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I recently acquired c band equipment from about 2 hours away from my location. I finally got the dish mounted but cannot get any signal.
Here is what I have: StarTrak 10' dish, StarTrak c band lnb, Superjack actuator, GI350I receiver (for moving the dish), Openbox S9
Here is what I have done: The polar mount is set to true south using a compass (160 degrees magnetic). I mounted the dish but have not made any adjustments to elevation or declination as I assumed it wouldn't be far off already. I moved the dish to what I believe is 99 W and cannot get any signal. The GI has 4 digit sat positions – is there a chart somewhere where I can confirm the sats for these numbers? The previous owner had them all written in his manual so I have been able to figure it out but want to confirm. Regardless, I can't get signal on anything – my S9 reads intensity 45% and quality 10% always.
Questions:
I have used a lot of sites (geo-orbit) being the best I have found – I need some basic help to verify if I have setup the dish correctly. Any assistance is greatly appreciated.
I am in a remote location (my cabin) which is where the dish is and I have this week to try to get it working. My location is lat 51.5253 long -120.7552. I am on dialup internet so sending pics could be a challenge but willing to try if it will help solve my issues.
Here is what I have: StarTrak 10' dish, StarTrak c band lnb, Superjack actuator, GI350I receiver (for moving the dish), Openbox S9
Here is what I have done: The polar mount is set to true south using a compass (160 degrees magnetic). I mounted the dish but have not made any adjustments to elevation or declination as I assumed it wouldn't be far off already. I moved the dish to what I believe is 99 W and cannot get any signal. The GI has 4 digit sat positions – is there a chart somewhere where I can confirm the sats for these numbers? The previous owner had them all written in his manual so I have been able to figure it out but want to confirm. Regardless, I can't get signal on anything – my S9 reads intensity 45% and quality 10% always.
Questions:
- Elevation – sat charts say I should be at 31 degree and the dish is currently at about 60 degrees. I placed one piece of wood along the polar mount and one on the level to measure – is this right?
- lnb – I haven't done anything with this – it is set at 38 on the lnb itself – not sure if this is correct. I hear the lnb when I change channels so I believe it is attached correctly. My dish is 10' and the depth 22" and 45" from the centre of the dish to the feedhorn.
I have used a lot of sites (geo-orbit) being the best I have found – I need some basic help to verify if I have setup the dish correctly. Any assistance is greatly appreciated.
I am in a remote location (my cabin) which is where the dish is and I have this week to try to get it working. My location is lat 51.5253 long -120.7552. I am on dialup internet so sending pics could be a challenge but willing to try if it will help solve my issues.
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Re: angles - I'll record the angles next time I am up at the cabin. I believe the final latitude angle ended up at about 55 degrees when I had it originally at 51 degrees. Moving the dish down did the job.
Re: marking the pole/mount - I did mark it with paint but I like the more permanent solution - I may etch it the next time I am up (about a month). In the meantime, I have included some pics of the dish and the view it has of the sky.
I have encountered an issue with my actuator as it gives a "no pulse response" error when I try to move the dish more than 2-3 satellite positions - I keep re-selecting the satellite and it continues to move but often stops with the jack error. I can slowly make it to the satellite position but it is painful and slow - I believe all the connections are correct, is this a sign the motor is dying? Maybe grease will help? I know my actuator mount is bent (pic attached) but it has been tracking the arc perfectly so I don't want to mess with it (not that I could bend it back anyway) ...thoughts? Are the bolts connecting the actuator to the mount and dish supposed to be tight or loose? It seems like when the motor needs to work harder it gives up and gives the "no pulse response - jack error" message (on the GI350i).
btw - like the new retaining walls I just built?
Re: marking the pole/mount - I did mark it with paint but I like the more permanent solution - I may etch it the next time I am up (about a month). In the meantime, I have included some pics of the dish and the view it has of the sky.
I have encountered an issue with my actuator as it gives a "no pulse response" error when I try to move the dish more than 2-3 satellite positions - I keep re-selecting the satellite and it continues to move but often stops with the jack error. I can slowly make it to the satellite position but it is painful and slow - I believe all the connections are correct, is this a sign the motor is dying? Maybe grease will help? I know my actuator mount is bent (pic attached) but it has been tracking the arc perfectly so I don't want to mess with it (not that I could bend it back anyway) ...thoughts? Are the bolts connecting the actuator to the mount and dish supposed to be tight or loose? It seems like when the motor needs to work harder it gives up and gives the "no pulse response - jack error" message (on the GI350i).
btw - like the new retaining walls I just built?
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Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
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An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Over the past year I have been tracking the changes on Western Arc. The past 3 months have had a lot of changes that I posted in the other MPEG2 Western Arc shutdown thread. Now that 129 is (basically) out of commission, here is where Western Arc stands. This is just a national channel list, (no local channels) based off what I can see and what others have contributed. Thanks to everyone who has helped me come up with the locations of some of the channels – I would try and list all of you out, but I know I would forget someone! As has been suggested in other parts of the forum, it would be great to collect the spotbeam data for those who could contribute!
A couple of pieces of info:
When I talk about number of channels on a transponder, all my numbers are unique channels – for example, channel 101 and 199 are the same channel mapped to two different numbers, but in terms of space, only takes up 1 channel worth of bandwidth on the transponder.
Finally, I have to give Dish a ton of credit. When it was 110/119/129, Dish had 82 transponders they were using – it took a lot to get it down to 50 transponders and figure out where all the pieces were going to go. What are the things they did to get there? Here are the things I saw:
A couple of pieces of info:
- Out of the 64 transponders between 110/119, there are currently 50 transponders that Dish is licensed to use. 22 are Spotbeams, 28 are ConUS transponders (14 transponders are licensed to DirecTV and Dish doesn't have access to them)
- Those 28 ConUS transponders are divided as follows:
- 10 are dedicated to National HD channels (ESPN, CNN, Disney Channel, etc). Dish is maxing out at 16 HD channels per transponder (note – in an earlier post I said there was one transponder with 17 HD channels, that was an error on my part. When I double checked my listings, one channel changed transponders). Before the transition, there was a maximum of 14 HD channels per transponder.
- 1 transponder is dedicated to adult content
- 2 are a mixture HD PPV Movies/4k channels
- 3 are set aside for HD Sports channels that are only on for live games (NBA League Pass, the PAC 12 alternate channels, some PPV events, etc); 3 SD PPV Sports Channels are there as well.
- 7 are for SD and/or music channels. Dish is maxing out at 26 SD channels per transponder thus far on the SD transponders.
- 5 transponders on 110 I have no channels listed but Dish operates. (they are labeled as ConUS on my chart below) There are other things that could be on those transponders, like RV Distant Networks, internal testing channels, etc, that I can't see. They might be able to be used for additional content, but I am not sure exactly what is on those transponders.
When I talk about number of channels on a transponder, all my numbers are unique channels – for example, channel 101 and 199 are the same channel mapped to two different numbers, but in terms of space, only takes up 1 channel worth of bandwidth on the transponder.
Finally, I have to give Dish a ton of credit. When it was 110/119/129, Dish had 82 transponders they were using – it took a lot to get it down to 50 transponders and figure out where all the pieces were going to go. What are the things they did to get there? Here are the things I saw:
- During this migration from 129, Dish converted 7 ConUS transponders on 119 into Spotbeams – that is how they ended up fitting on all the HD locals that used to be on 129. (for those interested, TP 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13 are the ones that used to be ConUS on 119 that are now Spotbeam)
- Removed almost all SD duplicate channels that are offered in HD
- Converted remaining SD channels from MPEG2 to MPEG4
- There are also 2 subtle things that changed from the HD channel perspective
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- At the beginning of April when MLB, NBA, and NHL regular seasons were all going on at the same time and this transition began, there were a ton of games "joined in progress" for the HD feeds. That wasn't common since the days before the full time HD RSN's. The reason for that was prior to the transition, Dish had 4 transponders set aside for HD Sports – 2 transponders was the bandwidth set aside from the HD RSN's before Dish dropped the RSN's, then 2 transponders were for alternate channels. Now we are down to 3 transponders for HD sports.
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I ran the Schedule S through ChatGPT to analyze the data quickly, and according to ChatGPT, the 16 transponders currently being used for SpotBeams on 110 is all that has been authorized by the FCC. So Dish might be using TP 01-13 for ConUS on 110 for the foreseeable future. If that is the case, Dish has a ton of space to bring in more HD channels nationally or use that bandwidth for something else.
I know my lists aren't perfect as I can't see all the test channels and behind the scenes channels, but for channels available to subscribers - there are no channels on 119 TP 01-08 and 10; and on 110, TP14 has only 4 channels. With Dish putting 16 HD channels per transponder right now, that is about 145+ slots for HD channels that are available if Dish does keep 110 as ConUS for TP 01-13.
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