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HBO Zone in free preview?

I believe Dish shows this as channel 308 on their website but a quick check of the free HBO this AM didn't show this channel in my guide, is HBO Zone part of the free preview and if so what channel? Thanks.
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Bobby
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Let's see, I get something for free and I want something extra because i didn't get it free fast enough.... :rolleyes:

I see the originator of the post that got my dander up deleted his post. I think I'll leave my dander here just the same so he can remember it... ;)
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Bobby said:
Let's see, I get something for free and I want something extra because i didn't get it free fast enough.... :rolleyes:
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Actually, not something extra... I want what they promised.
4 days of all HBO channels.
If Zone only got turned on today, than I would expect an extra day of Zone at the end of the free preview.

If the supermarket can't deliver on a promotion they give you a raincheck... What happens if Dish can't deliver on an advertised free preview?
I would hope the answer would not be as ridiculous as "Well you got 3 days out of 4 for free, so that's good enough".
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... What happens if Dish can't deliver on an advertised free preview?
I would hope the answer would not be as ridiculous as "Well you got 3 days out of 4 for free, so that's good enough".
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You're actually serious? If they can't deliver on it then you don't get it. End of story. S--t happens. And yes, you got all but one channel for all the days, so that indeed is good enough.
And if we are going to be that picky, it was supposed be turned on starting on the 15th, no time given. So, 1/2 day less. Good chance it won't be turned off till around 2 or 3 AM, so 9 hours less.

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You're actually serious? If they can't deliver on it then you don't get it. End of story. S--t happens.
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Wow, I suppose you do not own or operate a business.

If I ever told a customer "Sh--t happens" after making him a promise, I would be standing in the unemployment line.

You actually think it is ok for a company to promise something and than say "too bad" ?

HBO Zone is a very small issue but what would you do if Dish raised their rates next month, after promising a 2 year rate freeze?

Nothing I suppose... take it like a man, right?

Not me.

I will let them raise your rates, while I call loyalty to cancel their ass...
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Dude, we are talking about something like 9 hours. They gave them to us, not in return for something we had to do. Your comparison is not valid to a supermarket advertising something for free if you come in. They could just as easily today, right now, say they had to cut the previews short and stop them..... technical reason, etc... If I had to sign up for something, or had to do something to get the preview, MAYBE I could see your point.
As I write this, I can think of times previews have started early. Should I have given something back to Dish for the extra free time I got?

You of course are free to drop Dish because you did not get one free channel for a few hours. If I were you, I would because if this upsets you, I can't imagine your anger when a channel you pay for is off air for 9 hours.
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And to add a little fire to the discussion. Dish didn't advertise that it was going to have HBO Zone in the free preview, just HBO. The added channels were just put in, unadvertised. This is actually not the usual case. Most of the time a free preview is just the main channel.

I will have to say that it says channel 300-309, but the main thing here is that HBO is pushing Game of Thrones as a way to gain subscribers.

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And I suspect they did not officially include HBO Zone, because it is only available in HD, so SD customers do not get it.
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Tampa8 said:
Dude, we are talking about something like 9 hours. They gave them to us, not in return for something we had to do. Your comparison is not valid to a supermarket advertising something for free if you come in. They could just as easily today, right now, say they had to cut the previews short and stop them..... technical reason, etc... If I had to sign up for something, or had to do something to get the preview, MAYBE I could see your point.
As I write this, I can think of times previews have started early. Should I have given something back to Dish for the extra free time I got?

You of course are free to drop Dish because you did not get one free channel for a few hours. If I were you, I would because if this upsets you, I can't imagine your anger when a channel you pay for is off air for 9 hours.
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Just so I am clear, if Dish raises rates next month after promising a 2 yr rate freeze... You would be ok with that (assuming they claim a technical reason for raising rates) ?
Given you did not have to sign up for anything or do something to get the rate freeze, I guess it is ok if they change their mind now?

I know I was pushing the Zone thing to the extreme (it does say channels 300 to 309 on the preview channel by the way, which includes Zone), but the point is: big corps need to respect their promises. That's all.

Maybe now we can all get back to watching Zone while we still have it :)
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panache70 said:
Wow, I suppose you do not own or operate a business.

If I ever told a customer "Sh--t happens" after making him a promise, I would be standing in the unemployment line.

You actually think it is ok for a company to promise something and than say "too bad" ?

HBO Zone is a very small issue but what would you do if Dish raised their rates next month, after promising a 2 year rate freeze?

Nothing I suppose... take it like a man, right?

Not me.

I will let them raise your rates, while I call loyalty to cancel their ass...
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I think you just need to call Dish and cancel since they don't meet or exceed your expectations. I'm sure Direct, Comcast, or even Time Warner might be able to meet those needs for you.
I'm sure Dish would be just fine with you going to one of them instead of clogging their phone lines with calls about a channel that they really didn't need to give you in the first place but were nice enough to offer a set of premium channels for the weekend...
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*sigh*
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Scott Greczkowski
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Song Name Game Part 3!

Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Bruce
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How things have changed

I was reading this article

thehill.com

Cable TV ‘cord-cutters’ became the majority in 2022

The steady decline of cable and broadcast television, and the rise of streaming services, reached a sort of inflection point over the past year. Last summer, for the first time, streaming ser…
thehill.com thehill.com

That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.

Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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And again, 15 months in a row, streaming wins-

Cable and Broadcast added together-36.4%

Streaming with a massive 49.6%, 13.2% higher than Broadcast/Streaming.

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Bruce said:
And again, 15 months in a row, streaming wins-

Cable and Broadcast added together-36.4%

Streaming with a massive 49.6%, 13.2% higher than Broadcast/Streaming.

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Your Still Thrilled about all this ?

These numbers will Never be accurate as many people use Both still ...

You have services like Hulu Live and You Tube TV that do, what you call Cable, but they ARE Streaming, so Which is is ?

Does it get counted 2x as both Streaming and Cable ?
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Jimbo said:
Your Still Thrilled about all this ?

These numbers will Never be accurate as many people use Both still ...
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Nobody is "happy" or "sad" about this. Simply posting data in an non-editorialized way has nothing to do with anyone's feelings.

The data on the streaming side is immensely accurate, I'm guessing to the millisecond. Plus most people likely have not turned off data sharing and thus they are grabbing a huge swath of data. Much more accurate than cable which relies on a smaller sample size and probably not to the second.

In either case, nobody is getting "double counted" because it's usage based. If I watch 100 minutes of content and 30 minutes is on Youtube and 20 minutes on Disney and 50 minutes on YTTV, it's going to show up as 30%, 20%, 50% slices of my personal pie respectively.
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Who does the Counting for Streaming ?

Neilson does the Broadcast/Cable ...
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Nielsen does. If you go into the settings of any of your streaming accounts, you can turn off the option to share to usage data with their third party measuring service - Nielsen.
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savarese04 said:
Nobody is "happy" or "sad" about this. Simply posting data in an non-editorialized way has nothing to do with anyone's feelings.

The data on the streaming side is immensely accurate, I'm guessing to the millisecond. Plus most people likely have not turned off data sharing and thus they are grabbing a huge swath of data. Much more accurate than cable which relies on a smaller sample size and probably not to the second.

In either case, nobody is getting "double counted" because it's usage based. If I watch 100 minutes of content and 30 minutes is on Youtube and 20 minutes on Disney and 50 minutes on YTTV, it's going to show up as 30%, 20%, 50% slices of my personal pie respectively.

Nielsen does. If you go into the settings of any of your streaming accounts, you can turn off the option to share to usage data with their third party measuring service - Nielsen.
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I have turned some off, not others ...
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View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/u4rACh-Tt5k?feature=share
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Funny thing is that as the screen size and pic quality increase, the quality of the programming has DEcreased.
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skipped the OLED Tv entirely?
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AI slop
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Claude's site is still up and running. New link required

I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

DishRetailer

America's Oldest Satellite Forum!
satelliteretailer.com satelliteretailer.com

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.
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If any of you know some of the guys from the board and you have their contact info, please reach out to them....many failed to update their contact info and some even had starband email addresses.
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dishstaller said:
I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

DishRetailer

America's Oldest Satellite Forum!
satelliteretailer.com satelliteretailer.com

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.
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Now I have to go check out what happened now. Lol!
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Went and looked, not too bad...

Just let people know the address is satelliteretailer.com as DishRetailer.COM is not working. :)
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USA Healthcare Costs are Ridiculous

:mad::mad::mad::mad:

Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs

My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.

Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.

After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.

I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.
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osu1991 said:
Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs
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Are you employed with no work insurance or that is what you are paying for your workplace insurance? Or is that through Healthcare.gov? Retired? Eligible for medicare?
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that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -
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b4pjoe said:
Are you employed with no work insurance or that is what you are paying for your workplace insurance? Or is that through Healthcare.gov? Retired? Eligible for medicare?
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Started my own business in 2006, been self employed for 20 years this year.
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vazhog said:
that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -
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Even sarcastically it's wrong. Undocumented immigrants already weren't eligible for federal Medicaid, so there's no one to "get off the rolls." The immigrant-related pieces are a small part of the ~$1 trillion. They cut the federal match for emergency care from 90% to the state's regular rate and end eligibility for some lawful immigrants like refugees. Most of the "savings" come from work requirements, more frequent eligibility checks, and provider tax limits, which hit citizens.

Either way, the cost doesn't disappear. It shifts to states, hospitals, and everyone else's premiums and will only serve to make issues like those raised in this thread worse.
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meStevo said:
Undocumented immigrants already weren't eligible for federal Medicaid, so there's no one to "get off the rolls."
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That's only part correct. Actually I had to look it up to make sure. There is NO Federal money going to Medicaid for illegals but there ARE some states that use State money to pay for Medicaid for illegals. Here's the list

    • California: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]
    • Colorado: Covers specific adult demographics (with upcoming budget caps in 2027). [1]
    • Illinois: Covers specific adult age brackets. [1]
    • New York: Covers specific adult demographics. [1]
    • Oregon: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]
    • Washington: Covers specific adult demographics. [1, 2]
    • Washington, D.C.: Provides adult coverage through the D.C. Health Care Alliance. [1, 2]
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That's only part correct. Actually I had to look it up to make sure. There is NO Federal money going to Medicaid for illegals but there ARE some states that use State money to pay for Medicaid for illegals. Here's the list

    • California: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]
    • Colorado: Covers specific adult demographics (with upcoming budget caps in 2027). [1]
    • Illinois: Covers specific adult age brackets. [1]
    • New York: Covers specific adult demographics. [1]
    • Oregon: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]
    • Washington: Covers specific adult demographics. [1, 2]
    • Washington, D.C.: Provides adult coverage through the D.C. Health Care Alliance. [1, 2]
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Fair point, but it's consistent with what I said: no federal Medicaid money goes to undocumented immigrants. Those programs are state-funded, so the federal ~$1T cut can't touch them. Whatever states decide to do with their own programs is a separate budget decision.
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The feds give money to the states for them to use - Cutting the fed funding only means the taxpayer savings will passed onto the states that need to make up the Fed dollars cut -See the list above for those states affected
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Rest in Peace Walter Koenig & Patrick Stewart

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What's For Lunch?

We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Auto Racing 2026

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Tried to watch the truck race but the stage c**p is why I don't watch NASCAR anymore…
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Today is the anniversary of Dan Wheldon's passing at Las Vegas in a dreadful crash that luckily didn't take more drivers' lives. I vaguely remember the crash, but I more strongly remember Paul Tracy trying to keep it together as he left the Medical Center knowing that Dan most likely wasn't going to.

The safety in these vehicles is beyond incomprehensible, especially relative to what it was 60 years ago, when dying wasn't unexpected. But it is still very dangerous. I always scoff at the prayer invocations, but never scoff at the risks these drivers take and the emergency workers out there who might need to pull short of a miracle to save a driver's life.
dfergie said:
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HBO Max has the live in car streaming without commercials, which provides an interesting take, but you are driving blind, knowing only what the team is telling the driver about what is happening on the track. The stages definitely ruin the NASCAR set up.
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NASCAR is an abject mess, but at least it has Kyle Larson. Guy had the lead on the green/white checker, fell back to 12th or the like, kept his cool, and charged back to win with room to spare at the line. And win very cleanly!

NASCAR needs to stop racing at Talladega. Especially if they are going for elderly Sunday drives at the track! Stage racing is real stupid, but NASCAR should consider one half point a second per group gap as a bonus.
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