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Reality TV hitches its star to the art world

By Randy Kennedy, The New York Times
March 4, 2005

NEW YORK - It came long ago to the worlds of music (American Idol), moviemaking (Project Greenlight) and fashion design (Project Runway).

Now reality television is tackling the art world, one of the last creative frontiers still unvisited by the genre's camera crews, harsh judges and hordes of contestants hoping to turn a little fame into a lucrative career.

"In the 1970s when I started in the art world, no self-respecting artist would have stood in line to try to get on a television show," said Jeffrey Deitch, whose gallery, Deitch Projects, is helping create an art-reality show called Artstar. "It never would have happened."

But standing behind him on the streets of SoHo as he spoke on a recent early Monday morning were about 300 artists, most self-respecting and shivering in the cold, lined up down one block of Wooster Street, around the corner along Grand Street and around another corner along Greene Street. They were carrying all manner of art: canvases, drawings, sculptures, slides and photographs, as well as television screens and computers to show off video and performance art.

Two artists had camped out in sleeping bags to be first in line. Another was dressed as a doctor, in a white lab coat with a stethoscope draped around his neck. An artist collective at the back of the line hid inside a huge foam-rubber head on wheels, with a cigarette the size of a baseball bat jutting from its mouth.

"Is this the line for Aerosmith tickets?" one of the artists inside the head asked mockingly.

The long line led into a cavernous gallery where artists would be given a few precious moments to show their work to a panel of judges, including Deitch, and compete for one of eight spots on the show, which is being made as a pilot and will include seven more episodes if it is picked up.

The pilot was being made for Voom HD, a high-definition satellite network whose fate appears uncertain, but Artstar's creators say they will present it to other networks.

The artists who are selected will be given a group show at Deitch Projects. And in the true spirit of reality television, one could emerge as the big winner and be given a solo show at the gallery, which has shown such established art stars as Mariko Mori and Jeff Koons.

The reality show's producers - Abby Terkuhle, a former MTV executive; James Fuentes, an art dealer; and Christopher Sperandio, an artist - say it is not their intention to impose the tropes of reality television on the show. The artists who are chosen will not be forced to live together in a loft or perform competitive art stunts or cry on camera.

"There's no hot tub here," said Sperandio, sitting in the Deitch Projects Gallery, on Wooster Street, surrounded by giant Keith Haring sculptures.

But the artists probably will end up collaborating on a project for Deitch and also receiving instruction and criticism (some of it no doubt scathing) from curators, critics and established artists.

Whether this will make for good television or good art is anybody's guess, and the show's creators are frank about that uncertainty. At the show's Web site (www.artstar.tv) the creators pose the same questions that many will be asking of them as the project moves ahead:

• Are there artists who can make new works under the scrutiny of high-definition television cameras?

• Can the results of such a process yield a vital gallery-based exhibition?

• Will Artstar yield serial television that is in any way watchable?

"Our intent with this show is to do something both credible and compelling," said Terkuhle, who helped bring Beavis and Butt-head to MTV. "Credible in the art world and, hopefully, compelling to a television audience."

But he added that it remained "a television experiment, and that's how we're approaching it, very openly."

Some people in the art world have strong doubts about this experiment.

"Perhaps it will be a brilliant critique of the reality TV phenomenon," wrote one Brooklyn artist, who calls himself T. Whid, at his Web site, www.mteww.com. "Perhaps it will subtly explore the nuances of the life of a working artist in NYC or the nuances of different artists' creative processes."

Then he added: "I doubt it. It will be just a bunch of desperate artists doing their best 'to flatter' art world honchos as they watch their dignity being stabbed out like a stale cigarette."

But many of the artists who were braving the icy wind on Wooster Street said that if trying to break into the art world through television was a little silly, it was no sillier than many of the other ways artists try to attract attention in the highly competitive New York art world.

"It's so much about luck," said Arnulfo Toro, 28, who recently quit a job working as a painter for Jeff Koons' studio, where he said he was dissatisfied by the pay. "You can be really bad and get the go-ahead and be really good and go nowhere. We all need a godfather to give us a start."

Neither Toro nor his friend, Peter Knutson, 30, a sculptor, made the cut to a group of semifinalists.

For a few lucky artists, the bitter cold, the long line and the indignities of the cattle call paid off, at least until the next cut. Adam Krueger, 22, had lugged a huge hallucinatory painting all the way to the gallery on the subway, with his girlfriend's help. When he left, he struggled down Wooster Street with it, the wind trying to turn it into a sail. But he was accepted into the group of 32 semifinalists.

Other work did not fare so well. Shadowed by camera crews and boom microphones while he moved rapidly from one artist's table to another, Fuentes paused in front of a group of canvases covered with gold and silver figures, including Jesus and Jean-Michel Basquiat. The artist explained, "I did Basquiat because he's more of an inspiration to me than Jesus Christ, really."

Fuentes nodded and smiled politely. "Awesome," he said.

The artist did not make the cut.

Copyright 2005, Rocky Mountain News. All Rights Reserved.
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This is great news! In The New York Times yet!

Still enjoying HDTV under mostly cloudy Seattle skies, Gill
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We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Garlic cheese bread
Green beans
Apples
Chocolate Milk
Some weird noodles. ;)
(They have salad and a couple other fruits if wanted)
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Club sandwich and corn chowder. Iced tea.
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Chili dog bowl, water… (homemade chili)
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Leftover wanton soup and pork fried rice. Water.
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I Wanna Talk About Me - Toby Keith
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I'm Easy - Keith Carridine
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It's Easy - Boston
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Lately my eight year old Dell laptop has been shutting off even when I have a full battery. I have had to keep it plugged up all the time to keep this from happening. Any idea what is causing this? I replaced the battery about three years ago.
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A recalibration might be needed. Even if it shows full, the individual cells may have become unbalaced. And the BMS chip in the battery reports false information to the pc.
Try this. Start it up in the bios/uefi and leave it there until the battery dies and it shuts off.
It might just keep running longer than in Windows. Or run for a short while and shut off.
If it's the first case. Probably just needs a balancing. If the latter, the pack might just be dead.
Not throwing stones but perhaps just a cheaply constructed battery with substandard cells. Could be.

Patience. Keep restarting it in bios/uefi until it won't fire up anymore.
Then plug the charger in and let it complete a full charge. And see what happens. If it's better.
Do the same thing one more time. Run it until it dies dead-dead. Then just let it charge, pc shut off.
When charged, it might be better. It might not be.

There are bench jigs that read the actual BMS and override it to let a tech manually monitor and charge the separate packs. They can also reset any "time bombs" in it that cause an otherwise good pack to show bad.
Maybe Santa will be good to me some year.

You might just need a new battery. Maybe the PC power management chip is going. A Dell common thing.
Leaving a laptop plugged in with a full battery is known to reduce the life. Asus for one recommends that you don't leave the charger plugged in all of the time even when shut down. And setting Windows to charge the battery to 85% instead of 100% increases life.
That's all I got.
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That was quite enough....I definitely learned something from your post. Thanks
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.
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I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
They are not. Your best bet is to set up a third-party router, attached to the Starlink for your server, that you can get into, like a Linksys, etc
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…it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.
The Starlink V5 Install Kit I just got comes with the Mini Router. It is pretty limited in what it can do. For example, it can provide only one IP subnet at a time, no Guest Network, but it does support the pass-thru to a third-party Router. You can also split the Wi-Fi into separate 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz SSIDs to help some IoT devices that don't support 5 GHz bands to work.

The larger Starlink Router that still comes with the V4 Kit does support a Guest Network with separate IPv4 Subnet, but it's $120 from Starlink. And it still won't do DHCP Reservations.
harshness
If you can restrict the DHCP address space to assign addresses to one end of the subnet (i.e. x.x.x.50+), you can manually assign the IP address on pretty much any operating system. This is a default behavior on several popular routers. As the Router Mini only supports 235 devices, I expect that's already done.

Another option is to use a router that supports PoE to power the antenna. This article discusses that option (under PoE Power heading):

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Now that I've had the v5 kit with the Mini Router, it's not as bad as I first thought. Yes, no DHCP reservations, but you can set up multiple SSIDs that have separate IPv4 subnets, and like the big brother, you can select from 192.168.x.0/24 or 10.x.0.0/16 (where "x" is 1-4).

You can also split a subnet and have different SSIDs for the 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz channels to handle some IoT devices. I haven't discovered what subnet the 2nd NIC on the router assigns, I'm guessing it's the first subnet.
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Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.
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Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

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Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.
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Thought this article might be of interest to some of you who might travel via train.