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Finally got my 811 installed on Sunday and have been trying to shake out/identify all of the problems. I know there has been some reports about the darkness, but I only noticed a slight difference between component and s-video.

Here is my hardware/cabling setup and the items I've found, all of which were emailed to Dish Technical support. Did I miss anything? Does anyone know how I can resolve any of my problems?

Here is my hardware configuration:
TV – Sony KP-53HS10 (53" 4:3 screen)
811 connections to Sony:
1. Component video (Y/Pb/Pr) cable between the 811 component output and Video5 component input on the Sony, and RCA audio cable between L/R audio2 output on the 811 to the L/R audio input of Video5 on the Sony.
2. Also have a S-video cable that goes from the S-video port on the 811 to the S-Video input on Video4 of the Sony and an RCA cable from the L/R Audio1 output on the 811 to the L/R audio input of Video4 on the Sony.
OTA Antenna – Channel-Master Stealthtenna (Model 3010) with optional amplifier board available (Model 3038).

Here is a detailed list of items and questions I have encountered so far:

1. - OTA CHANNEL PROGRAMMING INTO THE 811 ISSUE #1. When programming the local analog OTA channels into the 811, in the 'Add ATV' screen, you only have the 'ABC, CBS, & NBC' affiliations. It would be nice to have "FOX, UPN, WB, & PBX' also. This function is not available in the 'Add DTV' option.

2. – OTA CHANNEL PROGRAMMING INTO THE 811 ISSUE #2. When manually adding DTV channels via the 'Local channel setup', I select the 'Add DTV' option. When I enter the local digital numbers into the 'Transmit Channel' box, the 'Channel number' box at the bottom of the screen automatically populates with its analog corresponding number for all of my digital channels except one. My digital channel 26 would not link/map to analog channel 45. After selecting 'Save', I was taken to the screen where you can label the channel with the stations call letters. Once this was done and saved, I was taken back to the channel list screen. All of the digital channels I just entered would display in the list with their local analog number and channel letters that were entered, all except the one channel that wouldn't link/map to its analog channel number during setup. Once I completed the entering of all of my digital (DTV) channels, I saved everything and I brought up the guide. All of my local channels would be displayed in yellow, showing their linked/mapped analog channel number. Please note here that I have tried both the scan method and the manual method to add my local channels to the guide and I am having the same problem either way. Why doesn't the lone channel that won't link/map to the analog number link/map like the rest of the digital channels?

2a. – OTA CHANNEL PROGRAMMING INTO THE 811 ISSUE #2a. After adding the local channels to the guide, if you select one of digital local channels to watch, i.e. 03-01, but then return to the guide, the linked digital channel number is gone. If you scroll through the guide you will find the real digital number there, i.e. 24 KTVK that was entered during setup. This happens to all of my digital channels except two. The local CBS and NBC stations will retain analog channel numbers in the guide. Why isn't this happening to all of the local channels? I would like to be able to map and retain the re-mapping of the digital channels to the analog channel numbers because those are the channel numbers my wife is more familiar with. If this isn't possible, a little consistency would be nice. Have all of the digital channels either display their digital channel number or have them all show their linked/mapped analog number.

3. – CHANNEL RECALL. When watching either of the channels that do retain their local analog numbers in the guide (the CBS (5) & NBC (12) channels) after viewing them, if I press the 'Return' button on the remote, it doesn't go back to the channel I was watching before going to either of these channels. This function works fine with all of the other local channels and satellite channels.

4. - PROGRAM GUIDE ISSUES #1. If you have the 'Partial guide with video' option turned on, when you go to bring up the 'Guide', it takes between 30 and 60 seconds for the video to appear in the window. The message 'Retrieving program information from satellite' message will appear first.

5. - PROGRAM GUIDE ISSUES #2. After viewing OTA channels a long period of time (this varies, but it has happened to me on a few occasions of only 5 minutes), when you try to bring up the 'Guide', you will get 'Acquiring the satellite signal' message. It takes up to 2 minutes before you get the menu. After the menu does pop up, if you have the 'Partial guide with video' option turned on, you are missing the video in the menu for another 30 – 60 seconds. The message 'Retrieving program information from satellite' message is displayed for 20 – 30 seconds before the video appears.

6. - PROGRAM GUIDE ISSUES #3. After bringing up the 'Guide' information, if you move more then 4 hours ahead in the guide, you get the 'Retrieving program information from satellite' message and another 30 – 60 second wait. I thought the guide was suppose to have up to 2 days of information (guess I got spoiled with the 7 days my 501 has).

7. – ZOOM FEATURE PROBLEM/QUESTION. I noticed that when using the partial or full ZOOM option, part of the bottom and top of the video gets chopped off. Is this a problem with the ZOOM feature or is this normal?

7. – CALLER-ID. In the manual, the Caller-ID shows as a pop-up box that is in the center of the screen. The implemented Caller-ID screen is a small box that pops up at the bottom of the screen. Is this the final version of Caller-ID? Will the Caller-ID function ever have the ability to log the calls so you can go back and look at missed calls?

8. – SD/HD REMOTE BUTTON. When will this feature be turned on so I don't have to have both the component video (Y/Pb/Pr) cables and the S-video with RCA audio cables hooked up at the same time? Currently the only way to get a full screen of video when viewing SD video is to have the S-video or RCA video with RCA audio cables from the 811 into another video port on the TV, and then switch to that port. Electronically challenged people like my wife have a problem with things like this.
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811 fix

It sounds like you are having a few problems.
Here are a few fixes.
Go to the add DTV section and punch one of your locked digital channel numbers. Look at the signal strength. It should be in the upper 80's to the 90's. If it is not then you have to rotate the antenna slowly until you have maximum signal. The stealth antenna through personal observation is not very good for HD reception. I find the 8 BAY hd antenna to be a pretty good one but stay away from the TERK brand and the types of antennas that mount on the dish.
Make sure that you line run from the dish is not diplexed. Home run that sucker. Make sure that you check the range identifier for the antenna that you are buying. Also make sure that if your house is 20 miles from the towers that you get an antenna that is good for twice that distance. Also stay away from the batwing antennas. I have found that they do not produce a very good HD signal strength.
Check your signal strength for your receiver as well. Press menu, 6,1,1 and go to satellite 119 transponder 19 and see if your signal is 89 or higher. A weak signal strength will cause guide problems to occur.
If you continue having the 2 days of programming not showing up on the guide then press and hold the power button on the front of the receiver for 15 seconds and release. This will cause the receiver to reboot itself and you guide. (Satremedy)
jerryez
Dish told me that you have to turn off the 811 when not in use to get the guide downloaded. Otherwise you will always get the downloading guide info screen. I use my 811 with my TiVo, so it is never turned off. The TiVo has a better guide anyway, so I just never use the 811 guide, since I never turn the 811 off.
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#7 Caller ID is a pop box in midle of screen when you are in a menu function or the guide. When watching TV it is just the small display at bottom of screen just like ALL other STB's. (you really don't want it interupting your programing, do you?)

#8 The HD/SD button is not needded on the 811 because the 811 has all outputs live at all times. The button is for HD receivers that can only output EITHER HD or SD at one time so they need to be switched to the proper output. SD if watching on an SD set or HD if watching on an HD set. The HD/SD button has nothing to do with the type of programing you're watching.
Scott Greczkowski
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I Can Hear Music - The Beach Boys
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Boom Boom ( Out Go The Lights ) - Pat Travers
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Palisades Park - Freddy "Boom Boom" Cannon
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Cherry Hill Park - Billy Joe Royal
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Lakeside Park - Rush
Bruce
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I was reading this article


That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.


Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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Bruce
And again, 15 months in a row, streaming wins-

Cable and Broadcast added together-36.4%

Streaming with a massive 49.6%, 13.2% higher than Broadcast/Streaming.

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Jimbo
And again, 15 months in a row, streaming wins-

Cable and Broadcast added together-36.4%

Streaming with a massive 49.6%, 13.2% higher than Broadcast/Streaming.

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Your Still Thrilled about all this ?

These numbers will Never be accurate as many people use Both still ...

You have services like Hulu Live and You Tube TV that do, what you call Cable, but they ARE Streaming, so Which is is ?

Does it get counted 2x as both Streaming and Cable ?
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Your Still Thrilled about all this ?

These numbers will Never be accurate as many people use Both still ...
Nobody is "happy" or "sad" about this. Simply posting data in an non-editorialized way has nothing to do with anyone's feelings.

The data on the streaming side is immensely accurate, I'm guessing to the millisecond. Plus most people likely have not turned off data sharing and thus they are grabbing a huge swath of data. Much more accurate than cable which relies on a smaller sample size and probably not to the second.

In either case, nobody is getting "double counted" because it's usage based. If I watch 100 minutes of content and 30 minutes is on Youtube and 20 minutes on Disney and 50 minutes on YTTV, it's going to show up as 30%, 20%, 50% slices of my personal pie respectively.
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Who does the Counting for Streaming ?

Neilson does the Broadcast/Cable ...
Nielsen does. If you go into the settings of any of your streaming accounts, you can turn off the option to share to usage data with their third party measuring service - Nielsen.
Jimbo
Nobody is "happy" or "sad" about this. Simply posting data in an non-editorialized way has nothing to do with anyone's feelings.

The data on the streaming side is immensely accurate, I'm guessing to the millisecond. Plus most people likely have not turned off data sharing and thus they are grabbing a huge swath of data. Much more accurate than cable which relies on a smaller sample size and probably not to the second.

In either case, nobody is getting "double counted" because it's usage based. If I watch 100 minutes of content and 30 minutes is on Youtube and 20 minutes on Disney and 50 minutes on YTTV, it's going to show up as 30%, 20%, 50% slices of my personal pie respectively.

Nielsen does. If you go into the settings of any of your streaming accounts, you can turn off the option to share to usage data with their third party measuring service - Nielsen.
I have turned some off, not others ...
dishstaller

Funny thing is that as the screen size and pic quality increase, the quality of the programming has DEcreased.
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skipped the OLED Tv entirely?

AI slop
dishstaller
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I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.
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dishstaller
If any of you know some of the guys from the board and you have their contact info, please reach out to them....many failed to update their contact info and some even had starband email addresses.
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I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.
Now I have to go check out what happened now. Lol!
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Went and looked, not too bad...

Just let people know the address is satelliteretailer.com as DishRetailer.COM is not working. :)
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osu1991
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
:mad::mad::mad::mad:

Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs

My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.

Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.

After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.

I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.
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Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs
Are you employed with no work insurance or that is what you are paying for your workplace insurance? Or is that through Healthcare.gov? Retired? Eligible for medicare?
vazhog
that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -
osu1991
Are you employed with no work insurance or that is what you are paying for your workplace insurance? Or is that through Healthcare.gov? Retired? Eligible for medicare?
Started my own business in 2006, been self employed for 20 years this year.
meStevo
that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -

Even sarcastically it's wrong. Undocumented immigrants already weren't eligible for federal Medicaid, so there's no one to "get off the rolls." The immigrant-related pieces are a small part of the ~$1 trillion. They cut the federal match for emergency care from 90% to the state's regular rate and end eligibility for some lawful immigrants like refugees. Most of the "savings" come from work requirements, more frequent eligibility checks, and provider tax limits, which hit citizens.

Either way, the cost doesn't disappear. It shifts to states, hospitals, and everyone else's premiums and will only serve to make issues like those raised in this thread worse.
dishstaller
Undocumented immigrants already weren't eligible for federal Medicaid, so there's no one to "get off the rolls."
That's only part correct. Actually I had to look it up to make sure. There is NO Federal money going to Medicaid for illegals but there ARE some states that use State money to pay for Medicaid for illegals. Here's the list

    • California: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]
    • Colorado: Covers specific adult demographics (with upcoming budget caps in 2027). [1]
    • Illinois: Covers specific adult age brackets. [1]
    • New York: Covers specific adult demographics. [1]
    • Oregon: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]
    • Washington: Covers specific adult demographics. [1, 2]
    • Washington, D.C.: Provides adult coverage through the D.C. Health Care Alliance. [1, 2]
meStevo
That's only part correct. Actually I had to look it up to make sure. There is NO Federal money going to Medicaid for illegals but there ARE some states that use State money to pay for Medicaid for illegals. Here's the list

    • California: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]
    • Colorado: Covers specific adult demographics (with upcoming budget caps in 2027). [1]
    • Illinois: Covers specific adult age brackets. [1]
    • New York: Covers specific adult demographics. [1]
    • Oregon: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]
    • Washington: Covers specific adult demographics. [1, 2]
    • Washington, D.C.: Provides adult coverage through the D.C. Health Care Alliance. [1, 2]

Fair point, but it's consistent with what I said: no federal Medicaid money goes to undocumented immigrants. Those programs are state-funded, so the federal ~$1T cut can't touch them. Whatever states decide to do with their own programs is a separate budget decision.
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The feds give money to the states for them to use - Cutting the fed funding only means the taxpayer savings will passed onto the states that need to make up the Fed dollars cut -See the list above for those states affected
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We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Chili dog bowl, water… (homemade chili)
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Leftover wanton soup and pork fried rice. Water.
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Tuna salad sandwich on toasted honey whole wheat bread with a handful of kettle chips. Water.
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Breakfast for lunch. Crispy corned beef hash, home fries, two over easy eggs and sourdough toast.

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Weird F1 weekend is already over with a Saturday race.
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Tried to watch the truck race but the stage c**p is why I don't watch NASCAR anymore…
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Today is the anniversary of Dan Wheldon's passing at Las Vegas in a dreadful crash that luckily didn't take more drivers' lives. I vaguely remember the crash, but I more strongly remember Paul Tracy trying to keep it together as he left the Medical Center knowing that Dan most likely wasn't going to.

The safety in these vehicles is beyond incomprehensible, especially relative to what it was 60 years ago, when dying wasn't unexpected. But it is still very dangerous. I always scoff at the prayer invocations, but never scoff at the risks these drivers take and the emergency workers out there who might need to pull short of a miracle to save a driver's life.
Tried to watch the truck race but the stage c**p is why I don't watch NASCAR anymore…
HBO Max has the live in car streaming without commercials, which provides an interesting take, but you are driving blind, knowing only what the team is telling the driver about what is happening on the track. The stages definitely ruin the NASCAR set up.
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NASCAR is an abject mess, but at least it has Kyle Larson. Guy had the lead on the green/white checker, fell back to 12th or the like, kept his cool, and charged back to win with room to spare at the line. And win very cleanly!

NASCAR needs to stop racing at Talladega. Especially if they are going for elderly Sunday drives at the track! Stage racing is real stupid, but NASCAR should consider one half point a second per group gap as a bonus.