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Dear folks,
Some years ago I purchased a DMS BSC621-2 LNBF at quite considerable cost due to high shipping fees and importation taxes. I felt bitterly disappointed because it just wouldn't do the job. DMS claimed that I were the only one complaining but on the internet I saw plenty of complaints. The shoddy quality of the scalar rings that looked like they were made out of overpainted tuna cans also seemed to confirm that I had spent my dire money buying junk.
However since I entered this forum where I found all kinds of positive remarks I decided to try and identify the problem. I removed the teflon sheet in order to create the simplest possible basis position: just try to get the LNBF to work correctly with linear signals.
Having positioned the LNBF fully correctly I soon found out that I couldn't go from V to H with the normal receiver settings. Also doing blind scans I would only get vertical channels, nothing horizontal. The 22 kHz setting switches automatically between both Ku bands (universal LNB) and the positions Committed 1 and Committed 2 switched properly between C and Ku. Committed 3 and 4 just reduced signals but had no function, and using Disecq 1.0/1.1 which introduces the Uncommitted options had no effect whatsoever.
However, two things remained difficult to understand:
1. If I manually switched from V to H with my receiver (which btw works fine on all other dishes) I did loose much of the vertical signal but it didn't give me horizontal ones. But there is signal, just not enough to identify anything that comes in that way.
so the next step was to try and adjust for horizontal channels while turning the LNBF within it's scalar rings but that didn't seem to help any.
2. When I did much more manipulating with the committed/uncommited and 22 kHz options, somehow it unexpectedly happened that the system reversed itself: all of a sudden there were no more vertical stations available on any satellite or band but all horizontally polarized signals came in loud and clear.
But same story here, once I had the horizontal ones, vertical was impossible to switch to, no matter what I did.
I experienced this a number of times over a 7 day period, convincing me that at least the LNBF was properly positioned within the scalar rings. It was my messing around with settings in the sat receiver that somehow turned the system from a perfect horizontal channel receiver to a perfect vertical channel receiver. The fact that both polarities were in principle capable of a good and stable reception if only I messed enough back and forth with the receiver proved that the LNBF itself was well placed in the dish.
I jotted down each move I made, each setting I changed, tima and again, but to no avail whatsoever. It wasn't like I could repeat the switchover in minutes, sometimes more than a day would pass before all of a sudden I had the opposite polarization. And once I was there it was near impossible to get back. Just weird...
Somehow it seams that there is something in that DMS product that refuses to make the switch from H to V or vice versa, making the whole thing pretty useless.
Is there anyone who recognizes these experiences, or who could offer suggestions for a solution? I use different Clarke Tech receivers and an AZbox Premium HD+ and all receivers get the same results so I don't think the fault is at the receiver's end. The high quality coaxial cable is especially made for sat reception and measures about 25 meters (probably around 82 feet or so) but I doubt that that could be a factor.
Is this LNBF just ready for the trash heap or....?
Some years ago I purchased a DMS BSC621-2 LNBF at quite considerable cost due to high shipping fees and importation taxes. I felt bitterly disappointed because it just wouldn't do the job. DMS claimed that I were the only one complaining but on the internet I saw plenty of complaints. The shoddy quality of the scalar rings that looked like they were made out of overpainted tuna cans also seemed to confirm that I had spent my dire money buying junk.
However since I entered this forum where I found all kinds of positive remarks I decided to try and identify the problem. I removed the teflon sheet in order to create the simplest possible basis position: just try to get the LNBF to work correctly with linear signals.
Having positioned the LNBF fully correctly I soon found out that I couldn't go from V to H with the normal receiver settings. Also doing blind scans I would only get vertical channels, nothing horizontal. The 22 kHz setting switches automatically between both Ku bands (universal LNB) and the positions Committed 1 and Committed 2 switched properly between C and Ku. Committed 3 and 4 just reduced signals but had no function, and using Disecq 1.0/1.1 which introduces the Uncommitted options had no effect whatsoever.
However, two things remained difficult to understand:
1. If I manually switched from V to H with my receiver (which btw works fine on all other dishes) I did loose much of the vertical signal but it didn't give me horizontal ones. But there is signal, just not enough to identify anything that comes in that way.
so the next step was to try and adjust for horizontal channels while turning the LNBF within it's scalar rings but that didn't seem to help any.
2. When I did much more manipulating with the committed/uncommited and 22 kHz options, somehow it unexpectedly happened that the system reversed itself: all of a sudden there were no more vertical stations available on any satellite or band but all horizontally polarized signals came in loud and clear.
But same story here, once I had the horizontal ones, vertical was impossible to switch to, no matter what I did.
I experienced this a number of times over a 7 day period, convincing me that at least the LNBF was properly positioned within the scalar rings. It was my messing around with settings in the sat receiver that somehow turned the system from a perfect horizontal channel receiver to a perfect vertical channel receiver. The fact that both polarities were in principle capable of a good and stable reception if only I messed enough back and forth with the receiver proved that the LNBF itself was well placed in the dish.
I jotted down each move I made, each setting I changed, tima and again, but to no avail whatsoever. It wasn't like I could repeat the switchover in minutes, sometimes more than a day would pass before all of a sudden I had the opposite polarization. And once I was there it was near impossible to get back. Just weird...
Somehow it seams that there is something in that DMS product that refuses to make the switch from H to V or vice versa, making the whole thing pretty useless.
Is there anyone who recognizes these experiences, or who could offer suggestions for a solution? I use different Clarke Tech receivers and an AZbox Premium HD+ and all receivers get the same results so I don't think the fault is at the receiver's end. The high quality coaxial cable is especially made for sat reception and measures about 25 meters (probably around 82 feet or so) but I doubt that that could be a factor.
Is this LNBF just ready for the trash heap or....?
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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On Tuesday, I recorded the first episodes of the new season's NCIS shows on CBS (Dish provided, not OTA). The new New York series and Origins will both do Auto Skip, but the original, now season 24 does not. What's stranger, when I do a search for NCIS, Origins and New York show the current recording and the next episode it will record, but the original show only shows the current recording and some other channel showing the very first episode of season one. It makes no sense. When I set up the timers, I was able to use search for Origins and New York, but for the original, I had to scroll ahead in the guide until last Tuesday when the show was airing. Then set the timer from there. You can see its timer type is DVR where the other two are Seek. What am I missing?
Thanks!
Thanks!
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I created this thread on the original Edgecutter Cutting Edge Forums site. It's simply a place for those to review the latest software available for those using Windows 10 and Windows 11. To date it has received 112,559 views. I have been asked by staff to continue this thread here.
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To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything.
For niche use cases, yes I agree. Kali for ethical hacking and security testing, and running a Cacti server for network monitoring are the two things I have experience in. Plus thousands and thousands of other things, but for every day use I just can't see it. The owner of the GMRS repeater that I pay to access is changing the Tx DPL tones tomorrow, while Chirp is available on Linux, the software to program my MXT500 is not.To each there own but I've found that Windows can't do much more than Linux can. Can't have everything.
I run Fedora and Ubuntu in VMWare, honestly I don't care much for the UI of either of them and I don't feel like spending days/weeks to customize the UI to make it look Windows-like when I could just use Windows. The cartoonish dock at the bottom of the screen reminds me of Apple products.
As I said above, and, FWIW, I run Win11 Pro and Arch on separate 250 GB NVME drives, using F8 to select which I boot to, with a 1TB SSD for storage, accessible to both OSs and a third formatted Nvme I want to use to learn Kali. It was much faster to setup Arch than it was to strip down Windows. Windows still takes much longer to boot.
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Hard getting used to the new younger Gibbs, Mark Harmons son had the right look but I understand he didn't want the role.
Still I'm enjoying, pretty good job with Franks.
Still I'm enjoying, pretty good job with Franks.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Wasn't exactly sure where to post this. Just had a customer come in inquiring about internet. He has HughesNet and had heard good things about mine. He asked if we provided email addresses and it kinda caught me off guard. I said he should be able to keep whatever email he had been using....my sister in law is still using a BellSouth email addy and they haven't been around here for many years. He said he had gotten a letter from HughesNet stating that they had until Nov 16th to save, move, forward, whatever, their Hughesnet emails because they would lose them after that date.
I have never heard of a company simply mass-deleting email accounts (the customer still has his HughesNet service). From what I understand, in the past, the company who was ditching their email service simply sold the customer base to a company like Google.
Anyone else getting this letter. He said he would show it to me tomorrow when I go out there and set up his internet.
I have never heard of a company simply mass-deleting email accounts (the customer still has his HughesNet service). From what I understand, in the past, the company who was ditching their email service simply sold the customer base to a company like Google.
Anyone else getting this letter. He said he would show it to me tomorrow when I go out there and set up his internet.
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Still the same number of years, just more Sunsets…Wouldn't we then die of old age sooner?
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Starting a thread klang !
After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.
After an amazing first 2 seasons and an 8 episode 3rd season still coming this year, season 4 has now been greenlit.
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One episode into season 4 that dropped today...
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This thread is a place to discuss the 4K events that appear on channel 540. We are getting, at this point, one college football game a week. Let's hope there is more coming.
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Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.
I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.
edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.
As I recall you have the Flex package. Do you sub to multisport? -02 is FS1 and -03 is ESPN. -01 is Fox so you would get that if you sub to locals.Hmmm, I'm not seeing anything like those events in our Hopper 3 guide for tonight or Saturday.
I went into the Tools menu and requested a Guide Update. I'll try looking at it after the update completes.
edit — I now have the 148-01 4KFox events for Saturday, but not anything for 148-02 or 148-03 which don't even show as available channels. I do have 148-04 4KUSA.