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Dee_Ann
Last reply · posted in General Home Theater Equipment
Hi,

I am completely confused.

Last week I bought a little WD HDTV Live Plus box.

I have a Vizio 32" flat screen TV.

I also have a home theater satellite tuner setup.

I have an RCA 5.1 stereo amplifier.

I have the satellite PC sound connected to the RCA with a laser cable. I can see a red light in the cable.

The PC is connected to the TV with an hdmi cable but no sound goes through the cable because it makes a terrible popping noise in the TV speakers like a clock ticking. So the PC is connected to the tv hdmi port that has video only and it ignores the hdmi sound. If that makes any sense. That's why there is a separate sound cable that goes from the pc to the RCA. This was not my idea or doing, my ex hooked all this mess up. I asked him why he did it this way and he said this was the only way it would work properly without the popping sound.

Well, whatever. It works. It's complicated but it works and I have no idea how to change it anyway.

So I bought the little WD thing and put it on the other hdmi port of the TV. It works just fine. It plays video and sound on the TV through the hdmi wire just fine. BUT, the TV only has two speakers and it didn't sound so great after being used to my RCA 5.1 speakers.

So I wanted the WD to also go through the RCA speakers like the satellite does.

I bought another laser sound cable and connected the TV into the RCA.

Then I went into the TV menu and turned off the TV speakers.
Now when I use the TV tuner the sound goes through the RCA and it also does the same when I play the WD on the TV.

So now ALL the sound, be it from the TV tuner, the WD box or the satellite pc, all plays on the RCA 5.1 and it all goes through the laser cables.

It sounds really good now but I'm not sure what I'm doing. On the TV menu there was an option for the sound that I had to pick either Dolby Digital or PCM. It doesn't say what that is for, it doesn't say which is better, doesn't say if it applies to the TV tuner, hdmi ports or whatever. It assumes you know what to select already. :mad:

Another huge annoyance is that now the TV remote control no longer controls the volume or mute.

When watching satellite, there is a remote control for the pc tuner cards and it controls the volume and mute among other things. I just turn the RCA on and forget it. The pc is run directly into the RCA stereo by laser wire. I do not use the TV remote control when watching satellite.

Before I put a laser wire between the TV and the RCA, the TV remote would control the volume of the TV speakers when using the TV tuner or the WD box. Now it does not at all. The TV remote no longer has any effect on the sound at all, no volume, no mute control.. :(

When watching TV or the WD box I have to use the crummy little remote that belongs to the RCA stereo to adjust volume and mute it. I hate that remote control. And now I went from having one remote (satellite) to FOUR remotes.
1. TV
2. Satellite
3. RCA
4. WD Live+

I know this sounds confusing and stupid. I guess that's because it is.

What I'm wondering is,

1. What do I set the TV to? The options are PCM or Dolby Digital.
2. Is there anyway to get the TV remote to control the volume like it once did?
3. Is there anyway to consolidate all these flippin remote controls into ONE remote? This is extremely annoying more than anything.

I own some weird remote that I can't figure out. My ex told me it's not compatible with my satellite. The only thing I can do with it is turn an OLD TV set in the kitchen on and off. I bought this thing several years ago for like $150 because it was supposed to be able to operate any and everything in my house. I never figured it out and I lost the booklet for it a long time ago.

It would be awesome to get all these darn remotes working on this one remote, I like it because it lights up and I can see it in the dark unlike all the other remotes that I can not and always have to turn the darn lights on to operate them, every time.

Is there any hope to this mess??

Thanks guys! :)
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jayn_j
What is the model number of the Vizio? I can try and look up the manual for some hints on what is happening.
Dee_Ann
What is the model number of the Vizio? I can try and look up the manual for some hints on what is happening.

I am not 100% sure because the thing is mounted way high up on the wall and it's impossible to take it down or see behind it. It was a miserable nightmare putting the cables on it, I have small hands and even so it was really hard to get back in there, I ended up cutting my hands all up in the process. :mad: What a really bad design.. :(

I ~think~ it is a Vizio VW32L HDTV30A. That's what the windows display manager says it is.
I don't have the manual for it and the Vizio website says it's a discontinued model. Big surprise there. I think everyone discontinues EVERYTHING about 3 months after it hits the stores.

Doing some reading on other things I have learned that the sound cables are called "optical cables".. Really?? :confused:

They use LIGHT to carry the sound and WIRE to carry the video? How stupid is that?? :confused:

I can't seem to find out if there are really lasers in there, I made that assumption because I see red light in the wires. Oh well, whatever....

I was reading the manual for the WD TV thing and it said that there are three settings in the WD box for sound. One is "stereo" for two or four speakers, another is "digital" for 5.1 surround and the third is "Digital without HDMI audio" and sends no sound through the hdmi cable to the TV and instead sends the sound through the optical sound connection on the WD box. Later this evening I will set it to the second option. I tried all three earlier, not having any idea what they were about and I found that I got sound on the first two and no sound at all on the third. Now I understand why #3 didn't work.


I guess the the TV just can't control the volume of the optical sound. :(
Oh well..

I suppose that's just how it will be.

But what really grinds on my nerves is that now when I want to watch anything I have to keep track of half a dozen remote controls! And being that this is for the TV in my bedroom the remotes are always getting lost in the covers and I'm constantly turning on the lights to either find a remote or to use a remote (can't see the buttons)... :rant:

I was looking at that Harmony remote and that looks pretty good. But I think I want to go for the bigger remote that controls 15 devices. I have enough stuff around here that it would be AWESOME to have just one remote to replace all the others. Fewer batteries, fewer snipe hunts through the blankets and probably fewer headaches in general. It's pricey as heck so it's something I'll have to save up for and make some cutbacks on other things to manage it but I think it would be worth it.

Thanks! :)
jayn_j
Here is the manual link: http://vizio.com/documents/downloads/hdtv/VW32L/Manual.pdf

The description on page 24 and section 3.3.7 on page 44 say that turning off the speakers should mute the TV speakers. A possibility is that you may need to repeat that for every input you use. I have seen that before where each input has an entirely independent set of menus. Also, if you go with the harmony remote and leave the volume all the way down and muted, you will never change it with the harmony because the volume control will be attached to the RCA.

You might also want to look on the top of page 64. That gives you the remote codes, and you could use that to set up the universal remote for the TV. Still wouldn't get you the 1 remote solution, but it would cut the clutter a bit.

I sympathize with the inputs being hard to get to, and I have a few scars myself. Problem is that they are trying to balance an easy to change feature with the ability to hide the cables. If they put them on the side, the cables tend to stick out. Not sure there is a solution that makes everyone happy.

I personally have three Harmony remotes. The home theater uses a Harmony 1, and I love that one. It has a color touch screen which is very easy to use as well as a cradle and rechargable battery. I only use it with a half dozen devices though (projector, BluRay, HD-DVD, Laserdisk, cable box and receiver). Not sure how many it handles. I bought mine at a Black Friday sale for $110, so it might be worthwhile to shop a bit and find a good price.
Dee_Ann
Here is the manual link: http://vizio.com/documents/downloads/hdtv/VW32L/Manual.pdf

The description on page 24 and section 3.3.7 on page 44 say that turning off the speakers should mute the TV speakers. A possibility is that you may need to repeat that for every input you use. I have seen that before where each input has an entirely independent set of menus. Also, if you go with the harmony remote and leave the volume all the way down and muted, you will never change it with the harmony because the volume control will be attached to the RCA.

You might also want to look on the top of page 64. That gives you the remote codes, and you could use that to set up the universal remote for the TV. Still wouldn't get you the 1 remote solution, but it would cut the clutter a bit.

I sympathize with the inputs being hard to get to, and I have a few scars myself. Problem is that they are trying to balance an easy to change feature with the ability to hide the cables. If they put them on the side, the cables tend to stick out. Not sure there is a solution that makes everyone happy.

I personally have three Harmony remotes. The home theater uses a Harmony 1, and I love that one. It has a color touch screen which is very easy to use as well as a cradle and rechargable battery. I only use it with a half dozen devices though (projector, BluRay, HD-DVD, Laserdisk, cable box and receiver). Not sure how many it handles. I bought mine at a Black Friday sale for $110, so it might be worthwhile to shop a bit and find a good price.

Awesome! Thank you!

One thing I do when looking for deals is I have the Invisiblehand plugin for my browser, InvisibleHand: Home

It's pretty cool but not always 100%. I also have several shopping assistance apps installed on my iPhone to help me look for bargains as well.

The Harmony remote is pricey enough that I'll take my time to search for a super bargain on it. Besides, I have to save up anyway, the price of groceries is killing me these days!


Oh, and the cables. What they ~really~ need to do is make white wires! There's a whose mess of ugly black wires hanging down the wall from my TV. I ended up stapling a large sheet of white paper over the wires to sort of hide them. It's not the best solution but it's slightly less ugly than the bare wires.

The people that design this stuff obviously aren't married and must live in a bunker or a warehouse where the "heavy industry" look is the in thing.
jayn_j
White HDMI cable: For only $2.99 each when QTY 50+ purchased - 6ft 28AWG High Speed HDMI Cable w/Ferrite Cores - White | 28AWG HDMI High Speed Certified Male to Male Cables
Cheap. They have other lengths in white (and other colors) as well.
EDIT: Actually, I would do this one. Better quality cable: For only $6.34 each when QTY 50+ purchased - 6ft 24AWG CL2 High Speed HDMI Cable w/ Net Jacket - White | Premium 24AWG HDMI High Speed Certified Male to Male Cables

White power cords are fairly easy to find. If you want to work a bit and get something cleaner, do a search for a "power bridge". That device will hide the wires in the wall. Try this:
For only $43.69 each when QTY 50+ purchased - Recessed Pro Power Kit w/Straight Blade Inlet White | Recessed Low Voltage Cable Wall Plates

It is possible to do a very clean install with a small amount of effort. The power bridge hides all the wires so it looks like the TV is floating on the wall.
Dee_Ann
White HDMI cable: For only $2.99 each when QTY 50+ purchased - 6ft 28AWG High Speed HDMI Cable w/Ferrite Cores - White | 28AWG HDMI High Speed Certified Male to Male Cables
Cheap. They have other lengths in white (and other colors) as well.
EDIT: Actually, I would do this one. Better quality cable: For only $6.34 each when QTY 50+ purchased - 6ft 24AWG CL2 High Speed HDMI Cable w/ Net Jacket - White | Premium 24AWG HDMI High Speed Certified Male to Male Cables

White power cords are fairly easy to find. If you want to work a bit and get something cleaner, do a search for a "power bridge". That device will hide the wires in the wall. Try this:
For only $43.69 each when QTY 50+ purchased - Recessed Pro Power Kit w/Straight Blade Inlet White | Recessed Low Voltage Cable Wall Plates

It is possible to do a very clean install with a small amount of effort. The power bridge hides all the wires so it looks like the TV is floating on the wall.


Hmmm, interesting...
Next year I plan on getting a larger TV to replace the 32 I have now (a 50 or 60 :D ) but before I do I am going to strip out my bedroom and remodel everything, new furniture, etc.. I'll definitely look into these options because I want it too look really nice and not all ghetto like it does now..

Thanks! :)
HipKat
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The soundbar/sub is a pickup, also, not a delivery
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Built For Comfort - Omar & the Howlers
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On a Bicycle Built for Two [originally "Daisy Bell"] - Nat King Cole
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The House That Built Me - Miranda Lambert
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Our House - Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young
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Our House - Madness
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No idea what improvements might be involved.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
long_time_Dish
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin
Almighty1
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.
I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.
navychop
it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner

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it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner
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Oh....you were serious
Almighty1
So after some heavy research, it looks like the issue I mentioned with the DISH 50.0/52.0/54.x remotes where on the 50.0/52.0 remotes, the dedicated TV Power button or on the 54.x remotes where it is using the TV button on the side followed by Power works correctly on a Hopper 3 which runs Linux but not on a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 which are Android TV (ATV) has to do with the Android TV software itself. In all instances, the remotes had always sent out a dual RF and Infrared signal when the TV Power signal is sent from the remote. The Hopper 3 without the Plus would ignore the incoming RF power packet signal which is identified as a TV-specific toggle event, and does not trigger a system-wide standby state. The Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 as Android TV devices initially worked the same way as well up to sometime in 2025 as there was the legacy pass-through mode in the original software versions used since the Hopper Plus/Joey 4/Wireless Joey 4 launch, the receiver's underlying software essentially ignored the secondary RF payload that the 50.0/52.0/54.x remotes blasted out whenever the TV Power signal was sent. The Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 recognized it was a TV-specific command and discarded the RF packet, letting the standalone IR signal do its job on the tv.

When the software for the Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 were updated in 2025 and newer versions of the software for those Android TV (ATV) devices, it overhauled how the receiver handles remote commands to tighter integrate the Android TV environment which resulted in the software starting to treat any RF power toggle payload as a global command. As the newer software verion(s) no longer filters out the concurrent RF blast from the 50.0/52.0/54.0 remotes, the moment one sends a TV Power signal from the remote, the Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 catches that unintended RF payloadand interpets it as a command to drop the system into standby.

The fix is really simple since the Android TV (ATV) software for the Hopper Plus, Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4 just needs to be programmed to drop or ignore the specific RF power packets associated with the TV Power signal sequence.

brittanygarden and Rick Durham
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dfergie
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Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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harshness
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.
dishstaller
Diesel is all over the place around here. Saw it yesterday from $5.37 to $6.17...not sure what the obsession was with ending in 7
dfergie
$4.09 - $4.29, real gas $4.69...
harshness
I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.
It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.
Foxbat
It turns out I was justified in my suspicion.

Gavin Newsom somehow authorized the temporary move of the distribution date of the Winter blend to September 28th.
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.
Bobby
Does that raise, or lower, the overall price? Our State Government has been doing everything it can to minimize the impact of the current situation and put a freeze on the State Taxes on fuel sales at the pump. That's why we're still under $4.00/gal. while across the border in Michigan it's much higher.
Winter blend is cheaper than Summer blend.
jokeworm
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Ok, I'm bored .... actually - to be more precise - I'm bored of eating the same rotation of 9 or 10 meals that are currently my "go-to" meals. My wife works the long hours - I work from home as and when i feel like it ... which means i generally do most of the cooking ... and so by default - i also make out the shopping list ...

We cook at home 5 or even 6 nights a week - but we always seem to fall back on the same old tried and tested "quick and easy but tastes ok" meals. Week in week out.

Pot Roast - mash and Peas.
Spaghetti
Chicken Pasta in cheese sauce.
Curry & rice
(these are some of mine)

Now it's not that I'm not adventurous in the kitchen ... I'll try anything once or twice ... but we all do it. Unless your name is Martha Stewart or Rachel Ray .. we all eventually fall back on our 8-10 favorite "meals"

So i thought - if we shared some of our own go-to meals with each other ... we might be able to add a few "new" ones to our own arsenal of meals.

So again - I ask you ...

What's for dinner tonight ?

Please give me something new to add to my rotation ... its our weekly shop tomorrow - so i want to pull together a few idea's and try and eat a meal each day next week that I've never had before .. or at least something that is not on my current "go-to" meal plan.

What meal do you always seem to fall back on in your house ? Maybe its something that I've never tried or not had in a while. I need inspiration !! I've got a blank shopping list in front of me - and nothing sounds good .. HELP !
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Chili Cheesebugers, Tater Tots.
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I made shrimp parmesan with spaghetti and a salad.
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venison lasagna
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Smoked some salmon on the grill while enjoying some Blue Moon beer. Kinda cool tonight so I fired up the heaters. Here in FL, we fire up heaters once the temps get below 60 :cool As for the salmon, I seared them first, then flipped them off to the side not over the coals and brushed on some lemon pepper marinade followed by some salmon seasoning. Threw some hickory chips on the coals and then closed the vents to about 10% airflow. Yum.
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TRG
Light dinner tonight before fasting for blood-work tomorrow. Salad and a half turkey sandwich. Water.
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
rvvaquero
I guess even the patience of us laid-back Hoosiers has its limits:
Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.
Foxbat
Jeeez, Week 6, no lead is safe…
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Be nice to see a Cowboy headline like that.
Yes the Cowboys owner needs to fire the general manager (himself), co-owner, Chief Operating Officer (COO), Executive Vice President, Director of Player Personnel, and President of AT&T Stadium (his son) and then he should jump off of a cliff. Only then can they recover.
rvvaquero
Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson had an argument about who was responsible for the dynasty building of the early 90's Cowboys.

The rest of us figured it out in about 3 years, Jerry has had over 30 years but still can't admit it. It's all he lives for, to show everyone he can put together a winner. I don't think he can. His kids only know what he taught them.
dfergie
I was a devout Cowboy fan in the Landry era, grudgingly gave Jimmy his due, since then not so much, the Jones family took care of that...
b4pjoe
Nice knowing you Brian…

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dfergie
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Last reply · posted in What's Cooking?
Anyone making their own breakfast sausage? I've recently been trying different recipes, found some I like, some I've modified...
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navychop
Bob Evans Sage.
R
Bob Evans Sage.
I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.
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I will look, but I don't think I have seen it. Owen's breakfast sausage use to be favorite, but I can't find it anymore. Jimmy Dean's country mild is OK also when I can find it.
Kroger stores carry Bob Evans Sage Sausage. For me that means Smiths.

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Kroger stores carry Bob Evans Sage Sausage. For me that means Smiths.

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No Kroger's near me. I live in the heart of Walmart land. The only option besides Walmart is Harp's.
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TRG
I live in the heart of Walmart land.
My deepest condolences.
R
My deepest condolences.
Surprisingly I moved here from the Gulf Coast due to the heat. But it has been hotter here due to the heat domes than it did down there.
S
make homemade dog food to :)