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1) Who's ready for some football??!! Is it wrong that Im watching NFL Preseason Live on NFL Network??

2) Do you guys have any surprise teams this year in the NFL?

3) The Reds are slumping a little bit. Do you think the Reds hold off and win the NL Central?

4) What do you guys think of the Orioles, the Pirates and the Nationals? Do you think they make the playoffs?

5) What do you think of the MLB new playoff format? Heres the link: MLB announces 2012 Postseason schedule | MLB.com: News

6) Have you watched the Olympics and if you have, what do you think of it?

7) What are your thoughts on the Hope Solo, Brandi Chastian twitter war? I really cant comment on it because I dont know enough about soccer to take a side.

8) Remember how people were depressed that Micheal Phelps lost? He surely rebounded, didnt he?

9) If you guys read the mlb thread, you can skip this question/comment. Despite winning today, Im very upset about the Mets. The Mets finally won at home today. I heard that it was there first home victory in 23 home games. Could that be right? Well, anyway, they have struggled. If they continue to struggle, they could end up in last place. If you check the standings, the Mets, Marlins and Phillies, are 3 games difference between each other.

10) Do you think the Yankees make it and win the World Series? They certainly have the power to do it.

11) Did you hear the UFL is back??!!! Ok, calm down, thats right the UFL is back!! They are airing there games on CBS Sports Network.

12) Jan. 2, 2013, NBC starts there own radio network, any thoughts?

13) For you guys that dont live here in the East Coast, especially NY, Conn., NJ, all we are hearing is about Tebow and Sanchez and the season hasnt even started yet. At least, you guys are spared somewhat.
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Ramy
1) Who's ready for some football??!! Is it wrong that Im watching NFL Preseason Live on NFL Network??
Not yet. Yes it is. ;)
2) Do you guys have any surprise teams this year in the NFL?
Bengals win it all
3) The Reds are slumping a little bit. Do you think the Reds hold off and win the NL Central?
Yes, as long as they get back Votto and he has no ill effects from the knee surgery.
4) What do you guys think of the Orioles, the Pirates and the Nationals? Do you think they make the playoffs?
At least 2 of them will.
5) What do you think of the MLB new playoff format? Heres the link: MLB announces 2012 Postseason schedule | MLB.com: News
It's ok I guess.
6) Have you watched the Olympics and if you have, what do you think of it?
Yes, I like the Summer more than the Winter myself.
7) What are your thoughts on the Hope Solo, Brandi Chastian twitter war? I really cant comment on it because I dont know enough about soccer to take a side.
I don't really care.
8) Remember how people were depressed that Micheal Phelps lost? He surely rebounded, didnt he?
In a big way

10) Do you think the Yankees make it and win the World Series? They certainly have the power to do it.
No, they choke. LOL
11) Did you hear the UFL is back??!!! Ok, calm down, thats right the UFL is back!! They are airing there games on CBS Sports Network.
Who is back?
12) Jan. 2, 2013, NBC starts there own radio network, any thoughts?
Radio? What is that?
salsadancer7
1) Who's ready for some football??!! Is it wrong that Im watching NFL Preseason Live on NFL Network??
Count me in. I cannot believe I was watching preseason last night. I guess the bad taste of last season for the Raiders and the totally horrid seasons by the Marlins has me desperate! LOL!

2) Do you guys have any surprise teams this year in the NFL?
I will keep saying it. It will be my Raiders. Flying WAY below the radar with NOTHING expected from the except a 6-10 season.

3) The Reds are slumping a little bit. Do you think the Reds hold off and win the NL Central?
NO ONE else seems to have enough to take it away from them. I would LOVE for the Pirates to battle them to the bitter end.

4) What do you guys think of the Orioles, the Pirates and the Nationals? Do you think they make the playoffs?
Nope, Nope and yes. I have to say, for as well as the Nats are playing...they got very lucky in the fact that the Phillies had ALL of their big guns hurt...Marlins had slumps and injuries to just about everyone...the Braves got off to a crappy start and the Mets never really had enough horses to compete. Before I consider them a "mainstay" as a playoff contender, let's see what happens next year.

5) What do you think of the MLB new playoff format? Heres the link: MLB announces 2012 Postseason schedule | MLB.com: News
ANYTHING to promote a league that lack BIG time in ratings, I am for.

6) Have you watched the Olympics and if you have, what do you think of it?
I can honestly say, this is the Olympics I have watched the least. I do not know why.

9) If you guys read the mlb thread, you can skip this question/comment. Despite winning today, Im very upset about the Mets. The Mets finally won at home today. I heard that it was there first home victory in 23 home games. Could that be right? Well, anyway, they have struggled. If they continue to struggle, they could end up in last place. If you check the standings, the Mets, Marlins and Phillies, are 3 games difference between each other.
The Mets are a team with slingshots when most of the division has guns.

11) Did you hear the UFL is back??!!! Ok, calm down, thats right the UFL is back!! They are airing there games on CBS Sports Network.
:popcorn

12) Jan. 2, 2013, NBC starts there own radio network, any thoughts?
See above

13) For you guys that dont live here in the East Coast, especially NY, Conn., NJ, all we are hearing is about Tebow and Sanchez and the season hasnt even started yet. At least, you guys are spared somewhat.

On the Tebow thing. Look, the Jets were already a lighting rod going into the season. They just added gasoline with Tebow. I just love the fact that the Jets brass seems to be "surprised" with all the media attention. As if...
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Rey
On the Tebow thing. Look, the Jets were already a lighting rod going into the season. They just added gasoline with Tebow. I just love the fact that the Jets brass seems to be "surprised" with all the media attention. As if...


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1 - Just never got into pre-season football. Bunch of guys who will NOT be on the team in September fooling around in games that mean nothing.

2 - If I told you, it would not be a surprise.

3 - Yes. The Reds and the Pirates (largly on the haplessness of the Astros and Cubs) have by far the easiest schedules remaining, and the Reds are a better team than the Pirates).

4 - Nationals will. Orioles and Pirates will not.

5 - Not much.

6 - No. And not much. A bunch of sports no one understands, combined with non-sport judged competitions, an NBA all-star game, all wrapped up in pseudo-religious hokum. Who cares?

7 - Thankfully, Americans reserve soccer for what it is, a game for girl children.

10 - Yankees will need to turn it up a notch.

11 - Don't care.

12 - Eric Kucilias, who I like, is doing their night show (which is a graveyard deal, as most stations would have games most nights). I would want to see how many affiliates they get and who the talent is. In smaller markets, it may be a hit or miss deal between all of these networks.

13 - Jets did it to themselves.
raoul5788
I don't start paying much attention to football until the baseball season is over. I've always thought they should start the season after baseball ends. That way there would be something to watch in February.
dfergie
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Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
Added these to this post...
USA National Gas Temperature Map
State By State Gasoline Taxes
Gas Buddy

Ethanol Free Stations

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Bobby
Regular$6.099​
Premium$6.599​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
Bobby
Regular$5.999​
Premium$6.399​
Diesel$7.999​
at Costco, Rohnert Park.​
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I wonder if California is getting into the Winter formula.
dishstaller
Regular$5.999​
Premium$6.399​
Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.

Last night it was about $4.17 gas, $6,19 diesel.
harshness
Odd that out there, Prem is only 40 cents higher. Here it's a full dollar more.
On the West Coast, a 40-cent differential is common. It used to be 30 cents before the prices rose above $3.

A "full dollar more" sounds like it may be boat gas (non-alcoholic), which is a whole different discussion.
K
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Season 2 order already in hand:

'Star Trek: Starfleet Academy' Renewed for Season 2, Tatiana Maslany to Guest Star in Season 1

I've not been optimistic about this show based on what I've read so far. Seems to be aimed at a younger audience. Interesting though that Tatiana Maslany will have some sort of role.
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K
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
K
I'm sure I will watch at least the first episode but I am not optimistic.
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
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MikeD-C05
Here i am over a year later and just finished season 1. Not great but not as bad as I was expecting. Did not care for the barefoot captain stuff but overall ok. Actually looking forward to see what they did for season 2.
Yeah, the foot stuff was just nasty. I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less. Funny, I love being shoe less at home and never wear shoes indoors in my home for long, but seeing her laying on all her furniture with her bare feet hanging out just kind of grossed me out.
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harshness
I kept thinking of how dirty her feet would get traipsing around shoe-less.
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
MikeD-C05
Where would this "dirt" come from? Dead skin and dandruff?
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure. So walking around the station like she did she would get stuff on her feet. I am sure the robot vacuum is still going to miss stuff, with all those different alien species running around there.
harshness
There would still be dirt ,dust in the future I am sure.
Where is it going to come from -- specifically?

Why do you think cleaning technology won't improve in the next few hundred years? HEPA filtration was invented as part of the Manhattan Project.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
This started a couple months ago. I have 2 H3s on one network, both with 2 EHD identical 3 TB seperately powered so all recordings are accessible by all 4k & J4s (8 of them).

On one H3 (not the main one that controls the MOCA network), after it reboots, it doesn't recognize it has two EHDs plugged into it. Rebooting the EHD by their power source doesn't fix it. Resetting the network doesn't. Software h3 reset doesn't fix it. Rebooting MOCA h3 doesn't fix it but so far, after 3+ cold boots (unplug pwr to H3 with unrecognized EHDs), it finally it figures out they are plugged into it. BUT.... Then when you open a program it only partially shows series and episodes, but instead of showing recordings, it only shows upcoming airings. HELP!!!!
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navychop
It'll only see two EHDs at a time.
Almighty1
JohnGalt1234 - So you basically have 2 Hopper 3's. The CasinoH3 is the one that is Hopper 3 only while Master Bedroom is a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus setup.
Master Bedroom uses Android TV (ATV) software so the DISH part is actually a app and will behave differently as you can probably tell the Guide's are different on the Master Bedroom which will resemble the same guide used on other ATV devices such as the Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4. If I am correct, the CasinoH3 is the one with the problem since you did say the one dated 09/05/2026 is the naughty one while 08/15/2026 named Master Bedroom is the nice one. Usually I would expect the CasinoH3 to be the one without the problem because it's Hopper 3 only and Master Bedroom would be the one with problems because it has the Hopper Plus involved. That is why they behave differently because CasinoH3 is running the native Hopper 3 software while Master Bedroom is running the Android TV software and also it runs a app called DISH known as package com.dish.atv.launcher, the version for mines is P15403 2026100917 so it's probably the same version as the Hopper Plus software version with the date of October 9, 2026, not sure what the 17 means except maybe revision 17?

This explains it better than I can. Sorry, had to take all the ads out.

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JohnGalt1234 - So you basically have 2 Hopper 3's. The CasinoH3 is the one that is Hopper 3 only while Master Bedroom is a Hopper 3 with Hopper Plus setup.
Master Bedroom uses Android TV (ATV) software so the DISH part is actually a app and will behave differently as you can probably tell the Guide's are different on the Master Bedroom which will resemble the same guide used on other ATV devices such as the Joey 4 and Wireless Joey 4. If I am correct, the CasinoH3 is the one with the problem since you did say the one dated 09/05/2026 is the naughty one while 08/15/2026 named Master Bedroom is the nice one. Usually I would expect the CasinoH3 to be the one without the problem because it's Hopper 3 only and Master Bedroom would be the one with problems because it has the Hopper Plus involved. That is why they behave differently because CasinoH3 is running the native Hopper 3 software while Master Bedroom is running the Android TV software and also it runs a app called DISH known as package com.dish.atv.launcher, the version for mines is P15403 2026100917 so it's probably the same version as the Hopper Plus software version with the date of October 9, 2026, not sure what the 17 means except maybe revision 17?

This explains it better than I can. Sorry, had to take all the ads out.

View attachment 194857
As I understand it, the android is just the display signal from the hopper+. I can disconnect the H+ and plug the hdmi directly into the master hopper3.
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Almighty1
As I understand it, the android is just the display signal from the hopper+. I can disconnect the H+ and plug the hdmi directly into the master hopper3.
It is not just a display signal as explained above. When you have the Hopper+ connected, it uses Android TV for pretty much everything except for the satellite signal which is why it uses the DISH app for the standard Hopper 3 functions. But that should not matter because in your case, CasinoH3 is the Hopper 3 with the EHD which is what you call the naughty one based on the dates you mentioned and Master Bedroom which has the Hopper Plus connected to the Hopper 3 that does not have the problem. So one way to test the theory is disconnect the Hopper Plus from that Hopper 3 and then use the EHD's connected to CasinoH3 currently to see if the same issue exists. That way you will know if the problem is there without a Hopper Plus connected or if CasinoH3 is just a bad hopper to begin with.

Normally when you disconnect the Hopper Plus, it will be 30 minutes or more before you can use the Hopper 3 again.

What you want to do is:
hold the POWER button in, not the red reset button, for about 45 seconds or so while disconnecting the power to the Plus and moving the HDMI cable and it will reboot to the normal Hopper only immediately.
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bookworm370
It'll only see two EHDs at a time.
Yes, I have only two online at a time.
One comes online, the other one consistently will not come online
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Yes, I have only two online at a time.
One comes online; the other consistently won't. Also, when I connect the EHD, the USB Detected status light on the EHD itself changes from Red to Green. But the Hopper (713) does not start the EHD read process. The light changes to indicate that the EHD has detected a valid USB cable, but the Hopper does not recognize it.
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Peter Parker
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No idea what improvements might be involved.
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bookworm370
Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
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I got the 713 update yesterday.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
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Has anyone noticed an FF stutter with 713? I used to be able to hit FF a few times and skip smoothly. After 713 (maybe 712), when I skip forward, there is a definite stutter for as many times as I have pressed FF.

Can anyone check on this and report back? Recorded programs and then press skip forward a few times to see if it's smooth? Normally, it just jumps to the right place after the skips.
My wife mentioned that her remote is acting strange this morning. She hit FF and it went to 15x FF.
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I'm getting fabulous picture on Ch. 148 4k, but zero audio with H713. This is with a recorded show (Notre Dame game). Anyone else have this? Audio is fine on every other channel.
This has been an ongoing issue. A fix is coming, probably in the next software version.
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Last reply · posted in DISH Network Support Forum
I have Dish Hopper and Hopper Plus and also have Alexa Echo. I link the Alex skill to Dish and it asks me to enter the pairing code shown on the TV. I go into Dish Settings and there is no Alexa shown. Not sure what to do.
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HipKat
Guys,
Android is Google. Google is Android. Android OS and Google TV are the same thing.
The Hopper+ and Joey 4's run Android TV, which is Google's television version of Android.
That means under the hood, you have:
  • Linux kernel
  • Android framework
  • Google TV / Android TV interface
  • Google Play Store for TV apps
Alexa is the competition. Google is not going to host their competition.
The old Hopper Carbon UI is NOT Google so that's why Alexa was on there.
H
Understood. But here's the rub - Google Assistant setup is ALSO missing from the Hopper Plus setup. I'm a paraplegic.and need to use voice controls as much as possible but I can't press a button on the remote to activate Google Assistant. I prefer ALEXA (or ALEXA+) but I have one older google device and will go that route IF they make it available. BTW calling Dish Customer Service is no help- they just say they have no info on if/when there will be an update.
navychop
Ungood.
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What is the purpose of connecting Alexa and the H3?
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navychop
Tell Alexa verbally what to do.
meStevo
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A continuation of a thread from the pub, just general discussion of AI.

Brief 60 minute clip about next gem autonomous fighters - not remote controlled, but rather collaborating with controllers and aircraft in the theater.


View: https://youtu.be/DRm0mbp_n1k


We've literally got a movie already about this ;)


View: https://youtu.be/a2PW7a9ViDc
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meStevo
Agreed, it mostly regurgitates known solutions. That's the point. Nobody needs an innovative fix for a driver error or a creative way to format a report. Let it handle the solved problems so people can spend their time on the ones that aren't.
harshness
Agreed, it mostly regurgitates known solutions. That's the point.
That's the point at which innovation ends, and there's no longer any point to software engineering other than swatting bugs that result from misapplication.
meStevo
That's the point at which innovation ends, and there's no longer any point to software engineering other than swatting bugs that result from misapplication.

Addressed by what you didn't quote. This cycle is as old as computing: compilers, libraries, frameworks each automated the tedious part, and the human work moved up a level. Innovation didn't end; it shifted. And people still make new compilers, libraries or frameworks.

Nobody's forced to hand anything off. Anyone who wants to keep doing it by hand still can, and people who couldn't do it at all now can.
harshness
... and people who couldn't do it at all now can.
Misapplication isn't something that the casual coder can identify. They can only discover, the hard way, that it doesn't work at some point.
meStevo
Misapplication isn't something that the casual coder can identify. They can only discover, the hard way, that it doesn't work at some point.
You're not wrong, but that's part of learning. Whether from others or our own mistakes, we've all learned that lesson one way or another.
harshness
Whether from others or our own mistakes, we've all learned that lesson one way or another.
I'm not sure that the school of hard knocks is the quickest or surest education to find your way.

There are many examples in the headlines of people getting burned multiple times and not wavering in their pursuit of stupidity.
meStevo
I'm not sure that the school of hard knocks is the quickest or surest education to find your way.

Good thing not everyone will have to learn the hard way then. The same tools can explain why something broke.

There are many examples in the headlines of people getting burned multiple times and not wavering in their pursuit of stupidity.

This is true of literally anything, though.

Happy to agree to disagree, but I'm already enjoying the dividends personally and helping others at work and at home do the same.
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harshness
This is true of literally anything, though.
Do you think that means we ought to be supporting it as the long-term solution?
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Oops.
dishstaller
Been reading this thread but not commenting much, primarily because there is so much "news" out there on this topic and it is hard to tell what is real and what is theater.
My biggest problem with AI is that these agents are taught...not necessarily programmed but taught. Well, there's an old saying "garbage in/garbage out". I remember a Joe Rogan show a while back when he had Elon Musk on and they talked about AI and Elon said one of the AIs (can't remember which one, sorry) was asked which was worse, Thermonuclear War or mis-gendering Kaitlyn Jenner and it came back with the answer that mis-gendering was worse. Now forget the politics involved with all the gender stuff we have been subjected to the past few years.....to say that mis-gendering is worse than the killing of hundreds of millions, perhaps billions of human beings.....Kaitlyn Jenner included.....is simply insane not to mention incredibly dangerous.