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DISH Network Reports First Quarter 2011 Financial Results

ENGLEWOOD, Colo., May 2, 2011 /PRNewswire/ -- DISH Network Corporation (NASDAQ: DISH) today reported total revenue of $3.22 billion for the quarter ended March 31, 2011, a 5.5 percent increase compared with $3.06 billion for the corresponding period in 2010.

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Net income attributable to common shareholders totaled $549 million for the quarter ended March 31, 2011, compared with $231 million during the corresponding period in 2010. Diluted earnings per share were $1.22 for the quarter ended March 31, 2011, compared with $0.52 during the corresponding period in 2010.

DISH Network gained approximately 58,000 net subscribers during the quarter ended March 31, 2011, ending the quarter with approximately 14.191 million subscribers.

Detailed financial data and other information are available in DISH Network's Form 10-Q for the quarterly period ended March 31, 2011, filed today with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

DISH Network will host its first quarter 2011 financial results conference call today at noon ET. The dial-in number is (800) 616-6729.
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goaliebob99
I dont think so.. Their net growth has been much slower than directv.
Juan
I dont think so.. Their net growth has been much slower than directv.
subtract off the latin American growth to get a better picture of D*
MikeD-C05
subtract off the latin American growth to get a better picture of D*

How many subs did DIRECTV add minus the latin American growth?
navychop
I recall reading an article which stated that, very roughly, one third of Americans follow sports regularly, one third casually, and one third not at all.

At work, I'd say over half follow sports. My wife and I, and my in-laws: NONE follow sports at all.

Curling, anyone?
TG2
TG2
I recall reading an article which stated that, very roughly, one third of Americans follow sports regularly, one third casually, and one third not at all.

At work, I'd say over half follow sports. My wife and I, and my in-laws: NONE follow sports at all.
So your people at work already show lack of interest if only 50% of them ... since 1/3 follow regularly, 1/3 follow casually that would be 66.67% ... following sports in some capacity ... in my location (3 primary employees) it was exactly 2/3's follow, 1/3rd not following (me, the tech).


I've seen some here and other places indicating surprise that Dish grew profits and subs. Here's my post from another forum that gives my opinion:

Why surprised? Dish is selling a solid product for a competitive price. Their HDDVRs are rock solid, they have a good channel lineup available and their customer service is easier to deal with more often than not.
and of course the main thing forgotten .. "rock solid for you" I've hated my 722k's since the moment I've had them. I've hated the inability to use the SlingAdapter for anything more than remote TV viewing.. ie.. skip forward/back change channels change from one dvr'd item to another .... it would have been cheaper, less frustrating, and overall better for me had I pulled out my diplexers, and run from coax output to my home office into a 27 inch tube TV rather than use my secondary PC Monitor and sling for remote inhouse watching.

And that's if you don't count the people who have problems getting SlingAdapter and 922 sling loadeds to work. And thats also if you discount the steady flow of "deleted DVR items" from some glitch ... etc.. that people report. If you take power, hard drive failure, and weather out of the equation, every DVR should perform 100% perfectly, 100% of the time.

is their hardware good? maybe.. is it great? absolutely not. is it rock solid? only if you mean as a paper weight.
DodgerKing
How many subs did DIRECTV add minus the latin American growth?
100k more than Dish

Including Latin American Subs, DirecTV gained a total of 611,000
lparsons21
and of course the main thing forgotten .. "rock solid for you" I've hated my 722k's since the moment I've had them. I've hated the inability to use the SlingAdapter for anything more than remote TV viewing.. ie.. skip forward/back change channels change from one dvr'd item to another .... it would have been cheaper, less frustrating, and overall better for me had I pulled out my diplexers, and run from coax output to my home office into a 27 inch tube TV rather than use my secondary PC Monitor and sling for remote inhouse watching.

And that's if you don't count the people who have problems getting SlingAdapter and 922 sling loadeds to work. And thats also if you discount the steady flow of "deleted DVR items" from some glitch ... etc.. that people report. If you take power, hard drive failure, and weather out of the equation, every DVR should perform 100% perfectly, 100% of the time.

is their hardware good? maybe.. is it great? absolutely not. is it rock solid? only if you mean as a paper weight.

YMMV, of course. But the vast majority don't have all those issues if you look at posts here and at DBSTalk. For me, I've never had any real issues that were more than a very seldom occurring thing. And that is on many different HDDVRs over the years. Both my 722k and 612 have been all but totally trouble-free, and the older 8xx something I had a number of years ago worked flawlessly with the exception of the hinky HDMI connector.

But all things are in comparison, aren't they? With D*, I had good service, but it took 4 HR20's and then finally changed to an HR21 to get it right on the initial install. Then a couple of their equipment-slowing-upgrades wiped out all my recordings. But still I would have classed them as pretty darned good. Overall, after the initial mess, they operated as advertised. I left D* because of their dog-slow operation and now that they are well behind E* in national HD, I'm glad to say that I made the right move for my viewing needs.

I will admit to not having a 922 as I never thought much of it and still don't. Sling doesn't interest me at all, but reading here and many other places, it seems that most are not having major glitches with it, but some have minor issues.
harshness
100k more than Dish

Including Latin American Subs, DirecTV gained a total of 611,000
To answer the question asked (as opposed to everything but), DIRECTV added 184,000 customers in 2011Q1.

Your math sucks as DIRECTV added 126,000 more customers than DISH did over the same period.
J
YMMV, of course. But the vast majority don't have all those issues if you look at posts here and at DBSTalk. For me, I've never had any real issues that were more than a very seldom occurring thing. And that is on many different HDDVRs over the years. Both my 722k and 612 have been all but totally trouble-free, and the older 8xx something I had a number of years ago worked flawlessly with the exception of the hinky HDMI connector.

But all things are in comparison, aren't they? With D*, I had good service, but it took 4 HR20's and then finally changed to an HR21 to get it right on the initial install. Then a couple of their equipment-slowing-upgrades wiped out all my recordings. But still I would have classed them as pretty darned good. Overall, after the initial mess, they operated as advertised. I left D* because of their dog-slow operation and now that they are well behind E* in national HD, I'm glad to say that I made the right move for my viewing needs.

I will admit to not having a 922 as I never thought much of it and still don't. Sling doesn't interest me at all, but reading here and many other places, it seems that most are not having major glitches with it, but some have minor issues.

My wants were I wanted to have a HDDVR without the HD package.I could not do that with DirecTV,I can with Dish Network.:)

Now with my latest upgrade going from the 625,to the 622, to the 722k/wMT2(Jan.2011) I only added the HD for Life because I could do both contracts at the same time so it made sense for me even though I'm SD only.And if for some reason I decide to get an HDTV, I'm HD picture ready.;):D

Like I have said before Dish Network is the most versatile service I have ever used to.:D
DodgerKing
To answer the question asked (as opposed to everything but), DIRECTV added 184,000 customers in 2011Q1.

Your math sucks as DIRECTV added 126,000 more customers than DISH did over the same period.
It was a generalization. ;)

I woke up read the DirecTV report on a post that was equivalent to 30 pages :p and just glanced to see that they had a net gain in the 100k's. I then looked at the Dish thread and noticed the question and that Dish had a net gain in the 80k's. Without reading the exact numbers because I was eating breakfast and getting ready for work at the time I just made a general post of a round about number.

-The following is said with a light Sarcastic Tone-

I was simply answering a question, but for some reason it appeared to offend you???

Next time I will be sure to check with you to make sure my posts are up to your standards before I post them. ;)
MikeD-C05
100k more than Dish

Including Latin American Subs, DirecTV gained a total of 611,000

Thanks for the update. I was wondering.
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I Can Hear Music - The Beach Boys
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Boom Boom ( Out Go The Lights ) - Pat Travers
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Palisades Park - Freddy "Boom Boom" Cannon
RaiderPower
Cherry Hill Park - Billy Joe Royal
long_time_Dish
Lakeside Park - Rush
Bruce
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I was reading this article


That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.


Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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Bruce
And again, 15 months in a row, streaming wins-

Cable and Broadcast added together-36.4%

Streaming with a massive 49.6%, 13.2% higher than Broadcast/Streaming.

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Jimbo
And again, 15 months in a row, streaming wins-

Cable and Broadcast added together-36.4%

Streaming with a massive 49.6%, 13.2% higher than Broadcast/Streaming.

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Your Still Thrilled about all this ?

These numbers will Never be accurate as many people use Both still ...

You have services like Hulu Live and You Tube TV that do, what you call Cable, but they ARE Streaming, so Which is is ?

Does it get counted 2x as both Streaming and Cable ?
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Your Still Thrilled about all this ?

These numbers will Never be accurate as many people use Both still ...
Nobody is "happy" or "sad" about this. Simply posting data in an non-editorialized way has nothing to do with anyone's feelings.

The data on the streaming side is immensely accurate, I'm guessing to the millisecond. Plus most people likely have not turned off data sharing and thus they are grabbing a huge swath of data. Much more accurate than cable which relies on a smaller sample size and probably not to the second.

In either case, nobody is getting "double counted" because it's usage based. If I watch 100 minutes of content and 30 minutes is on Youtube and 20 minutes on Disney and 50 minutes on YTTV, it's going to show up as 30%, 20%, 50% slices of my personal pie respectively.
Q.
Who does the Counting for Streaming ?

Neilson does the Broadcast/Cable ...
Nielsen does. If you go into the settings of any of your streaming accounts, you can turn off the option to share to usage data with their third party measuring service - Nielsen.
Jimbo
Nobody is "happy" or "sad" about this. Simply posting data in an non-editorialized way has nothing to do with anyone's feelings.

The data on the streaming side is immensely accurate, I'm guessing to the millisecond. Plus most people likely have not turned off data sharing and thus they are grabbing a huge swath of data. Much more accurate than cable which relies on a smaller sample size and probably not to the second.

In either case, nobody is getting "double counted" because it's usage based. If I watch 100 minutes of content and 30 minutes is on Youtube and 20 minutes on Disney and 50 minutes on YTTV, it's going to show up as 30%, 20%, 50% slices of my personal pie respectively.

Nielsen does. If you go into the settings of any of your streaming accounts, you can turn off the option to share to usage data with their third party measuring service - Nielsen.
I have turned some off, not others ...
dishstaller

Funny thing is that as the screen size and pic quality increase, the quality of the programming has DEcreased.
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dishdude
skipped the OLED Tv entirely?

AI slop
dishstaller
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.
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dishstaller
If any of you know some of the guys from the board and you have their contact info, please reach out to them....many failed to update their contact info and some even had starband email addresses.
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Scott Greczkowski
I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.
Now I have to go check out what happened now. Lol!
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Scott Greczkowski
Went and looked, not too bad...

Just let people know the address is satelliteretailer.com as DishRetailer.COM is not working. :)
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osu1991
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:mad::mad::mad::mad:

Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs

My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.

Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.

After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.

I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.
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b4pjoe
Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs
Are you employed with no work insurance or that is what you are paying for your workplace insurance? Or is that through Healthcare.gov? Retired? Eligible for medicare?
vazhog
that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -
osu1991
Are you employed with no work insurance or that is what you are paying for your workplace insurance? Or is that through Healthcare.gov? Retired? Eligible for medicare?
Started my own business in 2006, been self employed for 20 years this year.
meStevo
that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -

Even sarcastically it's wrong. Undocumented immigrants already weren't eligible for federal Medicaid, so there's no one to "get off the rolls." The immigrant-related pieces are a small part of the ~$1 trillion. They cut the federal match for emergency care from 90% to the state's regular rate and end eligibility for some lawful immigrants like refugees. Most of the "savings" come from work requirements, more frequent eligibility checks, and provider tax limits, which hit citizens.

Either way, the cost doesn't disappear. It shifts to states, hospitals, and everyone else's premiums and will only serve to make issues like those raised in this thread worse.
dishstaller
Undocumented immigrants already weren't eligible for federal Medicaid, so there's no one to "get off the rolls."
That's only part correct. Actually I had to look it up to make sure. There is NO Federal money going to Medicaid for illegals but there ARE some states that use State money to pay for Medicaid for illegals. Here's the list

    • California: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]
    • Colorado: Covers specific adult demographics (with upcoming budget caps in 2027). [1]
    • Illinois: Covers specific adult age brackets. [1]
    • New York: Covers specific adult demographics. [1]
    • Oregon: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]
    • Washington: Covers specific adult demographics. [1, 2]
    • Washington, D.C.: Provides adult coverage through the D.C. Health Care Alliance. [1, 2]
meStevo
That's only part correct. Actually I had to look it up to make sure. There is NO Federal money going to Medicaid for illegals but there ARE some states that use State money to pay for Medicaid for illegals. Here's the list

    • California: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]
    • Colorado: Covers specific adult demographics (with upcoming budget caps in 2027). [1]
    • Illinois: Covers specific adult age brackets. [1]
    • New York: Covers specific adult demographics. [1]
    • Oregon: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]
    • Washington: Covers specific adult demographics. [1, 2]
    • Washington, D.C.: Provides adult coverage through the D.C. Health Care Alliance. [1, 2]

Fair point, but it's consistent with what I said: no federal Medicaid money goes to undocumented immigrants. Those programs are state-funded, so the federal ~$1T cut can't touch them. Whatever states decide to do with their own programs is a separate budget decision.
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vazhog
The feds give money to the states for them to use - Cutting the fed funding only means the taxpayer savings will passed onto the states that need to make up the Fed dollars cut -See the list above for those states affected
dfergie
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We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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dfergie
Chili dog bowl, water… (homemade chili)
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Leftover wanton soup and pork fried rice. Water.
dfergie
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Sweet tea…
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Tuna salad sandwich on toasted honey whole wheat bread with a handful of kettle chips. Water.
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Breakfast for lunch. Crispy corned beef hash, home fries, two over easy eggs and sourdough toast.

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Weird F1 weekend is already over with a Saturday race.
dfergie
Tried to watch the truck race but the stage c**p is why I don't watch NASCAR anymore…
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Today is the anniversary of Dan Wheldon's passing at Las Vegas in a dreadful crash that luckily didn't take more drivers' lives. I vaguely remember the crash, but I more strongly remember Paul Tracy trying to keep it together as he left the Medical Center knowing that Dan most likely wasn't going to.

The safety in these vehicles is beyond incomprehensible, especially relative to what it was 60 years ago, when dying wasn't unexpected. But it is still very dangerous. I always scoff at the prayer invocations, but never scoff at the risks these drivers take and the emergency workers out there who might need to pull short of a miracle to save a driver's life.
Tried to watch the truck race but the stage c**p is why I don't watch NASCAR anymore…
HBO Max has the live in car streaming without commercials, which provides an interesting take, but you are driving blind, knowing only what the team is telling the driver about what is happening on the track. The stages definitely ruin the NASCAR set up.
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NASCAR is an abject mess, but at least it has Kyle Larson. Guy had the lead on the green/white checker, fell back to 12th or the like, kept his cool, and charged back to win with room to spare at the line. And win very cleanly!

NASCAR needs to stop racing at Talladega. Especially if they are going for elderly Sunday drives at the track! Stage racing is real stupid, but NASCAR should consider one half point a second per group gap as a bonus.