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cbuddy

Last reply Jul 27, 2011 · posted in FTA Receiver / Equipment Support

AZBox Premium +; help w/ scan ?

Just got an AZBox Premium + going, and am having trouble getting most transponders on the birds I've scanned.

Set up is 10 ft. BUD; Chaparral Corotor II + feedhorn; Norsat 8115 C band & 4106A LNB's; analog receiver used to aim dish & drive TP servo; currently only the C band coax is feeding AZBox, then looped thru analog box to view position numbers on a second monitor.

Sample issue - on Galaxy 16 (99 ' W), I tweaked position & skew 'til Quality on one TP was 95 - 100% - did blind scan for both vertical and horizontal POLS, and got only a few TP's - clear services (e.g. GDMX - about twenty of them) have perfect clarity on all SD & HD signals at 3740 MHz & 3820 MHz (DVB-S2; DVB-S respectively), however, there are only about 11 of the 30+ TP's listed on Lyngsat for that bird and most show "No Signal" for those services listed as in the clear; I also tried doing TP scan w/ same result; Tried editing in a TP > cannot get added TP to stay, as after being saved it does not show up as an available TP in Advanced Scan list.

Any help will be GREATLY appreciated. ::smiley

BTW - this box does get amazing video even on my SD TV w/ clarity rivaling stuff played on our DVD player, and has some VERY cool features.

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Diamond Jim

Jul 24, 2011

I have two channels at TP 3800. I entered one at 3798 and the other at 3802. It took both of them with no problem.

Valasante

Jul 24, 2011

I noticed that if the difference between the last digit on the existing TP and the one to be added is more than three then the new one will be added otherwise it will ignore it. Also notice that when there are differnces of +-2 between the reported TP figures by Kingof sat, Flysat and others, it still works.

cbuddy

Jul 25, 2011

Thanks to everyonefor all the help.

I guess I have an "Americanized" box, as it seems to save and use any new TP's I edit in or get from a scan, even after a reboot.

I did get a great tip on working around TP's that are very similar - and particularly for when you don't have many working TP's, like when getting started on a bird
1. If you use this, DO NOT DELETE ALL OF THE TP'S FROM A SATELLITE !!! This has already been said by Radar and others, thankfully, but if you missed it, BEWARE ! Apparently, the AZBox software writers abhor a vacuum.
2. Go to settings; then to where you can scan a bird, etc.
3. Go to Edit SAT/TP
4. pick one TP with a Freq. you will not need on that bird (one that is not in the range of TP's listed on SatBeams or another reliable resource
5. Delete every other TP Freq. EXCEPT ONE
6. Blind scan for each polarity in turn (or not if you have a receiver > dish set up that switches polarity for you - I don't) - you can save a lot of time by restricting each scan to one polarity in the Blind Scan "Polarization" option; and more time by restricting the lowest and highest Freq's. to be scanned

I tried this on Ku band with a bird that had yielded only a few new TP's and 16 services (only two were viewable) with a full blind scan on both Pols. Using the method above, I got over twenty five TP's and and 167 services, mostly with viewable content. Comparing listed TP's to those already in the AZBox I saw why. Nearly every TP listed on SatBeams was very close to one already stored in the STB, and many in the STB memory were no where near anything listed for the bird on SatBeams. But if you already have a bunch of working services and don't want to lose them, it seems you would have to go through the entire set of TP's and work through each conflict individually. And then there is the issue of just how good a blind scan will be with conditions and all - I still had to go through and edit in a few TP's after the blind scan to get a few desired services.

stargaze

Jul 25, 2011

cbuddy said:
Thanks to everyonefor all the help.

I guess I have an "Americanized" box, as it seems to save and use any new TP's I edit in or get from a scan, even after a reboot.

I did get a great tip on working around TP's that are very similar - and particularly for when you don't have many working TP's, like when getting started on a bird
1. If you use this, DO NOT DELETE ALL OF THE TP'S FROM A SATELLITE !!! .

Well maybe not quite.
first if you have not already done so (in the sticky area above) download the Az Users Guide and the Question & Answer Guide which are 2 different pdf files that answer most of the questions on the az receiver.
To have a North Americanized receiver that means you have only the Western Satellites in the box.

You are correct in that you never delete every TP from a satellite. Always leave one in there until you scan in one proper channel then get rid of the one that was left over from before. This gives you a clean slate and yes you will find you can scan in more channels then before as now your receiver is cleaned out of the old stuff and can scan in channels based on your setup.

To North Americanize your receiver on your own it can take several hours.
If you follow the links in the Az Users Guide there is a place where you can download a zipped file which contains a North Americanized Sat/channel list which will save you the time. You will then have to set your DiSEqC settings and there is a link that provides you with some basic programs that work with the AzBox so you can edit channels and also a program called ACC which is a great program that sends the files to your Azbox that also sets the sat list in your backup directory as well so you have less chance of having your AzBox channel list becoming corrupted.
All this is done so you can spend more time watching FTA then fiddling at every turn with the AzBox.

The newer firmware 0.9.5308 has come a long way in getting rid of old outdated information in the Satellite/Channel list and for most people it should suit them fine. However, I have found here that deleting all but 1 tp was again necessary as our system setups are not all the same.

Anyone using a firmware before 0.9.5308 will eventually have a corrupted channel list due to one satellite having no transponders listed in it.

My next sat list I am working on is experimenting with having a H & V polarity Satellite's listed in the receiver. So far it appears to work fine on a few sats that have Freq's that are part time and close in numbers that every channel can be put in the receiver without a problem. Creating these lists and adding the channels, and having it done correctly, can take an entire day to finish.

cbuddy

Jul 27, 2011

Well, after reading the file on "North Americanizing" the AZBox that came along with the box from the seller, I think I will need to get some of the files and update a few things and be able to edit lists. But so far, I have not had anything lost from memory, so maybe the reference to that is if the unit crashes, and not when it is powered off. Thanks to Radar & Stargaze on clarifying the updates issue..

I am still puzzled by what happens during blind scans. When I begin by clearing nearly all TP's, I get anything from excellent to very poor results. Some is certainly due to conditions, but some seems to be what the AZBox does - as in the scan itself, and whether or not it reinstates deleted TP's before or during the scan. But I am getting a lot of services, now several hundred with very good to excellent quality signals, and I have only located about ten birds. My biggest problem at the moment is finding birds with my arcane analog box set up, which is painfully slow. I am also unable to master a few settings issues, but I will post those separately.

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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?

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long_time_Dish

Today at 3:47 PM

reubenray said:
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?

Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.

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long_time_Dish said:
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.

Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.

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reubenray said:
Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.

If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.

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They get cruel sometimes, very very cruel.. Hated to see my dawgs go down but I still say being ranked #1 is a hex on you!

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DISH Hopper 3 Software Version 713 Is Out

No idea what improvements might be involved.

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bookworm370

Saturday at 3:17 PM

Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.

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naptime

Yesterday at 1:05 AM

I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.

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reubenray

Yesterday at 6:14 AM

bookworm370 said:
Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.

My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.

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dishstaller

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reubenray said:
My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning.

Had a customer call recently saying their remote was really acting up, some buttons no longer functioned. Told them to reboot the Hopper....problem fixed.
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"

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dishstaller said:
Wife bought me a t-shirt that has "have you tried turning it off and on again?"

Here's the one I need:

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Here's the one I need:

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jsmit86

Today at 9:57 AM

naptime said:
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.

It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.

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long_time_Dish

Today at 3:57 PM

jsmit86 said:
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.

Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin

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Almighty1

Today at 4:07 PM

jsmit86 said:
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.

I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.

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Almighty1 said:
it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner

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Its crazy how the ViP922 is so rare for no reason.

Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!

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HipKat

Today at 8:55 AM

I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.

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Today at 9:02 AM

Well if it is because of reliability that wouldnt shock me.I went through 5 or 6 of them in little over 2 years. I loved the Sling when it worked! Saved lots of money having it in the day. That was probably 15 or 16 years ago?

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Today at 1:22 PM

HipKat said:
I think they were more of a transitional receiver bridging the VIPs to the Hopper. They were a PITA to install and were buggy. Personally, I thought at the time that they were the best receiver out there. The versatility of the VIP's with the new Hopper GUI and, by far, the coolest-looking front plate and lighting.

I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.

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Nominal

Today at 4:30 PM

telstar_1 said:
I don't recall that they came out just before hopper, but rather that they came out even before 722. Or could be thinking of 921.

As to the title pf the post, "rare" does not necessarily mean valuable or desirable.

You are thinking of the 921. The 922 was the first DVR with Sling functionality built in (that was eventually disabled along with the Sling Adapter for the 722s and the 1st Hopper because they relied on now-defunct Adobe Flash technology). With the bugginess described by others and the removal of its marquee feature (Sling) the 922 faded into obscurity once the Hopper 2 with built in Sling was released and they finally made the concept into a fully functional product.

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Today at 5:05 PM

I had one, the front panel lighting was cool, the menus were fresh and a lot more modern looking than the ViPs. However, it was very buggy and the Sling functionality just didn't work well - I think it was due to internet speeds at the time. I think I had to pay $40 for the Sling app on my phone iirc.

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Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
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