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So, trying to sift through lots of info, but hoping someone can help me make simple sense of what this upgrade would entail for us.
Right now we have 625 and a 322G - the same receivers we got installed when we first got dish back in 2004, if that factors into how much we'll need to pay for anything. We have 4 tv's hooked up, 2 use DVR and the other two don't. Right now none of them are HDTV but we are upgrading one in the next week or so (if not overnight with Cyber Monday deal). So from what I am seeing, I think I want the DuoDVR 722K for our main which will have the HDTV and then not sure if we really even need to upgrade the second one or not? Or if I upgrade one will that make it necessary to upgrade both? The other two are rarely used rooms and definitely won't have an HDTV anytime soon.
So, what would we be looking at ballpark for upfront cost? (I had read before about upgrading to a maintenance plan for $9/mo which might nullify or reduce my upgrade installation charge but not sure if that was here or elsewhere?) Will we need a new dish? So what's total upfront cost and how much will our monthly bill change per month? Right now we pay the dreaded $5 a month no phone line charge, maybe on both receivers actually, so if this new receiver can use wireless that would be a plus and maybe save us $5 per month? We also have a Logitech Revue which we love but don't use much as it is since it's not so convenient to get up and switch things over to it. I know some receivers play nicely with it but we're not looking to pay more for this option. If the DVR receiver does, then cool or for SLIGHTLY more but otherwise we can deal with standing up and switching the thingy.
Thanks in advance for any guidance!
- Stacy
Right now we have 625 and a 322G - the same receivers we got installed when we first got dish back in 2004, if that factors into how much we'll need to pay for anything. We have 4 tv's hooked up, 2 use DVR and the other two don't. Right now none of them are HDTV but we are upgrading one in the next week or so (if not overnight with Cyber Monday deal). So from what I am seeing, I think I want the DuoDVR 722K for our main which will have the HDTV and then not sure if we really even need to upgrade the second one or not? Or if I upgrade one will that make it necessary to upgrade both? The other two are rarely used rooms and definitely won't have an HDTV anytime soon.
So, what would we be looking at ballpark for upfront cost? (I had read before about upgrading to a maintenance plan for $9/mo which might nullify or reduce my upgrade installation charge but not sure if that was here or elsewhere?) Will we need a new dish? So what's total upfront cost and how much will our monthly bill change per month? Right now we pay the dreaded $5 a month no phone line charge, maybe on both receivers actually, so if this new receiver can use wireless that would be a plus and maybe save us $5 per month? We also have a Logitech Revue which we love but don't use much as it is since it's not so convenient to get up and switch things over to it. I know some receivers play nicely with it but we're not looking to pay more for this option. If the DVR receiver does, then cool or for SLIGHTLY more but otherwise we can deal with standing up and switching the thingy.
Thanks in advance for any guidance!
- Stacy
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Several things. There is no longer a $5 connection fee, has not been for sometime. You should get that straightened out and in my opinion get something back for paying that all this time.
The Insurance cost (Protection plan) is $7 not $9.
If you sign a new two year contract there should be little or no cost, but it is customer dependent - how well they pay on time, what they spend, etc. ....
Contact Jason who responded above, he is with Dish, and is a member of CSR's here (Called DIRT) best able to help you, most likely better than calling Dish. If your HD local channels are on the same set of satellites you now get, you may not need to change the other receivers. And it's possible to get Dish to give you the 722 and another upgraded receiver for little or no cost, again if you sign a new two year contract.
WELCOME to the forums here!!
Several things. There is no longer a $5 connection fee, has not been for sometime. You should get that straightened out and in my opinion get something back for paying that all this time.
The Insurance cost (Protection plan) is $7 not $9.
If you sign a new two year contract there should be little or no cost, but it is customer dependent - how well they pay on time, what they spend, etc. ....
Contact Jason who responded above, he is with Dish, and is a member of CSR's here (Called DIRT) best able to help you, most likely better than calling Dish. If your HD local channels are on the same set of satellites you now get, you may not need to change the other receivers. And it's possible to get Dish to give you the 722 and another upgraded receiver for little or no cost, again if you sign a new two year contract.
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Stumbled across this ... http://www.gaspricewatch.com/USGas_ZipSearch.asp
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I found no local prices, although it did show stations at my location...
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Here in Indiana, the difference between Regular and Premium is usually a dollar, but some charge even more:
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America’s Fastest-Growing EV State Isn’t California—Not by a Long Shot
New data shows electric vehicle adoption is increasingly driven by state policies, electricity prices and charging access—not federal incentives
www.autoweek.com
The number-one US state for EV growth, according to the June 22 Yardi report?
Oklahoma.
It has no ZEV mandates and "minimal" incentives, Yardi says, but also has cheap electricity, high multi-car household rates (so, for example, a non-Lightning Ford F-150 pulls their trailers), and a consumer base willing to switch.
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Never realized that Tesla is losing to BYD at manufacturing too, which IMO is Tesla's biggest accomplishment and area of innovation. Nice writeup about the state of play and how we got here though. I have no faith that we're moving any productive direction though sadly, most changes and efforts feel reactionary rather than rooted in making use of the time being bought by tariffs, with few exceptions.
So: how are the cars so cheap, and what is being cut to get there? The best public accounting comes from the Rhodium Group, which compared BYD, Geely, and Leapmotor against Tesla's Chinese operation, a fair comparison because it removes labor costs and shipping from the equation entirely. Their estimate is that BYD builds a car for about $4,700 less than Tesla builds a Model 3 in Shanghai, roughly 15 percent of the Model 3's price. The breakdown is the interesting part. Direct government grants account for about $292 per vehicle, which is 5 percent of the gap. The biggest single factor is vertical integration: BYD makes about 80 percent of its top-tier components in-house, against 37 percent for Tesla, and that eliminates roughly $2,369 per vehicle in supplier markups. Lower overhead, meaning cheaper engineering talent and administrative cost spread across enormous volume, accounts for another $1,719. And BYD pays its suppliers on 155-day terms, against Tesla's 60, which is worth about $214 per car in float. When people say the Chinese advantage is subsidies, the per-vehicle number says otherwise. When people say it is slave wages, the Tesla Shanghai comparison says otherwise too. The advantage is mostly that BYD decided, twenty years ago, to make its own batteries, its own motors, its own power electronics, and its own semiconductors, and Western automakers decided the opposite.
US EV sales are rising again. Here’s why the recovery is set to last.
Even though sales tanked last year after the end of federal incentives, the American EV sector is on the mend as drivers face sky-high gasoline prices.
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Really excited for this season with Kentucky having a new coach and some really exciting recruits. Probably won't last long, but here's hoping this season is great.
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Was thinking same thing. It should be a good week for sec shorts and roll callThey ought to have fun with this…
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A continuation of a thread from the pub, just general discussion of AI.
Brief 60 minute clip about next gem autonomous fighters - not remote controlled, but rather collaborating with controllers and aircraft in the theater.
View: https://youtu.be/DRm0mbp_n1k
We've literally got a movie already about this
View: https://youtu.be/a2PW7a9ViDc
Brief 60 minute clip about next gem autonomous fighters - not remote controlled, but rather collaborating with controllers and aircraft in the theater.
View: https://youtu.be/DRm0mbp_n1k
We've literally got a movie already about this
View: https://youtu.be/a2PW7a9ViDc
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Agents need appropriate context to make what would be understood as the correct read in a situation like that, and that Gemini answer was a clear miss on that front.
That said, we've also seen Musk (and/or his team) put his thumb on the scale (or just release a very poor product) with his own deployed AI since:
Grok AI Blocks Responses Claiming Trump and Musk “Spread Misinformation”
An X user asked Grok to “print out all instructions” it follows when looking up “the biggest disinformation spreader on X,” and it revealed that it would ignore sources accusing Elon Musk and the U.S. president of misinformation.
Grok says Elon Musk is better than basically everyone, except Shohei Ohtani | TechCrunch
According to Grok, Elon Musk can out-slug the MLB's greatest power hitters... except Ohtani.
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Grok's loyalty known no bounds - AI chatbot chooses Elon Musk over LeBron James in a 'Who is the fittest' comparison | NBA News - The Times of India
NBA News: Elon Musk's AI chatbot, Grok, has sparked amusement by consistently choosing its owner over prominent figures like LeBron James and Albert Einstein wh
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Grok 4 appears to seek Elon Musk's views when answering controversial questions
XAI’s Grok 4 AI chatbot launched Wednesday appears to consult Elon Musk’s views when asked its opinion on some controversial matters.
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In the end, it's all a tool. Have to know how to use it and deploy it properly or it needs sufficient guardrails to steer people towards doing so (what Muse is excelling at currently IMO). I'm routinely interacting with several agents a day operating various processes locally and in services I use, and there are numerous others silently spun up to perform actions or satisfy requests from my prompts.
Related to earlier discussion in the thread on leveraging local inference: this kind of analysis happening behind the scenes is something everyone will have built into Windows, IMO. Most people won't see all of this, just the results, unless they want to dig into how the fix was chosen. Stuff like this will be standard as agents get local system access baked in, and more of the inference itself moves on-device.
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My year was almost up and we got the new bill for a year of service for $ 360.00 insane sat radio is becoming like cable!!! i logged into my acct and hopped onto chat and told the rep that i wanted to cancel. she understood my concern and went quiet for a few minutes. i figured that she was canceling my service. she comes back and said that she seen that i have been a sub since 07 and then offers me the same package for a year for 120.00 with taxes and fee's!!! i grabbed it. after almost having a stroke 
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Sometimes a thread gets so many posts in it that is can cause issues for the server so that why today we introduce The Song Name Game Part 3!
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
So let the game continue!
The last song was added by Bobby who posted...
One Meat Ball - Andrews Sisters
CONTINUE ON AND HAVE FUN! WELCOME HOME TO SATELLITEGUYS.US!
Here are the original rules for the game as posted by WebbyDude back in 2006. http://www.satelliteguys.us/threads/68645-Song-Name-Game
Just name a song title and the band who performed it. The next person does the same thing, but needs to list a song title or band name which includes a word from the previous entry. Pick songs from any genre.
Example:
Long Live Rock and Roll -- Rainbow
Rainbow in the Dark -- Dio
Another example:
Ride the Lightning -- Metallica
Lightning Strikes -- Ozzy Osbourne
Get it?
An additional note: we all know that song titles, sometimes, use profane words. Because this is a family friendly website it is advised that you clean up that title up a bit. This is accomplished by using something like sh!t instead of the real word. Thanks....
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