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talljoel

Last reply Apr 19, 2011 · posted in DIRECTV General Forum

MLB Extra Inning - Giants/Padres Blacked out in Chicago.

I have sent the following e-mail to Directv:

My local Regional Sports Network is Comcast SportsNet Chicago.

I have the Sports Package and MLB Extra Innings Package.

The program guide showed tonight's (April 5, 20110) San Francisco / San Diego game was on channel 723 and 723-1. I was blackout on both of these channels.

Major League Baseball did not black out the game. I am not in the San Francisco area or the San Diego area. The game was not on any of my local channels. It was not on a national channel. I have an online contact that is in New York. He was able to view the game on channel 723-1.

I understand the blackout rules. The game was blacked out in error by Directv.

This is the second game that was blacked out in error.

What is Directv doing to correct these blackout errors?

If Directv does not fix this problem and I have more games blacked out in error I will have no choice but to cancel MLB Extra Inning and I would expect a full refund.

____________________________________________________________

I know I will have trouble getting a MLB Extra Inning refund

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grb

Apr 13, 2011

I turned on the MLB channel around 11:30 a.m. (PDT) today to watch either the Royals/Twins or Rangers/Tigers. The program started at 10:00 a.m. according to the guide. I got a blackout message and the system was searching for other channels for this game(s). There were no other channels carrying this game(s). Since I live in Southern California, at least 1 - 2,000 miles from either of these games, I called Directv to question the blackout. Unfortunately, after an hour and 3 different people, I was still confused why there was a blackout in Southern California. They indicated that the blackout was for all of USA and they THINK it was because the games were not sold out and the broadcasts were suspended. I asked them to explain the blackout rules to me as the reason they gave does not appear on the Directv website under blackouts. Why would they not broadcast a game 2,000 miles away because it was not sold out? This is not going to affect ticket sales in any way. Since 99% of baseball games are not sold out anyway, does that mean that we are going to be blacked for the majority of future baseball games on MLB? I thought I understood blackout rules but it appears there are now subjective rules that can be applied arbitrarily -- or at least that's what Directv is telling me...

This was particulary frustrating for me to spend an hour on the phone and go up the ladder from the tech support rep to his supervisor to the supervisor's supervisor, and not get an explanation I could believe. I felt like I was getting a snow job from each of them and they were making up answers as they went along. Even more frustrating is the MLB channel is one of the major reasons I left Dish...

king3pj

Apr 14, 2011

grb said:
I turned on the MLB channel around 11:30 a.m. (PDT) today to watch either the Royals/Twins or Rangers/Tigers. The program started at 10:00 a.m. according to the guide. I got a blackout message and the system was searching for other channels for this game(s). There were no other channels carrying this game(s). Since I live in Southern California, at least 1 - 2,000 miles from either of these games, I called Directv to question the blackout. Unfortunately, after an hour and 3 different people, I was still confused why there was a blackout in Southern California. They indicated that the blackout was for all of USA and they THINK it was because the games were not sold out and the broadcasts were suspended. I asked them to explain the blackout rules to me as the reason they gave does not appear on the Directv website under blackouts. Why would they not broadcast a game 2,000 miles away because it was not sold out? This is not going to affect ticket sales in any way. Since 99% of baseball games are not sold out anyway, does that mean that we are going to be blacked for the majority of future baseball games on MLB? I thought I understood blackout rules but it appears there are now subjective rules that can be applied arbitrarily -- or at least that's what Directv is telling me...

This was particulary frustrating for me to spend an hour on the phone and go up the ladder from the tech support rep to his supervisor to the supervisor's supervisor, and not get an explanation I could believe. I felt like I was getting a snow job from each of them and they were making up answers as they went along. Even more frustrating is the MLB channel is one of the major reasons I left Dish...

Baseball doesn't do the sell out blackout rule. The NFL is the only one that does that and they only blackout within 70 miles of the home team's stadium or something like that.

grb

Apr 14, 2011

king3pj said:
Baseball doesn't do the sell out blackout rule. The NFL is the only one that does that and they only blackout within 70 miles of the home team's stadium or something like that.

That's what I thought, too. This confirms that the 3 reps I talked to were giving me a snow job. Bottom line, they just don't know and instead of admitting it, they try to come up with some BS to pacify you. I wonder if that broadcast on 213 was really blacked out for all of the USA or I got a blackout in error. Very frustrating to not be able to watch a scheduled broadcast and then not be given a valid reason why not. I have had D* for less than 3 months now but I had it several years ago. They used to be solid in their blackout of sports several years ago, but they have deteriorated substantially since then. Very disappointing...

talljoel

Apr 14, 2011

grb said:
That's what I thought, too. This confirms that the 3 reps I talked to were giving me a snow job. Bottom line, they just don't know and instead of admitting it, they try to come up with some BS to pacify you. I wonder if that broadcast on 213 was really blacked out for all of the USA or I got a blackout in error. Very frustrating to not be able to watch a scheduled broadcast and then not be given a valid reason why not. I have had D* for less than 3 months now but I had it several years ago. They used to be solid in their blackout of sports several years ago, but they have deteriorated substantially since then. Very disappointing...

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The CSR's and the CSR's supervisors will not admit Directv blackouts games in error. They will will blame MLB's blackout rules. You could have Bud Selig on the phone with you and he could tell the CSR the game was not blacked out by MLB and still the CSR will say Directv did not blackout the game - MLB did.

If you strongly feel a game was blacked out in error I suggest you e-mail: Ellen Filipiak, Sr. VP of Customer Care. You can fine her e-mail address on Directv's website

In Chicago on channel 213 the game was not blacked out.

charper1

Apr 14, 2011

It should be said again; and me NOT knowing exactly why games are not on either, but not all "blackouts" are true blackouts; some games called blackout may be in a very limited viewing area based on who actually has the rights for that game. I have seen sometimes where ONLY the two (or sometime one) local affiliate has the broadcast rights. Its all a confusing mess having both fans AND DirecTV in the middle; and the bottom line compliant should always be directed to the MLB. "Just make it clear, simple and easy MLB" - for EVERYONE.

grb

Apr 15, 2011

talljoel said:
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The CSR's and the CSR's supervisors will not admit Directv blackouts games in error. They will will blame MLB's blackout rules. You could have Bud Selig on the phone with you and he could tell the CSR the game was not blacked out by MLB and still the CSR will say Directv did not blackout the game - MLB did.

If you strongly feel a game was blacked out in error I suggest you e-mail: Ellen Filipiak, Sr. VP of Customer Care. You can fine her e-mail address on Directv's website

In Chicago on channel 213 the game was not blacked out.

Thank you! You have verified my suspicion that they lied to me about the country-wide blackout. I will email as per your suggestion.

dodger72

Apr 15, 2011

WHY IS THE PRIMETICKET FEED BLACKOUT BUT NOT FS MIDWEST

grb

Apr 19, 2011

talljoel said:
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The CSR's and the CSR's supervisors will not admit Directv blackouts games in error. They will will blame MLB's blackout rules. You could have Bud Selig on the phone with you and he could tell the CSR the game was not blacked out by MLB and still the CSR will say Directv did not blackout the game - MLB did.

If you strongly feel a game was blacked out in error I suggest you e-mail: Ellen Filipiak, Sr. VP of Customer Care. You can fine her e-mail address on Directv's website

In Chicago on channel 213 the game was not blacked out.

I got a response to my email to Ellen Filipiak, Sr., VP of Customer Care. I got a "customer care advocate" who was more understanding of my frustration with unexplained blackouts, but, sadly, she was no more knowledgeable than the CSR's and tech reps I talked to before. She suggested that the local channel or RSN may have decided not to broadcast the game, which meant that no one in that region would get the game. When I reminded her that I was 1,000 - 2,000+ miles away from Michigan and Minnesota and any local blackout would not include me, she withdrew her suggestion. I told her that it was my belief that the MLB channel, like ESPN, has the rights for specific game broadcasts, and do so outside any local blackout regions. I asked her when was the last time ESPN blacked out a scheduled broadcast outside the areas that had RSN or local channel coverage. She conceded that she could not recall that ever happening. She then admitted that she didn't know why it was blacked out and that it may have been blacked out in error. She indicated that I can call the number emailed to me if I find another unexplainable blackout, and they will investigate it at that time and try to get an answer from the blackout gods or whoever it is that pushes the button that creates the blackout.

At least it looks like a move in the right direction. Small victories...

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dishstaller

Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter

Last reply 20 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

You can't even trust the cost per ounce info in grocery stores anymore

I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

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Jimbo

Today at 9:23 AM

dishstaller said:
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

Walmart isn't the only one ...

Juan

Today at 11:17 AM

dishstaller said:
I'm surprised Walmart hasn't banned this guy from all of their stores. He has been on their CASE the past few months.

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f3zr37ekgKM?feature=share

When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...the product label only shows the weight of the product...I am sure if you brought your own plastic baggies to bring the product home you could get the cheaper price

harshness

Today at 11:18 AM

Jimbo said:
Walmart isn't the only one ...

I've been seeing this more and more on Amazon. Sometimes it seems there is no way they could have arrived at the number.

What rankles me even more is Costco changing units of measure between similar products, so you have to convert them to compare prices.

dishstaller

Today at 11:47 AM

Juan said:
When walmart set a price...they weigh the container and the product...

Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.

b4pjoe

Today at 12:41 PM

Meat with a bone in it. It contributes to the weight.

harshness

Today at 12:57 PM

b4pjoe said:
Meat with a bone in it. It contributes to the weight.

Bone-in is a well-known and often prized attribute. Adding the tray and the film isn't right.

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Juan

20 minutes ago

dishstaller said:
Then they are stupid. Everyone knows that the price per ounce should be the price per ounce of actual product.

You are paying for the whole thing

SuperDish_Fan23

Last reply 24 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!

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HipKat

Monday at 8:55 AM

I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.

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telstar_1

Monday at 1:22 PM

HipKat said:
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.

I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.

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Nominal

Monday at 4:30 PM

telstar_1 said:
I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.

You are thinking of the 921. The 922 was the first DVR with Sling functionality built in (that was eventually disabled along with the Sling Adapter for the 722s and the 1st Hopper because they relied on now-defunct Adobe Flash technology). With the bugginess described by others and the removal of its marquee feature (Sling) the 922 faded into obscurity once the Hopper 2 with built in Sling was released and they finally made the concept into a fully functional product.

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dishdude

Monday at 5:05 PM

I had one, the front panel lighting was cool, the menus were fresh and a lot more modern looking than the ViPs. However, it was very buggy and the Sling functionality just didn't work well - I think it was due to internet speeds at the time. I think I had to pay $40 for the Sling app on my phone iirc.

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MikeD-C05

48 minutes ago

dishdude said:
I had one, the front panel lighting was cool, the menus were fresh and a lot more modern looking than the ViPs. However, it was very buggy and the Sling functionality just didn't work well - I think it was due to internet speeds at the time. I think I had to pay $40 for the Sling app on my phone iirc.

I had both the 921 and the 922. I used to buy them from DishDepot.com in Florida and trade in my older owned receiver towards the newest receiver. The 921 was a reboot receiver and the sling part was hit or miss. I look back on all those receivers I paid for over 25 years and I think it was just TV. If I had that money back now I would be lot richer. My Owned Hopper 3 is sitting in a drawer in my office not being used.

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telstar_1

24 minutes ago

That was part of the Ergen scheme, to sell the product as well as the service. And who didn't want the best box?

Maybe they went to the hopper because they were running out of 3-digit model #s- 1022 would have been kinda clunky. Folks would have tried to say "one-thousand and twenty two" instead of "ten-twenty-two".

Like some say "two thousand and twenty six".

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Scott Greczkowski

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU! Cutting Edge

Last reply 34 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne

Get it?

An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....

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Today at 10:40 AM

Where's My Thing? - Rush

harshness

Today at 11:08 AM

I Don't Wanna Miss a Thing - Aerosmith

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Today at 11:20 AM

Good Golly, Miss Molly - Little Richard

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Today at 11:42 AM

Little Miss Dangerous - Ted Nugent

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34 minutes ago

Little Miss Can't Be Wrong - Spin Doctors

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reubenray

Last reply 41 minutes ago · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Dish vs Streaming Apps?

Every time my Dish contract comes up I weigh the options of keeping Dish or switch to streaming. Right now I can watch/record the OTA channels vis my HDHomerun. I also can stream CBS and NBC via the Paramount+ and Peacock apps. What I would need to find is how to watch the Food Network, HGTV, Syfy, USA, Hallmark channels, Great American Family, Lifetime channels plus a few more with an app or two. My current Dish bill is $118, so I should be able to get a few apps for a lot less.

Any suggestions? I would want the best picture quality and audio quality I could get.

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Bruce

41 minutes ago

reubenray said:
Every time my Dish contract comes up I weigh the options of keeping Dish or switch to streaming. Right now I can watch/record the OTA channels vis my HDHomerun. I also can stream CBS and NBC via the Paramount+ and Peacock apps. What I would need to find is how to watch the Food Network, HGTV, Syfy, USA, Hallmark channels, Great American Family, Lifetime channels plus a few more with an app or two. My current Dish bill is $118, so I should be able to get a few apps for a lot less.

Any suggestions? I would want the best picture quality and audio quality I could get.

USA and SyFy content is on Peacock, you can the rest of those channels via Philo, only $25 a month.

Philo - Stream Live and On-Demand TV

Why pay more for TV? Start your Philo free trial and enjoy live TV plus on-demand content starting at just $25/month. Stream hit shows, movies, and more.

www.philo.com

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dfergie

Staff member HERE TO HELP YOU!

Last reply Today at 11:26 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Gas Price Info With National Gas Temperature Map

Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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harshness

Sunday at 11:30 AM

I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

harshness

Yesterday at 5:32 PM

harshness said:
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.

It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.

Foxbat

Yesterday at 8:39 PM

harshness said:
It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.

Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.

Bobby

Yesterday at 9:05 PM

Foxbat said:
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.

Winter blend is cheaper than Summer blend.

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Bobby

Today at 11:21 AM

Regular$5.839
Premium$6.299
Diesel$7.999
at Costco, Rohnert Park.

harshness

Today at 11:26 AM

Foxbat said:
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price?

Winter blend is reportedly 10-30 cents cheaper, but I would point out that prices have dropped as much as 62 cents at RP.

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Former member 209992

Last reply Today at 11:18 AM · posted in SatelliteGuys Support Center

Site is slooooow

For some reason, the satelliteguys.us site is loading a lot slower than usual on both Chrome on my Asus laptop and Safari on my iPhone.
I'm also seeing longer appearances of the blue bar at the top and the "3 blue bars" loading symbol.
Is anyone else also having the same problem? Thanks in advance.

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Scott Greczkowski

Saturday at 3:21 PM

Ok checked it out and for some reason the web server (NGINX) tried starting before the DNS resolver fully loaded. This is why it worked when I rebooted the machine.

Thanks to ChatGPT it had me change the NGINX config to prevent this from happening again.

With that said I can't prevent the ISP from doing emergency upgrades which was the cause of all of this.

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navychop

Saturday at 3:39 PM

Nature will develop better idiots.

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TRG

Saturday at 4:19 PM

navychop said:
Nature will develop better idiots.

God help us.

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Scott Greczkowski

Monday at 11:15 AM

I guess this is what the downtime was about.

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Scott Greczkowski

Today at 11:18 AM

Just a heads up... I just patched our PHP to close the major PHP exploit announced this morning.

Now on PHP 8.4.27 (cli) (built: Oct 20 2026 00:00:00)

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Gary Toma

Staff member Pub Member / Supporter Cutting Edge

Last reply Today at 10:40 AM · posted in DIRECTV Technical Resources Forum

DIRECTV Transponder Map ~ Data 10/14/2026

The TPN Map Excel Presents all DIRECTV Channels:

National (50-States or wide/NAT+PR beams)
Local (Local-Into-Local or narrow/Spot beams)

Additional tabs provide:

OTA the (Over-The-Air) Database
VOD (Video On_Demand) Records
Offline Records
Engr Records
Net Decoder a graphic presentation of all satellites and transponders

Domestic Satellites
@99W...... D11, D14
@101W.... D16
@103W.... D12, D15
@110W.... D5
@119W.... D8

Understanding the TPN Map

Making Sense of the TPN Map Display Conventions

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KyL416

Yesterday at 2:37 PM

WCWW/25 CW South Bend and WBKP/5 CW Marquette are now testing on the stream server. These are both already available on satellite.

Now live in the satellite guide:
663-2 PISTONS (663-1 is likely being reserved for an overflow feed of Detroit Sportsnet, if there's a 2027 MLB season)
675 THUNDER
693 CLIPPERS

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doctor J

Today at 7:22 AM

DirecTV Satellite Transponder Updates for Oct 21 2026

Comparison of Transponder Data for Oct 21 2026 vs Oct 14 2026:

No changes in system tables for any transponder tuning parameters.

Changes to the use of defined transponders:

1 Transponder cleared of all Streams::
Net 10 TID 126 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D11@99cb, TPN 3

1 Previously unused Transponder with current APG records::
Net 15 TID 15 Beam NAT is a National Transponder on D12@103ca, TPN 16

Stream (PID) counts:

LIVE Streams	National		Spot Beams
	Count	Change	Count	Change
4K	4
HD	264	2	1449
SD mpeg4	145		194
SD mpeg2	433
RB
Audio	89
Push	26
Slate	19		1

TEST Streams	National		Spot Beams
	Count	Change	Count	Change
4K
HD			1
SD mpeg4
SD mpeg2
RB
Engr Work	38	-2

The PID count Excel workbook provides much more count detail.

Newly updated tables of Streams on each transponder are available in the DataDigesters TPN Grids

More details of changes in individual channels will follow in the Weekly Analysis
and Gary Toma's Domestic TPN Map Excel files

NBA Updates
Weekly Analysis soon
Enjoy
DataDigesters

doctor J

Today at 7:23 AM

weekly Analysis for 10/21/2026:

Weekly_Analysis_261021.xlsx 16 KB

KyL416

Today at 7:25 AM

HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps

Mr Tony

Today at 10:40 AM

KyL416 said:
HAWKS, HORNETS, GRZZLIES, HEAT, MAGIC, CAVLIERS, TWOLVES, BUCKS, PACERS and SPURS channels have also been added, however they are pointing to a TV Promise slate, which says they are working with DAZN and others to strike a deal for those teams.

Some more TPN swaps

Wait…..
So even though DAZN keeps touting 'only way to see games' if you are a subscriber to Choice (like my stepdad) if an agreement is reached he can see the Wolfies on 668?
I know the Wild are in dispute and a slate is on 668-1.

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