is that its very very difficult to get them onto plenum cable.

JerseyMatt

Feb 6, 2011

Joe Diamond said:
Really good question!

DirecTV "approves" a compression fitting that uses a different principle. The compression fitting grips into the side of the cable and makes a very strong and waterproof seal without the need for an "O" ring or gel. I don't like them because they are about $.25 each.

The "F" connector with gel & "O" ring is my favorite....because they work well and are about $.09 each. I have used thousands of these over many years and have not discovered failures.

As it is with many mechanical things, it is the correct application of the materials that makes the difference. The main reason for failure of the compression fitting is the failure to compress the fitting with the correct tool. The other failure is incorrect splicing of the cable so some wire scrap shorts the end of the cable.

The main reason for the failure of the "F" fitting is the variable diameter of cable made by different manufacturers. If the cable is too thin the tool will not crimp the fitting correctly. Likewise "F" fittings that are too big will not correctly slide into the cable end or crimp correctly. These also need to be spliced correctly and crimped to avoid a defect.

I might add that you really do need good light to cut fittings to avoid wire scrap in the fitting. They continue to schedule work after dark and it gets done correctly most of the time.

I have never seen a comparison between a correctly compressed compression fitting and a correctly cut "F" fitting with "O" ring & gel. I think the difference is that a new tech will have a better chance getting the compression fitting to work correctly with little training.

There is a debate about the use of the gel to waterproof and lubricate the fitting threads. Also the use of various kinds of boots to keep water out continue to be accepted and rejected.

Part of a correct fitting use must be a drip loop / service loop to keep water from flowing into the fitting. I like using an enclosure or "drop box" like the phone companies but...cost considerations dumped these.

Good question!

Joe

First of all, "F" is the name of the connector type, regardless of the cable type or installation style. It doesn't matter if it is crimped onto RG-6, a compression fitting on RG-11, or a Home Depot "twister" on RG-59 - if it is used for cable or satellite TV, it is an "F" connector. Just had to get that out of the way..

That said, you will never get a better 3-step connector than compression. By design, when you compress the ring, they develop a watertight seal where the cable enters the connector. The same can not be said for crimp connections. To achieve the same degree of watertightness, you have to fill the cable end with gel before inserting the cable. Reason is the hex crimp, no matter how tight you get it, always has open corners where water can seep in. This is even visible on 'factory made' cables where the crimps are made by hydraulic press.

As far as the connection itself, if it is wrench-tight, water can't get in. The purpose of the O ring is so create a seal at hand-tight so it can be easily disconnected. Since these connections under normal circumstances will never need to be touched, I see no reason to use them.

Boots do nothing except to try to keep the outside of the connector from oxidizing. IMHO they do exactly the opposite because they are never completely watertight, so all they do is hold water in for a lot longer than the connector would have been exposed to if the boot weren't there.

dishrich

Feb 6, 2011

JerseyMatt said:
As far as the connection itself, if it is wrench-tight, water can't get in. The purpose of the O ring is so create a seal at hand-tight so it can be easily disconnected. Since these connections under normal circumstances will never need to be touched, I see no reason to use them.

The purpose of the O ring is/was to keep water from coming into the connector thru the metal threads on which are you screwing that said connector ONTO. (ground block, splitter, switch, etc.) The compression part of the connector is NOT going to stop this from happening, period. Problem even on those O rings, while it does keep the water from reaching the inner conductor, it IS still allowing the water to get inside those threads & start the corrosion process from inside. You can sit there all day & "wrench tighten" a connector onto an exposed outside ground block or splitter - water WILL still get around & into those threads anyway.

THAT is why almost every cable co also uses coax seals/grommets on outside connections, so that you stop the water BEFORE it even gets into those threads. DirecTV even pre-installs these now on ALL their outside devices now, such as muti-switches, SWM splitters, & even now the LNB's themselves.

a1Components - Skywalker Signature Series 1/2" Rubber Grommets, qty100

Why DO you think all these companies went to these seals, if "wrench tightening" itself was adequate?
You keep the water out & the inside will normally stay corrosion free for years. They are NOT the same as those boots you speak of & yes, those do hurt more than help.

Tyralak

Feb 6, 2011

spaceghost said:
Im a pretty big fan of EX6XL's. I don't think i've ever seen signs of corrosion from these, unlike many of the others out there....outside of bad cabling or bad crimp job. The only negative thing about EX6's is that its very very difficult to get them onto plenum cable.

That's why you don't use them on Plenum cable. You use these:

They're designed for Plenum. The right tool for the job, my friend.

Tyralak

Feb 6, 2011

dishrich said:
Why DO you think all these companies went to these seals, if "wrench tightening" itself was adequate?
You keep the water out & the inside will normally stay corrosion free for years. They are NOT the same as those boots you speak of & yes, those do hurt more than help.

You mean like how Dish discontinued their use a little over 2 years ago because they showed 1. no discernible benefit and 2. If the fitting was not torqued correctly, they trapped water in resulting in further problems?

Yeah. You realize we get dinged if we don't remove those things? So much for your theory.

spaceghost

Feb 7, 2011

Tyralak said:
That's why you don't use them on Plenum cable. You use these:

They're designed for Plenum. The right tool for the job, my friend.

TY for the heads up on this! Usually when you're thrown into the trenches, you're either given ammo or the rifle ... I don't think I received either as it seems.

kjlued

Feb 7, 2011

Well, in this case our faithful leaders sell us the ammo, and say we can only use the ammo they provide. Doesn't matter what you know and if you know there is better ammo for the job, you still use what they provide. Only reason is so they can make a dollar off what you buy. I am just glad my shop doesn't jack the prices up on top of that though like some of the local shops around here does.

Daddy Dithers

Feb 7, 2011

Apparently in my locale Dish is not required to use an outside of the fitting weather seal of any kind. More often than not when disassemblig there stuff and replacing with DTV systems I find evidence of moisture related failure in their barrels/ground blocks. I seldom find that to be the case when upgrading/servicing our own when the weather seals like the ones that are pre-installed on our 6x8s/ground blocks/SWM switches are used. Here on the coast salt air wreaks havoc on the external parts of fittings exposed. Even with that where the boots are used the internal parts of the the connectors look pretty darned good vs. what they look externally and as a rule are working properly. Anytime you put salt water, electricity, and dissimilar metals together you will have corrosion.

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Peter Parker

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Last reply 32 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

DISH Hopper 3 Software Version 713 Is Out

No idea what improvements might be involved.

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bookworm370

Yesterday at 3:17 PM

Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.

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reubenray

Yesterday at 6:40 PM

I got the 713 update yesterday.

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naptime

Today at 1:05 AM

I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.

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reubenray

Today at 6:14 AM

bookworm370 said:
Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.

My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.

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Bobby

32 minutes ago

naptime said:
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.

This has been an ongoing issue. A fix is coming, probably in the next software version.

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Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

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Last reply 40 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

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So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

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Another example:

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An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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telebiker

Last reply 47 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Hopper and Dish Hopper Plus No Alexa in settings

I have Dish Hopper and Hopper Plus and also have Alexa Echo. I link the Alex skill to Dish and it asks me to enter the pairing code shown on the TV. I go into Dish Settings and there is no Alexa shown. Not sure what to do.

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Almighty1

Mar 14, 2026

tanman shows the Hopper 3 without the Hopper Plus. The Hopper 3 connected to Hopper Plus has a different screen which for me does not have Amazon Alexa either, probably because with the Hopper Plus connected, the DISH Settings is actually an app on the Hopper Plus.

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KAB

Mar 15, 2026

Almighty1 said:
tanman shows the Hopper 3 without the Hopper Plus. The Hopper 3 connected to Hopper Plus has a different screen which for me does not have Amazon Alexa either, probably because with the Hopper Plus connected, the DISH Settings is actually an app on the Hopper Plus.

Yep, I got a Joey 4 (designed to work with H Plus) and no Alexa iconl

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HipKat

Mar 15, 2026

Guys,
Android is Google. Google is Android. Android OS and Google TV are the same thing.
The Hopper+ and Joey 4's run Android TV, which is Google's television version of Android.
That means under the hood, you have:

Linux kernel
Android framework
Google TV / Android TV interface
Google Play Store for TV apps

Alexa is the competition. Google is not going to host their competition.
The old Hopper Carbon UI is NOT Google so that's why Alexa was on there.

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Harryhaggle

Mar 18, 2026

Understood. But here's the rub - Google Assistant setup is ALSO missing from the Hopper Plus setup. I'm a paraplegic.and need to use voice controls as much as possible but I can't press a button on the remote to activate Google Assistant. I prefer ALEXA (or ALEXA+) but I have one older google device and will go that route IF they make it available. BTW calling Dish Customer Service is no help- they just say they have no info on if/when there will be an update.

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navychop

Mar 18, 2026

Ungood.

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reubenray

47 minutes ago

What is the purpose of connecting Alexa and the H3?

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cpdretired

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Last reply 52 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish Offers

Several Dish offers showed up today in my account. Once you choose one the rest are removed. Offers were Showtime, Starz, AMC and others.

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Darrell S

Yesterday at 3:21 PM

I tried on Hopper last night. Many more offers than the website has. I even got 3 free months of Gallery. Only offered 1 month on website

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Yesterday at 4:35 PM

I got Starz/Encore again for 50% off for 3 months yesterday.

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reubenray

Today at 9:28 AM

Darrell S said:
I tried on Hopper last night. Many more offers than the website has. I even got 3 free months of Gallery. Only offered 1 month on website

How do I check for offers on my H3? My contract runs out in January.

OH - how about them Tigers!!

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Darrell S

Today at 9:52 AM

reubenray said:
How do I check for offers on my H3? My contract runs out in January.

OH - how about them Tigers!!

You have to find my account in the settings. Only works if you're connected to internet.

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reubenray

52 minutes ago

Darrell S said:
You have to find my account in the settings. Only works if you're connected to internet.

Thanks, I found it. I have no offers.

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TVHabit

Last reply 53 minutes ago · posted in Free To Air (FTA) Discussion

Hybrid Dish setup

Picked up a sweet directv dish, mount, twin lnbs and a short cable.
Has anyone converted one to FTA? A Frankenstein of sorts...

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Titanium

Tuesday at 5:10 PM

Yes, many have hacked a DirecTV or Dish Network dish before. Quite undersized, but would receive the 97w KU stations with an LNBF swap. Make a template to set the LNBF face angle and distance from the reflector. Remove the current circular polarity LNBFs and make a bracket to hold the replacement linear LNBF in the correct centered position. Remember to set the polarity skew.

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Brct203

Tuesday at 9:07 PM

would probably also work well for NHK on 101W and possibly for PBS on 99W. I used one for a while on 30W. Just keep in mind that because it's undersized for those satellites, it might work fine in clear weather but won't have much margin to account for signal degradation during rain/snow

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one_db_compression

Tuesday at 10:22 PM

If you can find one, the Shaw / Star Choice 75e ellipticals are great for use on 97, 99, and 101W. They are really just rebranded ChannelMaster 75 cm reflectors and use linear LNBFs by default out of the box.

Everyone else's mileage may vary.

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TVHabit

53 minutes ago

I have read that some have converted this type dish but after giving it a good look, it's the lnb conversion that is the bottleneck. Does anyone have a picture of their attempt to configure the lnb? I watched a video on youtube from the save it for parts guy and he used duct tape! Guess it worked but I'm thinking something a bit more permanent!
Thanks to all for your interest and replies...

meStevo

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Last reply 59 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

AI thread

A continuation of a thread from the pub, just general discussion of AI.

Brief 60 minute clip about next gem autonomous fighters - not remote controlled, but rather collaborating with controllers and aircraft in the theater.

View: https://youtu.be/DRm0mbp_n1k

We've literally got a movie already about this

View: https://youtu.be/a2PW7a9ViDc

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meStevo

Oct 9, 2026

Agreed, it mostly regurgitates known solutions. That's the point. Nobody needs an innovative fix for a driver error or a creative way to format a report. Let it handle the solved problems so people can spend their time on the ones that aren't.

harshness

Oct 9, 2026

meStevo said:
Agreed, it mostly regurgitates known solutions. That's the point.

That's the point at which innovation ends, and there's no longer any point to software engineering other than swatting bugs that result from misapplication.

meStevo

Oct 9, 2026

harshness said:
That's the point at which innovation ends, and there's no longer any point to software engineering other than swatting bugs that result from misapplication.

Addressed by what you didn't quote. This cycle is as old as computing: compilers, libraries, frameworks each automated the tedious part, and the human work moved up a level. Innovation didn't end; it shifted. And people still make new compilers, libraries or frameworks.

Nobody's forced to hand anything off. Anyone who wants to keep doing it by hand still can, and people who couldn't do it at all now can.

harshness

Oct 9, 2026

meStevo said:
... and people who couldn't do it at all now can.

Misapplication isn't something that the casual coder can identify. They can only discover, the hard way, that it doesn't work at some point.

meStevo

Oct 9, 2026

harshness said:
Misapplication isn't something that the casual coder can identify. They can only discover, the hard way, that it doesn't work at some point.

You're not wrong, but that's part of learning. Whether from others or our own mistakes, we've all learned that lesson one way or another.

harshness

Oct 9, 2026

meStevo said:
Whether from others or our own mistakes, we've all learned that lesson one way or another.

I'm not sure that the school of hard knocks is the quickest or surest education to find your way.

There are many examples in the headlines of people getting burned multiple times and not wavering in their pursuit of stupidity.

meStevo

Oct 9, 2026

harshness said:
I'm not sure that the school of hard knocks is the quickest or surest education to find your way.

Good thing not everyone will have to learn the hard way then. The same tools can explain why something broke.

harshness said:
There are many examples in the headlines of people getting burned multiple times and not wavering in their pursuit of stupidity.

This is true of literally anything, though.

Happy to agree to disagree, but I'm already enjoying the dividends personally and helping others at work and at home do the same.

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harshness

Oct 9, 2026

meStevo said:
This is true of literally anything, though.

Do you think that means we ought to be supporting it as the long-term solution?

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Been reading this thread but not commenting much, primarily because there is so much "news" out there on this topic and it is hard to tell what is real and what is theater.
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Last reply Today at 6:19 AM · posted in The Sports Section

2026-27 NCAA College Football

Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.

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Yespage

Thursday at 4:57 PM

24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:

All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff
- Independent of record too! Bonus.
MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.
I'm out of ideas.

Cons

Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games
- Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff
Going to start resting players?
- The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!
- Resting players could make games dumb.
- Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.
How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!

AZ.

Thursday at 5:30 PM

Yespage said:
24 team playoff seems to be real close.

Are we really that far from a 64-team tournament?

The benefit of the 24 team playoff:

All the cartel teams that cartels want in playoff are in playoff

Independent of record too! Bonus.

MONEY!!!!! for the cartels.

I'm out of ideas.

Cons

Regular season really doesn't matter now other than the rivalry games

Top cartel teams can lose three games and still make the playoff

Going to start resting players?

The playoff is going to be *checks notes* several games!

Resting players could make games dumb.

Maybe even restrict NIL players from games played.

How much are streaming sub costs going up a month to pay for this?!

One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.

Jimbo

Thursday at 5:47 PM

AZ. said:
One of the pro's I see is in a year with so many undefeated teams they have a good chance of an opening. Few years back you had lower divisions that didnt get a shot. I love collage football and I have no problem with that addition.

We are in what week 5 now? Been two real good ranked games to watch.....Other than that top 25 teams are playing nothing.

There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...

AZ.

Thursday at 9:12 PM

Jimbo said:
There are 68 Power 4 teams, so eventually they will get there I wouldn't imagine ...

Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....

Jimbo

Thursday at 9:24 PM

AZ. said:
Far from it but you know that....You dont like the larger playoff.....Its ok.....

Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...
Edit, Bama plays 4, Georgia plays 3, But Ole Miss plays 5 (didn't expect to see that)

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.

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AZ.

Thursday at 9:27 PM

Jimbo said:
Oh, I Hate the idea ...

It would be different if it was a game that you could play 2 or games each week, but when you only play 1 game a week, the larger playoff is Not a good thing ...

The season has how many games now, is it 14 ... then you want to play another 5 (with more to come) against Top 12 (eventually 24 teams) ... remember, the 5 games in the playoffs will be the hardest games all year and back to back.

For example, IF Ohio State should win it all this year ... they play 5 teams in the Top 25, plus they would play 5 more to win it all, depending on how the ranking shake out and if Bye weeks are given.

Thats 10 Ranked teams ... in one year ...
I don't see that happening very often ...

That said, I don't see the Buckeyes winning it all this year.

Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?

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Jimbo

Thursday at 10:07 PM

AZ. said:
Yes anyone here knows you 100%....Astros failed no posting...Ohio state loses we hear it.....Its ok....Its called an opinion....I have one so do you.....Problem is?

Seeing theres very little activity in the MLB threads, it wouldn't matter if I posted that the Astros didn't make the Playoffs ...

Theres more NFL info in the Pub section than in the Sports/NFL thread.

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meStevo

Friday at 6:20 PM

Jimbo said:
Theres more NFL info in the Pub section than in the Sports/NFL thread.

Nah, you just don't understand how ignore works, which is why you made your own NFL thread thinking there wasn't one

Howard Simmons

Yesterday at 7:45 PM

osu1991 said:
View: https://youtu.be/Dj-pH4x_Z1Q?is=CHrZoqR0K3GnQb35

Down Goes the SEC

Foxbat

Yesterday at 8:17 PM

osu1991 said:

They ought to have fun with this… :devilish

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osu1991

Yesterday at 10:14 PM

Foxbat said:
They ought to have fun with this…

Was thinking same thing. It should be a good week for sec shorts and roll call

reubenray

Today at 6:19 AM

A lot of upsets yesterday, but my LSU Tigers won.

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brittanygarden

Staff member Pub Member / Supporter

Last reply Today at 6:15 AM · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Are you experiencing an issue with your 3rd party remote since the newest Hopper update?

Please post your remote make/model here and any details of your issue. We are looking to collect as many examples as possible. I may reach out to you for your receiver number, but please do not post it here.

If you've already reported this to me, please repost it here so I can track all instances in one thread.

Thanks!
Brittany

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bookworm370

Monday at 9:50 AM

I have a solution that is guaranteed to work.
All Hopper developers are required to turn in their RF Hopper remotes and use only IR remotes.

I guarantee you that the bug will be fixed in two days!
Try it; it will work! They will work 24 hours a day to fix it when the WAF goes into the toilet!

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GRB1959

Monday at 10:31 AM

bookworm370 said:
I have a solution that is guaranteed to work.
All Hopper developers are required to turn in their RF Hopper remotes and use only IR remotes.

I guarantee you that the bug will be fixed in two days!
Try it; it will work! They will work 24 hours a day to fix it when the WAF goes into the toilet!

Excellent suggestion.

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Foxbat

Tuesday at 6:49 PM

I think I have a separate issue with our Hopper 3 when watching/recording a 4K event. I have had many instances of it spontaneously restarting when I "disturbed" it during a 4K event. I learned to not touch the remote after a given point.

But it might be the IR code subroutine and 4K that make it touchy. I'll try it Wednesday night during the NLCS Game 3.

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JeffN9

Tuesday at 7:14 PM

Foxbat said:
I think I have a separate issue with our Hopper 3 when watching/recording a 4K event. I have had many instances of it spontaneously restarting when I "disturbed" it during a 4K event. I learned to not touch the remote after a given point.

But it might be the IR code subroutine and 4K that make it touchy. I'll try it Wednesday night during the NLCS Game 3.

I was having similar issues last night while watching and recording the NLCS game on 148. When I tried resuming the game at one point the screen went blank and I couldn't get my H3 to respond to any remote commands. Eventually the Hopper went to a HD channel but still no remote response. After a while the Hopper went into a re-boot cycle. This happened at least 3 times. I was using an IR universal remote only.

A little frustrating to have the game broken up like that but at least the Brewers won

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bookworm370

Yesterday at 3:13 PM

GRB1959 said:
Excellent suggestion.

Yea, I've only been a CIO for the last 30 years!

Trust me, when something important breaks, they get to own it!

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Astroman3427

Yesterday at 7:20 PM

Loaded H713 software on my Hopper 3 last week. Have not seen any change in the IR/RF remote issues with my Harmony 700.
Has Dish acknowledged this is a problem and are they committed to fixing it?
I'd be happy to roll back to last July.

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long_time_Dish

Today at 12:39 AM

Astroman3427 said:
Loaded H713 software on my Hopper 3 last week. Have not seen any change in the IR/RF remote issues with my Harmony 700.
Has Dish acknowledged this is a problem and are they committed to fixing it?
I'd be happy to roll back to last July. <-----|

Absolutely!!!---------------------------------------------|

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reubenray

Today at 6:15 AM

Astroman3427 said:
Loaded H713 software on my Hopper 3 last week. Have not seen any change in the IR/RF remote issues with my Harmony 700.
Has Dish acknowledged this is a problem and are they committed to fixing it?
I'd be happy to roll back to last July.

I got 713 a few days ago and nothing has changed concerning the IR/RF remote issues.

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