I got it, mostly. You hit the nail, I think, Fatair, it was a combination of azimuth and elevation, plus I didn't really have the elevation on the dish correct, All the charts I could find said 25degrees, but then I looked at the one in the DG380 manual and it said 27degrees, dishpointer said 30....you get the idea. Just like with the c-band polar mounts, it ends up being a trade off of compromising angles (you settle with WHAT WORKS, not what the supid calculators say, lol). The azimuth was the biggest thing, once I tweaked that some, 123 popped right in, and I was tickled! I still have so dang many trees on site that it makes it tough to know if you're tracking well, or if you're hitting treetops or branches, and offset dishes make that hard to tell.