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Last reply Jun 26, 2011 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

have a legacy dish 500 quad, how to point to sat 129 north of Seattle

I have a legacy dish 500 quad. How to point to sat 129 north of Seattle .
area code is 98226 Bellingham.
Using a Vip 622 and two 508 receivers. Finally got a new TV so the HD channels on 129 are now interesting. ;-}
Have a spare dish 300/ Dual LNB . Can the signals be combined with one or two of the older switches ? The 508's have no need for Sat 129.
The dish 500 quad I have is the older version but does have the old switch build in.
ie there is an even older version that required an external switch.

My last call to Dish was a mess ...wanted $100 for a call out ...and to recommit us to a 2 year contract. nope.

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empiretc

Jun 15, 2011

Point the dish 300 at 129 then combine them with sw21 switches. We used 2 legacy quads feeding 3 receivers in this manner before switching to dp technology. If you are using a 508 to aim, you will need to use transponder 8 as it is the only one the older receiver will see.

Teehar

Jun 15, 2011

empiretc said:
Point the dish 300 at 129 then combine them with sw21 switches. We used 2 legacy quads feeding 3 receivers in this manner before switching to dp technology. If you are using a 508 to aim, you will need to use transponder 8 as it is the only one the older receiver will see.

I wouldn't use the 508 personally,last time I used a legacy to hit 129 transponder 21 was the only one it could see.

SuperTech

Jun 16, 2011

Thank you much for your very useful comments.
I'm going to grab a couple of sw21 and give it a shot this weekend.
Two SW21 seem to be $10 landed via ebay. I'll give the two local SAT Dealers a call to see what they can do.
They might have some dusty switches hiding under a desk . ;-}

3HaloODST

Jun 16, 2011

Teehar said:
I wouldn't use the 508 personally,last time I used a legacy to hit 129 transponder 21 was the only one it could see.

Yes. TP 21 is currently the only CONUS QPSK TP available. All others including TP 8 are spotbeams.

SuperTech

Jun 25, 2011

Ideas ?

Managed to point legacy dual 300 dish to Sat 129 .
Vip 622 now sees Sat 129.
But ...it no longer sees 119 . Only 110 and 129

As per summary page
Sat input 1
port 1 2
Sat 129 110
ok ok

Switch Sw42

sat input 2 is the same.

Switch bought via ebay was a SW 21 X

see here :
SW21X SATELLITE SWITCH SW21 LNB F/ DISH NETWORK BELL VU | eBay

What is SW21X switch?
SW21X can be used by itself exactly like a regular SW21 switch, plus it can be used in combination with another SW21 to get the third satellite input.

That is: SW21X switch can work like a SW21 switch. Besides, it can also work for cascading switches, i.e. can be used in combination with other switches.

What is a switch cascading?
Switch cascading is connecting more than one switch together in series after the dish to achieve more outputs than one switch can provide. You can connect this switch in series with extra SW21 switch. Please check the diagram for details.

Tried various check switch methods and no change seen.

Ideas ?

Teehar

Jun 26, 2011

SuperTech said:
Managed to point legacy dual 300 dish to Sat 129 .
Vip 622 now sees Sat 129.
But ...it no longer sees 119 . Only 110 and 129

As per summary page
Sat input 1
port 1 2
Sat 129 110
ok ok

Switch Sw42

sat input 2 is the same.

Switch bought via ebay was a SW 21 X

see here :
SW21X SATELLITE SWITCH SW21 LNB F/ DISH NETWORK BELL VU | eBay

What is SW21X switch?
SW21X can be used by itself exactly like a regular SW21 switch, plus it can be used in combination with another SW21 to get the third satellite input.

That is: SW21X switch can work like a SW21 switch. Besides, it can also work for cascading switches, i.e. can be used in combination with other switches.

What is a switch cascading?
Switch cascading is connecting more than one switch together in series after the dish to achieve more outputs than one switch can provide. You can connect this switch in series with extra SW21 switch. Please check the diagram for details.

Tried various check switch methods and no change seen.

Ideas ?

That is a generic switch.It was made for fta receivers.You need to get original disnetwork switches.

New original Dish Network SW21 on eBay!

SuperTech

Jun 26, 2011

Teehar said:
That is a generic switch.It was made for fta receivers.You need to get original disnetwork switches.

"That is a generic switch.It was made for fta receivers.You need to get original disnetwork switches."

Sheeesh now I hear .

I phoned dish early this morning.
They had an opening this afternoon. Tech showed up at 5 , of course had no SW21 but did have a 1000.4 dish.
So he put that up.

Only weird part, these guys like to cut every connector that they find . It's a bit surreal.
I ended up with one less cable running into the house which was a bit annoying but it all happened so fast.
Anyway it works .D
Now to see what dish does in terms of charges or commitments ..there were not supposed to be any!

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What's For Lunch?

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Last reply Today at 12:33 PM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

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reubenray

Last reply Today at 10:36 AM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Laptop Shutting Off When On Battery?

Lately my eight year old Dell laptop has been shutting off even when I have a full battery. I have had to keep it plugged up all the time to keep this from happening. Any idea what is causing this? I replaced the battery about three years ago.

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arlo

Today at 10:09 AM

A recalibration might be needed. Even if it shows full, the individual cells may have become unbalaced. And the BMS chip in the battery reports false information to the pc.
Try this. Start it up in the bios/uefi and leave it there until the battery dies and it shuts off.
It might just keep running longer than in Windows. Or run for a short while and shut off.
If it's the first case. Probably just needs a balancing. If the latter, the pack might just be dead.
Not throwing stones but perhaps just a cheaply constructed battery with substandard cells. Could be.

Patience. Keep restarting it in bios/uefi until it won't fire up anymore.
Then plug the charger in and let it complete a full charge. And see what happens. If it's better.
Do the same thing one more time. Run it until it dies dead-dead. Then just let it charge, pc shut off.
When charged, it might be better. It might not be.

There are bench jigs that read the actual BMS and override it to let a tech manually monitor and charge the separate packs. They can also reset any "time bombs" in it that cause an otherwise good pack to show bad.
Maybe Santa will be good to me some year.

You might just need a new battery. Maybe the PC power management chip is going. A Dell common thing.
Leaving a laptop plugged in with a full battery is known to reduce the life. Asus for one recommends that you don't leave the charger plugged in all of the time even when shut down. And setting Windows to charge the battery to 85% instead of 100% increases life.
That's all I got.

dishstaller

Today at 10:36 AM

arlo said:
That's all I got.

That was quite enough....I definitely learned something from your post. Thanks

TRG

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Last reply Today at 10:27 AM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Starlink Router question

I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

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b4pjoe

Saturday at 2:12 PM

TRG said:
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.

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HipKat

Saturday at 11:07 PM

TRG said:
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

They are not. Your best bet is to set up a third-party router, attached to the Starlink for your server, that you can get into, like a Linksys, etc

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Foxbat

Sunday at 12:44 AM

TRG said:
…it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

The Starlink V5 Install Kit I just got comes with the Mini Router. It is pretty limited in what it can do. For example, it can provide only one IP subnet at a time, no Guest Network, but it does support the pass-thru to a third-party Router. You can also split the Wi-Fi into separate 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz SSIDs to help some IoT devices that don't support 5 GHz bands to work.

The larger Starlink Router that still comes with the V4 Kit does support a Guest Network with separate IPv4 Subnet, but it's $120 from Starlink. And it still won't do DHCP Reservations.

harshness

Sunday at 11:46 AM

If you can restrict the DHCP address space to assign addresses to one end of the subnet (i.e. x.x.x.50+), you can manually assign the IP address on pretty much any operating system. This is a default behavior on several popular routers. As the Router Mini only supports 235 devices, I expect that's already done.

Another option is to use a router that supports PoE to power the antenna. This article discusses that option (under PoE Power heading):

Starlink V5 Is Here: What RVers Need to Know

Overview of the new Starlink V5 model along with comparison to the previous V4 model along with a recommended setup for mobile internet users.

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Foxbat

Today at 10:27 AM

Now that I've had the v5 kit with the Mini Router, it's not as bad as I first thought. Yes, no DHCP reservations, but you can set up multiple SSIDs that have separate IPv4 subnets, and like the big brother, you can select from 192.168.x.0/24 or 10.x.0.0/16 (where "x" is 1-4).

You can also split a subnet and have different SSIDs for the 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz channels to handle some IoT devices. I haven't discovered what subnet the 2nd NIC on the router assigns, I'm guessing it's the first subnet.

dishstaller

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Last reply Today at 10:27 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

I think we could all use a laugh - Rodney Dangerfield on Carson

Good...simple humor. Enjoy

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E92AtfTLge4

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Jimbo

Today at 12:37 AM

Not Rodney, but a laugh ...

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dishstaller

Today at 10:27 AM

Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.

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Last reply Today at 10:17 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

At least 64 dead in Spanish passenger train collision

Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

At Least 64 Dead After Two High-Speed Trains Collide In Spain | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 11:24 AM

dishstaller said:
Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

At Least 64 Dead After Two High-Speed Trains Collide In Spain | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.

dishstaller

Today at 10:17 AM

Thought this article might be of interest to some of you who might travel via train.

The safest seat to sit on in a train

Safety experts have shared top tips on train safety after a fatal railway crash in Spain killed 69 people, including where the safest place is in an emergency.

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