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HanoverPretzel
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I just got back into town after some time away. I came back to something that alternates between complete and partial signal loss on some channels. Other channels come in alright.

Honestly, it's a toss up between neighbors I had feuded with maliciously knocking the Dish around on their way out of town (They got evicted and it was attached to the exterior of their apartment with the landlord's consent) or the thing just being knocked around by weather again (It's happened before- the placement on the building was never what I'd have considered ideal, seemed very precariously perched).

What are some quick diagnostics I can run to determine whether this is something I can fix myself without physically touching the Dish, something that will just fix itself, or something I'm going to need to call a Dish technician out to handle?

Dish handled it for free the last time, but I hear sometimes they charge big bucks (Don't know how they determine whether they charge or not) and of course I'd rather save their time and my time by fixing it at the receiver level if I can (Plus be able to watch any channel I want asap). There are also going to be logistical issues getting to the physical Dish if I do call a technician out. The jerk ex-neighbors basically flooding the sidewalk with piles of miscellaneous things on their way out, so it'd be hard to get a truck and a ladder in to get at the Dish. Theoretically it could be accessed from the now vacant apartment, but I'd need to get the key from the landlord.

So, let's see if it's something we can fix or diagnose at the receiver level first. What do you guys recommend I try?
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papalittle
First I would run a switch test and see what your signal is. Low signal will cause all sorts of problems. Make sure you have a good line of sight as in trees growing up blocking the signals. Check all connectors for corrosion or looseness. If you have DHPP then a service call should not cost more than 15 dollars.
HanoverPretzel
First I would run a switch test and see what your signal is. Low signal will cause all sorts of problems.

Signal strength 21.

Make sure you have a good line of sight as in trees growing up blocking the signals.

No tree growth in the last few months since I last had this thing repaired. :)

Check all connectors for corrosion or looseness.

I'll confirm that and reset the box, but I doubt that's the issue here.

If you have DHPP then a service call should not cost more than 15 dollars.

Don't have a DHPP. Don't want a DHPP. Honestly, if they can't do it for free, that'll probably be the final straw that makes me move on after my contract is up. To me when I subscribe to a service, if something interrupts me getting the service, it's the responsibility of the provider I'm paying for the service from to fix it so that I get what I'm paying them for, not me. Cable always did it free of charge. But that's premature to talk about. Hopefully I can either get this thing up and running myself or someone will come out and fix it for free.
HanoverPretzel
Unplugged the box and tightened all the connections. No dice. I guess I'll check outside to the very limited wiring I have access to. If no one has any suggestions beyond that, I guess the next step is to call Dish if that doesn't work.

Honestly, if they want a $99 charge to fix it, I might be better off paying a $175 termination fee (If I even pay that, I could easily fight it- my credit sucks enough that it can't possibly suck too much more, so if I feel I"m getting screwed, I could easily just keep reversing charges and if my credit rating takes enough hit 'Eh', might be worth it to stick it to the man) and walking to another provider who'll save me more than $75 in the first three months alone. I hear Directv even reimburses for early termination fees. But, again, who knows, maybe they'll fix it for free. Don't want to make assumptions.
HanoverPretzel
Okay. Got someone scheduled to come out and fix it free of charge.

The live online assistance handled that pretty well. So far, so good.

Sorry if my above posts seem a little cranky, it's my nature, and it's been a heck a tough month for non-dish related reasons. ;)
R0ss
HanoverPretzel said:
Signal strength 21.

No tree growth in the last few months since I last had this thing repaired. :)

I'll confirm that and reset the box, but I doubt that's the issue here.

Don't have a DHPP. Don't want a DHPP. Honestly, if they can't do it for free, that'll probably be the final straw that makes me move on after my contract is up. To me when I subscribe to a service, if something interrupts me getting the service, it's the responsibility of the provider I'm paying for the service from to fix it so that I get what I'm paying them for, not me. Cable always did it free of charge. But that's premature to talk about. Hopefully I can either get this thing up and running myself or someone will come out and fix it for free.

When you say a signal strength of 21 which sat was that and what dish do you have?
I have been having partial signal loss on several channels for quite some time; HLN 202 is the primary one but there are others. I have had a tech out and my signals are fine, I'm on EA.
Usually moving up or down one channel and back solves the problem.
Someone did mention that it could be a bad diplexer, I have a 722, if it gets really bad I will pull the receiver out of the entertainment center and change it (I just happen to have an extra). Besides as soon as I get the OTA antenna up we just may pull the plug to save some cash.

Good luck

Ross

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osu1991
Okay. Got someone scheduled to come out and fix it free of charge.

The live online assistance handled that pretty well. So far, so good.

Sorry if my above posts seem a little cranky, it's my nature, and it's been a heck a tough month for non-dish related reasons. ;)

:eek: You cranky..... Wherever would we get such an idea:D

Sounds like the dish is out of alignment, but you need to check a couple of different transponders on each of the sats. 21 doesn't mean good or bad if it is a spotbeam that you are on the edge of. 21 on a conus transponder that covers the entire US is bad.
Scott Greczkowski
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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PEOPLE Are Strange-The Doors
Bobby
PEOPLE Are Strange-The Doors

You're Still A Young Man - Tower Of Power
No Match, back to:
People Are Strange - The Doors




Isn't Life Strange - The Moody Blues
FTA4PA
Strange Days - Nazareth
gms49ers
Dancing Days - Led Zeppelin
dishstaller
Dancing in the Street - Van Halen
long_time_Dish
Bakers Street - Gerry Rafferty
osu1991
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long_time_Dish
Also watched part 2 about a week or so ago after rewatching part 1. It's not as faithful to the book as I was hoping for. Part 1 stayed fairly faithful to the novel, but part 2 took some liberties that I felt were rather excessively non-novel. It looks like a prequel series will happen before part 3. My issue is: there's no prequel that was written as a novel, so what will it be pulled from? Or will it just be "based loosely" on the novel?
K
Also watched part 2 about a week or so ago after rewatching part 1. It's not as faithful to the book as I was hoping for. Part 1 stayed fairly faithful to the novel, but part 2 took some liberties that I felt were rather excessively non-novel. It looks like a prequel series will happen before part 3. My issue is: there's no prequel that was written as a novel, so what will it be pulled from? Or will it just be "based loosely" on the novel?
There is a bunch of other Dune written by Kevin J Anderson and Brian Herbert (Franks son). I think the series in production is taken from one of their books about the Bene Gesserit.
long_time_Dish
There is a bunch of other Dune written by Kevin J Anderson and Brian Herbert (Franks son). I think the series in production is taken from one of their books about the Bene Gesserit.
Correct. I've read all of them (yes, it took awhile, better part of a year, in my spare time). And they can't really consider or classify a series about the Bene Gesserit as a prequel. Sure, I suppose they can call it that, if they want to, because it begins before the time of Paul Atredies, but it's still a stretch. It's a Dune-related novel, not a prequel as we generally think of prequels...
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TRG
TRG
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dishdude
It's probably been 2 decades since I've listened to an AM radio station. Very rarely listen to FM any more.
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Jimbo
I am 1 that wants the AM to Stay ....
That said, since '08 I have had Sat radio available to me ... I think I have turned on AM 3 or 4 times, just to see if its still there.

Fwiw, if theres a Major disaster or bad weather or whatever, the chances of me finding out about it by going to the AM side of the radio is SLIM and None.
Even FM, I haven't really had on since '13ish, I may turn it on from time to time, just to see if its still there.
harshness
Fwiw, if theres a Major disaster or bad weather or whatever, the chances of me finding out about it by going to the AM side of the radio is SLIM and None.
Automation has seen to that. You can't get evening drive traffic reports where I live, much less disaster reports.
dishstaller
Very rarely listen to FM any more
That goes for a lot of people. I've been advertising on radio for more than a decade now and am very familiar with this subject. While it is still a valuable tool, it has far less impact than it did just a few years ago. The best reaction I get is from a local Country music station....they play a mix of older and newer music and have a very big footprint.
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Jimbo
That goes for a lot of people. I've been advertising on radio for more than a decade now and am very familiar with this subject. While it is still a valuable tool, it has far less impact than it did just a few years ago. The best reaction I get is from a local Country music station....they play a mix of older and newer music and have a very big footprint.
Do you do any Ad's on Satellite ?

If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?
dishstaller
Do you do any Ad's on Satellite ?

If Not, why not, because it's not Local ?
No, just regular FM stations. One is the country station I mentioned and the other is a Talk Radio station which used to get fantastic results but honestly, since the death of Rush Limbaugh, talk radio just doesn't do as well. There were two guys who had an early morning show which was hugely popular here in the southeast but one of them retired a couple years ago and the show just doesn't garner the same numbers as it used to.
TheForce
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Apple Fall Hardware Event takes place today, September 9, 2026, at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET. It marks the debut of new CEO John Ternus and the expected reveal of Apple's first foldable phone.
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comfortably_numb
Can't remember if I've posted this yet..


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfL5seXJyWU
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Foxbat
IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
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But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.
S

most carriers do. that's why they send updates that slow phones down!! i buy unlocked phones no effect to me
S
IFixIt has published their Teardown and they had some positive things to say about the iPhone Duo. It still showed some dust ingress into the hinge assembly but seemed otherwise well-sealed.
​

But with a considerable number of reports of the main screen dying with similar failures, AppleCare+ should be a no-brainer for this phone.

hope you have apple care a screen job is 1000.00 :oops:. can we say over priced garbage!!!
harshness
Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.
comfortably_numb
Gone are the days when Apple "perfects" what debuted years earlier on an Android phone.

Or better yet, innovate something "completely revolutionary!"
SkyWatcher57
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Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank :rolleyes:
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(((Garyd)))
Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank :rolleyes:
Take the cover off, show me pics of the board of the bad one and also the bottom of the board. I'm an old hardware electronics tech plus a satellite dealer; I fixed a lot of FTA and regular receivers. I may be able to fix it for you. And yes, they got hit by lightning; it's best to email me the pics at diamondsatellite@snet.net or call me at 203-232-8888. I give you a 50-50 chance of fixing it; I do have spare parts. my phone is a fliptop phone
Gary
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Hello folks, well my luck ran out last week with a nasty thunderstorm and after 39 years here, finally took a hit. Now, the FTA receivers I had for some years worked great until now. Recently picked up a fairly cheap receiver, online, KOQIT and seems to be good, but for the life of me, I cannot get the HDMI output to work with 3 of my Samsung monitors. I can hook it up to my Samsung TV and its HDMI input and it works fine. The 2 receivers I lost also worked fine with them, so am I going crazy? anyone have come across this or have any suggestions? And, since this is a somewhat cheap unit but works, what is everyone out there using for receivers these days? without breaking the bank? I enjoy watching FTA TV, so I will invest more if needed, what is a really good, detailed unit these days. I'm so use to watching a few of them HD channels. Right now I'm down to composite hookups, yuck! Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Frank :rolleyes:
a good surge protector will help to.
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SkyWatcher57
Take the cover off, show me pics of the board of the bad one and also the bottom of the board. I'm an old hardware electronics tech plus a satellite dealer; I fixed a lot of FTA and regular receivers. I may be able to fix it for you. And yes, they got hit by lightning; it's best to email me the pics at diamondsatellite@snet.net or call me at 203-232-8888. I give you a 50-50 chance of fixing it; I do have spare parts. my phone is a fliptop phone
Gary
Hi Gary, still working on getting you those
Hi Gary, just saw this, ok, I'll grab some pics tomorrow and post them. thx
Still working getting you those pictures, nice weekends means yard work and fall prep, thanks
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k4otl
Anybody know how to add "hidden" audio channels like for 101 W Ku or 105W C band on these recvr's? I've exported the database file but don't have anything that will read or edit it.
cyberham
For 105W C, you scan in the Westwood tp normally. Then select the audio channel you want. Not necessary to manually enter. On 101W, you must manually enter.
k4otl
For 105W C, you scan in the Westwood tp normally. Then select the audio channel you want. Not necessary to manually enter. On 101W, you must manually enter.
Seems like I remember that now, with my V9 I manually entered anyway on 105, easier for me to pick the channel later :)