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HanoverPretzel

Last reply May 14, 2012 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

NBC Sports Channel Switching to Channel 159

Just turned to channel 151 to watch tonight's hockey game, and noticed that the guide said that NBC Sports Channel is moving to channel 159. The channel is already up and broadcasting it's new location.

Anyone have any idea what prompted this? Does it have some deeper meaning? Like that NBCSC might get included in more or different programming tiers? Or they're adding a new sports channel on 151? Something else? Random change for the sake of random change?

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dan188

May 13, 2012

Dish might want it in a lower tier but nbcsn might not agree to a deal.

osu1991

May 13, 2012

Nothing you mentioned that NBCSP offers brings in ratings or major viewers. If it did NHL would still be a fixture of ESPN programming. Dish negotiated a deal they felt was fair based on the number of viewers that channel brings in and the money Comcast wants. Dish can't do anything about what Comcast wants. Comcast sets the price they want. So in your opinion, Dish should lose money by giving Comcast the rate they want in addition to paying them MORE money by putting the channel in a lower package with more potential viewers.

NBC Sports Network's ratings take biggest drop in eight years after overhaul - NYPOST.com

64000 daily viewers according to Neilsen. Spread that over a dozen providers. Not much to write home about there. For their actual sports broadcasts NBCSP is barely averaging 500,000 viewers and that's with ratings increases for NHL and Indycar broadcasts.

You need to start badgering the media companies. This isn't DISH or Directv's problem. They are the middle man and they are getting squeezed just as much as the consumers. Tell Comcast, Viacom, Discovery, Disney etc.. that we don't need 10 or more niche channels with 12 hours or more of infomercials and crappy repeats all day. I'm the first one that wants about 20 or more channels to go away and consolidate the channels into a better package that has some relevant programming and not 4 hrs of rotating blocks repeated 4 times a days with infomercial filler. I watch some of NBCSP and CBSSN programming and hope they can get some bigger name packages away from ESPN's monopoly, but in order to do that it is gonna raise rates even more.

Dish offers a variety of packages that most other companies don't. They are not gonna lose any more customers than they normally churn if NBCSP or AMC are no longer available. People who think otherwise are dreaming.

HanoverPretzel

May 14, 2012

osu1991 said:
Nothing you mentioned that NBCSP offers brings in ratings or major viewers. If it did NHL would still be a fixture of ESPN programming. Dish negotiated a deal they felt was fair based on the number of viewers that channel brings in and the money Comcast wants. Dish can't do anything about what Comcast wants. Comcast sets the price they want. So in your opinion, Dish should lose money by giving Comcast the rate they want in addition to paying them MORE money by putting the channel in a lower package with more potential viewers.

NBC Sports Network's ratings take biggest drop in eight years after overhaul - NYPOST.com

64000 daily viewers according to Neilsen. Spread that over a dozen providers. Not much to write home about there. For their actual sports broadcasts NBCSP is barely averaging 500,000 viewers and that's with ratings increases for NHL and Indycar broadcasts.

You need to start badgering the media companies. This isn't DISH or Directv's problem. They are the middle man and they are getting squeezed just as much as the consumers. Tell Comcast, Viacom, Discovery, Disney etc.. that we don't need 10 or more niche channels with 12 hours or more of infomercials and crappy repeats all day. I'm the first one that wants about 20 or more channels to go away and consolidate the channels into a better package that has some relevant programming and not 4 hrs of rotating blocks repeated 4 times a days with infomercial filler. I watch some of NBCSP and CBSSN programming and hope they can get some bigger name packages away from ESPN's monopoly, but in order to do that it is gonna raise rates even more.

Dish offers a variety of packages that most other companies don't. They are not gonna lose any more customers than they normally churn if NBCSP or AMC are no longer available. People who think otherwise are dreaming.

I didn't realize NBC Sports Channel's ratings were so low. As a hockey fan, I find that disappointing, though I've known for a long time that hockey's ratings have generally always been lower than the other big four sports leagues. But I figured on better than that for the channel as a whole with some premium exclusive hockey games anchoring it.

Anyhow, I understand your point about channel creators creating too many channels, and charging television providers for them. We do wind up with situations where there are 15 channels with about 5 channels worth of programming on them, but instead of getting all that programming on the 5 channels in a base package, we have to find a way to pay for a package with all 15 channels to see the same thing, which costs more. As a consumer, though, I only deal with the end provider, that's who I pay my bill to. And that's really the only actor in the whole thing I have any leverage over, which isn't much (Jump to another company, but I'm just one guy and no one cares unless it's collective).

It's just kind of frustrating, I feel like I pay a good chunk of change and basically just want the same sort of programming I always had and grew up with, but that it's requiring higher and higher tiers to get, and even the basic tiers are costing more and more. I mean, sure, it's just tv, and just sports, but, frankly, those things do take on an oversized importance if you can't swing together things like a nice income and a family and whatnot. You spend a lot of time at home with the dog watching your favorite teams and trying to live vicariously through them, and really want those games to all be on.

The Fat Man

May 14, 2012

osu1991 said:
I bet NBCSP goes into Free Preview for the month of the Olympic's, further diluting the value I pay each month as an AT250 subscriber.

I'm a 250 subscriber as well. The only value I see in have the 250 is NBC Sports, Encore, and The Movie Channel. The rest of it is channels that have reruns of The Wonder Years and Doogie Houser. But as long as those two movie packages remain in 250 I will find it of value.

osu1991

May 14, 2012

The Fat Man said:
I'm a 250 subscriber as well. The only value I see in have the 250 is NBC Sports, Encore, and The Movie Channel. The rest of it is channels that have reruns of The Wonder Years and Doogie Houser. But as long as those two movie packages remain in 250 I will find it of value.

Those are my main reason too, I also watch Fox Soccer and DIY net some too. Those 2 channels are usually on in the back ground in my office while I work, this time of the year. Football replays will be on during the season. Mondays is Top Gear marathons on BBCA, so that is what is on now (I can have those playing most anytime). I am on hold a lot working insurance claims, so it's either the tv or stare out the window.

I understand where you're coming from Pretzel, but it's not something Dish or Directv can control, other than by dropping a channel. People are going to complain if a channel goes away and they are going to complain if they have to pay more. Catch 22.

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Brct203

Oct 13, 2026

would probably also work well for NHK on 101W and possibly for PBS on 99W. I used one for a while on 30W. Just keep in mind that because it's undersized for those satellites, it might work fine in clear weather but won't have much margin to account for signal degradation during rain/snow

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If you can find one, the Shaw / Star Choice 75e ellipticals are great for use on 97, 99, and 101W. They are really just rebranded ChannelMaster 75 cm reflectors and use linear LNBFs by default out of the box.

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I have read that some have converted this type dish but after giving it a good look, it's the lnb conversion that is the bottleneck. Does anyone have a picture of their attempt to configure the lnb? I watched a video on youtube from the save it for parts guy and he used duct tape! Guess it worked but I'm thinking something a bit more permanent!
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Many of us have used a universal LNBF mount (or get creative with L brackets and plumbers tape - perforated metal strapping). Use a few inches of aluminum tube (or a piece of 1x2" lumber) to extend the support arm (replacing the plastic mount used by DirecTV and Dish) to place the LNBF throat opening at the correct distance from the reflector, the correct height and at the correct angle. Nothing magical... simply place the new linear LNBF in the center at the same distance, height and angle as the current combo.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.

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naptime said:
I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.

It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

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jsmit86 said:
They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.

Oh, you mean "soon"? :biggrin

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jsmit86 said:
It's a known issue.
For a temporary fix, go into the menu, Audio, and turn Dolby Audio "OFF". You will have PCM stereo audio.

I was able to give the tech ops team some data logs so they could diagnose the problem, and they rolled me back to H708 temporarily. It fixed that issue.

They let me know that they understand what caused the issue, and it will be fixed within a few weeks in a new update.

I guess they will be busy when lots of people start asking for rollbacks to H708 now that you mention that downgrades of software does exist because it will likely fix the OTA Single Tuner and the IR Remote problems in H710-H713.

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I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?

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Yesterday at 3:47 PM

reubenray said:
I have gotten back into watching SG-1 and I have recorded most of the episodes to binge watch. What episodes are about the Antarctic or was this a movie? Also where could I watch the SG-1 movies?

Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.

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Yesterday at 3:54 PM

long_time_Dish said:
Well, there are a couple involving the Antarctic. "Solitudes", S1 E17 (one of my favorites), Then, "Lost City', S7 E21 and E22. Then, in the SGA pilot, "Rising", S1 E1 and E2, it starts out in the Antarctic for about the first 20 minutes or so.

Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.

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Yesterday at 8:36 PM

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Which one has O'Neil being Ancients? I am at the end of Season 8 now.

If I understand your question, O'Neill had the Ancient's knowledge in the "Lost City" two-part episode. That was when Anubis attacked Earth and there was a big battle over Antarctica.

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