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Is there any value in a General Instrument HDD201 HD Decoder?

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DC 2 HD is fantastic looking. But people migrate over to pizza like the second coming thinking that their HD lite is the cats meow. Although that is a fallacy as anyone with a FTA HD receiver knows. As pizza goes down in quality prices increase. So Mr mainstream keep supplying pizza with it's monthly fix of cash and soon a 240 line resolution picture will be the norm at $100 a month. Some are smart and won't bite at that.

I hear Charlie is up to his old tricks again possibly dumping ESPN on Dish Network. This will sit well with the sports fans. Those who know where the backhaul sports feeds are can find most of them ITC in beautiful HD. Very few have this information though and blind scanning will not find them. The broadcasters have gotten smart and use tricks that don't let greenhorns find them. Those with inside information though know better. And this information is not posted in any forums even hidden area's.

There is more HD in the big dish sky than ever before if you know how to play the game :) May not be a DC 2 encrypted channel but plenty others. Keeping a HDD 200 though will provide you some beautiful HD here and there.
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DC 2 HD is fantastic looking. But people migrate over to pizza like the second coming thinking that their HD lite is the cats meow. Although that is a fallacy as anyone with a FTA HD receiver knows. As pizza goes down in quality prices increase. So Mr mainstream keep supplying pizza with it's monthly fix of cash and soon a 240 line resolution picture will be the norm at $100 a month. Some are smart and won't bite at that.

I hear Charlie is up to his old tricks again possibly dumping ESPN on Dish Network. This will sit well with the sports fans. Those who know where the backhaul sports feeds are can find most of them ITC in beautiful HD. Very few have this information though and blind scanning will not find them. The broadcasters have gotten smart and use tricks that don't let greenhorns find them. Those with inside information though know better. And this information is not posted in any forums even hidden area's.

There is more HD in the big dish sky than ever before if you know how to play the game :) May not be a DC 2 encrypted channel but plenty others. Keeping a HDD 200 though will provide you some beautiful HD here and there.

The problem is, when I sit down at the end of a long day, the last thing I want to do is get on the internet or scan a bunch of satellites for an occasional free channel. TV is TV, just like it is for most people. and it revolves around me, not me around it. HD is nice to have but far from my #1 priority. I would rather watch the local channels in 240i than watch HBO in high def. Oh, that's right, H2H doesn't have HBO, or nothing high def.

And since the broadcasters hide channels from greenhorns like me, then HD Direct TV sounds like the way to go. It's simple & easy to use for dumb people like me. Direct TV HD may not have as clear a picture as your HD but it is slightly sharper than H2H, at least from what I've seen.

And since it requires inside information that is not allowed for dumb people like me to get, I guess you've sold me to run my dozer over this HD reciever, cancel my H2H subscription & go with Direct.
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I guess you've sold me to run my dozer over this HD reciever, cancel my H2H subscription & go with Direct.

If you want to take your HDD 200 and toss it out a window I could care less. Cancel H2H no skin off my teeth. Get the biggest package Direct has with all the toys and pay $250 or more a month if thats your prerogative. It don't effect me one way or another. I will keep doing what I do and you can bow to the pizza savior if that's your thing. It's not mine, we all do what we want in the end anyway no matter what anyone says.

Lets see $250 x 12 = $3000 a year for pizza over compressed programming with toys. I don't know... I could do a lot for my big dish hobby and have quite a bit left over for that 3k a year.
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Lets see $250 x 12 = $3000 a year for pizza over compressed programming with toys. I don't know... I could do a lot for my big dish hobby and have quite a bit left over for that 3k a year.

I have never yet been quoted it will cost me $250.00/mo by any satellite or cable company & personally don't know anybody, not friends, neighbors or family that pay that much. In fact, I personally don't know anybody who pays much over a $85.00/mo. If you pay $250.00/month, I'd say you probably asked for it.
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In fact, I personally don't know anybody who pays much over a $85.00/mo.

I do not know anyone with a bill less than $85./mo. other than new subscribers!
That is a lot of dough! Pizza dough that is! ;)
After the promotion runs out then they get the royal $crew job! :eek:

Most people accept pizza and its shortcomings as the only way to get TV especially when it comes to purchasing a package to get their otherwise free local OTA channels. The extra toppings like movie channels, sports packs, porn, PPV, extra receivers, DVRs all add up and people keep loading that pizza up! I cannot figure out why so many people with loaded pizza go out to watch movies at the theater every weekend! :confused:

Here at SatelliteGuys most here have the knowledge what is available and how to get it either at best quality, most quantity and/or affordable. If you do not have the knowledge then it can be found somewhere in the many category choices here. A quality or a quantity comparison should not have to end up in a all out food fight either! ;)

I am not one of the "dough boy$" and I stay out of the pizza kitchen and spend most of my time on 4DTV, FTA and OTA areas. I am amazed on how much pizza gets dropped on the 4DTV floor!!! Let's clean it up! It seems like every 4DTV thread has pizza sass! Do the pizza areas all include 4DTV??? :rolleyes:
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I do not know anyone with a bill less than $85./mo. other than new subscribers!
That is a lot of dough! Pizza dough that is! ;)
After the promotion runs out then they get the royal $crew job! :eek:

Most people accept pizza and its shortcomings as the only way to get TV especially when it comes to purchasing a package to get their otherwise free local OTA channels. The extra toppings like movie channels, sports packs, porn, PPV, extra receivers, DVRs all add up and people keep loading that pizza up! I cannot figure out why so many people with loaded pizza go out to watch movies at the theater every weekend! :confused:

Here at SatelliteGuys most here have the knowledge what is available and how to get it either at best quality, most quantity and/or affordable. If you do not have the knowledge then it can be found somewhere in the many category choices here. A quality or a quantity comparison should not have to end up in a all out food fight either! ;)

I am not one of the "dough boy$" and I stay out of the pizza kitchen and spend most of my time on 4DTV, FTA and OTA areas. I am amazed on how much pizza gets dropped on the 4DTV floor!!! Let's clean it up! It seems like every 4DTV thread has pizza sass! Do the pizza areas all include 4DTV??? :rolleyes:

Good post Dan. I hate to say it but the pizza virus is spreading to more big dish forums. It killed satforums and now its over here at satellite guys. It going take to turn for the worse here which will cause big dish people to stay away. IMO the pizza guys have caused muting of 4DTV Map Master progress over here. I was going to keep posting updates here and even make the program downloadable at satguys but that won't happen now. I have been told that satguys got complaints about it and removed my link to the new MM forum. It's sad to see that Satellite guys don't want to be included in the release. The downward trend to good big dish happenings continue. It seems they rather would allow the pizza guys to do there pizza glory work, but it is what it is. The Big Dish will always rule with no pizza control ever at the places I run. :)
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There has been a helluva lotta pizza stuff on the floor in this area lately, and now it's running down the walls too! :eek: Funny thing about it, is I don't see ANY C-band parts laying around in the pizza sections! :D

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There has been a helluva lotta pizza stuff on the floor in this area lately, and now it's running down the walls too! :eek: Funny thing about it, is I don't see ANY C-band parts laying around in the pizza sections! :D

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Good post Dan. I hate to say it but the pizza virus is spreading to more big dish forums. It killed satforums and now its over here at satellite guys. It going take to turn for the worse here which will cause big dish people to stay away. IMO the pizza guys have caused muting of 4DTV Map Master progress over here. I was going to keep posting updates here and even make the program downloadable at satguys but that won't happen now. I have been told that satguys got complaints about it and removed my link to the new MM forum. It's sad to see that Satellite guys don't want to be included in the release. The downward trend to good big dish happenings continue. It seems they rather would allow the pizza guys to do there pizza glory work, but it is what it is. The Big Dish will always rule with no pizza control ever at the places I run. :)


You do realize that DBS or "pizza" as you like to call it was not even mentioned in this thread until post 19, which was your post? I am certainly no fan of what has become of C-Band. I wish that GI/Motorola, Drake, Chaparral, and others had continued to support it. It would be great if we could get the master feeds and have a HD DVR receiver capable of getting the DCII and PowerVu channels. But it is what it is, and it is not going to happen. If someone wants cable type programming today, they have to get it from cable, if you can get cable, the telephone company, if your telecom offers it, or from DBS. If you will go to the real C-Band forum on this site, and the other FTA areas there is hardly any mention of "pizza" so you cant say that SatelliteGuys is running off FTA hobbyist. Probably the reason there is mention of it in the 4DTV area is that there is still a small contingent of subscription based channels left available through 4DTV for the time being. If you are happy with H2H that is good, I am happy for you. But you really should not carry such a chip on your shoulder about DBS. What I am saying is, you are providing incorrect information about $250 per month prices for the packages, and that DirecTV extends your commitment without telling you, etc... If someone is asking about the difference in H2H and DirecTV or Dish Network it is fine to sell "your" service, just be fair about it. I am sure that the H2H SD picture quality is better than DirecTV, but for what you get the price seems inflated. I realize that there are only a few subscribers left to carry the burden though. And I agree with you that the HD picture from most C-Band feeds I have ever seen exceeds that of what DirecTV and Dish carry, but their HD picture is perfectly watchable and look quite good, I would have to give the slight edge to DirecTV. Anyway, my point is SatelliteGuys is not all about "pizza" and they are not trying to push FTA hobbyist and C-Banders out the door in any way.
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:eek:GEE Whiz, Kids, this post was about a HDD 201 decoder. Looks like what is really needed here is a staff member to close it before someone chokes someone.:eek:

:eek:Help STAFF MEMBER!:eek:

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Mexico takes on South Africa to open the World Cup Final (it is called the Final... this just isn't the World Cup Final... Final). The tournament has been plagued with rife malfeasance as FIFA has been committing all sorts of fraud with the ticket sales. Hotel rooms have gone unfilled as the prices to attend a game and stay somewhere are through the roof. I swear this is impacting Mansfield, OH hotel rates which are higher than average for the Indycar race. And there is a broadening VAR presence which will ruin things as nothing worse now when scoring a goal and knowing you can't quite celebrate yet as they check to see if a player was offside by a pixel a half-hour ago.

The Group Stage used to mean something, but now 32 of the 48... yeah, 48 teams are going to the Knockout Round. Getting into the Knockout Round used to be a big deal, even for the US. But now... if you don't lose all of your group stage games, you get to move on. Oi! And this is avoiding all the political stuff!

I have never been so unexcited for a World Cup before. Every game used to matter. But FIFA be darned if they don't try to squeeze out every dime they can out of the players, refs, and fans.
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Anybody been following the Tournaments? I've been watching all weekend on the various ESPN's...
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Not a good inning… Kavan coming on could be the nail.
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Better team won tonight…
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Well crap. That wasn't fun. Oh well on to the CFL opener on cbs sportsnet.
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Last weekend I got in on a MLB game top of the 8th 1-1, first thought was extra innings... :D and it actually went extra after the 9th.
Catching a little of the AUSL, something to watch when I can't get into anything else.
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Caught up to the 500... err... k in St. Louis. What a race! Andretti Motorsport were doing very well with Ericsson and Kirkwood, meanwhile Power was moving up the grid. Veekay started cautiously. He was working the tires just right, becoming more lethal later in the stint. Rasmussen was racing likewise, not nearly as insane as he has in the past. Palou was leading the race, in a shocker to all. Caio Collet was having a wonderful ride, making Ferucci potentially sweat a bit. Rain came, rain went, rain came, rain went. Generally mild sprinkles, but enough to pause racing on an oval.

Palou would kind of send Siegel into the wall. Siegel really didn't do much wrong. As he noted, you have to turn at some point. Palou had acres of room below and Siegel might have had his ticket out of Indycar stamped. Dixon was doing the fuel thing and got busted twice by yellows, not pitting before the flag came out. Then the most critical happened... Palou ran out of gas on pit lane, effectively giving Newgarden the race lead and win. Newgarden had a very early pit, so he was able to slide in, get service and go. Meanwhile, everyone else was confused and stuck behind Palou for a bit. Once people figured what was happening, Newgarden had a major advantage of several seconds. Newgarden wouldn't look back and when it went green again, he'd hold the lead for the win.

Massive credit to Juncos Hollinger who bested Penske in getting Veekay out before Malukas in a transition that was oddly bizarre. I haven't had time to check, but I'm wondering if Veekay was about to run out of fuel or cut a tire. He was charging late in a stint, got up to fifth, and then tailed back for a few laps to 10th or 11th. It looked like it was over. Went into the pits, and after the pitting sequence was over, Veekay was well inside the top ten again. It was weird. And he charged, getting up to fourth. He made a late move on Rasmussen, but Rasmussen held his position with some great driving. In fact, there was a ton of incredible racing passing, not passing all race long. Veekay would finish 4th. A podium would have been awesome, but it is a great outcome for a guy who hopefully will get a break with a big team. We saw what Veekay could do with a Honda last season with fuel save, imagine replacing Simpson on Ganassi and having speed to go with fuel saving. His 6th at Indy and 4th at St. Louis get him up to 13th in the points standings and only 5 points outside of the top 10.

Ericsson finished second, resigned to finishing behind the current best in the world guy on a short oval. Rasmussen got the final step on the podium, a nice rebound to what has been an otherwise bad year for him, and a good reward to ECR who just extended his contract.
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They raced USAC cars at Daytona once. Once! People died. Aj Foyt said 'f this', and left after the first go around. AJ freaking Foyt thought it was crazy! And cars weren't nearly as fast as they are now.

I think they tried Talladega once too.
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LeMans qualifying on going. WEC has d9ne a great job expanding the automotive company entries. Even without Porsche, a large nunber of manufacturers.
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Last reply · posted in DIRECTV Programming Forum
So...DirecTV advertises the Choice package with 95+ bonus channels for Satellite customers. You don't want 90+ of the 95...

Excluding PPV, premium networks, infomercial, shopping, religion, and non-English programming, there are 7 channels on satellite that are not on streaming:
NFL Network, MavTV, FE TV, Free Speech, NASA, INSP, and Pursuit. I'm pretty sure a couple of those are public interest that they have to carry to meet an FCC quota on satellite.

I hope they get called out for this advertising because that is ridiculous. One big network, NFL, will probably get added to streaming when their next agreement comes up, and the rest are likely very low viewership.

What about streaming, what do you get extra with the Choice package that isn't on Satellite:
Two stations - one of which is an internet TV - Fox Weather, and Heros & Icons (a diginet). Nothing special here to look at either.

If they cleaned up a couple of their agreements, added a few public interest stations to streaming, they could probably have their lineups match. It's close now, if you take out all the garbage on satellite that they earn money on. If they can sell infomercials on satellite, why can't they on streaming, seems like a miss. A bigger miss, including those stations in the "bonus channels just for satellite customers." Pretty sad marketing right there.

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Attached is a comparison sheet of satellite vs streaming for the three main packages if anyone is interested.

MOD EDIT: See Post #3 for an up to date list of what channels are available on sat but not on streaming/internet, see Post #21 for an up to date list of what's available in the app for streaming customers, but not for sat customers.
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107 LIVE4K3 and 108 LIVE4K4 are now testing on the stream server
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107 LIVE4K3 and 108 LIVE4K4 are now testing on the stream server
Happy to see that DTV Stream will finally line up fully with the DTV Satellite 4K content and Channel Guide.
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107 LIVE4K3 and 108 LIVE4K4 are now testing on the stream server
They turned them on today !
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They turned them on today !
I see in the 4K Channels Guide that the Telemundo WC games will be airing in 4K. I believe this is the first time ever we will have Spanish-language broadcasts in 4K (in the USA). Did not happen during the last World Cup in Qatar 2022.
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4K telemundo working !

406 still SD here in Norfolk Va 📡
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


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An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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Hello everyone, new guy here. I'm trying to solve problem I'm having with Dish bonus view channels. When I'm watching the bonus view channels then I switch back to regular dish channels, after few minutes the screen flips to black and after 30 seconds flips back to regular channels and continues to flip back and forth until I turn off TV. After I wait 30 minutes and turn back on , I can use regular channels again. So, its after I switch from bonus view channels to regular dish channels the problem starts. Been trying to fix this for a month, but no luck
Here what I've done.
i contacted Dish support and they sent me a new Joey3, but no help. Switched to a different HDMI input on TV, no help. Used different HDMI cable , no help. Used different electrical wall plug, no help.
Finally got a Dish tech to check it. He ran all systems check and was OK. Finally he brought in a small TV and plugged in the HDMI out from the Joey to the small TV. He could not get the problem to occur on his small TV, so the new Joey was working OK. So, then the problem must be myTV. He made some phone calls and came back with the answer that there must be a problem with the analog to digital switch in my TV. Has anyone ever heard of a problem like this, or is it time to be looking for a new TV? My tv LG OLED65C8PUA. TV has been trouble free til now. Thanks
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