Social Feed

AIsmail
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
After nearly 13 years Dish & I are parting ways at my parents home in early June. I'm making the switch to Direct due to Dish's lack of any RSN's in the New York area. Its a change I've been very reluctant to make but all good things must come to an end. I'll still have Dish at my home and I guess I'll be spending more time at my parents. Any advice on canceling it? My contract expires on June 3rd so should I cancel Dish on that date and then make my arrangements to get Direct or make those arrangements now for an install date on or about the 3rd. Not sure what if any difference it all makes but I thought I'd see what you all had to say. Thanks in advance. Much appreciated.
36 Replies · 5968 views
dtro77
After nearly 13 years Dish & I are parting ways at my parents home in early June. I'm making the switch to Direct due to Dish's lack of any RSN's in the New York area. Its a change I've been very reluctant to make but all good things must come to an end. I'll still have Dish at my home and I guess I'll be spending more time at my parents. Any advice on canceling it? My contract expires on June 3rd so should I cancel Dish on that date and then make my arrangements to get Direct or make those arrangements now for an install date on or about the 3rd. Not sure what if any difference it all makes but I thought I'd see what you all had to say. Thanks in advance. Much appreciated.
Well you will be very happy with Directv when it comes to NY sports.

When you place your order with Directv you will need to pay for it that day.
Depending on your credit and equipment you want will determin your upfront cost, could be nothing, might be $500.

What type of equipment do you want?
How about programming?
AIsmail
Well you will be very happy with Directv when it comes to NY sports.

When you place your order with Directv you will need to pay for it that day.
Depending on your credit and equipment you want will determin your upfront cost, could be nothing, might be $500.

What type of equipment do you want?
How about programming?

I'm going to go with the Choice Ultimate Package and I want to do the Whole Home DVR along with 3 additional HD Receivers. Yeah I'm psyched to be able to watch NY Sports again. My upfront cost should only be $99 for the equipment. It baffles me as to why Dish has let the NY sports market go. Its the single reason I got Dish 13 years ago. Sports often means more to people then any other type of entertainment. I guess they figure with the international channels they get enough subscribers in the NY area. The only thing I wish Direct offered would be something like the Hopper where all your tvs had the ability to pause and rewind live tv with the whole home DVR feature. Its cause of the Hopper I kept Dish at my home. It really is pretty impressive.
lparsons21
When/if Direct ever gets the RVU box out the door, you could have an HR34 with its 5 tuners and then RVU boxes at the other locations. Then it would all be centralized management ala` the Hopper/Joey situation.

As it is, it is a bit of a PITA to manage multiple receivers/DVRs with the way D* has it now. If you go with an HR34 with all receivers, then you can set recordings and most other things with the receiver. But you can't use trickplay with live events. A workaround, imo, is to start a recording of the live event and wait a little bit and then start watching the recording. Then you have trickplay available.
dtro77
I'm going to go with the Choice Ultimate Package and I want to do the Whole Home DVR along with 3 additional HD Receivers. Yeah I'm psyched to be able to watch NY Sports again. My upfront cost should only be $99 for the equipment. It baffles me as to why Dish has let the NY sports market go. Its the single reason I got Dish 13 years ago. Sports often means more to people then any other type of entertainment. I guess they figure with the international channels they get enough subscribers in the NY area. The only thing I wish Direct offered would be something like the Hopper where all your tvs had the ability to pause and rewind live tv with the whole home DVR feature. Its cause of the Hopper I kept Dish at my home. It really is pretty impressive.
I know it may sound dumb, but if you like Dish so much, instead of switching to Directv, did you Try a RoKu and maybe subscribe to a sports pack. Even Smart TV's or even blue rays can subscribe to MLB, NHL,or NBA.

Just a thought, sure it will cost you some money, but you'll get every game. RSN's have nothing to do with NFL so your not gaining anything by switching because of say the Giants or Jets.( Unless you want NFL ST)
AIsmail
I know it may sound dumb, but if you like Dish so much, instead of switching to Directv, did you Try a RoKu and maybe subscribe to a sports pack. Even Smart TV's or even blue rays can subscribe to MLB, NHL,or NBA.

Just a thought, sure it will cost you some money, but you'll get every game. RSN's have nothing to do with NFL so your not gaining anything by switching because of say the Giants or Jets.( Unless you want NFL ST)

Thanks for the suggestion but unfortunately you don't get local RSN's with any of the sports packs you suggested. So even if I got the MLB, NBA, or NHL pack all the NY teams would be blacked out. For me to get them that way, I'd have to move out of the NY market.
S
AIsmail said:
Its a shame that Dish doesn't see the importance of sports. One could argue that sports mean more then movies when selecting a provider considering that their are so many other ways to get movies into your home. This nonsense that they are cheaper means nothing when you don't get the same slate of channels. If AMC goes dark and the major networks decided they don't want Dish transmitting their signals when their contracts expire due to the whole Auto Hop feature, what then? No local programming. I highly doubt my bill go down by double digits and even if it did, who cares? Dish really needs to rethink its position when playing hardball with these companies.

Just because you value sports over everything else doesn't mean that's true for the majority....
AIsmail
Just because you value sports over everything else doesn't mean that's true for the majority....

I'm sorry but who said I value sports over everything else? Ironically you quote me but draw your own conclusions based on my comment. Last time I checked, the populous spends quite a bit on sports when you consider everything from the pros to high school so I fail to see how I'm in the minority. In the end we all pay for channels we don't care for. I don't watch a majority of the channels I get but what can you do but pay for them anyway. Afterall they are included with the package. I just don't understand how when it comes to sports, all the anti sports people are quick to point out how they don't want to pay for it cause they don't watch it. However its okay for people like me to pay for channels you watch. All I ask is for you to kindly pay for channels I watch in return. & when all is said and done, our bills go up anyway so I fail to see the issue. If my bill is going up $3, why not just go up $5 and give everyone what they want?
dishcomm
When/if Direct ever gets the RVU box out the door, you could have an HR34 with its 5 tuners and then RVU boxes at the other locations. Then it would all be centralized management ala` the Hopper/Joey situation.

As it is, it is a bit of a PITA to manage multiple receivers/DVRs with the way D* has it now. If you go with an HR34 with all receivers, then you can set recordings and most other things with the receiver. But you can't use trickplay with live events. A workaround, imo, is to start a recording of the live event and wait a little bit and then start watching the recording. Then you have trickplay available.
What's an RVU?
dishcomm
Thanks for the suggestion but unfortunately you don't get local RSN's with any of the sports packs you suggested. So even if I got the MLB, NBA, or NHL pack all the NY teams would be blacked out. For me to get them that way, I'd have to move out of the NY market.

That's not correct. With Choice Extra, Ultimate and Premier, you get your local RSN's included. SO you would see YES, MSG and SNY....go to directv.com and see for yourself
dare2be
That's not correct. With Choice Extra, Ultimate and Premier, you get your local RSN's included. SO you would see YES, MSG and SNY....go to directv.com and see for yourself
He said "instead of switching to DirecTV." It is correct. To use a Roku and a sports pack subscription, the local NY games in the NY market would be blacked out, short of using a VPN or proxy service.
dtro77
That's not correct. With Choice Extra, Ultimate and Premier, you get your local RSN's included. SO you would see YES, MSG and SNY....go to directv.com and see for yourself
Choice Too!
SuperDish_Fan23
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
Why are ViP922s So rare? like its crazy how ebay has none, i checked everywhere, also, i got a ViP222k now, which is actually activated!
20 Replies · 478 views
S
That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.
  • Like
Reactions: charlesrshell
Almighty1
That's not really unusual. Cable companies like to the provide the box too. The phone company provided the phones in until the government forced them to allow third-party phones.
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".
AZ.
AZ.
Yes, the Western Electric phones that says "Bell System Property, NOT FOR SALE, Western Electric".
someone is showing their age
Almighty1
someone is showing their age
LOL. It depends if the person saw it during the years when they were actually still available which is 1968 to 1983 meaning the person could be 43-58 years old or they can even be a few years old if they learned to read and write at a young age and actually saw a telephone with that label somewhere recently just like even here in San Francisco, payphone still exist physically in public places but whether they can be used or not is a different issue. It still looks like this even today:
1792633296785.webp
  • Like
Reactions: charlesrshell
dishstaller
I opened my Radio Shack in Sept 1984 and right about that time they did the whole deregulation thing with the phone companies. I bought TONS of those phones that had been refurbished with a new outer shell. You could throw one of those out of a 3 story high window and it would still work.
That was an interesting time in history. I would have older customers come in and ask about phones.....they were terrified that they were going to get into trouble hooking up a second phone without the phone company knowing about it. One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone. I guess younger folks can't conceive of a time when you were limited to the number of phones you could have in your house....and limited to the length of the cord 🤣
navychop
someone is showing their age

You should hear his stories about when rocks were soft and pterodactyls were the new kid on the block!
dishstaller
One of the funniest episodes of WKRP was the one where Johnny thought the cops were showing up because they had an unregistered phone.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA0yZ1nrm6M&pp=ygUPd2tycCBwaG9uZSBjb3Bz
dishstaller
Pub Member / Supporter Lifetime Supporter
Last reply · posted in The Chit Chat Club
He was 71 yrs old. One of my favorite songs is Seminole Wind....the violin is killer.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8sh9P3X33w
5 Replies · 40 views
FTA4PA
Rest In Peace
  • Like
Reactions: dishstaller
M
I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song. Rest in peace Mr Anderson.
  • Like
Reactions: dishstaller
Bobby
Rest in peace.
  • Like
Reactions: dishstaller
comfortably_numb
Hope you're out there Swingin', John.
  • Like
Reactions: dishstaller
dishstaller
I Wish I Could Have Been There is an amazing song.
That's one of those songs that hits a little too close to home for me. I like the song but just can't listen to it. It's kinda like that song "Daddy never was the Cadillac kind".....reminds me too much of my Grandfather who died Feb 18, 1995.
N
Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
My OTA is not working anymore. This started after the latest update. I have the OTA dongle with a OTA antenna that I've been using for years. My hopper does not recognize the dongle anymore and when I go to the OTA setting, it has a screen that says to plug a dongle into the USB. I tried unplugging and plugging back, in the same usb port and other ports. The Hopper does not recognize it. Anyone have same issue?
201 Replies · 5097 views
  • Like
Reactions: charlesrshell
Scott Greczkowski
Did you people having this issue contact Brittany yet? Shes trying to keep track of things and it would be good for you to contact her as maybe she can get this somewhere and get fixed.

Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.

DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.

Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy. :)
bookworm370
Did you people having this issue contact Brittany yet? Shes trying to keep track of things and it would be good for you to contact her as maybe she can get this somewhere and get fixed.

Now while unofficial, I am hearing this issue wasn't caused by DISH's software team, but was caused by a chipset driver update that seemes to have hosed some older USB devices. If this is indeed the case I can see why DISH didn't know and why they are slow in fixing it as they need the chipset company to fix its drivers and release them to DISH so they can be pushed out to all.

DISH does not hate you guys nor do they want you to buy new USB dongles. I am rather sure they didn't even know this was an issue until they saw it posted.

Again contact Brittany if you are having this issue, so she has your info and hopefully she can do something for you to keep you happy. :)
Thanks, but until they do, can't Dish just revert to the old driver that worked? Then test the new driver when delivered,d before pushing it again.

But then what does an old CIO know! I've only reamed quite a few buttholes from my people that didn't do that! ;)
S
Thanks, but until they do, can't Dish just revert to the old driver that worked? Then test the new driver when delivered,d before pushing it again.

But then what does an old CIO know! I've only reamed quite a few buttholes from my people that didn't do that! ;)
dish can't revert back to older drivers or updates. although just one reason not to buy the ota dongle!!!
  • Like
Reactions: charlesrshell
ppappas
dish can't revert back to older drivers or updates. although just one reason not to buy the ota dongle!!!
They can absolutely put the old driver back if they wanted. This is an embedded software environment in which they have total control. All they have to do if build a new version of firmware with the old OTA driver and test it of course. They just don't want to spend the resources doing so. If they are not going to continue supporting the single tuner adapter, then they have to say so.
Almighty1
They can absolutely put the old driver back if they wanted. This is an embedded software environment in which they have total control. All they have to do if build a new version of firmware with the old OTA driver and test it of course. They just don't want to spend the resources doing so. If they are not going to continue supporting the single tuner adapter, then they have to say so.
Unless of course they didn't keep a copy of the old drivers and can no longer get it. Then there is always the their support for the product is EOL after a x amount of time so it will make the consumer have to buy the current product offering.
B
Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.
  • Like
Reactions: charlesrshell
Almighty1
Anyone heard any updates on this, I'm still having the issue so thought I'd check in.
No updates but if you can get DISH Technical Operations to roll you back to H710 or earlier even though H708 would be best because it also eliminates another problem like in this comment, you will also no longer have the problem as long as you don't update manually or forced to any new version until the problem is fixed as the problem started in H711 and still exist in H712 and H713.
  • Like
Reactions: charlesrshell
dishstaller
Installed an off-air antenna a couple days ago for a customer who had just cancelled his Dish service. He had a dual off-air adapter and gave it to me. Cool. I'll keep it on the truck....might come in handy. Got to admit I don't watch anything as far as live tv goes anymore. Even if we have severe weather, our local channels will have a live feed on Youtube.
navychop
In other news, it was announced that the software fix for the two tin cans and a string will not be forthcoming. A hardware fix is required. However, that fix will let you receive stations from a gazillion miles away.

Truck roll charges may apply. Two year commitment required.
M
Last reply · posted in Over the Air Television By RabbitEars.Info
Interesting article about the work being done to develope an ATSC 3 converter box. Yes it does mention affordable.
6 Replies · 201 views
navychop
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
TRG
TRG
17 years ago the US turned off analog OTA signals in favor of digital broadcasting. Now the push is ATSC 3 "Nextgen TV". But nobody seems to be able to agree on DRM implementation protocols. People don't want to hook their TV up to the internet in order to watch over the air TV. At least I don't. With all the data they collect about your viewing habits the box should be given away at no cost.
navychop
Comb your hair.
primestar31
DEATH TO NEXGEN!
star trek GIF


It's dead, they just don't know it yet. They killed it by forcing DRM on it, and that TOTALLY botched implementing it.

There is absolutely NO compelling reason for anybody to switch to ATSC3.0. They only want it as a total and complete money grab.
  • Like
Reactions: FTA4PA and navychop
navychop
I truly hope you are right.
  • Like
Reactions: FTA4PA
TWiT Tech Podcast Network
· posted in TWiT Tech Podcast Network
0 Replies · 6 views