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I picked up a free dish via craigslist
Winegard 7.5' mesh
mount
pole
actuator
Chapparal Feedhorn (?)
Novsat Gold C-Band LNB (the label showing the model number was worn off. I do see 710-0285)
Novsat 6600 Series Ku-Bane LNB (GM6921)
Visionsat IV200 PVR Plus
zip code 98466 I understant that I need to angle the mount assy at 35.7 degrees when pointed true south (I understand my declination is +18.1 degrees from magnetic)

I'm suspecting the former owner disassembled the dish solo as the 4 support arms were bent and slightly twisted at the ends. I straightened the arms as best I could. I spent a bit of time aligning the scalar ring such that it is parallel to the dish. How do I center the scalar ring - loosen the bolts attaching the ring and twist the ring or loosen the bolts to the dish and adjust the slots?

This has become my science experiment

Do I have sufficient equipment to determine to make it work? I see the servo on the Feedhorn, but do not see the way to control it.. or even be able to look inside the feedhorn and understand if it is currently set to horizontal or vertical (I'm assuming to limit my scans and not waste time).

I've seen multiple directions on how to install the feedhorn assembly; point the arrow (on the servo) straight up (the servo does not have an arrow, but picture lead me to believe the arrow id following the long edge of the container looking at the back); cut out a template, place on the side of the servo, and point the arrow straight up (which woud cant the feedhorn about 45 degrees to the right when facing from the front of the dish).

Since I do not know the specs for the LNB, I hope to get some guidance as the PVR is asking questions I cannot answer:
Satellite: (I suspect I need to target 123W Galaxy12)
Frequency: (nnnnn M nnn[n] [H|V])
LNB Power: (On | Off)
LNB Frequency: (n/n)
DISEqC SW:
Positioner Setting: (None | DiSEqC 1.2 | USALL)

I have the post and mount temporarily installed, plumbed, pointed true south, and secure. I'm not chasing concrete yet. Is there a way to simply point the dish alone (on the ground, leaning against a stable bin)?

For starts, I'd like to find any signal to prove the quipment functions. I'll certainly want to see it much further. Should I cable in the C-band or Ku-band LNB? I will bring the PVR and TV near the dish.

Picture will follow, I'm certain you want to see the feedhorn and LNBs

Thank you for your time
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Argh! How can I change the title? I worked so hard and messed up the easy part.
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Good.

First you get a compass and find that spot on your property that has the longest view of the arc (the Clarke Belt) east to west. Basically you stand at the candidate position, look south, then in the sky, halfway between straight up and the horizon at due south will be about where the center of the arc is for your position. Then look to the east and west for the most sky. If it's a choice between getting most of the sky west or east, probably pick east.There isn't too much west of NW USA right now. The major satellites are east.

Really, leaning the dish against a wall won't work too well. People have rigged up temporary mounts, but the pole has to be plumb and pretty strong, Probably you could make a temporary brace with some 2 x 4s and sandbags.

Once you have your dish in place with your pole holding plumb, and we see the photos, we'll help you out.
gabshere
:welcome to satelliteguys :)

probably the most active place for fta & c banders ;)

I know you'll enjoy this hobby ... i probably tinker with my dish more than i watch tv ( well except during College football season) ;)
turbosat
The Visionsat was reportedly a good fta receiver, but I don't think it has the ability to control the feedhorn servo. Since I have multiple systems running here I find it easier to use the older, analog satellite receivers to control the polarity motor, and on my stand-alone ku-systems - I let the fta receivers handle that by using 'lnbfs' instead of the older feedhorns. You can find c-band lnbfs, which control polarity with receiver voltage, and also c-ku combination lnbfs.
Generally you can line up the polarity motor (little blue box with an arrow, in most cases) with the north/south axis and be very close. But without polarity control you'll either be horiz or vertical, or somewhere in between! And it is possible to 'prop' the dish up on the ground but you'll have a hard time finding any signal that way, since most of them are now digital signals and very unforgiving when it comes to locking them. If your feedhorn is one with a moveable flange, you can loosen the bolt on the feedhorn body, and twist in the flange to change polarity. Be sure not to lose your focal distance marking if you do that-takes a little finesse but can be done.
KE4EST
Argh! How can I change the title? I worked so hard and messed up the easy part.

Title fixed...;)
FaT Air
maps.google.com zoom into your location, right click on your dish position, click "What's Here" look at the location text area on the page.
The attached picture may shed some light on the angles of the dish and polar mount when aimed at Zenith. (the highest point in its travel about the polar axis of the mount)
To familiarize oneself with the theory of aiming there is some good reading here:
Footprints by Dish Size - Adjusting the Polar Mount for Prime Focus Antenna - C/Ku-Band Satellite Systems - Tuning, Tracking, Azimuth, Elevation, Declination Angles, F/D Ratio, Focal Distance, Inclinometer, LNB/Feedhorn Assembly, Actuator Assembly
This has become my science experiment
Well, yes, but don't get too worried. I've simplified much of the necessities into this: http://www.satelliteguys.us/attachment.php?attachmentid=54264&d=1280779730 (Thanks hwn for making it a single file)
As to the feedhorn/lnb assembly. There's not many FTA receivers that will operate it. If you look down the feeds throat, with the servo on the back of the feed at about the 1:30 position, the little 'hook'(actually called the probe) whould be orientated either vertical or horizontal. Now since the receiver can't operate it, mark the outside of the feed as to indicate it's position. The feed throat can be rotated in the scalar (the part with the grooved surface towards the dish) to place the probe vertical or horizontal.
Then there's the little problem of the LNB's wanting a constant 18 to 24Vdc to operate correctly. FTA receivers are set up to run an LNBF (Unitized LNB and feed assembly). The receiver supplies 18V to tell the LNBF to select the horizontal probe, and 13Vdc to select the vertical probe. (There are two probes in an LNBF, while a Feedorn with bolt on LNB(s) have only one probe. The single probe is mechanically rotated by the servo (little blue box at the rear of the feed horn) This necessitates selecting, programming, Horizontal polarity on the FTA receiver even if the feeedhorn is rotated to place the probe vertical (to get a vertical transponder) There are 'add on' accessories that will take the 13-18Vdc from the receiver and operate the servo correctly, (In this case the servo is orientated to about the 10:30-11:00 position when standing in front of the dish)
In my view, it's much easier and convenient to switch out the old style feed horn/LNB assembly with a new LNBF. I finally did this a few years ago, and never looked back. Single band (C band) and dual band (C and Ku) models are available.
Welcome to the forum.
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Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
dishstaller
Another Tulsa King spin off.🙄
But.....if you like Tulsa King....looks like you would probably like this as well. I don't mind spin-offs as long as they don't involve a sassy niece who moves from the big city :rolleyes:
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I thought I would come here and find lots of complaints about the update to the dish anywhere mobile app, but am not seeing any. It used to look just like the desktop webpage. Now you can no longer filter by sports channels or movie channels. Plus that they made it look like a big button telephone and you see fewer channels in the screen which requires more scrolling. Yes I realize you can look at sports then select which sport you want to look at, I just liked being able to see all sporting events in the guide with all other channels being filtered out. Am I alone in the wilderness on this?
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Juan
Not alot of dish customers any more
Foxbat
I'm not a big fan of the new layout, especially on my Apple TV. It used to look like the old Guide layout on the Hopper 3, but they changed parts of that, too.
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dishstaller
I really dislike change for the sake of change
TheRatPatrol
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Anyone else watch this show? Any guesses as to what was in the box Gibbs gave to Abby that was on her desk? It look liked it was glowing.

I also heard that someone was leaving the show at the end of this season. Any guesses as to who thats going to be?
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Jimbo

Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
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Howard ...
You don't like Tony, or Tony as the Director (he's only been there for 30 seconds now) or you don't like NCIS ?
Tony as the director.🙄
Jimbo
Tony as the director.🙄
Would you rather have LaRoche ???
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I liked this episode and a toned down Tony...
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Would you rather have LaRoche ???
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
Jimbo
No. Bring in someone new.🤔 Tony is not serious enough for me. Parker is too close to the team and Tim is too young to take over IMO.
I don't think Tim and Tony are that far apart in Age ...

Remember what Tony said to Tim when they first got back together ...
Tony said: I am the New Tony, Tim .... (something to that effect)

Tony has changed, he's been running his Security Business ... I'm sure he has grown up.

Give it time ... your judging the New Tony from the old Tony.

It sounds like Tim won't be around the Team much longer either.
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Might be worth a watch when it comes out. Looks like typical big corp against the little guy movie BUT....there is a reason this plot type is so oft repeated, it draws audiences.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-f9OGsKHd4
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dishstaller
BTW, I noticed right after I posted this that someone else had already mentioned it....sorry for the duplicate thread. Still looking forward to seeing the movie.
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If you're going try to read / listen to the book (can't recommend the audio book enough) before this comes out, I'd avoid trailers.

Trailer below, spoiling it to make sure you read the above bold message first. The book / audio book are fantastic. Go into this blind if you can IMO!




Kind of disappointed at how much they show. A lot still to see, but man, some good reveals in the book that are just served up here.
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I've seen it twice. Can't recommend the audio book enough, Ray Porter's performance is amazing and there's so much more in the book than the movie.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
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Forgot to comment. I did watch when it first came out on MGM. I enjoyed it a lot. I think reading the book made it easier to watch. Several friends commented it was a little hard to follow.
TRG
TRG
"astrophage". I read the book but didn't see the film yet.
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"Project Hail Mary" should be on Prime Video starting Friday, July 3.
That's what I will be watching this weekend.🤗
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Kindle book on sale for $2.99 today at Amazon.
dishstaller
.........there's so much more in the book than the movie.
I agree. That can go for pretty much any book vs movie. Back when I was single I would read any Stephen King or John Grisham book I could get my hands on. When you read a book you make up the scenes and characters in your mind.....the movie version always disappoints.
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Schedule drops tomorrow. Mandatory mini camps in June. Hall of Fame game August 6th.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
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Selfish Drake Maye holds back on giving the ball to Bills unlike Jags game, gets the win on the road.
A big win for the Patriots, and they are now 3-2.

Browns lose a close one with... The Jets. That is a classic Browns loss (granted, any loss is a classic one it seems). 49'ers, Vikings, and Chiefs remain undefeated. The AFC north have a three way tie at 3-2 for second place. :eek:
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
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Hopefully nowhere near a microphone.
After having experienced Gus Ferguson trying to call soccer games, I'm uncertain why NFL football analysts get hate. Even the "worst" of them are pretty good.
meStevo
Jalen Hurts out indefinitely as they treat and monitor a superficial blood clot in his leg.


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I had quit watching this show years ago because I ended up more annoyed than entertained. Well......I'm STILL more annoyed than entertained. I DO find it interesting to see how things work behind the scenes at many businesses. What annoys me is how utterly out of touch CEOs are with the companies they run. At the end of almost every episode the head of the company is amazed at how hard the employees have to work and many times have to work around impossible guidelines set forth from headquarters.

I found this one interesting because the new CEO had big plans for this company, Muscle Maker Grill, and it looked like the stores were all pretty busy. Recent history hasn't been good to this company however. I bet the covid lockdowns were the real killer.


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