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Hi Guys,

Long time lurker, first time poster. Thanks for all the useful info in this forum!

I am interested in your opinion on switching to U-Verse from Dish. Basically my main motivation is $. I currently have At&T DSL and would like the U-Verse speed. I can get a much better deal if I take their TV service as well. I currently pay 145$ per month for Dish and I can get AT&T TV plus Net for 145 / month total which saves me about 40$ per month over my Dish plus AT&T internet cost.

I have been happy with Dish (had them for 4 years) and have had no service problems but its just so pricey.

My number one concern about switching to U-Verse is picture quality. The PQ on Dish is acceptable and really enjoy the ability to record OTA which has an excellent PQ. I can see a difference in quality between OTA and Dish and from what I hear U-Verse quality is not as good as Dish and I will loose OTA recording. I also don't really want to go through the process of setting up an entire new tv service.

Any one have an opinion on the U-Verse service? Also do you think Dish would be willing to offer me a better deal on my service? My U-Verse install isn't for another week so I have time to think about it.

Thanks!
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dishcomm
Attention folks...When you buy internet from a phone company, you must also buy phine service. Typical basic phone service can run $30 per month. SO that $24.99 promo price for 12mbps internet is really well over $50....And once the promo expires....WOW!! Could be over $70.....
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Attention folks...When you buy internet from a phone company, you must also buy phine service. Typical basic phone service can run $30 per month. SO that $24.99 promo price for 12mbps internet is really well over $50....And once the promo expires....WOW!! Could be over $70.....
Um, That used to be the case 5-6 years ago but not anymore. Most phone companies offer DSL/internet only options now. What phone company do you have?
gludwick
Probably too late to help original poster.
I just went thru this whole process. Uverse is definitely a better value (more channels, lower price) even at their regular pricing. With promo pricing and $250 cash back it's a GREAT deal.

IF....IF....the tech side is up to par. Mine was not.

My house is 6000 ft from the VRAD distribution point. According to several ATT tech folks (and I met about 6 of them the 2 weeks I had the service) anything past 4500 ft and the video data stream getsl flakey. Start getting a lot of little hiccups/picture stutter and freezes.

They did install their system and leave my dish setup intact...so with a little hdmi switching I could A/B compare the two video signals. At my location the uverse signal just wasn't as good as the Dish signal...but in a thunderstorm it didn't disappear either!

I kept uverse for 2 weeks and then cancelled. I have no complaints with ATT service - they tried their darndest . ATT offers 30 day money back guarantee, so it cost me nothing to check it out. The DSL part of the package is WAY better than my old ATT ADSL. Rock steady consistent speed. My olds POTS ADSL was up and down speed wise all over the place. So I kept the uverse optical fiber dsl and they even gave me a special deal on a speed upgrade (12mpbs) for my trouble.

Bottom line. DO NOT cancel dish before you've seen what Uverse looks like at your house. Could turn out to be an expensive mistake. But if you're inside that 4500 ft range of the VRAD, you'll likely find Uverse superior in terms of both picture and value. I wish it had worked out for me.

Good luck!:)
whatchel1
Probably too late to help original poster.
I just went thru this whole process. Uverse is definitely a better value (more channels, lower price) even at their regular pricing. With promo pricing and $250 cash back it's a GREAT deal.

IF....IF....the tech side is up to par. Mine was not.

My house is 6000 ft from the VRAD distribution point. According to several ATT tech folks (and I met about 6 of them the 2 weeks I had the service) anything past 4500 ft and the video data stream getsl flakey. Start getting a lot of little hiccups/picture stutter and freezes.

They did install their system and leave my dish setup intact...so with a little hdmi switching I could A/B compare the two video signals. At my location the uverse signal just wasn't as good as the Dish signal...but in a thunderstorm it didn't disappear either!

I kept uverse for 2 weeks and then cancelled. I have no complaints with ATT service - they tried their darndest . ATT offers 30 day money back guarantee, so it cost me nothing to check it out. The DSL part of the package is WAY better than my old ATT ADSL. Rock steady consistent speed. My olds POTS ADSL was up and down speed wise all over the place. So I kept the uverse optical fiber dsl and they even gave me a special deal on a speed upgrade (12mpbs) for my trouble.

Bottom line. DO NOT cancel dish before you've seen what Uverse looks like at your house. Could turn out to be an expensive mistake. But if you're inside that 4500 ft range of the VRAD, you'll likely find Uverse superior in terms of both picture and value. I wish it had worked out for me.

Good luck!:)
It's very rare that anyone ever says the PQ is better on U-Verse. In fact this may be the 1st I've read.
KAB
KAB
I'd say at least 9 out of 10 say it's worse. Every once in a great while will you hear otherwise.
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Um, That used to be the case 5-6 years ago but not anymore. Most phone companies offer DSL/internet only options now. What phone company do you have?

Um, That used to be the case 5-6 years ago but not anymore. Most phone companies offer DSL/internet only options now. What phone company do you have?
My last post seemed mean. It was just a suggestion. I've paid promo DSL prices for the past few years AND got more for less. Just call billing, ask for the retention dept. Either say X comp any has the same promo price and you rather not cancel (which is true). If the FIRST CSR won't budge 9 / 10 they will, retry. I did this for the third time for somebody the other day. The first person said I had to be a new customer, while I had no problems the second time.
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Thanks for everyones replies. I went to the ATT store that is down the street and checked out U-Verse tv. Didn't really care for the interface but the deal breaker was the picture quality. They had Direct TV running side by side with U-Verse and there was just no comparison. Local channels looked really poor. Am sticking with Dish!
3HaloODST
Thanks for everyones replies. I went to the ATT store that is down the street and checked out U-Verse tv. Didn't really care for the interface but the deal breaker was the picture quality. They had Direct TV running side by side with U-Verse and there was just no comparison. Local channels looked really poor. Am sticking with Dish!

Good choice. I had U-verse TV for 7 months, couldn't stand the bad HD PQ, tiny and slow DVR, clunky featureless interface, fact that it would slow down my Internet, TV stream limit, etc. ... The list goes on and on.
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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gms49ers
Dancing Days - Led Zeppelin
dishstaller
Dancing in the Street - Van Halen
long_time_Dish
Bakers Street - Gerry Rafferty
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Bobby
Bakers Street - Gerry Rafferty
Let me fix that for you:
Baker Street - Gerry Rafferty
EatMyVolts
The 59th Street Bridge Song -- Simon & Garfunkel
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Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.
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primestar31
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
star trek GIF


It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
navychop
I truly hope you are right.
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Mister B
What bothers me is the total waste of broadcasting spectrum in this very crowded market. It has been almost three years now since KFOX converted their broadcast tower to ATSC 3.0 and moved all of their channels to other towers causing noticeable degradation of the picture quality.
I have a Sony TV with 3.0 capabilities but still use the 1.0 version of locals due to the fact that one or all of the 3.0 channels are often missing or unwatchable. In this city of 800K I doubt that more than a few hundred even know about ATSC 3.0.
The only thing that could motivate me to be interested in 3.0 would be if all of the minor networks (diginets) could be in at least 720P rather than blurry ultra-compressed 480i.
Three years is long enough to waste one of the few available RF frequencies in the area for this trial.
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.
navychop
In this city of 800K I doubt that more than a few hundred even know about ATSC 3.0.

They might notice the hand going into their pocket for their wallet.
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navychop
It is time to either move on with this experiment or call it quits.

QFT. Of course, my preference involves a curb and some kicking.
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star trek GIF


It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
WHAT ABOUT THE INTERNET PART OF IT. NO ONE WANTS A BOX CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET EITHER.
TRG
TRG
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dishdude
It's probably been 2 decades since I've listened to an AM radio station. Very rarely listen to FM any more.
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Jimbo
I am 1 that wants the AM to Stay ....
That said, since '08 I have had Sat radio available to me ... I think I have turned on AM 3 or 4 times, just to see if its still there.

Fwiw, if theres a Major disaster or bad weather or whatever, the chances of me finding out about it by going to the AM side of the radio is SLIM and None.
Even FM, I haven't really had on since '13ish, I may turn it on from time to time, just to see if its still there.
harshness
Fwiw, if theres a Major disaster or bad weather or whatever, the chances of me finding out about it by going to the AM side of the radio is SLIM and None.
Automation has seen to that. You can't get evening drive traffic reports where I live, much less disaster reports.
dishstaller
Very rarely listen to FM any more
That goes for a lot of people. I've been advertising on radio for more than a decade now and am very familiar with this subject. While it is still a valuable tool, it has far less impact than it did just a few years ago. The best reaction I get is from a local Country music station....they play a mix of older and newer music and have a very big footprint.
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That goes for a lot of people. I've been advertising on radio for more than a decade now and am very familiar with this subject. While it is still a valuable tool, it has far less impact than it did just a few years ago. The best reaction I get is from a local Country music station....they play a mix of older and newer music and have a very big footprint.
Do you do any Ad's on Satellite ?

If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?
dishstaller
Do you do any Ad's on Satellite ?

If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?
No, just regular FM stations. One is the country station I mentioned and the other is a Talk Radio station which used to get fantastic results but honestly, since the death of Rush Limbaugh, talk radio just doesn't do as well. There were two guys who had an early morning show which was hugely popular here in the southeast but one of them retired a couple years ago and the show just doesn't garner the same numbers as it used to.
S
Haven't listened AM or FM in years
TWiT Tech Podcast Network
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osu1991
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Bobby
Rest in peace.
JSheridan
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I know HipKat said that they were working on conversions but we got the official news yesterday right from Dish that starting next month all DMA's will be on the western arc, and all customers will be assigned to that. That's gonna mean a lot of customers around here aren't gonna get Dish unless there are exceptions. Too many mountains and trees.
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Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
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Jimbo
Even if you are broadcasting old SD-only shows, I would think advertisers would still want their commercials to look good.
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
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Mister B
Advertisers on SD channels are probably Far and Few, very hard to find, they have very few viewers to watch them.
I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
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I watch mostly SD channels (H&I, Start and ION, etc.). There are plenty of advertisers, this time of the year it is mostly Medicare Advantage plans, auto extended warranties and the occasional walk-in-tub. They know who is watching.
can't forget the little blue m&m's
charlesrshell
can't forget the little blue m&m's
That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!
T
Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
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Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
Because he didn't have a fleet of reusable rockets. Starlink works because SpaceX is able to launch hundreds (thousands?) of their Starlink satellites for what a single geostationary Internet satellite costs to build and launch on a disposable launcher.
T
But how is it reusable if it's disposable
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That's what my wife calls my Viagra!!
My gf is 29 years younger than me :shh
Almighty1
Why didn't Charlie end up launching starlink
He does not have the resources aka $$$ compared to Elon Musk as in reality, Elon can eat Charlie for lunch or even mop the floor with Charlie if he wanted to.
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ment to 20 yrs dam phone
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long_time_Dish
Also watched part 2 about a week or so ago after rewatching part 1. It's not as faithful to the book as I was hoping for. Part 1 stayed fairly faithful to the novel, but part 2 took some liberties that I felt were rather excessively non-novel. It looks like a prequel series will happen before part 3. My issue is: there's no prequel that was written as a novel, so what will it be pulled from? Or will it just be "based loosely" on the novel?
K
Also watched part 2 about a week or so ago after rewatching part 1. It's not as faithful to the book as I was hoping for. Part 1 stayed fairly faithful to the novel, but part 2 took some liberties that I felt were rather excessively non-novel. It looks like a prequel series will happen before part 3. My issue is: there's no prequel that was written as a novel, so what will it be pulled from? Or will it just be "based loosely" on the novel?
There is a bunch of other Dune written by Kevin J Anderson and Brian Herbert (Franks son). I think the series in production is taken from one of their books about the Bene Gesserit.
long_time_Dish
There is a bunch of other Dune written by Kevin J Anderson and Brian Herbert (Franks son). I think the series in production is taken from one of their books about the Bene Gesserit.
Correct. I've read all of them (yes, it took awhile, better part of a year, in my spare time). And they can't really consider or classify a series about the Bene Gesserit as a prequel. Sure, I suppose they can call it that, if they want to, because it begins before the time of Paul Atredies, but it's still a stretch. It's a Dune-related novel, not a prequel as we generally think of prequels...
long_time_Dish
Well, it looks good! I just hope they stayed close to the trilogy, but it doesn't look like it.
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