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Tex Arcana
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I've had Dish before, for damn near 10 years straight; so, obviously, I kinda liked them. But when we moved to an apartment from our house (long story, basically downsizing), we thought we couldn't do Dish because how the apartments are set up. So we went with uVerse for tv and Internet.

Needless to say, uVerse is insanely expensive. And the picture quality isn't all that good--severe pixelation on "busy" scenes and scene transistions.

Needless to say, I'm not pleased.

So, I'm looking to change, and I'd like to see what advice y'all can give me. We need TV & Internet, and I must have at least mostly HD with BBCA-HD and SPEED-HD; we also need the local channels.

The kicker is, we just pulled the trigger on a new home build, and the target completion date is around mid-late September, so we will have to move the service.

So, what say ye, ye experts of satellite guys? Am I just barking up a tree? Or is there something out there (the only choices afaik are Dish, Direct, AT&T, and Time-Warner) that will give me what I need?

Local zip code is 75070; zip where we're moving: 75409.

Thanks in advance.
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HanoverPretzel
Also consider what type of contractual commitment you're willing to sign. Dish and Directv lock you in for two years, and Dish has a lot of programming disputes where channels might go off the air temporarily or permanently. Oftentimes, cable is contract free and you can "walk away" basically at any time, though I hear some cable promotions from some companies are starting to require contracts, so you might want to look into whether you can get any good price promotions contract free in your area.

In your shoes, I'd probably drop FIOS and switch to contract-less cable offering for your current apartment. Then, if you want a dish, get it at your new place. The main reason for doing cable now and Dish later? There is often a moving fee for the second setup at the new place. If you wait to get it until after the move, you may get free installation (Though an important caveat here is that Dish runs a credit check on you and makes some people pay for install- cost me $99 despite their advertising and they didn't give me HD equipment, and, yeah, I'm still a little bitter), and there is no possibility of a moving fee.

Another factor to consider: Where are you getting your Internet? The Dish/Direct bundles are usually with DSL- which is relatively slow even at it's best, and can be really difficult to deal with if the telephone wiring infrastructure in your area has gone to hell (Which is beginning to happen more and more as people switch to using cell phones as their only phones and the telephone companies don't put the money into keeping phone lines in as good of repair as they used to, or at least that's what it seems like).

Right now I have Dish for TV and the local cable company for Internet. That works out because I have a great promotional rate for the Internet. Once that rate expires, I will get hit with a non-bundling fee, and because there is no FIOS in my area and the phone lines weren't even good for voice calls when I had a landline, I may wind up switching my television to cable in part to get a bundling promo. I do think there is one Internet package that doesn't have a "no-TV" fee, but it's a little slower than standard and costs a little more, so I'm not sure whether it's worth it (Might be worth trying for a while to find out).

I guess my post is kind of sounding pro-cable, but that's not necessarily the vibe I'm trying to send. I've had issues with cable too. Comcast didn't carry the alternate games of a local regional sports network in my area, even though they do to the east, west, and south of me (Not kidding). Then Comcast added it for a season. Then Comcast took it away the next season. And no one I talked to even seemed to know what I was talking about when I called to complain. And when I cancelled my TV and Internet with them and went back to get Internet 6-7 months later because the wireless broadband card thing I had from another company was horrific, they claimed my address didn't exist (Even though I had service with them at this same address 6-7 months prior) and I went through hell trying to get Internet back up (Only a slight exaggeration- a zilllion phone calls, two or three office visits, two or three visits to my apartment, a missed installation appointment, a letter to the consumerist, a bunch of e-mails, more phone calls, and finally an appointment I only agreed to because they sweetened the pot and made the deal impossible to pass up- otherwise I would have told them to forget it after going through all that).

One thing I'll say about Dish positively is that- despite their contracts, their discrimination against people with low credit, their implying your first year rate is locked in when it's not, and their frequent programming disputes that lose you channels you need- they are actually fairly easy to deal with. When I called to install, they had people out here within a couple days. Service calls, the same. I can switch programming packages right on the Internet. That is one area that they are way better than cable in.
KAB
KAB
If you want BBCA, cross Direct off your list. Amazing to me they don't carry it. And I could never get mad enough at Dish to switch to D* because of that. Rather have BBCA than AMC !!!
Tex Arcana
Mojo, yer amazing. Thanks for the extensive research. I know it's been a month, but I'm funny that way. Hell, I haven't even called uverse and bitched about the picture quality (too busy). I thought I HAD to make a fast choice; but given my druthers, I don't like being forced into fast choices, and typically don't do them.

So right now I'm still in limbo and just dealing with uVerse. Hanover, it ain't FIOS, not even close. The only good thing is I don't lose signal during bad storms; otherwise, the picture quality is as described before (crap), and the Internet service is crap--supposed to be 6Mbps, but it rarely sees better than 4, and it has these "pauses" that pretty much interrupt any decent form of TV viewing or web surfing. >_<

Mojo, I haven't forgotten this, and I'm going to bookmark the thread so I can find it.

Hanover, thanks for the post, it's good information. A word of advice: when shift like what you experienced happens, DEMAND THE SUPERVISOR. Kick that stuff so far upstairs they're tasting it for breakfast. AND DON'T TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER. If they want to keep their customer, they will eventually capitulate. And that applies to just about anything, not just cable or dish.

Mojo, one last thing: if you have any pull with the site owners, ask them to make posted links show in another color, on my iPad they're all the same, I can't tell what's a link and what's not.

Thanks guys! <3
Mojo Jojo
Tex Arcana said:
Mojo, one last thing: if you have any pull with the site owners, ask them to make posted links show in another color, on my iPad they're all the same, I can't tell what's a link and what's not.

Thanks guys! <3

I am sorry, but I do not have any pull with the site owners. I did update my app the other day, but I'm not sure if that will fix the issues with the color. The links are somewhat close in color to the regular text. I am not sure if you can go into the app or the iPad to change link colors. I am also using an iPod right now; sometimes I get frustrated with the iPod and jump on the PC. :)

If Dish needs someone for programming help, I would love it (if I could do it online from home) :)
Claude Greiner
If I where in your position, I would just put up with that Uverse garbage for another few months till your ready to move.

Then you can do a brand new customer offer with either DISH Network or Directv and get all the correct equipment the first time.

Anything you get installed now is just going to be a hassle in 3 months when you try to do a mover deal, and add or upgrade your equipment when you move into your new home.
Scott Greczkowski
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!

So let the game continue!

The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters

CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!

Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game

Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.

Example:

Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow

Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio

Another example:

Ride the Lightning -- Metallica

Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne


Get it?


An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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I Can Hear Music - The Beach Boys
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Boom Boom ( Out Go The Lights ) - Pat Travers
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Palisades Park - Freddy "Boom Boom" Cannon
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Cherry Hill Park - Billy Joe Royal
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Lakeside Park - Rush
Bruce
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Last reply · posted in Internet Television (IPTV) Discussion Forum
I was reading this article


That said this-
Last summer, for the first time, streaming services like Netflix and Amazon Prime claimed the largest share of the television viewing audience, surpassing both cable and broadcast TV. Streaming captured 34.8 percent of July viewers, according to Nielsen data, compared to 34.4 percent for cable and 21.6 percent for broadcast.

And then, sometime in the second half of 2022, cord-cutters became the majority. The share of cable and satellite television subscribers dipped to 48 percent, according to a report from Samba TV, a television technology company.


Now I do not consider those with YTTV and the likes, Cord Cutters, but they still do not have Traditional Cable/Satellite delivered Live TV, so I decided to do the math.

There are, now, 129 Million Households in the United States.

In 2015, there were 100 Million Cable/Sat Subscribers , no streaming Live TV Service.

Today, there are 66 Million Live TV subscribers, including Cable, Satellite and Streaming.

Roughly, Streaming Live TV has 14 Million subs including all of them.

So that means, Cable/Satellite now has, roughly, 51 Million Households

So in just 8 years, lost 49% of their subscribers and by the end of this year, expected sub count to be, roughly, 45 million households.

That means a total loss of 55% since 2015 at the end of 2023.

But out of 129 Million households, 45 million will mean only 35% will get Cable/Satellite Delivered Live TV by the end of 2023.

Imagine what 2024 will be like.
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Bruce
And again, 15 months in a row, streaming wins-

Cable and Broadcast added together-36.4%

Streaming with a massive 49.6%, 13.2% higher than Broadcast/Streaming.

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Jimbo
And again, 15 months in a row, streaming wins-

Cable and Broadcast added together-36.4%

Streaming with a massive 49.6%, 13.2% higher than Broadcast/Streaming.

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Your Still Thrilled about all this ?

These numbers will Never be accurate as many people use Both still ...

You have services like Hulu Live and You Tube TV that do, what you call Cable, but they ARE Streaming, so Which is is ?

Does it get counted 2x as both Streaming and Cable ?
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Your Still Thrilled about all this ?

These numbers will Never be accurate as many people use Both still ...
Nobody is "happy" or "sad" about this. Simply posting data in an non-editorialized way has nothing to do with anyone's feelings.

The data on the streaming side is immensely accurate, I'm guessing to the millisecond. Plus most people likely have not turned off data sharing and thus they are grabbing a huge swath of data. Much more accurate than cable which relies on a smaller sample size and probably not to the second.

In either case, nobody is getting "double counted" because it's usage based. If I watch 100 minutes of content and 30 minutes is on Youtube and 20 minutes on Disney and 50 minutes on YTTV, it's going to show up as 30%, 20%, 50% slices of my personal pie respectively.
Q.
Who does the Counting for Streaming ?

Neilson does the Broadcast/Cable ...
Nielsen does. If you go into the settings of any of your streaming accounts, you can turn off the option to share to usage data with their third party measuring service - Nielsen.
Jimbo
Nobody is "happy" or "sad" about this. Simply posting data in an non-editorialized way has nothing to do with anyone's feelings.

The data on the streaming side is immensely accurate, I'm guessing to the millisecond. Plus most people likely have not turned off data sharing and thus they are grabbing a huge swath of data. Much more accurate than cable which relies on a smaller sample size and probably not to the second.

In either case, nobody is getting "double counted" because it's usage based. If I watch 100 minutes of content and 30 minutes is on Youtube and 20 minutes on Disney and 50 minutes on YTTV, it's going to show up as 30%, 20%, 50% slices of my personal pie respectively.

Nielsen does. If you go into the settings of any of your streaming accounts, you can turn off the option to share to usage data with their third party measuring service - Nielsen.
I have turned some off, not others ...
dishstaller

Funny thing is that as the screen size and pic quality increase, the quality of the programming has DEcreased.
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dishdude
skipped the OLED Tv entirely?

AI slop
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.
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dishstaller
If any of you know some of the guys from the board and you have their contact info, please reach out to them....many failed to update their contact info and some even had starband email addresses.
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I figured some of the guys would be looking here for an answer. You'll need to use this link

I'll mention what happened over there. I don't want to cause Scott any issues or put him in a bad spot.
Now I have to go check out what happened now. Lol!
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Scott Greczkowski
Went and looked, not too bad...

Just let people know the address is satelliteretailer.com as DishRetailer.COM is not working. :)
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osu1991
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Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
:mad::mad::mad::mad:

Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs

My health Insurance renewal for 2027 just came in. Going from $827 a month to $1,187 a month. Deductible going up a $1k to $9,350. Max out of pocket also going up $1k to $11,000. Doctor co-pay of $40. Urgent Care co-pay $50. ER 50% coinsurance after deductible. That's all in network. Out of network is double, should it be needed.

Have to think about this. I'm really tempted to just go without now. I only go to the doctor once or twice a year. I pay out of pocket for Tirzepitide and can do without the Rosuvastatin (crestor) now. Really tired of spending over $10k a year and getting nothing out of it.

After years with Blue Cross I switched last year to Ambetter as my Blue Cross premium was going from $1200 to $1800 for a Silver plan and the Bronze plan was still going to be $1300 at BCBS. Ambetter was $827 for the same coverage with a Bronze plan. Didn't think it would jump this much so soon.

I'm guessing a Silver plan is probably over $2,000 a month for 2027.
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Pissed off at the crappy healthcare costs
Are you employed with no work insurance or that is what you are paying for your workplace insurance? Or is that through Healthcare.gov? Retired? Eligible for medicare?
vazhog
that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -
osu1991
Are you employed with no work insurance or that is what you are paying for your workplace insurance? Or is that through Healthcare.gov? Retired? Eligible for medicare?
Started my own business in 2006, been self employed for 20 years this year.
meStevo
that cut is only for illegals to get off the rolls and I was being sarcastic before -

Even sarcastically it's wrong. Undocumented immigrants already weren't eligible for federal Medicaid, so there's no one to "get off the rolls." The immigrant-related pieces are a small part of the ~$1 trillion. They cut the federal match for emergency care from 90% to the state's regular rate and end eligibility for some lawful immigrants like refugees. Most of the "savings" come from work requirements, more frequent eligibility checks, and provider tax limits, which hit citizens.

Either way, the cost doesn't disappear. It shifts to states, hospitals, and everyone else's premiums and will only serve to make issues like those raised in this thread worse.
dishstaller
Undocumented immigrants already weren't eligible for federal Medicaid, so there's no one to "get off the rolls."
That's only part correct. Actually I had to look it up to make sure. There is NO Federal money going to Medicaid for illegals but there ARE some states that use State money to pay for Medicaid for illegals. Here's the list

    • California: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]
    • Colorado: Covers specific adult demographics (with upcoming budget caps in 2027). [1]
    • Illinois: Covers specific adult age brackets. [1]
    • New York: Covers specific adult demographics. [1]
    • Oregon: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]
    • Washington: Covers specific adult demographics. [1, 2]
    • Washington, D.C.: Provides adult coverage through the D.C. Health Care Alliance. [1, 2]
meStevo
That's only part correct. Actually I had to look it up to make sure. There is NO Federal money going to Medicaid for illegals but there ARE some states that use State money to pay for Medicaid for illegals. Here's the list

    • California: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]
    • Colorado: Covers specific adult demographics (with upcoming budget caps in 2027). [1]
    • Illinois: Covers specific adult age brackets. [1]
    • New York: Covers specific adult demographics. [1]
    • Oregon: Covers all income-eligible undocumented adults. [1, 2]
    • Washington: Covers specific adult demographics. [1, 2]
    • Washington, D.C.: Provides adult coverage through the D.C. Health Care Alliance. [1, 2]

Fair point, but it's consistent with what I said: no federal Medicaid money goes to undocumented immigrants. Those programs are state-funded, so the federal ~$1T cut can't touch them. Whatever states decide to do with their own programs is a separate budget decision.
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vazhog
The feds give money to the states for them to use - Cutting the fed funding only means the taxpayer savings will passed onto the states that need to make up the Fed dollars cut -See the list above for those states affected
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Last reply · posted in What's Cooking?
We have a Breakfast and Dinner thread so... :)
Continuing from the Breakfast thread, found Cornbread mix so ...
Yellow Cornbread Mix
2 Hatch Green Chiles -diced
1 Egg
2/3 cup of milk
add to greased pan
Bake for 400f 20-25 minutes(From instructions)
now to put together and try... this to go with pinto beans...
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Chili dog bowl, water… (homemade chili)
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Leftover wanton soup and pork fried rice. Water.
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Sweet tea…
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Tuna salad sandwich on toasted honey whole wheat bread with a handful of kettle chips. Water.
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Breakfast for lunch. Crispy corned beef hash, home fries, two over easy eggs and sourdough toast.

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Weird F1 weekend is already over with a Saturday race.
dfergie
Tried to watch the truck race but the stage c**p is why I don't watch NASCAR anymore…
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Today is the anniversary of Dan Wheldon's passing at Las Vegas in a dreadful crash that luckily didn't take more drivers' lives. I vaguely remember the crash, but I more strongly remember Paul Tracy trying to keep it together as he left the Medical Center knowing that Dan most likely wasn't going to.

The safety in these vehicles is beyond incomprehensible, especially relative to what it was 60 years ago, when dying wasn't unexpected. But it is still very dangerous. I always scoff at the prayer invocations, but never scoff at the risks these drivers take and the emergency workers out there who might need to pull short of a miracle to save a driver's life.
Tried to watch the truck race but the stage c**p is why I don't watch NASCAR anymore…
HBO Max has the live in car streaming without commercials, which provides an interesting take, but you are driving blind, knowing only what the team is telling the driver about what is happening on the track. The stages definitely ruin the NASCAR set up.
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NASCAR is an abject mess, but at least it has Kyle Larson. Guy had the lead on the green/white checker, fell back to 12th or the like, kept his cool, and charged back to win with room to spare at the line. And win very cleanly!

NASCAR needs to stop racing at Talladega. Especially if they are going for elderly Sunday drives at the track! Stage racing is real stupid, but NASCAR should consider one half point a second per group gap as a bonus.