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dandif518

Last reply Sep 2, 2012 · posted in DISH Network Support Forum

Setting up my VIP722 with dishproplus 1000.4

Hello all! Thank you for checking out this post! I am new here and not a satellite technician and need help with this install I need to do.

I currently have a dish 500 dish with a sd dvr 622. I got a dish from my parents old house(it was still mounted and they 5 minutes from me)and it says dish network plus on it. It has a big lnb and a smaller lnb(please see pic)and I know its a 1000.4 eastern arc.

The installer put just one line into my house going to a triplexer and then into the 622 dvr. My question is, can I still use just the one coax line coming into the house with a hd dvr I bought(VIP722)and just go right to the triplexer the way it is now? It sucks not having hd but I want to make sure I have the right dish and lnb's to get my hd channels I'll be signing up for once I get it installed.

My next question is a biggie. How many lines do I attach to the lnb and which one do I attach to? The big lnb has 2 out ports. 1F and 2D. This kinda confuses me. Do you just hook the line up to just one of those seeing as I only have 1 tv in the house or do you have to hook up to both of them and go to a switch or something? It just seems like hooking up to 1 output won't get me all my sd and hd channels. Maybe I'm wrong. And that's not even taking that little lnb with the 2 outs on it.

Just one more thing, I promise! I know my elavation, azimuth and skew. It has the scales right on the dish. If I set the dish to those positions on the scales, will I be in the neighborhood when I turn on the new box. I understand I'll need to do fine tuning but wondering if it will put me in the ballpark.

Any help would be huge!!!! Thank you so much for reading. Dan

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garys

Jul 27, 2012

Yes, the 625 can see those, but fine tuning the receiver for HD can't be. If all the signal strengths would be the same, it would be great. But a lot of people get peeved when the channel they want to watch falls out faster than others. The dish can be pointed, but would still need to be fine tuned when the HD receiver is available. It is better to point using the right equipment.

garys

Jul 27, 2012

That may be the best idea.

3HaloODST

Jul 29, 2012

garys said:
Yes, the 625 can see those, but fine tuning the receiver for HD can't be. If all the signal strengths would be the same, it would be great. But a lot of people get peeved when the channel they want to watch falls out faster than others. The dish can be pointed, but would still need to be fine tuned when the HD receiver is available. It is better to point using the right equipment.

I'm not so sure that that is true. The 625 can still tune into 129 TPs 19,20,29,30 and get the appropriate signal strengths just like the HD receivers (should aim for low 50s-low 60s in most areas.)

It just can't decode the MPEG4 feeds. MPEG4 is not the same as the satellite signal with is actually turbo 8PSK (625 is completely capable of dealing with 8PSK.)

dandif518

Sep 1, 2012

Hi again guys! Just wanted to update and ask a question(of course). Got the 722 in the mail and sent it back. Blown hard drive. Anyways, got a 622 hd dvr coming in the mail now and picked up a black dish that says dish hd on it. Is this a 1000.2? I aimed it for the hell of it with my current 625 sd hooked up and I have sig strength. Problem is, no channels. I know I'm on the wrong sat. My question though is, can I use this new 1000.2 dish my my sd box? In the setup, it says its on transponder 14 and sat 119 but it does say "wrong sattelite under the sig strength bar. I'l just keep aiming until I hit the right one I guess. Am I on the right transponder and is 119 right? These were right with my dish 500. If all this isn't possible, piss on it, I'll wait until my new box comes in. Just wanted to get a few channels.

Thanks guys! Dan

Jim5506

Sep 1, 2012

Cover the outside 2 lnb's and make sure the center one hits 119. You are probably picking up 119 with one of the outside lnb's.

dandif518

Sep 2, 2012

Jim5506 said:
Cover the outside 2 lnb's and make sure the center one hits 119. You are probably picking up 119 with one of the outside lnb's.

Thanks Jim! I'll give that a try!

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Scott Greczkowski

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Last reply 47 minutes ago · posted in The Chit Chat Club

Song Name Game Part 3!

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The last song was added by Bobby who posted...

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I'm Easy - Keith Carridine

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reubenray

Last reply Today at 10:36 AM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Laptop Shutting Off When On Battery?

Lately my eight year old Dell laptop has been shutting off even when I have a full battery. I have had to keep it plugged up all the time to keep this from happening. Any idea what is causing this? I replaced the battery about three years ago.

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arlo

Today at 10:09 AM

A recalibration might be needed. Even if it shows full, the individual cells may have become unbalaced. And the BMS chip in the battery reports false information to the pc.
Try this. Start it up in the bios/uefi and leave it there until the battery dies and it shuts off.
It might just keep running longer than in Windows. Or run for a short while and shut off.
If it's the first case. Probably just needs a balancing. If the latter, the pack might just be dead.
Not throwing stones but perhaps just a cheaply constructed battery with substandard cells. Could be.

Patience. Keep restarting it in bios/uefi until it won't fire up anymore.
Then plug the charger in and let it complete a full charge. And see what happens. If it's better.
Do the same thing one more time. Run it until it dies dead-dead. Then just let it charge, pc shut off.
When charged, it might be better. It might not be.

There are bench jigs that read the actual BMS and override it to let a tech manually monitor and charge the separate packs. They can also reset any "time bombs" in it that cause an otherwise good pack to show bad.
Maybe Santa will be good to me some year.

You might just need a new battery. Maybe the PC power management chip is going. A Dell common thing.
Leaving a laptop plugged in with a full battery is known to reduce the life. Asus for one recommends that you don't leave the charger plugged in all of the time even when shut down. And setting Windows to charge the battery to 85% instead of 100% increases life.
That's all I got.

dishstaller

Today at 10:36 AM

arlo said:
That's all I got.

That was quite enough....I definitely learned something from your post. Thanks

TRG

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Last reply Today at 10:27 AM · posted in Computers and Gadgets

Starlink Router question

I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

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b4pjoe

Saturday at 2:12 PM

TRG said:
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

If you can't get into the router to reserve an IP address just don't use DHCP on the device that needs connected and assign it to a specific IP address in the network settings.

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HipKat

Saturday at 11:07 PM

TRG said:
I set up a music server for my brother a few years ago. It's basically a small headless computer but it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

They are not. Your best bet is to set up a third-party router, attached to the Starlink for your server, that you can get into, like a Linksys, etc

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Foxbat

Sunday at 12:44 AM

TRG said:
…it needs to have a DHCP IP address reserved for it in the router settings. This was easy to do in his DSL router. He's switching to Starlink now and I was wondering if these setting are easily accessible in the Starlink router. I'm pretty sure he will be getting the latest V5 router.

The Starlink V5 Install Kit I just got comes with the Mini Router. It is pretty limited in what it can do. For example, it can provide only one IP subnet at a time, no Guest Network, but it does support the pass-thru to a third-party Router. You can also split the Wi-Fi into separate 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz SSIDs to help some IoT devices that don't support 5 GHz bands to work.

The larger Starlink Router that still comes with the V4 Kit does support a Guest Network with separate IPv4 Subnet, but it's $120 from Starlink. And it still won't do DHCP Reservations.

harshness

Sunday at 11:46 AM

If you can restrict the DHCP address space to assign addresses to one end of the subnet (i.e. x.x.x.50+), you can manually assign the IP address on pretty much any operating system. This is a default behavior on several popular routers. As the Router Mini only supports 235 devices, I expect that's already done.

Another option is to use a router that supports PoE to power the antenna. This article discusses that option (under PoE Power heading):

Starlink V5 Is Here: What RVers Need to Know

Overview of the new Starlink V5 model along with comparison to the previous V4 model along with a recommended setup for mobile internet users.

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Foxbat

Today at 10:27 AM

Now that I've had the v5 kit with the Mini Router, it's not as bad as I first thought. Yes, no DHCP reservations, but you can set up multiple SSIDs that have separate IPv4 subnets, and like the big brother, you can select from 192.168.x.0/24 or 10.x.0.0/16 (where "x" is 1-4).

You can also split a subnet and have different SSIDs for the 5 GHz and 2.4 GHz channels to handle some IoT devices. I haven't discovered what subnet the 2nd NIC on the router assigns, I'm guessing it's the first subnet.

dishstaller

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Last reply Today at 10:27 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

I think we could all use a laugh - Rodney Dangerfield on Carson

Good...simple humor. Enjoy

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E92AtfTLge4

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Jimbo

Today at 12:37 AM

Not Rodney, but a laugh ...

View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WHEcmortfK0?feature=share

dishstaller

Today at 10:27 AM

Sorry for posting the wrong link. Just corrected it.

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Last reply Today at 10:17 AM · posted in The Chit Chat Club

At least 64 dead in Spanish passenger train collision

Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

At Least 64 Dead After Two High-Speed Trains Collide In Spain | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

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Jimbo

Yesterday at 11:24 AM

dishstaller said:
Terrible tragedy. You would think that they would have safe guards in place that would prevent something like this from happening. I guess if you are going to ride in a passenger train it might be best to get a car near the rear.

At Least 64 Dead After Two High-Speed Trains Collide In Spain | ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

They will have to look at the switching sections to determine WHY 2 trains were on the same track ... at the same time.

dishstaller

Today at 10:17 AM

Thought this article might be of interest to some of you who might travel via train.

The safest seat to sit on in a train

Safety experts have shared top tips on train safety after a fatal railway crash in Spain killed 69 people, including where the safest place is in an emergency.

www.dailymail.com