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Mark_AR
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I'd like to start a sticky thread with Sling adapter errors:

I've had a DIRT member working with me for 12 days and I am NO CLOSER than when I started. I am ready to ship lock stock and barrel back to dish.

I'd like for this to work so I can go on vacation in my RV and still stream my local news. I will be 1000 miles away so it NEEDS TO WORK!

So far today:

ERROR 8
ERROR 2 (Multiple times til I reset the 722) Then
ERROR 44 (40)
46 (46) after 5 min streaming @ 8024-9125kbps in home network
Then quit flittering with it because I was upset.


Past ERRORS:
ERROR 46
ERROR 46(46)
ERROR 33(2)
ERROR 36(38)
ERROR 31
ERROR 31(31)


System Specs:
Speedtest results:
Ping 72ms
Down 3.06Mb
Up .64Mb

Hardware:
VIP722
DSL Windstream/Sagem F@st 1704 modem/Router
Speed according to modem:
3.584Mb Down
.763MB Up

Software: FF 3.6.20 and Internet Exploder 8.0.2600
Flash 10.3.r183
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Mark_AR
I like the dish.sling.com interface much better than DRA because they keep asking me about the green light and so far that is the only place my browser displays it. Now tonight using DO, I was able to connect at 8015kbps-9023kbps on my home network. The best I could ever get with dish.sling.com was about 800kb/ps. Not sure why, I thought BOTH sites connect locally from the Dish Acrapter to the player via the home network.


Also, I got a reply from Dish Answers on FB: I asked them to please help with my problem in this thread. and here is what I was told:
DishAnswers via Facebook said:
Unfortunately, I cannot come up with a specific setting that needs changed. Usually there is a firewall setting that blocks the streaming process as a security process. I am not trained in the ins and outs of Windstream most likely you will need to contact them. Keep in mind we aren't necessarily looking for a connection problem as much as we are looking for a setting that is blocking your ability to stream.

So how can it be a setting in my F@st 1704 DSL modem/router when it will stream sometimes and not other times just by time passing and not changing any settings. It just doesn't make sense. I even went so far as to give the VIP722 its own STATIC IP on the network so that if something happens to the DHCP server list, It always gets the same addy.

I'll call Windstream tomorrow, but I don't know of any settings in my modem that would intermittently cause the list of errors above. Seems like I will just chase my tail some more.... sigh

I'd like to keep this thread to a list of ERRORS, What causes them and what to do to FIX each of them or at least get some answers so I can build a FAQ or sticky for others that are banging their heads off of adjacent doorways.
TG2
TG2
Did they have you setup port forwarding?

here's a link to a slingbox forum post .. where Sling references going to portforward.com
http://answers.slingbox.com/message/48074

note that there isn't currently instructions for the 1704 ... so what Sling is suggesting is to see if either of their links is similar to the setup screens their OP has ... and thus can walk through a little.

*ATTENTION PLEASE* if you find they (instructional screens from above portforward.com reference) are similar... do *NOT* port forward 5001 .. :D that's for a slingbox not a sling adapter.. for sling adapters its 5101 (for the first such adapter, and 5102 for the second sling adapter if you have two)

I strongly recommend setting up Static DHCP entries for things like the Dish Network Receiver ... if you have a bluray, internet connected AV receiver ... etc.. so that these devices will always get the same ip addresses, and so if you *do* have to set up manual port forwards, that should something go wrong.. they won't get different ip addresses on reboots of devices..

Next.. to the "error collection" I offer you this:
http://slingbox.wikia.com/wiki/Slingplayer_Error_Codes
its not official .. its someone else's listing of errors and its full hex not the simplified errors we see in the window.. but the few errors I've seen in user log files match up with the ones I've seen there (main one I've seen is 0x92340011 - Operation failed because it was taking too long)

anyway.. if you haven't done port forwarding & static DHCP ... let me know I'll do what I can to help.


EDIT: one of the reasons its working some times and not others.. port forwarding "meshes sometimes" .. UPnP with a dish receiver, is supposed to contact the gateway router and tell it "hey I need port 5101 open to me" ... the router should reply back "ok you got it" or "sorry someone else has that, do you want to use a different port?" in the latter case, that's when the sling adapter (dish receiver) will say "oh ok.. how about 5102 then?"

UPnP then sets up the port forward such that any incoming network traffic (from any where!) that is coming IN to port 5101 is re-directed internally to .. the dish receiver..

IF you don't have UPnP as an option.. or you find its *not* working, then you need to manually set up the ports, and hence my above links, and such. --Good Luck!
Mark_AR
OK, Where do I start... Or continue... I have been getting ERROR 46(46) intermittently all night. The longest I went without incident on my home network was about 30 min, the least was 2 minute between errors.

The SAGEMcom F@st1704 is easy to configure if you have done ANY router/dsl modem setup.

I had already set up port forwarding as well as static IP after reading a Broadband Reports.com Windstream forum last night. I set ports 5001, 5101 & 5102 to the IP of the VIP722. After reading your post TG2, I deleted port 5001.

Here is how I set up my modem/router step by step.

To set up Static IP on an Ethernet connected(not wireless) network for VIP722 on Windstream/Sagemcom F@st1704

First access NETWORK SETUP on your receiver. press MENU - 6 - 1 - 9 - 2 on your SAT remote and copy the IP address & Ethernet MAC.

Log in to the F@st1704 by copying 192.168.254.254 in your browsers address bar. A user/password box will appear. (Usually the user & Pw are: admin, admin) If not, check with your internet provider.

To set STATIC IP:
Click on LAN
Click Add Entries
Enter the MAC address of the 722 in the format of 01:23:45:67:89:ab in the top box and the IP address 192.168.xxx.xxx as copied from your TV screen.
SAVE
It should look like this:
aidqRv
http://flic.kr/p/aidqRv
(Static_IP)

Set PORT FORWARDING:
Go to Advanced Setup
- NAT
- Virtual Servers Setup
Click ADD
Then select Custom Service and enter '722/Sling' or something descriptive in the box.
Copy the Server IP of the VIP722 192.168.254.xxx where xxx is the last numbers you copied from the network set up screen.
Then SAVE
aig4no
http://flic.kr/p/aig4no
(NAT_VSS1)

At this point I REBOOT both the VIP722 and my ROUTER.


TG2-uPNP is enabled by default.

The Slingplayer error list doesn't really help me further my understanding of the Dish Sling Adapter error codes, but may be a good resource to cross reference to in future. Thanks.
TG2
TG2
The problem in dealing with hardware remotely, is often not having screenshots / manuals that mean anything ... case in point I couldn't find real screen shots nor a real manual for the 1704 when I posted.. stupid links at Winstream kept pointing back to that GD "rebate" crap ..

Key point I see in the screen shot, and your direct notation about UPnP ... is that it does have it.. but if it wasn't working before .. there might still be a problem with how its operating ... (further searches with mtu / connection issues abound)

Doing a couple of new searches tonight/this morning.. found this right off..

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r25059010-Sagem-1704-Wireless-Router-MTU-Issues

while mentioned are PS3's Xboxes and the like.. the reality is that any internal network devices that needs streaming could be effected by MTU problems. So you might want to check with them (via dsl reports) to see if you have the newest firmware, or not.

Another post at DSLR showed what either was private or other posts from Windstream about a manual work around being to *disable* UPnP and then setup manual port forwards ... did it let you do both (enabled UPnP and set static/port fowards ... no reason it shouldn't allow you) .. and maybe disabling UPnP and rebooting may help..


Add to my searching problems, that I needed to drop "windstream" from my search attempts .. and so found this (default US page for 1704)
http://www.sagemcom.com/index.php?id=2128&L=0#

but the support options there again are extremely limited with errors pulling up the "support" when clicked on the right side ..

but did finally find a manual in the UK
http://support.sagemcom.com/site/modele_fax.php?page=livret&prd=SagemF@st1704&pays=uk

If disabling UPnP doesn't work... then my next suggestion (probably not liked) backup the config you have not .. reset to factory defaults .. then re-setup yourself..

And if that doesn't work (and MTU or firmware updates aren't available) then the next thing is to see what Windstream has for you ... see if they can configure the 1704 to be bridged mode or even routed mode for a single IP address, get yourself a decent linksys/cisco router and configure the linksys as needed

... if you get something like a 2100L or 2500 or better ... then you also have the option of putting Tomato or DD-WRT firmware on the thing and *that does* work with UPnP fairly well! (dd-wrt/tomato/open-wrt all work on many routers ... its just that getting one with minimum 8 megs flash and 32 or more megs ram is fairly important ... my primary is a 2100L my secondaries <bridges> are Buffalo 300N's cause they were cheap but fairly well decked out)

All things being equal .... the problems are more than likely the DSL modem/router and having problems with either port forwarding or as others reported MTU ... on any given day if only a few users are reporting problems with DRA or DO it could be either local to them or Dish ... only when there's mass issues would I lay the blame solely on Dish's head... though they could have done *WAY* better at error reporting than they do now!

Good Luck!!
Mark_AR
Over two weeks of on-and-off usage with no more tweaks other than what I posted above to my modem/network.

I have less problems with dish.sling.com than I do with dishonline.com, so go figure that one out.

Random 46(46) errors as well as 36(2) errors but not as frequent as first few days. I think it is a hardware glitch because as I was typing this, the sling was streaming at 3650kb then suddenly quit blinking and a few moments later I got an error 44. I was able to reconnect as soon as TV2's blue light went out.

I was also able to finally use the web player with the sling adapter out in the real world with anywhere from around 500kb/ps on some random open wifi network. I will have to see what kind of throughput I can get when at open RV park networks. I don't know how many are throttled. Will just have to experiment but by then this thing needs to work for months unattended.
JSheridan
Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
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MikeD-C05
I don't know why DISH doesn't just start a streaming version of DISH and then if you can't see the western arc you go with streaming versions and then they could keep customers if they had good internet speeds. I mean Sling TV could be changed to Streaming DISH TV if they wanted since both companies are under Echostar. Then you would still be able to use your ota antenna with Air TV devices like I do with Air TV Anywhere with 4 ota tuners.
Scott Greczkowski
I don't know why DISH doesn't just start a streaming version of DISH
I have the same wish.
B
I have the same wish.
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite
Scott Greczkowski
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite
They keep the satellite service too. But have. Full streaming version of dish. As sling tv sucks eggs.
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Almighty1
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite
And the same reason why DISH removing satellite 118 for international channels is a bad idea as at least in my case, TVB Jade World costs $29.99/month and depends on a internet connection for the signal transport to the DISH Hopper 3 + Hopper Plus to stream the channel which makes it unavailable on DISH Anywhere and also I am providing the transport pipe at my own expense when it was supposed to be a dedicated connection via satellite between DISH and the DISH equipment.
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navychop
As sling tv sucks eggs.

PHONE CALL FOR MISTER SCOTT G! PHONE CALL FOR MISTER SCOTT G! FROM A MISTER C ERGEN!……

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NYDutch
Why?
A lot of people do not have fast internet.
That is why they use satellite
DISH will happily sell them a Starlink system and service.
T
Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
Bobby
Supporting Founder Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This is a thread that will keep you apprised of 4K events that will be showing on Dish channel 540. Keep looking here for information.

As of today, 9-27-17, there are no scheduled events posted for the next 2 weeks. That is subject to change on a daily basis.
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Bobby
MLB, Rays at Brewers, Friday 10-23, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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MLB, Rays at Brewers, Saturday 10-24, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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MLB, Brewers at Rays, Monday 10-26, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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MLB, Brewers at Rays, Tuesday 10-27, 5PM PDT, Channel 148-01.
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CFB, Florida vs Georgia, Saturday 10-31, 12:30PM PDT, Channel 148-03.
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TheForce
Supporting Founder Pub Member / Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Phone & Tablet Zone
Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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comfortably_numb
Can't remember if I've posted this yet..


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfL5seXJyWU
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Foxbat
If you ponied up for an iPhone Duo, keep it away from anything other than your soft, fleshy fingertips. No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter. And don't bend it more than it needs to. Zack has destroyed $2,000 of Apple hardware to get those views, which should cover his expenses.
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comfortably_numb
No fingernails, no dust, sand, dirt, or other particulate matter

And definitely no medieval chain armor!
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harshness
medieval chain armor
Aka "mail" or "maille".
Foxbat
IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
​

But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.
S

most carriers do. that's why they send updates that slow phones down!! i buy unlocked phones no effect to me
S
IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
​

But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.

hope you have apple care a screen job is 1000.00 :oops:. can we say over priced garbage!!!
V
Last reply · posted in DIRECTV General Forum
I'm thinking of switching to DirecTV and wanted to know what equipment I should be asking for.

I'm wanting wired satellite due to that fact that I live in the sticks and there is no reliable, decent speed internet for streaming available.

What would be the correct equipment for three 4K tvs in the house?
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navychop
I'm having trouble with the posit that StarLink is not available. You do not appear to be in an oversubscribed area

Why do you think you can't get StarLink?
V
I'm having trouble with the posit that StarLink is not available. You do not appear to be in an oversubscribed area

Why do you think you can't get StarLink?
I never said that Starlink is not available. The Starlink app shows obstructions for every category, so I have not researched it further.
S
I never said that Starlink is not available. The Starlink app shows obstructions for every category, so I have not researched it further.
The HR-54 is the hardwired genie 5 tuners 1TB HDD the HS--17 the 7 tuner 2TB hdd is only a wireless setup now. dtv csr's are crap also
Tom Speer
The HR-54 is the hardwired genie 5 tuners 1TB HDD the HS--17 the 7 tuner 2TB hdd is only a wireless setup now. dtv csr's are crap also

If they are requiring all clients on a new HS17 install to be wireless, that is not a technical requirement. It saves their techs from having to pull coax all over the house. It makes installations cheaper.
Jimbo
The DirecTV order entry work flow doesn't allow wired clients with an HS17. Does that clear it up for you?
Yet the C61k (4k unit) was wired only ?
That was the only unit available for the HS17 if you wanted 4K

How does that work ?

Or do I havwe that flip flopped ?
It's been awhile for me now.
S
Yet the C61k (4k unit) was wired only ?
That was the only unit available for the HS17 if you wanted 4K

How does that work ?

Or do I havwe that flip flopped ?
It's been awhile for me now.
the hs 17 only gets the wireless geminis no more hardwiring.. i think dtv is trying to ween people offf of the teat satellite
JSheridan
the hs 17 only gets the wireless geminis no more hardwiring.. i think dtv is trying to ween people offf of the teat satellite
I think Dish might be the only service that still wires houses. The cable company has gone wireless, Verizon is switching all their copper line customers to wireless, DirecTV Stream, even most surveillance and alarm systems are going wireless.
S
I think Dish might be the only service that still wires houses. The cable company has gone wireless, Verizon is switching all their copper line customers to wireless, DirecTV Stream, even most surveillance and alarm systems are going wireless.
our hopper and joey 4's are all hard wired
b4pjoe
our hopper and joey 4's are all hard wired
So is my 2 Gemini's and my 4 HR24's.
JSheridan
So is my 2 Gemini's and my 4 HR24's.
And I'm guessing they've been that way for quite a while. The future of DirecTV is no wires. Actually, the future of DirecTV is probably a merger with Dish, and IMHO if Charlie is smart he'll use the DirecTV brand.
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S
And I'm guessing they've been that way for quite a while. The future of DirecTV is no wires. Actually, the future of DirecTV is probably a merger with Dish, and IMHO if Charlie is smart he'll use the DirecTV brand.
why not just do a rebranding of the two :what
JSheridan
why not just do a rebranding of the two :what
As they pivot away from using dishes and more toward streaming, the DirecTV brand would make much more sense.
b4pjoe
And I'm guessing they've been that way for quite a while. The future of DirecTV is no wires. Actually, the future of DirecTV is probably a merger with Dish, and IMHO if Charlie is smart he'll use the DirecTV brand.
Yes mine was wired years ago. However you can still order satellite service with wired receivers on the DIRECTV website. I guess you cannot if you call to order the service.
Jimbo
I would take an HR54 over a HS17 ANY day of the week ... The HR54 Looks like a recvr, works in your set up fine ...
The HS17 is a large triangle that looks stupid in your equipment, often they try to Hie in behind something ... just a poor design over all.

If you got an HS17 they Forced you to give up you Stand alone Recvrs ... just a poor idea ...
I had my HR54 to the end, along with my HR24's ...

At least I could still enjoy D* when traveling in the Motor home when I kept the HR54 set up at home, as well as at the lake.
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I would take an HR54 over a HS17 ANY day of the week ... The HR54 Looks like a recvr, works inn tour set up fine ...
The HS17 is a large triangle that looks stupid in your equipment, often they try to Hie in behind something ... just a poor design over all.
It's not a poor design when you factor in that it has a Wireless Video Bridge built-in. It's shaped like a router or gateway for a reason.
JSheridan
Yes mine was wired years ago. However you can still order satellite service with wired receivers on the DIRECTV website. I guess you cannot if you call to order the service.
We're a DirecTV retailer and there is no where in the order entry flow to have wired clients with an HS17. I heard that when it's ordered on the website the installer shows up with only HS17's and wireless clients. I don't know how reliable that info is as it came from a dubious source but it makes sense.
b4pjoe
We're a DirecTV retailer and there is no where in the order entry flow to have wired clients with an HS17. I heard that when it's ordered on the website the installer shows up with only HS17's and wireless clients. I don't know how reliable that info is as it came from a dubious source but it makes sense.
Yeah that would not surprise me but they do have the option on the website for wired installs. I would guess when they show up with wireless clients most people won't object. I would but a lot of people probably would not.
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S
It's not a poor design when you factor in that it has a Wireless Video Bridge built-in. It's shaped like a router or gateway for a reason.
i do agree with jimbo on wanting to hide the HS-17 :biggrin been there ;):coco
S
As they pivot away from using dishes and more toward streaming, the DirecTV brand would make much more sense.
agree to a certain point!!! is charlies pockets gonna get tight and will he cancel channels because he don't want to pay for them??? a hopper 3 on dtv channel lineup would be amazing and every mans dream come true lol :what ;)
R
I would take an HR54 over a HS17 ANY day of the week ... The HR54 Looks like a recvr, works in your set up fine ...
The HS17 is a large triangle that looks stupid in your equipment, often they try to Hie in behind something ... just a poor design over all.

If you got an HS17 they Forced you to give up you Stand alone Recvrs ... just a poor idea ...
I had my HR54 to the end, along with my HR24's ...

At least I could still enjoy D* when traveling in the Motor home when I kept the HR54 set up at home, as well as at the lake.
Well, different strokes and all that. I've had that HS17 sitting quietly doing its job for almost a decade. As I mentioned earlier, at one point I had two wired and two wireless receivers. Now, just one C61K.

Even before that I had a HR44 with an HR24 and two wireless minis. Back then, which was years ago, I would have agreed with the need for individual receivers, but at this point, I stream almost everything, including shows I used to record.

It'll be moot soon enough anyway. Wired receivers/DVRs are going the way of the POTS landline. You can't stop progress.
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If they are requiring all clients on a new HS17 install to be wireless, that is not a technical requirement. It saves their techs from having to pull coax all over the house. It makes installations cheaper.
they still won't do it if there's coax from dish in the home!!
Comptech
Last reply · posted in SiriusXM Satellite Radio
Squirrels have eaten my antenna wire on my home unit that is a car radio running of the 12 volt side of my solar system. I need a new antenna and would like to add something to one of my existing masts. The reason I am looking at this that I am also covered in trees which has not been a problem, but something mast mounted would future proof me. Thanks in advance.
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cp2k
The Pixel Radio Pro-500 and Pro-600 are the best home antennas for that type of setup. I sent you a PM, as I actually have one I was planning to list in the Classifieds when this heat wave subsides in the South.
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A
The Pixel Radio Pro-500 and Pro-600 are the best home antennas for that type of setup. I sent you a PM, as I actually have one I was planning to list in the Classifieds when this heat wave subsides in the South.
We have the pro-500 and it's a beast pulling in the signal!!! always full bars no matter how much it rains. it's worth every penny ;) :) :)
Comptech
squirrel GIF
I am a animal lover, but this year I gave up gardening. Even moved it to potted plants on the second story deck last year. Can't tell you how much use my Ruger 10-22 got, but it was a losing battle for me. Never got any food. So now they eat coax instead! 20 acres of dense woods behind me and my stuff tastes better, either veggies or wires!
Comptech
Last year they ate through my times microwave LMR400 for my CB! had to cut it back and put male and female connectors on it. So much for having a pristine run of LMR400.
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i might think about running cables through some conduit to prevent the Squirrels from chewing em all to hell ;)
S
these are good for travel
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osu1991
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
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Bobby
Rest in peace. Together again with Spock, Doc, Uhura, and Scotty...
long_time_Dish
Rest in peace, Checkov, and Bester too...
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FTA4PA
Rest In Peace 😢
Ramy
Supporting Founder
Last reply · posted in The Sports Section
Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Y
The playoff told us rankings are pointless. Lesser ranked teams were winning playoff games. Ranking the top 24? Rank it the same way as normal. It'll consist of at least four or five of each cartel's teams, other conference winners. The field will be fine, the sorting will be problematic and arbitrary, but in the end does it matter?

It'll matter when OSU or Alabama have to face a decent upstart squad due to being ranked midway in the listing, or goodness help us, each other. But thanks to arbitrary rankings, that should be easily avoided by design. Then the cartels will need to fix the rankings a bit so the top dogs can have a bye or three to help prevent those untimely eliminations from the playoff.
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osu1991
For better or worse, NIL and the transfer portal have evened the field. NCAA will be pretty much like the NFL with records being kind of meaningless and anyone can make a run and win it all.
Jimbo
The playoff told us rankings are pointless. Lesser ranked teams were winning playoff games. Ranking the top 24? Rank it the same way as normal. It'll consist of at least four or five of each cartel's teams, other conference winners. The field will be fine, the sorting will be problematic and arbitrary, but in the end does it matter?

It'll matter when OSU or Alabama have to face a decent upstart squad due to being ranked midway in the listing, or goodness help us, each other. But thanks to arbitrary rankings, that should be easily avoided by design. Then the cartels will need to fix the rankings a bit so the top dogs can have a bye or three to help prevent those untimely eliminations from the playoff.
As for meeting each other, you say they automatically avoid ... not really, if I recall, when Ohio State won in 2 years ago, they had the toughest route to win it all .... they played Tennessee, then it was the #1 team Oregon, in round 2 then Texas in round 3 then Notre Dame in the Finals .... thats hardly avoiding the tough match ups.

Personally, I don't want to see 42- 10 blowouts in the first 2 rounds ....

Not sure where you found lesser teams beating higher ranked teams ... (outside of the Top teams, which any could beat each other (1-8).

Which in my opinion is where the Playoffs should be teams 1-8 .
Team number 64 has ZERO chance to win 4-5 games against top teams.

Btw, whens the last time a (in basketball) 32-64 ranked team WON it all, or even got to the Final 2 ?????

I'll wait.
Y
You mean other than Miami being in the final last year... and Indiana being the only bye team to win a game?
Ronnie-
I see alot saying nobody is good because several have a loss or two. I disagree. I think more teams are good now, and even.

Its made for some more competitive games imo.
Ronnie-
For better or worse, NIL and the transfer portal have evened the field. NCAA will be pretty much like the NFL with records being kind of meaningless and anyone can make a run and win it all.
The NIL and tranfer portal definitely need some work, or guidelines, but it has evened stuff out somewhat.

Even the expanded playoff. While it does make a single regular season game less relevant in the overall picture, its added a different level of interest imo. Losing a game, or two even, doesnt mean your season is over. The teams still have ALOT to play for.

I am not as against this (as a whole that still needs tweaking) as I thought I would be. More competitive football, I think that is a good thing.
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Long Hot Summer - Keith Urban
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Long Cool Woman (In a Black Dress) - The Hollies
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Cool Jerk - The Mindbenders
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Cool Change - Little River Band
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Change Of The Guard - Steely Dan
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We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Two Chicago style hot dogs and a Fanta orange soda.
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Fanta orange soda.
Sitting in fridge cooling off, bought 1 along with 2 Mexican Cokes at La Tienda... (I keep a few cokes stashed as well as in fridge and camper fridge)
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Garlic cheese bread
Green beans
Apples
Chocolate Milk
Some weird noodles. ;)
(They have salad and a couple other fruits if wanted)
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Club sandwich and corn chowder. Iced tea.
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Chili dog bowl, water… (homemade chili)
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Leftover wanton soup and pork fried rice. Water.